4G unlimited web? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why is it not illegal to advertise and have us pay for 4G service that most of us don't receive? My bill says 4G not internet. I believe that is misleading. Yes I understand the service might not be available in all areas, but we are being forced to actually pay more for the same service.
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hammer4203 said:
Why is it not illegal to advertise and have us pay for 4G service that most of us don't receive? My bill says 4G not internet. I believe that is misleading. Yes I understand the service might not be available in all areas, but we are being forced to actually pay more for the same service.
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You're not forced to do anything and nobody owes anything to you. You pay as much as everybody else does. Don't like what you get with T-mobile - feel free to leave and get raped by any other carrier
Verizon - don't know what they got but it's expensive last time I checked.
Sprint $10 additional premium internet fee
AT&T - don't even get me started with them.
You wouldn't have to worry about none of this if you bough a JitterBug

You don't actually pay more for the data plan. They just call it 4G internet. It's the same price as the regular unlimited data plan. It's marketing spiff.
You can always call in to loyalty and see if you can't get the preferred android web. $20. Or go to another provider. You chose T-mo. You chose the MT4G. If you didn't want the data plan, they why did you get a smartphone?????

Remember to get the deal you have to agree to the $10 price hike. All I'm saying is they label it 4G and tout about it all the time and most of the tmo network is still on 2G. I was told to go and harass the local tmo manager about the slow network. That they actually have input on network upgrades. You know how they were suppose to change the tier frequencies over? Guess what. The government is trying not to release those now. Which in turn keeps us from moving up just to 3G. The courts finally ordered mississippi to release them. I can't really blame tmo for that. I get good service and respect from my local tmo store to make me stay. I even protested them when they tried to fire him.
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hammer4203 said:
Remember to get the deal you have to agree to the $10 price hike.
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What hike? I'm on $25 unlimited web/400 text/mms plan and have been since I got G1, same thing with my wife who picked up G2. Price for new customers is higher, they have a choice and they can go anywhere else if they think they can find a better deal.
Existing customers grandfather plans, you just have to ask for it. Or, you can buy your phone outright and not have a data plan with it at all or just buy cheaper plan.
But in any case, everyone has a choice and if you think t-mobile does not fit your lifestyle or too expensive or has bad coverage - you have 14 days to change your mind and return the phone/cancel service.

Not exactly what I was trying to get across. They sell the 4G phone and make you upgrade to get the good price. The bill it as 4G unlimited web! That is considered fraud. We don't have anything but 2G here. It really has nothing to do with money at all! All I want is what they say I'm paying for. 4G! Actually I will settle on 3G.
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That's how they can subsidize that phone and sell it to your for $50 or $150, because you're paying for the data plan.

It's pointless....

LOL Its funny to see a thread like this, this is pretty much like us EVO users who complained about the $10 premium data add-on in the summer.
I'm just here to say that that grass isn't greener anywhere with this issue, just live with it or don't buy a "4G" capable phone.
Sprint & T-Mobile are the only two so far that are at least keeping 4G unlimited, vs. future AT&T & VZW's tietered (overage trap) solutions.

hammer4203 said:
Not exactly what I was trying to get across. They sell the 4G phone and make you upgrade to get the good price. The bill it as 4G unlimited web! That is considered fraud. We don't have anything but 2G here. It really has nothing to do with money at all! All I want is what they say I'm paying for. 4G! Actually I will settle on 3G.
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lol how ignorant are you? U get the phone for $150 when it retails for 500 or so... do you think tmobile is just giving their phones away at garage sale prices? you will pay for that phone over a length of time and increased data is one way they can do it... if they are only selling that phone with that certain data plan then be ready to pay their premium prices if u want that phone...
besides that, why would you buy a 4g phone and complain about not getting 4g when you do not even live somewhere that has 4g? come down to phoenix or head over to NY and you can have all the 4g you want, I assure you that you will get it and will get a little more what you pay for there...
anyway, my mom just picked this phone up yesterday, was 130 with her upgrade and buy 1 get one free assuming you had 2 lines to upgrade with... it was 15 for 200mb of data or 30 for unlimited (5gb) of data and they had a promotion for new data customers could get unlimited for 20 a month...
I really have no idea what you are ranting about... nothing they are doing is illegal... you have 4g capabilities, you just cannot use it where you live... tough luck buddy...

Just to shut this guy up here -
T-Mobile have 2 4G phones, the MT4G and the G2. Unlimited data plans for them are the same as you would pay on the Vibrant, the Cliq and the Behold II. What extra charge are you seeing?

borodin1 said:
You're not forced to do anything and nobody owes anything to you. You pay as much as everybody else does. Don't like what you get with T-mobile - feel free to leave and get raped by any other carrier
Verizon - don't know what they got but it's expensive last time I checked.
Sprint $10 additional premium internet fee
AT&T - don't even get me started with them.
You wouldn't have to worry about none of this if you bough a JitterBug
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This is just funny. I payed through the nose for Verizon service and i constantly shop around to see if other carriers are more reasonable.
I have unlimited everything on two phones and I'm about equal to what I was paying at Verizon with no data. My speeds are way faster for data than any of my friends on ATT, Verizon, Sprint.
They'll throttle your speeds if you go over 5gb I think.... Just stop tethering and playing Starcraft lol.

All the "4G Unlimited Web" means is what Watson (T-Mobile 's computer system) calls the internet plan for the MT4G and the G2.
It's a billing code that is associated to the phone, and is the same exact thing as the Android Unlimited Web plan ($30/$25 if grandfathered in; for non-MyTouchs) and the MyTouch Unlimted Web ($30; for pre-G2/MT4G MyTouch phones).
The regular unlimited web plan ($10/mo) which you are probably considering as being much cheaper is for non-smartphones. Android phones are extremely data-intensive. They are constantly updating email, weather, etc., as compared to regular phones which only connect when the user chooses to. As such, I think T-Mobile has every right to charge a little more for a phone that constantly uses bandwidth. Besides, we're lucky. T-Mobile is pretty much the cheapest carrier for unlimited web, and also the only one that doesn't FORCE you to have internet.
Like someone else said, if you've been with T-Mobile for a long time (more than 2yrs and the longer the better) you can generally get CS to change your internet to the "MyTouch Preferred" internet. It's the same thing as the 4G Unlimited Web, but is $20/mo instead.
As for the legality of the plan name, you still get the 4G speeds if you go into a 4G zone. So no, it's in no way illegal to post that. You aren't paying more and they aren't forcing you to pay for the internet (don't want it? Call CS and cancel it. Heck, you may even get someone nice who will give you a month or two free...)
On a side note, if you think it's too expensive, but just have to have internet on your phone, get the cheaper 200MB plan for the MyTouch. You still get the guaranteed 4G speed, but just get cut off at 200MB (but I really wouldn't suggest it)
Hopefully everything I told you help put everything in perspective.

I'm currently on the myTouch unlimited + 400 text for $24.99. Will I "NOT" get HSPA+(4g speeds) without the 4g data plan??? Only network I get is HSDPA which is 3g. Any input is appreciated.
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[Q] SIM only no contract carrier that supports the G2?

I have an G2 from T-Mobile, and i love the phone.. But i'm paying 175$ a month for two lines. That's outrageous! I'd rather pay cancellation fees and get rid of T-Mobile for good! But i love this phone, a lot. I'm very used to it.
Are there any SIM only carriers in the US that will suppose unlimited android data? T-Mobile boasts that they have unlimited data, which is honestly a con, big time. Since after 5GB is used, they limit your data to EDGE bandwidth, which is useless!
Are there ANY honestly UNLIMITED data carriers out there anymore?! Please, advise me in any way possible, i'm losing my mind! ..and my paycheck. ):
I think only unlimited one is sprint but its cdma I believe.. they wont cap you after 5gb
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AT&T is the only other of the "big 4" carriers that is GSM (Sprint and Verizon are CDMA). And AT&T does not have unlimited data plans anymore, and the G2 is not compatible with AT&T's 3G network anyway.
There might be some small regional carrier that has a better deal. But remember that the G2 only has 1700/2100 and 2100 MHz UMTS (3G) bands. If the regional carrier does not use those bands, 3G won't work.
simplemobile i think it is, thy use tmobiles network, i could b wrong, as im not from america haha
Beagan said:
simplemobile i think it is, thy use tmobiles network, i could b wrong, as im not from america haha
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According to Wiki, Simple uses T-Mobile and AT&T. Interesting, I wonder how that works, since those 2 carriers don't use the same 3G frequencies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
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simplemobile i think it is, thy use tmobiles network, i could b wrong, as im not from america haha
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Its who I use. And I like them. Me and my wife are currently paying a $100 a month. Me with data, her without. It would be $120 if she had it as well.
Walmart is starting a something called Family Mobile. Supposed to run on Tmobile's network. Month to month.
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If you can't pay or don't wanna pay the bill that comes with the phone of YOUR choice then you prob don't deserve the phone. That's my opinion.... Just saying. If you really wanna save money port your number to google voice and remove your sms plan and drop your minutes down. Be creative and you can save money.
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I have prepaid t-mobile 2gb data unlimited minutes for $70/month
moSess said:
Its who I use. And I like them. Me and my wife are currently paying a $100 a month. Me with data, her without. It would be $120 if she had it as well.
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is your mms on simple mobile fully functional?
Simplemobile is cheap and offers coverage from the same towers as T-mobile. They do offer an unlimited plan as well. You sign up with no credit check and they send you a SIM in the mail. Pretty solid and I'm surprised more people on XDA don't use them because this is a dream for someone who is frequently changing phones and doesn't wanna deal with bullsh*t carrier stuff. They're just the same as T-mobile without the big-company support lines, etc. and they don't deal with handsets, only SIM cards, so they're going to be cheaper.
You can also stay with T-mobile for a no contract plan. I'm on an "Even More+" plan. No contract, $59.99 a month 500 minutes, unlimited texts, "unlimited" 3g/(4g) data (aka 5gb then throttled). T-mo's no-contract plans are generally $20/month cheaper than the contract plans oddly enough. I believe the $69.99 plan is 1000 minutes, and theres an unlimited minutes tier at $79.99. From what I've heard theyre starting to phase out Even More+ plans because they like to have people in contracts and buy phones from them, and they really don't advertise them anymore, but when I went to my T-mobile store I specifically asked for it and they offered it no problem.
redpoint73 said:
According to Wiki, Simple uses T-Mobile and AT&T. Interesting, I wonder how that works, since those 2 carriers don't use the same 3G frequencies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
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They probably offer SIM's to people with T-mobile frequency phones, and other SIM's to people with AT&T frequency phones, and simply provide service to the set of towers your phone works with.
Beagan said:
simplemobile i think it is, thy use tmobiles network, i could b wrong, as im not from america haha
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Thank you for this information, i'm going to go look them up right now.
Finland_2_Cupertino said:
If you can't pay or don't wanna pay the bill that comes with the phone of YOUR choice then you prob don't deserve the phone. That's my opinion.... Just saying. If you really wanna save money port your number to google voice and remove your sms plan and drop your minutes down. Be creative and you can save money.
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Snarky, and rude. Your comment is null to this question thread. I'm sorry i don't have a high paying job and i'm sorry i don't like taking restrictions from the big guys and their mobile corporations. You can take your rude ass comments somewhere else, because they sure as hell aren't respected, nor needed here. Thanks.
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is your mms on simple mobile fully functional?
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No. And its quite frustrating. I'm sure its a simple setting.
ijoshv2 said:
Snarky, and rude. Your comment is null to this question thread. I'm sorry i don't have a high paying job and i'm sorry i don't like taking restrictions from the big guys and their mobile corporations. You can take your rude ass comments somewhere else, because they sure as hell aren't respected, nor needed here. Thanks.
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I agree. You can't blame OP for wanting a cheaper offering to run his phone. OP isn't looking for cheats to lower his bill or anything, he just wants a cheaper option. This is the main reason why a lot of people leave Verizon and AT&T for Sprint and T-Mobile.
I use a local carrier called cincinatti bell. Of course I live in....cincinatti,ohio! But it is free longdistance and unlimited data (no cap) but the "4g" speeds top out at 2.7 Mb in my area... they do have other store around the country and they say they use both T-mobile and att for roaming..... not sure if this helps as my bill is about the same as yours for two phones (1 with data) but at least it is unlimited for real! And the service is good. No contract.
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I've decided!
Turns out, one of you posters helped me out greatly by suggesting Simple Mobile. I checked their website, and i can get Unlimited Everything for 60$, and the SIM was only 12$. It's coming in the mail, and should arrive soon! I shall update later on about it's service. I'm not sure if it has truly unlimited data, so if anyone does know the answer to this question, that would be awesome! But if not, I'll just call customer service and ask them.
Oh, and another little tidbit; They support almost EVERY phone here in XDA! I looked a the list and it's HUGE. I highly recommend that all of you check this out. It looks like a great deal, and they cover everywhere that T-Mobile does, too! So, go check out the site!
http://www.mysimplemobile.com
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No. And its quite frustrating. I'm sure its a simple setting.
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mine work's sometimes,im wondering if anyone has a fix to it?
thepaddedroom said:
Walmart is starting a something called Family Mobile. Supposed to run on Tmobile's network. Month to month.
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'Tis true - I use them. The first line is $45 for unlimited minutes/text, up to 4 additional for $25 ea. You need to purchase data via fill cards (~$40/gig) but they don't expire.
Best part is, tmo phones work without SIM unlocking. I'm getting 4G on my Galaxy S 4G, and all I had to do was stick the SIM in.
Finland_2_Cupertino said:
If you can't pay or don't wanna pay the bill that comes with the phone of YOUR choice then you prob don't deserve the phone. That's my opinion.... Just saying.
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Wow. Just... wow. Seriously?

[POLL] Where will you be going when AT&T Acquires T-Mobile ?

Which carrier will you be going to when this god forsaken act happens ?
I love T-Mobile for the phones , plans , service , and coverage . Tis a sad
day for phone junkys . I will be going to Verizon when this happens . Its
gonna suck not being able to use my G2 anymore , Best phone ive ever
had hands down
Gonna go to SimpleMobile assuming that they don't get effected by the merger. We'll see when that happens. I'm tired of contracts and carrier bull****. I'll always bring my own phones.
I simply won't pay the ridiculous rates Verizon and AT&T charge. I can't stand helping companies that do that to people.
I pay $75 a month on T-Mo (w/ no contract, big plus) including handset protection and taxes, I'd be at about $110+ on Verizon or AT&T. And I'd be in a contract. F that.
At&t obviously
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Sprint. I'll probably switch when the evo 3d is released. No reason to wait for my device to become a paperweight, might as well sell now.
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Won't do business with Sprint again and absolutely despise AT&T so I guess that means Verizon.
IF the service ends up sucking (which given that they screwed up Cingular when they bought them), then I will switch to Verizon. We will see how this goes, if it even gets approved anyway, but at this point in time Verizon looks to have the better LTE network anyway.
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Sprint. I'll probably switch when the evo 3d is released. No reason to wait for my device to become a paperweight, might as well sell now.
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Although the Evo 3D is tempting, I need a physical keyboard. Whoever has a 3D screen, multicore processor and a physical keyboard gets my business.
I don't think after the merger "if" approved our phone will be paper weights I'm not seeing the problem if so I'm sure ugrades and so on will be offered. Most of us on XDA don't even keep our phones for a year so by the time this all happens will be on to the next best dual core device out there. I think with the pressure on the other carriers if this deal is approved we will probably see some good offerings from other companies to solicit our business. I'm sure verizon or sprint would love some tmo customers. Sad to see tmobile go but its the nature of the beast with this economy today were seeing allot of our favorite companies disappear. I've been a tmobile customer for 6+ years and I don't ever recall them being out of the #4 spot. This was bound to happen and I'm almost glad its with at&t then the rumored sprint. I have 5 tmobile phone lines on family plan all I can do is wait and see and make the best choice when its done for my money. I'm actually looking forward to better coverage and more phone choices.
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agreed.
however, i want to see how long i can stay on my even more+ plan with att before making a decision. if i can stay grandfathered in and keep the reduced rate with unlocked phones, maybe i will stay.
thats a big maybe though.
robot_agenda said:
agreed.
however, i want to see how long i can stay on my even more+ plan with att before making a decision. if i can stay grandfathered in and keep the reduced rate with unlocked phones, maybe i will stay.
thats a big maybe though.
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Same. AT&T's CEO said that they are "looking into" keeping the no-contract plans. Which means that they probably won't lol.
If I can stay on my $59.99 plan with no contract, and the service isn't complete abysmal, I'll stay with AT&T. If not, I guess I'll check my other options. Because I completely despise AT&T (as well as Verizon, boo CDMA) I really don't think I'd stay with them unless they can grandfather me in, which I don't think they'll do because they're not contractually obligated to offer me anything.
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agreed.
however, i want to see how long i can stay on my even more+ plan with att before making a decision. if i can stay grandfathered in and keep the reduced rate with unlocked phones, maybe i will stay.
thats a big maybe though.
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same for me i think... we'll just ride it out for now.
ive also heard about simple mobile, maybe ill check them out.
Mog said:
same for me i think... we'll just ride it out for now.
ive also heard about simple mobile, maybe ill check them out.
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Simple Mobiles uses TMO's 3G towers. The same towers ATT wants to build their 4G on. Which means no more 3G towers.
Who says simple mobile won't be paying att for the towers?
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sprint
if the deal goes through,and the customer service starts going to **** like at&t is known for and pricing starts rising im outta here,will def look into sprint cuz there prices are good as well as there coverage,and they got some pretty nice phones right now(evo 4g,epic 4g,evo shift) so im guessing in a year they will have better faster phones all with FFC and dual-cores....hopefully
I would love to leave right now because I'm honestly just pissed off at T-Mobile as a company (I know that DT did it, but it's a branch of them) and I don't want to give them anymore business, but, I don't have the luxury of paying $1000 to pay the ETF fees on the account.
I'll be pretty screwed if AT&T doesn't nullify contracts and let people leave.
Most likely Sprint. They're currently the closest to T-Mobile in pricing and unlimited data. Plus it looks like Sprint and Google are gonna be working more closely with the full integration of Google Voice and Google building their new gigabit broadband network in Sprint's backyard.
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I'm going to have to go with Sprint as well. Even though their coverage where I am at isn't the greatest, they're the only other company that can get close to the rate plans that Tmobile offers.
Also: bugger paying $30/mo for a a data plan that I LITERALLY MUST PURCHASE TO ACTIVATE THE DEVICE even though Verizon has no 3g or 4g coverage in my area. God forbid I actually utilize a smartphone as a cellphone by turning off my data connection whenever possible. I already do this on Tmobile as they have zero 3g coverage in my zone and will likely continue doing it into the future.
Telecoms in the US are holding the consumer over a burning cauldron of oil and splitting them in half in the name of "good customer service." This unmitigated greed will not be stopped by those who are charged with protecting the populace from the foibles of big business.
Edit 2: Okay so I've done comparative pricing between my current Tmobile plan and a rough equivalent on ATT. All in all I would be paying an additional $6 dollars before tax and fees for 50 less minutes and no insurance on my device. The fact that unlimited texts cost $20/month is absolutely absurd as lets face it, that calculates out to something like just over a grand per MB of data transferred
In short: Go set your head on fire ATT. I will remove myself from the 21st century and forgo the conveniences of smartphones if it means giving you any of my money. I'll live in a box under a bridge enjoying sprint band coverage on virgin mobile for $25/month with unlimited text data and 300 talk minutes.
Simplemobile maybe a good alternative but I'm holding out for the LG phone which is supposedly going to work with at&t 3g signal as well T mobiles. Also my main concern is how Android friendly at&t will be since they are still committed primary to the iphone?
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i intend to find out if the gov't approves, then i am going to upgrade all 3 phones on my plan, and lock in my plan for 3+ years, even if ATT acquires Tmo, they will have to honor all the existing contracts for at least a few years, that we we can see the prices level out with only 3 "large" carriers...I would have to pay 75+ more dollars for a comparable plan to my tmo plan on ATT, and thats just nuts, to step down on the customer support and network quality is just crazy, but in a way since all us tmo people have good service, i see that the added towers to ATT's network will improve it for everyone, and thats why ATT wants Tmo, a 'cheap' way to 4g, not to mention the spectrum space.
Sprint for sure my parents just switched from ATT after 7 years to sprint cause I pushed them to do it, and I'm waiting for the evo 3d to come out so I can make my move.
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7 things Sprint is doing right

Some of the things Sprint now offers which, in my oppinion, sets the company apart from other cariers:
1. $125 credit for any new number ported to sprint. If you’re on a contract this will help you with that termination fee. I’ve gotten $150 for one of my friends who switched.
2. Truly unlimited data. Few months ago sprint removed their 5GB throttle and is now advertising it while others are limiting their users. This may not be true with their data devices but it’s true with all phones.
3. Free port of your sprint phone number to Google Voice. It used to cost $20 and you had to be off contract to avoid termination fees to be able to port it to Google Voice. Sprint is the first telecom company to partner with Google and offer this.
4. 30 return/cancel contract no questions asked. Again, Sprint was the first one to offer this. If you don’t like the service, they’ll take you off contract after you return the phone with no questions asked.
5. Switch plans without signing up for new contracts. Once again, another dumb rule got thrown out the window and now you can switch plans all you want.
6. Recent change in policy will now require all Sprint service stores to service rooted phones.
7. Recent change in policy will now allow you to remove some or all Sprint pre-installed apps.
And no, I’m not working for sprint.
True 4G? No, I don't think so.
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But they do charge an extra 10 dollars for 4g,and if T-Mobile does get gobbled up by att, who's to say if Verizon doesn't turn around and do the same to sprint...
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Great post, will definitely help inform people about sprint. Few things though. As far as unlimited data, the 5 gb cap still exists on 3g data, only 4g is uncapped. Also, nobody in USA has true 4g, not even Verizon's amazing LTE is true 4g. Wimax only pulls 10 Megs on average, thats about it. I think true 4g is like 4-6 x's that, or something. Either way, Sprint is not true 4g. You should also tell people the downside of sprint 4g, i.e., it really only works in cars/outside/or buildings with lots of windows. The bandwidth for Wimax doesnt penetrate at all.
I'm in Pittsburgh, so coverage isn't an issue with T-mobile, but let just say a couple things:
1. True 4g? Come on, lets be honest. If you're gonna pull that bull then Verizon is the only one with it.
2. If I remember correctly, Sprint's "4G" is actually slower than T-mobile's "3.5G", so it doesn't matter what it's called. I don't care if something's 10G if it provides lower speeds than 3G.
3. Sprint costs $40 for 4g, while right now I'm paying $20 for 4g (yeah I have a 3g phone, but that's not the point here).
4. Overall pricing is generally lower on T-mobile, so I think that's why several of us will stay. Once my contract is up 2 years from now, then I'll think about it (since a new contract would cost a lot more. Thanks AT&T&T)
That being said, I know sprint's coverage in other areas may be better, so experiences may differ. I thought I'd just offer my 2 cents
I prefer GSM phones
Sprint 4g is only $10 a month, their plans include data so its not 30 + 10. And I have to disagree with tmobile being cheaper. Sprint has unlimited plan starting at 69, add 4g you have unlimited evrything for less than 80 a month. Last time I was with tmobile I think unlimited plans were like 89 or 99. I am a huge fan of tmobile though and if they had a nexus s 4g also, I would go with them over sprint any day.
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I'm in Pittsburgh, so coverage isn't an issue with T-mobile, but let just say a couple things:
1. True 4g? Come on, lets be honest. If you're gonna pull that bull then Verizon is the only one with it.
2. If I remember correctly, Sprint's "4G" is actually slower than T-mobile's "3.5G", so it doesn't matter what it's called. I don't care if something's 10G if it provides lower speeds than 3G.
3. Sprint costs $40 for 4g, while right now I'm paying $20 for 4g (yeah I have a 3g phone, but that's not the point here).
4. Overall pricing is generally lower on T-mobile, so I think that's why several of us will stay. Once my contract is up 2 years from now, then I'll think about it (since a new contract would cost a lot more. Thanks AT&T&T)
That being said, I know sprint's coverage in other areas may be better, so experiences may differ. I thought I'd just offer my 2 cents
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Some valid points. Except that unlimited cap. The 5GB is gone. I'm not sure where you get that info.
I agree with the 4G being slow but wimax can be definitely faster than t-mobile 3.5G it's just, as I mentioned, sprint has been offering that for over a year now and has many devices on it. When a bunch of people access the same tower speeds go down. Hopefully they can expand and improve over time. So I disagree that it's all about speed. I think it's all about the technology which, with enough hardware/$$ can create a faster speeds.
As far as pricing goes... it changes from day to day but they are both competitive and offer low prices compared to the other two giants. But I think sprint's coverage all around is better. I guess it depends where you live.
Also, gsm is better in many ways but one thing it doesn't do well in contrast to cdma is switch between towers. Drive 70mph on a state highway while talking on a gsm phone and find out.
obsanity said:
Some valid points. Except that unlimited cap. The 5GB is gone. I'm not sure where you get that info.
I agree with the 4G being slow but wimax can be definitely faster than t-mobile 3.5G it's just, as I mentioned, sprint has been offering that for over a year now and has many devices on it. When a bunch of people access the same tower speeds go down. Hopefully they can expand and improve over time. So I disagree that it's all about speed. I think it's all about the technology which, with enough hardware/$$ can create a faster speeds.
As far as pricing goes... it changes from day to day but they are both competitive and offer low prices compared to the other two giants. But I think sprint's coverage all around is better. I guess it depends where you live.
Also, gsm is better in many ways but one thing it doesn't do well in contrast to cdma is switch between towers. Drive 70mph on a state highway while talking on a gsm phone and find out.
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It appears you are correct sir, 3g is not capped anymore either. Funny, it only lasted a few months. And it appears it was rarely enforced anyway.
I have to say I like sprint a lot. I bought the nexus s on T-Mobile after being lied to by their customer service that it was excellent cell and data coverage in my area. But after getting the phone, I had absolutely no coverage in my home....well to be honest I had 1 bar to none. Then the data was a joke...it was 2G.
I personally don't mind paying the $10 extra fee.
Sprint's plans is nice...and the 1500 minute family share plan is basically unlimited everything because you get free mobile to mobile minutes. I got ridof our house phone and got my wife and my daughter a cellphone....sprint is becoming a strong company...but this is all my opinion.
I'm sure people feel the total opposite and like T-Mobile, but to each their own.
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My biggest problem with sprint is the 3g speed ...wimax is fast but using it all the time sucks down battery...so most of the time you are using sprints slow 3g ....contrast that with T-Mobile where the speeds don't impact battery life or signal strength...on my nexus s I average 3mb down ...on sprint 3g I would be lucky to see 800kb down
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well for sprint users a reason to change to the nexus s could be to get away from the rude evo community
Something I don't understand is why people will stay in a contract for 2 years because they do not want to pay the early termination fee. I can understand if you do not have the money right now. Simple math tells you what the cheapest answer is. I will make up some fictitious numbers for my example. Which is cheaper, paying 300 dollars for the early termination fee, or paying your cellphone bill of let's say 50 dollars a month for the next 24 months. Now granted when you change carriers, your first months bill is going to be pretty high. The reason behind that is, you are paying for a phone, a prorated month, a regular month, and all the fees associated with starting a new account.
But all that added together is still cheaper than paying 1200 dollars for 2 years of service. I do understand the differences between long term and short term cost. I also understand that many people may not have enough money to make the switch now. Regardless of you switching now or later, you will still pay the same amount of money when starting a new line of service with a new carrier.
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Great post, will definitely help inform people about sprint. Few things though. As far as unlimited data, the 5 gb cap still exists on 3g data, only 4g is uncapped. Also, nobody in USA has true 4g, not even Verizon's amazing LTE is true 4g. Wimax only pulls 10 Megs on average, thats about it. I think true 4g is like 4-6 x's that, or something. Either way, Sprint is not true 4g. You should also tell people the downside of sprint 4g, i.e., it really only works in cars/outside/or buildings with lots of windows. The bandwidth for Wimax doesnt penetrate at all.
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As far as I know, no one in the world has true LTE yet. LTE theoretical shared rate is ~320 Mbit/s or ~172 Mbit/s in download and ~90 Mbit/s for upload, usually the "merchandised 4G" is a HSPA++ at 48 Mbit/s (where it can reach that rate) or some "early stage" 4G implementation as the entire standard involves deep core network changes.
At the moment it is... merchandise
Can someone explain if sprint is a mobile operator or another version of Nexus S.
I have nexus S bought with T-mobile, is it possible for me to get 4G on my phone? does it support 4G ?!?! If so, its Superb news, since we have 4G everywhere soon in Sweden.
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Sprint 4g is only $10 a month, their plans include data so its not 30 + 10. And I have to disagree with tmobile being cheaper. Sprint has unlimited plan starting at 69, add 4g you have unlimited evrything for less than 80 a month. Last time I was with tmobile I think unlimited plans were like 89 or 99. I am a huge fan of tmobile though and if they had a nexus s 4g also, I would go with them over sprint any day.
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Sprint's 69.99 is 450 minutes and unlimited data, + the $10 fee which they swear is not for 4g (and technically it's not since they slap it on all smartphones), so really their cheapest plan is 79.99 for 450 minutes and unlimited data.
T-mobile has basically the same plan for the same price, 500 minutes, unlimited data (yes you're throttled after 5gig but you're not cut off), 79.99 if you're on contract.
If you're NOT on contract (ie; you bought your phone outright), you can get the same package for 59.99 with an Even More Plus plan (basically if you aren't subsidizing your phone, and thus are not on a contract, your plans are $20 cheaper across the board). Sprint doesn't do this. Even if you finish your full contract time on sprint, you'll still pay the same 79.99 per month.
You really don't want to try and claim that Sprint is cheaper than Tmo, they are not. They're about the same if you're on a contract, and Tmo is about $20 cheaper if you're not on contract.
Ultimately in the end it boils down to who has better service in your particular area as to which carrier you prefer.
In my case, I had sprint, the voice service in my area was good, but the data speeds were terrible, so I switched to Tmo, who has excellent voice and data service where I live, and I pay less per month since I own my nexus-s.
all depends on who your calling sprint offers any mobile any time with that 450..
also for sprint family plans its 20 bucks a line +10 bucks if they are smart phones.. how much are they for tmobile?
Raver27 said:
But they do charge an extra 10 dollars for 4g,and if T-Mobile does get gobbled up by att, who's to say if Verizon doesn't turn around and do the same to sprint...
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Sprint no longer has the $10 fee
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Sprint no longer has the $10 fee
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That is completely and totally false. Sorry.
Hey netarchy....
I thought tmo did away with off contract prices being 20 bucks cheaper? I can't find that anywhere on their site and I could have sworn that when I bought my nexus s the tmo reps telling me that buying it off contract won't save me on my monthly bills.
And yes sprint still hits you for the ten bucks a month.
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TMOBILE vs SPRINT

Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
mikerowes69 said:
Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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Thanks for your info. It will not bother too much since I dont use over 2 GB a month.
BrianDigital said:
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM, the phones are not interchangable on each other's network. You would have to get a GSM phone, and it would have to have T-Mobile specific frequencies for HSPDA+ (Their "4G" which is 1700mhz, different that AT&T's 1900mhz) in order to get 4G speeds.
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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I bought my phone (i9020T) used for around 200, but you can still find new ones around on the internet for I think around 400-500 USD maybe cheaper if you can find a good deal. The i9023 (the SLCD screen) is usually cheaper. I found some online for around 300 - 350 USD. Both the i9023 and the i9020T will work with 3G on T-Mobile's network. The data speeds I get are quite good as well. Some places I'll get as much as 5 megs down but the norm is usually around 3 to 4 for me. There are no limitation with the plan really that I can think of. I mean the only thing is that you only get 100 minutes but I've bought Groove IP (VOIP app in the Play Store) so essentially I have unlimited minutes now as well. Only paying $30 a month.
All you have to do is get a T-Mobile prepaid sim from the website and pop it in the phone and you're good to go.
I did exact as user above, $30 and then Groove IP. For my location T-Mobile is vastly faster, but you have to check your location coverage. In big cities Sprint can be fast. Since their phone is CDMA they don't use SIM so their phones goes for slighty lower value. You can get Sprint Nexus S cheaper than GSM version.
Check here for some prepaid plans: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21604722&postcount=2
I hope this doesn't seem like an ass move but, but I have a Nexus S t-mobile for sale.
I can't wait my etc goes down to a hundred in a month, I'm debating just going galaxy nexus or HTC one x, either one that's for sale at best buy and use that buy back plan which my girl didbwith her new iPhone 4s she's been guarenteed 400 bucks before six months, it almost worth it to be a phone whore
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I like the Pre-Paid Montly plans in T-Mobile.
$30 100 mins/UL SMS/ 5GB 4G data Walmart and online?
$30 1500 min-SMS /30Mb
$50 UL min/UL SMS/ UL Data(1st 100 mb at 4G)
$60 UL /UL /UL Data (1st 2GB 4G)
I use the $50, You can change every month to any of the plans.
Tip :If you buy the Card in Calling Mart $100 goes for $95 no tax charged.
So if you pick the $50 it would be like paying around 44+Tax in a post paid (Yes $44 for an unlimited everything).
About Signal, I don't have problems, ATT is a little better(3G+) but much more expensive.
Now I don't like Sprint or Verizon because I like the flexibility of having a GSM unlocked phone.

Verizon doing away with unlimited data, forcing tiered data

Just read that this summer all current Verizon users who are grandfathered into unlimited 3G will be forced to switch to tiered shared data plans. Exact words were "Verizon will have no problem making money" off the plans. I have been grandfathered to unlimited data. And not that I use a lot what I don't like is that the price of data is about to get considerably more expensive and I for one am already extremely unhappy with vz and this just further makes Mr want to tell Verizon to shove it up their a$$ when my contract ends next January. Thoughts anyone?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
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Wow, guess I will be sticking with my Xperia Play for quite some time. My fiance has a Razr, so our 4G unlimited needs are covered. If Verizon is doing crap like this then they need to understand they are not a "telephony" service anymore. All I need is an IP address assigned to me and let me pay $5-$10 per GB I use per line.
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Just read that this summer all current Verizon users who are grandfathered into unlimited 3G will be forced to switch to tiered shared data plans. Exact words were "Verizon will have no problem making money" off the plans. I have been grandfathered to unlimited data. And not that I use a lot what I don't like is that the price of data is about to get considerably more expensive and I for one am already extremely unhappy with vz and this just further makes Mr want to tell Verizon to shove it up their a$$ when my contract ends next January. Thoughts anyone?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
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You already know I have something to say
So far it claims that this wont effect 3g users until they upgrade to a 4g phone, I have an upgrade but I will not be using it EVER unless an xplay2 comes out ! Which could be never. But I had a feeling this would happen eventually. I seriously think the part about "making money off of data plans" is crap. They claim they want to push people into using more data, thats kinda crazy the actually claim this ya know. Like Gee thanks Verizon their basically saying " we cant wait to bank people on data plans"
I read about this.
They are doing away with unlimited, but they are introducing "shared data". I personally use about 200mb a month. So if they do 2GB for $30 SHARED (any phone and any tablet) then I'll be very happy.
I would prefer to use my smartphones without a data plan and only voice and wifi if I could do that.
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So if we just buy on ebay used phones and swap sim cards we shouldn't be affected? They said you will be forced to tier "upon upgrading". The best thing to do is wait a few weeks before this goes into effect and but the best 4g phone they have and that will get you two more years of unlimited lte
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I think that Verizon is going to find out that they could have made more money if they had kept unlimited data and raised the price of data by a few dollars. As of right now, they are forcing many users to lower their data plan and use less data because it is all they can afford. This means that they won't get much more money than before and the customer will get less data overall. Is that what they really want? If they want people to move over to tiered then they need to start updating their phones on time or even at all, and go out and get the best phones on their network. That way people will want to upgrade because the new phone is irresistible.
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This move has me thinking when some sort of Xperia Play 2 maybe comes out I will just buy an unlocked one and go on AT&T who is getting way better, as long as they support unlocked phones on what will be 4GLTE by then. Hopefully I can get an unsubsidized plan, for cheaper, and I can tell Big Red to suck a fattie, on principal.
There's one word to explain my emotions right now about this: f*ck. I use over 2GB a month with PDANet and Barnacle Tether. I need mah dataaaaaa!!!!
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The only reason I'm still with verizon instead of, say, AT&T is because I've got unlimited data. I use AT&T uVerse for home internet, so I can get a wireless deal. If I'm going to be forced to pay for tiered data, then I'm going to go to the cheapest place that has it for the most data. Not sure if its AT&T or not, but I'm going to start looking.
Rogue Leader said:
This move has me thinking when some sort of Xperia Play 2 maybe comes out I will just buy an unlocked one and go on AT&T who is getting way better, as long as they support unlocked phones on what will be 4GLTE by then. Hopefully I can get an unsubsidized plan, for cheaper, and I can tell Big Red to suck a fattie, on principal.
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I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
crono141 said:
The only reason I'm still with verizon instead of, say, AT&T is because I've got unlimited data. I use AT&T uVerse for home internet, so I can get a wireless deal. If I'm going to be forced to pay for tiered data, then I'm going to go to the cheapest place that has it for the most data. Not sure if its AT&T or not, but I'm going to start looking.
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I agree. Its been a thought of mine for awhile now I guess. I love my Play and wouldn't mind a 4g one and At&t really isn't that bad. Verizon isnt "exactly" being a loyal provider ..
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Yeah I was with Cingular, then 2 months later they officially became AT&T, and was with them for 4 years, I had bought an unlocked phone after my contract phone died and stayed on a month to month plan, Then I moved to Utah where all my family is, moved so my kids can be around their cousins, and about 6 months here switched to VZ, bought a droid 2 global (f...u.... Moto) and noticed that my data speeds from AT&T were around 1-1.5mbps, VZ here is horrible. I have never gotten faster then 250kbps. This mixed with their bs pricing and lousy service, both hardware, and firmware related, and now the data tiered..... yup I am going to walk into a VZ store grab a VZ flyer stick it down my pants, wipe, and stick it on the door handle. Sorry for the rant, just have a lot of anger with VZ. I'm paying $30 a month for terrible data, I can barely do GPS sometimes. Rant done
216Monster said:
I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
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Att's "4G" Play isn't true 4G LTE. The next Play I'm sure will be but I've read rumors that ATT and others may not support unlocked phones on their 4G networks (which doesn't make sense at all, but I wouldn't be surprised). Guess we will see. We are 6 months to a year out from a new Play anyway, if it even happens.
216Monster said:
I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
I agree. Its been a thought of mine for awhile now I guess. I love my Play and wouldn't mind a 4g one and At&t really isn't that bad. Verizon isnt "exactly" being a loyal provider ..
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I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
jgregoryj1 said:
Yeah I was with Cingular, then 2 months later they officially became AT&T, and was with them for 4 years, I had bought an unlocked phone after my contract phone died and stayed on a month to month plan, Then I moved to Utah where all my family is, moved so my kids can be around their cousins, and about 6 months here switched to VZ, bought a droid 2 global (f...u.... Moto) and noticed that my data speeds from AT&T were around 1-1.5mbps, VZ here is horrible. I have never gotten faster then 250kbps. This mixed with their bs pricing and lousy service, both hardware, and firmware related, and now the data tiered..... yup I am going to walk into a VZ store grab a VZ flyer stick it down my pants, wipe, and stick it on the door handle. Sorry for the rant, just have a lot of anger with VZ. I'm paying $30 a month for terrible data, I can barely do GPS sometimes. Rant done
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Thats pretty funny though I say you go for it and then be run like hell outa there to nearest att store with the flyer
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Att's "4G" Play isn't true 4G LTE. The next Play I'm sure will be but I've read rumors that ATT and others may not support unlocked phones on their 4G networks (which doesn't make sense at all, but I wouldn't be surprised). Guess we will see. We are 6 months to a year out from a new Play anyway, if it even happens.
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But its still 4g.. certainly can't be slower then vz 3g right?
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I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Yea att 4g play has some perks I must say!
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But its still 4g.. certainly can't be slower then vz 3g right?
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Supposedly ATT 3G is faster than Verizon 3G. Their "4G" right now is HSPA+ which is really more like 3.5G so its definitely faster. However the new 4G LTE, its like broadband speed. My Mother has a 4G LTE Droid Razr, its so fast that her data service is indistinguishable from WiFi from our cable connection.
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I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Eh, the only reason that AT&T can do both voice and data at the same time is because of how their signal works. Those phones are always receiving two types of signal, so when you're on the phone, the data works at the same time, so long as you have adequate signal for that function.
Personally, the simultaneous voice and data isn't really a draw for me, as I can't think of when I'd ever need to use it. Besides that, it seems rude, at least to me, to be talking and surfing at the same time.
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Supposedly ATT 3G is faster than Verizon 3G. Their "4G" right now is HSPA+ which is really more like 3.5G so its definitely faster. However the new 4G LTE, its like broadband speed. My Mother has a 4G LTE Droid Razr, its so fast that her data service is indistinguishable from WiFi from our cable connection.
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Oh . Well ty for the info! And my brother has a droid4 and vz 4glte is some quick stuff definitely!
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Verizon is only forcing you to a tiered plan when you get a new 3G or 4G phone. Otherwise, you can keep your unlimited data.
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Verizon is only forcing you to a tiered plan when you get a new 3G or 4G phone. Otherwise, you can keep your unlimited data.
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Until they change that to
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Do we have any idea when this will take effect, or just "sometime this summer"?

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