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I am a Xperia X1 user and am looking for a good android phone, which I have narrowed down to a Desire or a SGS.
I really like the added benefits of the SGS (Better Screen, 8GB internal memory, HD Video), but cannot deny the fact that the UI on the Desire (Sense) is much better than the Samsung setup….
What are your opinions on the standard system?
The reason why I am asking here is that you all will generally have experience with Sense, which all of the custom ROMs for my xperia has been brilliant over the past 18months (kept it alive).
I notice that the SGS XDA portal, has a lot less posts than the HTC Desire forum, but I am hoping that this is due to the fact that the Desire has been out longer than the Samsung.
I am due to upgrade my phone in 10 days so need to figure out which way to go.
All opinions are welcome!
When I purchase this phone my thought was:
1. UI and software can be update and modified, hardwares are fixed.
2. Communities and 3rd party supports for this phone, which are great right now.
These are enough for me.
djglenn1337 said:
I am a Xperia X1 user and am looking for a good android phone, which I have narrowed down to a Desire or a SGS.
I really like the added benefits of the SGS (Better Screen, 8GB internal memory, HD Video), but cannot deny the fact that the UI on the Desire (Sense) is much better than the Samsung setup….
What are your opinions on the standard system?
The reason why I am asking here is that you all will generally have experience with Sense, which all of the custom ROMs for my xperia has been brilliant over the past 18months (kept it alive).
I notice that the SGS XDA portal, has a lot less posts than the HTC Desire forum, but I am hoping that this is due to the fact that the Desire has been out longer than the Samsung.
I am due to upgrade my phone in 10 days so need to figure out which way to go.
All opinions are welcome!
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I've had an iPhone 3G and a 3GS. Sold the 3GS a month ago to buy the iPhone 4. Due to every shop being out of stock on these babys, I decided to give Android a chance.
I nearly bought the Xperia X10 but in some shop they had a Galaxy S Demo Unit. I grabbed it and fell in love with it. It's so light-weight compared to other smartphones!
When I went home with it, I read some footage about it on engadget, gizmodo, etc. I didn't know it was the strongest Android phone at this time. I was very surprised and even more in love!
The screen is a blast.
I was in the same situation, though I was coming from a WinMo handset. I'm so happy with my choice, I know a few nexus one and desire owners who are now wanting a SCS - which says a lot.
My last phone was an HD2 with WinMo 6.5.5 wich have a wunderful community (Android development very fast).
But the Samsung i9000 is a nice Phone, with a wunderful screen, and 720p videoplayback and recording. And of corse, Android.
(Faster than HD2 [thanks Android], more Apps, 720p rec/play, etc...)
Thanks very much for the feedback guys... its good to get opionions of Win Mo users switching, as most reviews I have read on the internet is based on prev Iphone users (who's opinions I do not value).
Are you guys mostly using the stock SGS software, or running custom roms?
laxtor said:
My last phone was an HD2 with WinMo 6.5.5 wich have a wunderful community (Android development very fast).
But the Samsung i9000 is a nice Phone, with a wunderful screen, and 720p videoplayback and recording. And of corse, Android.
(Faster than HD2 [thanks Android], more Apps, 720p rec/play, etc...)
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Do you prefer this phone to your HD2? The HD2 was a great phone (as was the TyTn II)!
I am using factory's rom with a little bit of addition: rooting + auto killer to manage memories.
From an Omnia i900 winmo. 6.5.5 user, I have no lags problem on this phone.
Well, how about the opinion of a user switching between iPhone 3GS, Symbian s60v3 and v5, WinMo6, 6.1, and 6.5 and Android 1.5, 1.6, and 2.1 phones, in order to find my perfect suite?!? Actually my last/previous phone was Vivaz PRO
It is really the best phone that i laid my hands on up to now.
Hardware-wise, unbelievable super AMOLED multi-touch screen, fantastic HD video camera, super-fast CPU, a lot of RAM, 8GB internal memory and VERY VERY light! (OK, I miss the LED flash, but I can live with that).
Software-wise, I believe, after a lot of experience with multiple OSs, that Android is the future (at least for the next couple of years). Very smooth OS, open to do everything you wish (root, custom firmware, install pirate soft, etc) easily, and VERY FAST GROWING/UPDATING (compared with WinMo and symbian, that feel a bit ancient by now).
Go for it bro! You wont regret!
Just sold mine galaxy s on ebay.. and for a very good price I am so happy now
If you are like me and use gps navigation a lot, simply run away from this phone.
I am now back to my HD2 (so happy I did not sell it). No navigation software can compare with tom tom.
All in all galaxy s has:
Superb screen:
HD video recording
And that is about it….
The gps is rubbish, don’t listen to the people telling you that they fixed it…
All “fixes” are just to provide fast network location fix (which in most cases is inaccurate)
With my HD2 it does not matter how cloudy it is, and how tall are the buildings around me,
I have GPS fix in 3-5sec and I MEAN GPS FIX, not network location fix.
SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I AM.
2 days ago I was in central London and tried to find the closest tesco with google maps…
After 5min I just gave up… galaxy s simply could not do it
With HD2 things like that takes 10 to 20 sec (including typing tesco in the search bar)
I am also very disappointed with the android OS,
This thing does not even support external gps… we had that in winmo 10 years ago…
It has all sorts of problems, for example application starting on the background (consuming data) and there is simply no way for the user to control that.
One more thing the internal memory card is very very very slow and this slows down the devise a lot. Sure people will tell you about the sd card fix but REALLYYYY… should I start fixing the Samsung rubbish? No thanks, will stay away from Samsung and android for another 2 years (at least)
same here i always purchase my smartphones by the hardware spec, and the amount of Forums/groups available for it.
unfortunately the HTC Athena was flawed, the device itself is amazingly great, howerver support for it was low.
SGS i9000 on the other hand has a very lively group just like HTC Desire
kcharng said:
When I purchase this phone my thought was:
1. UI and software can be update and modified, hardwares are fixed.
2. Communities and 3rd party supports for this phone, which are great right now.
These are enough for me.
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mitko76 Good luck doing anything with GPS in central London...Buildings have this horrible side effect on ALL GPS systems.
Google maps is easily the best Search for phone, but not the greatest GPS, since is need a Connection to work if you deviate from the rout too much.
I've had this phone for w eek now and it is a great phone, there are a few niggles in the software, but believe me way less than stock windows mobile 6.5.
The screen isn;t as crisp as people would have you believe, White text on a dark background gives you a red effect around text and text Isn;t smooth, no where near the Iphone 4 IMO, however the contrast and colours are superb.
Give it a go if your on contract you have 7 days to return it.
Logicalstep
As a x1 user who has just upgraded to a Galaxy S a week past i can say that it is definetly worth it.
I did own a Desire for a day when i got it on contract but i didn't get coverage for the network in my area.
I find the Galaxy S to be a nicer looking phone, screen looks a lot brighter and better. Sound quality from the speaker is better and the UI also seems much faster.
It's a great phone, no questions asked, but you have to realize that it needs some work (like the fixes and all) and customization.
I'm using the imfamous JF3 stock rom and i do notice some lags and battery drain (but I use it very heavily, frequent syncs and updates, tons of widgets and all that) so i'm gonna switch over to the better ones.
I come from the Omnia II wich was a great phone but very poorly supported by samsung and the community. This isn't the case at all for the SGS. I used to have sense on my device, big fan of sense, but i like the SGS homescreen as well with the different pannels, really like it. Touchwizz is sort of a love/hate relationship
I'm loving android so far, even though i don't understand everything, i'm sure i could enhance my phone a lot.
hope this helps
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mitko76 Good luck doing anything with GPS in central London...Buildings have this horrible side effect on ALL GPS systems.
Google maps is easily the best Search for phone, but not the greatest GPS, since is need a Connection to work if you deviate from the rout too much.
I've had this phone for w eek now and it is a great phone, there are a few niggles in the software, but believe me way less than stock windows mobile 6.5.
The screen isn;t as crisp as people would have you believe, White text on a dark background gives you a red effect around text and text Isn;t smooth, no where near the Iphone 4 IMO, however the contrast and colours are superb.
Give it a go if your on contract you have 7 days to return it.
Logicalstep
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Logicalstep, that is what I am trying to explain .. I DO NOT NEED “Good Luck” when using my hd2’s gps in central London, it simply work. I work in central London so trust me, I know what I am talking about.
If you are coming from a phone with poor gps I can understand your point, but hd2 simply has a proper gps unit in it and it is working no matter where I am. With HD2 I can even get gps lock in the train (10 sec), tried this with galaxy s and guess what... it FAILED (after 10min).
You can keep convincing yourself that the buildings are high, the sky is cloudy or God knows what ..
But the simple truth is the gps is rubbish.
Keep waiting for the NEXT firmware to fix the issues, and when it failed keep waiting for the next one and so on....
Mitko please do us a favour and leave the forum, we know that you sold your Galaxy S, and frankly its quite boring to see you posting on every thread and preaching slander. The GPS does take a short while to position (about 30-40 secs) but after that it works perfectly for me. I have used it on several occasions when lost in central London.
Since last December I've owned the following handsets: N900, HD2, Desire, X10, Galaxy S.
Of all of these the Galaxy S is my favorite, followed very closely by the HD2.
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Since last December I've owned the following handsets: N900, HD2, Desire, X10, Galaxy S.
Of all of these the Galaxy S is my favorite, followed very closely by the HD2.
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Coming from you that is high praise indeed.
Loving my SGS, no way am I going back to Symbian.
On my side I am coming from winmo6.5 and then iphone3GS
if i had an advice to give you in order to choose between the desire and the samsung it would be to know that :
* you won't have HTC sense on samsung ... I mean really nothing comparable.
* there is almost no button on the samsung .No trackball ( painfull for selection) no LED ... and it's quite annoying some time
Yes when I compare both with my colleague , mine has a better screen ( bigger , brighter) but it will worth it if you watch a lot of video or look at a lot of picture. If it's just to have more beautifull icon ... you will forget it looks better after few weeks
I am still a little bit uncertain about the GPS ... I need to do more tests and to check the settings I could enhance but it can't be compared to my TomTom ( on both winmo and iphone)
Hopefully there will be soon a real fix for the slowness of the SD card ... hopefully ...
Thanks guys, this is brilliant information!
I used the phone briefly in a phone shop yesterday, and I have to say that it looks very impressive! Especially compared to my x1 running Windows 6.5.3. The only first negative impression that I had was how cheap and flimsy the back cover was...but I hey, I know no phone will be perfect.
When my contract is up next week, and I am going to go for the SGS and as Logicalstep has commented I have 7 days to return it if unhappy.
I really appreciate the feedback, as it has made me allot more comfortable with going for the SGS.
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Thanks guys, this is brilliant information!
I used the phone briefly in a phone shop yesterday, and I have to say that it looks very impressive! Especially compared to my x1 running Windows 6.5.3. The only first negative impression that I had was how cheap and flimsy the back cover was...but I hey, I know no phone will be perfect.
When my contract is up next week, and I am going to go for the SGS and as Logicalstep has commented I have 7 days to return it if unhappy.
I really appreciate the feedback, as it has made me allot more comfortable with going for the SGS.
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I'm sure you will enjoy it
And honestly i agree about the cheap looking back but honestly that's why it is so light and you forget about this quickly.
Especially if you add a case ( you have some very thin one)
Hi to all Canadian users
Samsung Galaxy S series phone is coming to Canada very soon. Almost all the carriers has one. I am with rogers and they are getting the captivate.
I am really really tired of waiting for 2.1 /2.2 or just getting all the bugs fixed. There is no 65K screen, no multi touch (please don't start arguing that there is no use of MT, there are other forums for that). I don't even know how many other stuffs I should be complaining about....someone cares to fill them!
So yeah I am jumping the ship when Captivate comes to Rogers. Anyone else wanna join??
I personally think the samsung captivate lacks in style, and It's samsung you wouldn't get great support either. I ready stick with S.E design is much better.
Why did you buy x10 if you knew it had 1.6 firmware...
Its your choice my friend just look in the Samsung Galaxy S forum before you decide to buy it. Apparently there is a lot of people unhappy with it, problems like overheating, sluggish performance, burn ins on the screen, fast battery drain, bad build quality (cheap plastic) and lots of other things. I am also in Canada and looked at it as an option but i came to the conclusion that it wont be better than the x10 or at least not worth the switch. The fact that its a Samsung phone puts me away also, oh and no flash or light for the camera? wtf. Anyway make sure you read all the problems that people have with it before you buy it so that you know what you re getting into.
Yah im looking into the vibrant myself. Then again im also thinking about the n900 still. Going to check a bell store tomorrow to try out the vibrant. The screen looks amazing in all the reviews ive seen. Really gotta check it out.
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Not a bad phone but i would say, wait a few weeks and after the launch take the decision.
It does some things better than the X10 (faster, multitouch, froyo), it does some things worse (no LED flash, IMO worse screen, worse build quality, poor support).
Just make sure you know the phone before you buy it. You probably won't regret it, but it's not any significant improvement (aside from OS)...
Look, if someone with a Desire or a Galaxy S wants to do a straight trade, then I am sold, but I am not going to go through the hassle of selling my X10, then forking over an extra $250 to get either one of those.
At that rate, I'd rather have the iPhone 4 (no reception issues with any that I've tested in Vancouver).
I would hop on the train as well, but I do not like the physical built of the captivate... If it was the i9000 or vibrant, I would have switched. I'm a sucker for Super AMOLED, I rarely use my phone outside, I always use it inside.
i would stick with x10 . i played with galaxy s today at bell . its a nice phone but the built quality is really bad and worse technical support and no flash . x10 is getting 2.1 end of month or early september so its not long of a wait. and iphone 4 is out of the question with consumer report rated it *dont buy it* u cant do much with it even u jailbreak it there there is alot of restrictions n stuff u cant do and android os u can customize the sh**t of out it . i did a test on iphone 4 and my x10 and x10 loads quicker and faster . even i was soo frustrated about to sell it. but u cant sell it for much so id rather keep it . the only phone i would get other then x10 would be desire . which is coming to telus august 6th
I would probably stay out of it.Checking out the forums. It drops a lot of calls and has some major GPS and lag issues. Of course, if you want to go by numbers you should go for the Captivate given it has a higher version of the OS installed. I have used the i9000 though and except for the screen, which is gorgeous, there isnt much there.oh and touchwiz looks like it has been ported from a funskool toy.
i had a samsung pixon12, build quality was cheap, and that phone stopped working after a month even after it was brand new, samsung didnt help me at all and i had to pay extra money from the store i bought it from in order to get it repaired. after that i never went back to samsung and i dont think i will.
the x10 is nice but u are right it does have its share of problems. if ur gonna switch u might as well make a proper upgrade and go for the EVO 4G or the soon to come out Dell Streak (5 inch screen!!/1ghz processor [ also runs 1.6 but soon to get an update supposedly])
anyways im gonna stick with my x10 for now until i can get a good price on the dell streak becuase i use my phone a lot for entertainment due to commuting to university, so a 5 inch screen would do me a lot of good
i dont reccomend samsung. HTC is fantastic though ive used the TOUCH HD/touch pro 2/HD2 and was very happy with them. but hated windows mobile. dont know about dell but if i make the switch ill come back here and let u guys know how that worked out lol
hope it helps u figure out where u wanna head.
Well, this is a thread about Canadian users, so the Evo 4G is out of the question, and the iPhone 4's "reception issue" is not a problem here, at least in Vancouver.
Also, as much as the Streak intrigues me, it is basically the same hardware and software as the X10 (1.6 but without lovely Rachel), and I'm not sure it has a TRUE multi-touch panel like the Droid Incredible either.
I've yet to play with the Galaxy S, but if it is as terribly built as some of you say, then the only other viable option is the Desire, which is put together like a tank and has LED flash. Its design is pedestrian, but the thing is SOLID.
Still tho the desire is not an improve ment over the x10. Think about it smaller screen, ****ter camera, ugly at front of x10 and screen issues like pink tint, burn ins and broken dualtouch, only thing better at the moment is software and a little more ram. I dont know why people think this way, you probably dont have your x10 set up right so that you think this way, I will probably make a video of mine and show everyone how fast,smooth and beautiful it runs I just have a feeling some people dont know how to use adw right and make the best out of their phone. I mean if your ready to switch your x10 for a desire there must be somthing wrong, In matter of fact there is a lot of people here that have switched from desire to x10 ask them why they switched.
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Those screen issues affect the SLCD model? I wasn't aware of that.
Just because the screen is smaller, it doesn't make it worse since the resolutions are nearly identical.
I like the Desire because of its very solid build (have you held one?), extra RAM, and best of all, latest Android builds with HTC Sense.
That being said, the Desire is far more expensive if purchased from unauthorized dealers.
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Those screen issues affect the SLCD model? I wasn't aware of that.
Just because the screen is smaller, it doesn't make it worse since the resolutions are nearly identical.
I like the Desire because of its very solid build (have you held one?), extra RAM, and best of all, latest Android builds with HTC Sense.
That being said, the Desire is far more expensive if purchased from unauthorized dealers.
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Most likely not the one with the SLCD but still explain how is it an improvement over the x10. Just the little more ram? Or the software that we will have soon?
I still wondering why people that would like to switch from X10 to another phone, post their suffer of having X10 here. You want change then go change, no need for second opinion from us.
I buy X10 knowing its Android 1.6, know that update will takes months to come. But i buy because i like Timescape and Mediascape, which is the main selling point to X10.
At my office, i have a lot of android phone for development test phone, i have HTC Dream, LG GW 620, Nexus One, Motorola DEXT/CLIQ, Samsung Galaxy Spica and my Sony Ericsson X10. I can say some of strong point of X10 compared to the other android in list.
Prebuilt media player is nice, compared to Nexus One basic player
The phonebook looks very nice, i like the full hi-res photo in the phonebook Timescape, plus seeing the photo when some one calling or we make call
Watching video while riding public transport in 16 : 9 screen resolution, without letterbox (most of movie i watched in phone is in HD ratio)
It comes with WMV, WMA playing capability
Timecape make me easier to read multiple one or two line SMS from my friends
Slick design of web-browser compared to other phone basic browser
Great product support (except for the firmware updates) from SE, like the PlayNow, i buy some songs with it, and also TrackID.
Stuff that is missing, but can still live without it
No multiple Gmail account can be set in the phone Gmail app (love the threaded view of gmail
Picasa and Facebook photo is not cache in the phone, have to download them everytime you want to see (this decision is made, because if the all photos is prefetched, people living in country with expensive GPRS will get mad, i know because i working in mobile sector)
No multitouch, but this i can live nicely without it
No Facebook and Phonebook photo autosync like Nexus One
So that is some of my opinion of why i choose X10, i guess some of us would think the same.
One think that i bit disappointed with X10 is that first when their haven't release, i though there will be a front facing camera, a lot of website says will have one. Which turnout to be Light Sensor or Proximity Sensor. hahaha.
But can live without it anyway, even though i like making 3g video call with my GF.
Got a chance to play with Bells Vibrant. Its nice. Its really nice actually. The screen is amazing. Its easily better than the x10's. Its very light. Didnt feel cheap to me, just insanely light. I guess to some that means cheap. The ui is too iphone like to me. But I guess we can always change that. I like the front facing camera on it, we all know this will start being used now that apple has told everyone they should use it. Also like the tvout function. Im definetely tempted to get it.
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Still tho the desire is not an improve ment over the x10. Think about it smaller screen, ****ter camera, ugly at front of x10 and screen issues like pink tint, burn ins and broken dualtouch, only thing better at the moment is software and a little more ram. I dont know why people think this way, you probably dont have your x10 set up right so that you think this way, I will probably make a video of mine and show everyone how fast,smooth and beautiful it runs I just have a feeling some people dont know how to use adw right and make the best out of their phone. I mean if your ready to switch your x10 for a desire there must be somthing wrong, In matter of fact there is a lot of people here that have switched from desire to x10 ask them why they switched.
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Mind telling me how you set up your adw? Thanks
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The Captivate is a nice phone, the best of the Galaxy S versions, it steals its looks from the X10 I would say, but I would never give up the X10's screen and camera. AMOLED? No thanks, HTC is finally abandoning those screens. Plus we're getting 2.1 the next month at the latest, and from what I know we can expect further upgrades fairly soon after.
As an aside I don't use the built in Gmail app, I find the web version is much better, is the Gmail app on 2.1 better then the one in 1.6?
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Most likely not the one with the SLCD but still explain how is it an improvement over the x10. Just the little more ram? Or the software that we will have soon?
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It's in the software, man I like HTC Sense. Rachel is nice, but not with 1.6. The Desire should get 2.2 by the time that we get 2.1. Bear in mind, I have no "desire" to sell my X10 for a Desire, but I do admire its build. It feels REALLY solid.
I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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yes there are issues with X10 now but you can wait until update, at present it has 1.6 android which is out of date buit soon sony Xperia X10 is getting 2.1
you should wait until then and if you can not wait then its better to go for motorola droid x or desire they both are good phones with good screens, multitouch ( for games etc ) and good call volumes latest android
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I have fallen in love with the X10 since it was leaked last year. Its the only phone I think the ui is sexy. I have a mytouch slide I like it but wouldn't mind an X10 for a while. I have dug thru the forums for this phone and I see it has some issues and I don't see any roms for it yet. Since I'm on tmo usa I will have to wait for a unlocked phone to come about. My questions are:
how is the performance?
Are there really that many issues or are a few select people having problems?
And are there any devs on working on this phone?
I know the update to 2.1 is taking awhile cause the ui and I don't expect sony to give it froyo but maybe some dev will. Thanks guys.
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Frankly speaking X10 is not as good as it was 2 months back........back then there were no option,now you have better alternatives.....starting with Galaxy s,Droid 2 ,Droid X and whole lot lot of bunch
P.S If you really want to stand out from the crowd get a White X10
Every phone with its weakness, X10 with low call volume(ok for me),1.6 OS, no MT(not needed for me),but the others have their issue too just like the Samsung Galaxy with the GPS signal(losing it).
So if you can live with the X10's so called ''problems'' it is a great device,if not then buy something else.
Can't say the other phone doesn't have issue either.
everything have feature that other phone doesn't. I personally don't see xperia 10 is behind on other phones because it is using a personalized android 1.6 vs 2.2 which have nothing desirable for me.
the 3 major feature you will miss are
720 recording - which i am sure you can live without it.
16 million colour - once again, my eyes can't tell the differences. that well to even brother.
flash - xperia 10 can watch flash enable media ( can watch flash movie @ tudou.com) but can't use them (as menu or web content) with skyfire.
i have no idea why that akshay insist it have low call volumne, i think his phone is busted or he got 1 of those millionth faulty one. I personally have no problem calling out or hearing people talks on my phone unless i am in an heavy noisy area that i can't even hear someone shout @ 1M away.
There are app that can hack your speaker i think if you rooted on the market.
Mind you, if you compare the latest phone you will only found them having
1. 2.1 or 2.2 soon
2. a front camera for video conference, (i live in canada, no one use smart phone with front camera here)
3. larger screen by 0.1 inch
4. 16 million color but worser camera.
5. If you didn't know 90% of those phone can't use under bright sun, but guess what, Xperia 10 CAN.
6. they are all "black", but mine is WHITE and have great design http://seinsider.com/?p=2525 If i will find a way to get one of those later and show off.
7. I like sony, i like having a sony brivia x2, sony ps3, a sony BR, a sony dog, and ...no i don't like sony laptops.
If you are like me that like the design and the white X10 when I first saw the pics of it last November, then I say, go for it. When it came out of the market last March, I said to myself, I'll wait for it to get the latest Android 2.1 and buy it. Big Mistake! I was not satisfied with the other phone that I bought, so after three months of using that phone, I got bored with it, and finally bought X10. Now, I'm using the X10 only, and only once in a while, use the other one. I can never be happier...
Thanks for all the replies. Glad to see people are happy with the phone. 1.6 is not a deal breaker for me. And yes if I buy one definitely the white one has my eye. I can careless for froyo cause I had froyo on my mytouch slide. Nothing I won't miss. I think I will head to a at&t store and play with one. Thanks for the link awesome shells. Anymore thoughts are welcomed.
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I have the White X10i, its been great for me so far! The battery life is really good, the camera is awesome and the interface is a pleasure to use!
In regards to the 2.1 update that we are all longing after so much, the only thing I would really embrace with open arms is the ability to record video in 720p!.
just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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just fyi in case you missed it, the X10i has 3G banding for T-Mobile, and the X10a has the banding for AT&T. Also I thought AT&T is only selling the black version? So from what I understand you want, you should buy an unlocked white X10i off the net.
X10 is great, best looking phone on the market and best camera in an Android phone. Screen resolution is awesome, videos etc are not as vibrant as AMOLED or Super AMOLED screen sure, but text is sharper and being usable in sunlight is a huge plus. For Canadians I think it's the best overall Android option still, you guys have a lot more choices down south and I can't say the same. Froyo is huge regardless of your experience, SE has done a lot to make 1.6 good, but it's shoddy customization isn't enough at this point in the game compared to all the 2.2 offerings on the market now.
If I were you I would wait a few more weeks until you know what that big HSPA+ device for T-Mo is before making any big purchases
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I remember a X10 passing thru with tmo bands last year but never of it again. Thanks for the info. From the articles I have read the HSPA+ device is probably gonna be the mytouch hd. Ill pass on that. But I will do research the X10I. Thanks again.
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How much storage space is there for apps?
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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500mb or 1 GB i think, but the canadian version all came with a 16gb SD micro. I don't really have many large apps beside co-pilot with 3 gb maps.
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X10I has 384mb ram from one source I have read. My slide has 512mb ram and only 145mb partitioned for apps.
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He never asked about the ram.
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He never asked about the ram.
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How do u like ur x10i?
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I love mine -it's the dogs cogs.. There's 1Gb of Memory but it's use is restricted by Android 1.6.. so at the moment it's using... Download Cache - 111Mb; Data - 465Mb; RAM - 268Mb. (reading directly from Android System Info app)
Youre better off buying an unlock iphone or waits for the sony ericsson psp2 because the x10 is rather slow and no brand name app.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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With gadgetry it's unpossible to form an opinion just by reading specs and reviews. When you look at the specs of the X10 it's a good phone, when you look at the software versions it's a poor phone. But the most important part, the feel, you'll have to find out yourself.
When I replaced my iPhone with my X10 I was a "smart shopper" and tried out many different devices, usually I just grab what looks cool. My favourites were the X10, Touch HD2 (I know, but I liked the hardware) and the Desire. The Touch HD2 fell out of the running pretty quickly since it runs WinMo and I wanted Android.
The Desire is a really nice phone, it's got good hardware and it runs Android but it had a few problems. First off the screen is pretty poor. The colours are great but it's way too fuzzy for my taste. The general solidity, or feel, was also pretty bad. It's feels too plastic and cheap for my taste.
The X10 felt slightly sluggish and bogged down, but since it's software I figured I could fix that pretty easily which I did. The Android version worried me at first but some investigation turned up that the differences between this custom 1.6 and the HTC version of 2.0 were pretty minimal. In the end I went for the X10 because it has a way better screen, it has a more solid feel to it and a pretty nice camera.
This was a few months ago but no new phones have really caught my eye, most look too non-descript or iPhone-like for my taste.
There's my reasoning, hope it helps.
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Thank u for the reply. I think the difference between 1.6 and 2.0 isn't a big deal to me either. I have 2.1 now but don't Ming having 1.6 again. Now that I know there is one with tmo bands and I can still get 3g makes me want the phone more.
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I had it and it wasn't that great, should wait for the bootloader to become unlocked.
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So i had both phones running on same network (Bell Mobility). Here's what i noticed.
1) GPS stayed accurate EVERYTIME on Atrix. Locked almost immediately (like 2 seconds). GPS accuracy ranged fom 4.9 to 6.1 ft. (basically perfect). It could even track which room of my house I was in using Google maps. GPS on i9000 sucks.
2) Atrix had better reception overall. It actually worked in places my i9000 would not work.
3) i9000 had a WAY better screen. The blacks were pure black, where on the atrix they were dark grayish. Colors way more vibrant on the i9000.
4) Surprisingly, the browser speeds were very similar (and atrix is duo core). I did many tests opening different websites at the same time...many times it was almost exactly the same, other times the i9000 was a bit faster, and sometimes the atrix was faster. i would call it a draw...and if i HAD to choose, i would say i9000 for speed (very very barely)
5) Samsung's software destroyed motoblur on the atrix. Just looked better, and WAY more convenient (example...when we pull down the main screen we can turn off/on gps, wifi, silent etc...cant on atrix). I did not really like motoblur too much, but perhaps I could get used to it and like it?
6) The phone Speaker sounds better on the i9000. Atrix is louder, but muffled on full blast)
Overall...the only things I think were better on the atrix was reception and a perfect gps. However, my work is in a dead spot for Bell...and my i9000 has full bars at almost every other place in the city. But...the atrix did work at my workplace in certain areas where the i9000 wouldn't.
Thanks for the comparison. However, were both phones stock? Rooted? Please provide some more details if possible.
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I've played for a couple of hours with my friends stock Atrix an then rooted, sorry can't remember witch ROM, it was very fast good build quality but like you said the screen is not even as clear and good looking as on SGS and the motoblur is rubbish.
i have to add something to this, i have an atrix and got me a cheap galaxy s to play on with custom roms. The Colors on the galaxy are all slightly blueish (esp the white color), however the black is trully better on the galaxy. havent had much chances to try the other things on the galaxy tho, but for instance sygic navigation locks up the galaxy while it works perfectly on the atrix.
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Thanks for the comparison. However, were both phones stock? Rooted? Please provide some more details if possible.
Borh phones running stock...unrooted
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Dell has finally released Mango for AT&T handsets:
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...-coming-for-venue-pro-at-amp-t-customers.aspx
This appears to include the proper firmware support as well, at least I think it does. I can't get my AT&T DVP to get past the backup part of the update at the moment
Of course this would happen right after I buy a Titan which is backordered by the way. I guess I get to play with the DVP until then. Now I have to really decide whether to keep titan or keep DVP.
My update is complete. Yes, there is actually two updates. As long as I'vev been waiting I'm almost wish it hadn't come. Now I'm stuck trying to figure out if I should keep Titan (bigger screen, front facing camera, better camera) or DVP (better screen, physical keyboard, more premium feel)
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If you are going to update, download fiddler and find the package urls
I have a DVP I used for months and LOVED.
I now have a Titan and don't miss anything about the DVP. I was surprised about that myself, but the Titan is *that good*.
The main problems for me on the DVP are no compass and the worst camera I've ever experienced on a premium smartphone.
The only 'negative' with the Titan is the lack of hardware keyboard, but the screen is so large that the typing experience on the software one is just fine.
I don't agree that the screen on the DVP is better.
DVP is AMOLED. Isn't the Titan basic lcd? I haven't had hands on with the device. I've also read complaints of ghosting and jaggy text.
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Titan is slcd. I like the smooth colors on the Titans slcd vs. the hot colors on the DVP. I think the slcd is more natural. Also the dvp amoled is pentile, and so suffers from fuzzy colored text. Never really bothered me, but regardless, not an issue on slcd.
Basically each screen has its plusses and minuses so in the end it's a wash.
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Well, it seems the point may be moot. My wife sold her iPhone 4, is starting to get frustrated with her HTC inspre and the generla bugginess of Android, and it seems she has designs on my Titan when it arrives. I'm trying to sell her on my DVP, but her main complaint is that it si too heavy. I hope she thinks the Titan is to big. I'm also going to find a stable rom for her inspre and root it. Her problems are the general android glitchiness, though small compared to winmo, is a whole lot more than iOS.