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How satisfied are u with X10?

i am planning to upgrade my X1 to X10...so i am on android platform
but also considering other android phones such as Milestone.
wanted to know how satisfied are u with X10 on a scale 1-10?
did u regret it at all? (unbiased answers pls)
Hows the performance compared to other phones in similar hardware class?

I have had a long list of handsets every single version of blackberry, iphone and this is my first android for about a week now and I'm really happy with it. It's a project phone to me, always finding new things with it and the apps and personalizing it are endless.
Quality of apps are not as great as the iphone but it's still a VERY new platform and getting better by the day.
Hardware wise I'm very impressed, very speedy, impressive camera quality and I'm pretty picky, 9/10 for form factor, could be rounded or something. Robust little device and I hope it's not outdated for at least 8 months.
looks 9/10
quality 8.9/10 - screen scratches easily, voice quality is great
hardware 9.9/10
overall I'd say 9.2/10 compare to an iphone of 8.9/10

i do like the phone a lot. with better software or onceroot is availible it will be worlds better.
camera is great wish it had a flash though. screen is great and big for typing.
not overly happy with battery life but after reading a few suggestions it is better.
once a firmware upgrade is out and an upgrade to a more recent version of android my mind might change more in favor of this device. right now it gets an 8 out of 10
Sent from my X10a using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

I have just upgraded from X1 to X10 and I'm very impressed with the device.
Major drawback is low volume during calls.
Pluses definitely outweigh the minuses and the snapdragon 1 GHZ is lightning quick.
My opinion is go for it, you won't be disappointed.
Don't forget we are on first gen firmware which can only improve.

Nocturnal310 said:
i am planning to upgrade my X1 to X10...so i am on android platform
but also considering other android phones such as Milestone.
wanted to know how satisfied are u with X10 on a scale 1-10?
did u regret it at all? (unbiased answers pls)
Hows the performance compared to other phones in similar hardware class?
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Ha~~ You are ask in right place,
I'm also upgrade from X1 to X10
Android is better than WM = =", Even my X1 use custom rom and faster than stock rom a 300%, but WM still lag, still ....ooxx
And My colleague have MileStone, Nexus One, Hero
But all colleagues want to get X10 when they see my X10 and play it a lot
Milestone is best for Rooted use, but slower than X10
Nexus One also have the latest firmware, rooted etc..benefit but is this really important???
Hero... actually not the same grade
I want to said X1 to X10 you can feel much better improve, actually when you jump from WM to Android you can feel it
Milestone VS X10
Outlook: I guess X10 is better but MS not bad, but MS heavy
Phone Feature: MS win, better speaker, clear and loud, also the IM volume is clear and MS have CrystalVoice, X10 speaker low, and the most important is the IM volume is very low.... MW600 is your friend = ="
Stylus: X10 win, the custom of the X10 and UI, Userfriendly is X10, But MS also can improve by Apps
Performance: slower than X10
Nexus One VS X10
Outlook: I think 99% people said X10 win
Phone Feature: I think is draw, Nexus one have Noise Cancel, but in the real world this feature seem not really good as Milestone, and the volume same as X10 still low
Performance: Faster than X10
Conclusion:
My choice is X10, even I played the Milestone and Nexus one and hero also
X10 is a very union product, you can feel this is the Sony phone, not like the MS or Nexus one, just only a Android
When you use X10, you will see many place has been modified and make the stylus in one "Sony Stylus"
Even the outlook and the UI you can see this is the phone which not like just only buy some band, and then the outlook is like a soap and UI alway HTC = ="
The Better Video Play back and the best camera on Android "like DC"
If you want to play the PHONE, you use MS or Nexus One
If you want to show up, use the PHONE, then X10
HA... when I goto street and show off the X10, many people watch my Phone, wow... what is this phone?? the outlook is very good, big screen and slim
Stylus: Still same as MS, it can root and improve the UI from apps

I too upgraded from X1 to X10, the X10 does feel 10 times better than the X1 (hence the name..?)
The reason why I picked X10 is almost the same reason why I picked X1 last year; the looks and the hardware. X1 was quite a powerhouse when snapdragon wasn't available in the market. However as you and I'd agree, X1 isn't a dream machine as we thought. The lagginess and lack of supports from SE quickly turns me off.
Picking the xperia series phone again wasn't an easy decision for me, it feels like I'm going back into the SE trap again. But I reconsider because of the improvement offered in the X10, 1Ghz, big screen, android, and still has the sexy appeal. I have been watching the phone closely for a year ever since there were leaked information on the internet, and reviews after the phone was finally out and eventually, hold my breath and clicked 'Buy Now' on eBay.
X10 is just like the X1, it isnt as impressive as the spec look like. But the difference is its more impressive than the X1, just not as exciting as you might expect. X10 will still give you the 'lag' experience especially at the animations department. To a some people the laginess is unacceptable due to the fact there is a 1Ghz cpu in the house. To me who came from X1 is acceptable because I've seen the worse.
Also believe me or not android isnt as mature as the windows mobile. There are quite a few basic functions the android lacks like task manager etc, and the dialler feels weird (press power button to reject call...?).
So if you still havent made up your mind yet, this is the factors I think you should consider
-are u a physical keyboard person? (I am, but I do not mind virtual keyboard either, I'm currently typing really slow on the phone, and without physical keyboard, u cant do 'blind typing'. I used to type my messages walking on the street without looking at the screen)
-are u a 100% sucker of graphics and animation? sure timescape looks impressive, but not an essential. And u need good looking profile pics of ur friends frm ur Facebook or twitter account to make timescape looks good. Most of my Facebook splines are showing only my friend's nose and lips due to their profile pics, makes my whole timescape look like a joke.
-can you live with android 1.6 until Q4 2010? X10 is my 1st android phone and I have not had the privilege to played with 2.1. So I'm not spoiled from the comfort of 2.1.
-can you live with single touch screen?
-do you expect the phone to perform as fluid as iPhone? IMO I have not seen other phone which can perform better than the iPhone at the animation department (HTC's Sense is pretty close). I personally do not want an iphones cause I've got an ipod touch, apple's control freak, and too many people has it.
And finally my rating! 9/10
Sorry for the long post but I hope I helped, because I have gone through the same decision making ;D

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Nocturnal310 said:
i am planning to upgrade my X1 to X10...so i am on android platform
but also considering other android phones such as Milestone.
wanted to know how satisfied are u with X10 on a scale 1-10?
did u regret it at all? (unbiased answers pls)
Hows the performance compared to other phones in similar hardware class?
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Obviously depends on what features you really care about regarding your mobile phone, but OVERALL I think HTC's Desire is hands down the best phone on the market right now. I firmly believe the X10 could be, but in all honesty it could be until November until its potential is fully realized--pending promised firmware and OS updates.
So if you want the best phone,
Right now--HTC Desire
This year--Evo 4G, Samsung Galaxy S, maybe X10!
Satisfaction -- 7/10 X10 Overall -- 8.5/10
Some regret yes -- high cost, questionable updates from SE, poor battery life
X10's performance is not up to N1 or Desire, but other features and potential is why I bought it.

raundown said:
I too upgraded from X1 to X10, the X10 does feel 10 times better than the X1 (hence the name..?)
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Lol yeah, its 10 times better than mine which I stopped using after a few months, went back to my P1. I gave my X1 to my nephew in Srilanka and he loves it.
raundown said:
(press power button to reject call...?). ;D
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Ah thats why some callers are gone when I try to get my phone from back jean pocket
Veeeeeery happy thank you !! From what I was using (P1) 10/10 (what doesnt have a couple of niggles anyway ??)

Very, 9.5/10

Pretty damn satisfied, 8.5/10 (but I'm very difficult to satisfy)
Pros: too many to list, it really is an awesome device.
Cons: while I understand SE's philosophy behind the slow software releases, it doesn't make up for how SLOW they are at releasing them: 6+ months for an update to be customised & tested by them is unacceptable for a top-end device. In all honesty I've found no major issues to WANT the software update, but there are enough to make it a desirable thing to happen.
But, overall, it's a damn nice looking device and it works very well.

I'll give it 8.5 from 10.
Battery life is fine after a week or so when you stop pushing the phone limits
I mean, is a smartphone with 1Gig CPU and 4" display... you can't expect the battery to last 4 days like a dumb phone
If you use the smartphone, 12h battery is super.
If you turn everything off and use the phone (but i don't see the point) you can get 2days or more.
Design + UI, 10/10...
I don't care much about mediascape but timescape does the job.
Call volume ... i have no idea i use MW600 100% and is loud enough.
1.6 vs. 2.1 ?
2.1 will be nice but 1.6 will do it.
I was waiting for Galaxy S until after reading hundred of posts about Samsung "upgrades" i gave up.
Yes, will have a better display and divx/xvid support but Samsung has a bad habit to put new phones on market instead of supporting their old models so, pretty much you are stuck with what you buy.

I came from X1
Don´t buy a X10. Take a HTC instead. I give 2/10. I hate my X10. Poor hardware. Bad integrated hardware buttons ( bad to handle ), sad USB ( on the left????) No MT, bad Battery, POOR earspeaker quality and not loud enough, NO Sence.
What i hate most:
The Dialer
The Phonebook
The Call Log
The "Back" Hardware Button. Bad to reach. Need always to keep atention the X10 is not falling out of my hand. Why 3 or 4 hardware buttons? what did Google think when they did Android???? I hate also the iphone BUT there you have everywhere a "back" tab.
Instead of building TS and MS, SE should make a better usable interface like HTC ( Dialer..../ Sense) and EVERYWHERE a "Back/Cancel" tab.
AND i cant stand with the "select text" method in Android. That is bull****. Why not make it like it is on every computer ( and WM): wipe with your finger and the long press on the selected text and choose between cut, copy.....
i am thinking to change my X10 to a HD2 BUT THIS has no trackball
the perfect phone has a Trackball/ DPAD and maybe(!) two (good to handle) hardware buttons: Dial and Dial end/cancel
but there is no such phone on the market....
of course thats just my opinion ( but there are only 2: my opinion and the wrong opinion )
the last 4 weeks i made a list what i love on my X10 and what i hate: 2 things i love, 43 i hate. The list is a 17(!!!!) pages long word document and every page is FULL. The list took me about 50-70 hours, NO CHOKE!!!! I would post it here but its in german and to translate it would cost me again lots of hours.....

Best phone I have ever owned and I have owned the following phones in the last year:
iphone 3G
HTC Magic
HTC Hero
Nokia N900
People talk about lag but I have seen none. Best battery life of the bunch, too.

instigator008 said:
Best phone I have ever owned and I have owned the following phones in the last year:
iphone 3G
HTC Magic
HTC Hero
Nokia N900
People talk about lag but I have seen none. Best battery life of the bunch, too.
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iphone 3G - i understand THAT!!!
HTC Magic - ? i think its much better than the X10
HTC Hero - ? i think its much better than the X10
Nokia N900 - i dont know this phone

I'm happy with it I went form the X1 to the X10 and have been a Windows Mobile fan for years. It's taking some getting used to but i'm getting there.
Battery life was a pain until I disabled Timescape and several other services.

well i would say i was very frustrating, waited for so long since the phone advertise, here in DUBAI we don't have marketplace inside the package but you can see the box there is marketplace icon weird!!!!!!!!!!!... the only thing that you can enjoy your android is to get some useful apps in the marketplace.... yet there is a word "debranding"and some of frnds manage to debrand there androids in UK version and they have this apps could MARKETPLACE..... but i want my phone to be a virgin as new with out debranding it!!!
rate 5 out of 10....

i only miss multitouch as i upgraded from hd2 which has very good multitouch ,i now returned to hd2 as my primary phone ,as i also hate android 1.6 i give it (4 out of 10) and hd2 (8 out of 10 )

My previous phone was iphone 3G, but with android phone I´m very satisfied!
Look 9/10
Functions 8/10 (missing camera flash, and divx support and a little MT)
Overall 8,5/10
Cons: low call volume (but I have MW600 and with it its great), for that price X10 can have stereo speakers, speed of releasing future updates (hope that SE will release updates faster... 2.1 in Q4 2010 wtf ??!)

HD2 vs Galaxy S - Which would you take?

Short version here is that I already have a HD2 and currently playing with the Android builds that are available.
Now I've just been given a Samsung Galaxy S with an upgrade (get it in 2 days) and I must admit as much as I'd like to keep it, there's a part of me that thinks that the HD2 is the better phone, especially as it looks like we are going to have a stable droid build in the near future (devs really are top folk).
So, take the phone built for droid or stick with what I have and hope droid gets perfected on it in the near future?
Opinions welcome

todd69 said:
Short version here is that I already have a HD2 and currently playing with the Android builds that are available.
Now I've just been given a Samsung Galaxy S with an upgrade (get it in 2 days) and I must admit as much as I'd like to keep it, there's a part of me that thinks that the HD2 is the better phone, especially as it looks like we are going to have a stable droid build in the near future (devs really are top folk).
So, take the phone built for droid or stick with what I have and hope droid gets perfected on it in the near future?
Opinions welcome
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It's hard to say. It really depends what OS you favor. If you like WM (as a backup) and Android (albeit buggy and laggy) on the same phone, take the HD2. If you want Android to be the primary OS, take the Galaxy S.
Keep in mind the Android port won't be perfect (at least for a while). For example, the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) port has been going on longer than the HD2 port, and it still has many bugs and features that do not work.
If you really want both devices, why not keep both and alternate phones each week?
I'm personally not ready to switch to Android as a full-time OS on a phone. WM has a lot of tweakability inside and Android still has its time to mature.

See where you are coming from and if I can get away with it may just sneak the samsung away
I've always like WM over the years and love the tweaking abilities with it, I think I'm just a bit tired of it on the HD2 as IMO you still need a stylus when you get past the front end, well I do with my big chubby fingers LOL
Android is nice, had a Nexus One when they first came out but found the camera and a few other things lacking so sold it pretty quick.
To many toys and not enough time I suppose LOL

Well, atm it's very hard to say. As I own a HD2 and like it still very much, I'm not planning to buy a new toy within the next, let's say 3 months. After that I will definitely buy an Android-phone because WP7 sucks already D) and the HD2 will stay THE WM6.5.x-phone - maybe forever.
If I had to buy an Android-phone tomorrow, I'd buy a Galaxy S (Pro) - but I think I would sell it again for the next Android-flagship by HTC, what ever it will be.

if you like to have a faster gpu than go for the galaxy S because it has the fastest gpu units of all smartphones today

Personally I am biased towards android. If it werent for the 4.3 inch display of the hd2 I would have dumped it long ago. Windows mobile is so mature that At the end of this year windows phone 7 is coming out. People have all but stopped developing stuff for it. It still has a great community in xda but frankly windows mobile interface sucks. Maybe I'm a dunce but I could never find proper twitter widgets.
Android isnt perfect on the hd2 and may never be. But lets see I think bluetooth and the camcorder mode doesnt work. Also call quality may be lacking. All things I Can deal with.
Personally Ive seen the samsung captivate which I believe is the At&t variant and I love it. Save yourself and stick which the phone thats native android.

I played with AT&T's version at the store. I don't like Samsung's UI much, but the screen rocks. I didn't notice the screen size difference much.
Deal breaker for me is actually the charging port. It's microUSB with a slick slide cover, BUT THEY PUT IT ON THE TOP OF THE PHONE!!! What engineer thought that was a good idea?
If the Android port weren't going so well and if weren't for the dumb port placement, I'd be on the Galaxy S series now.

hd2 vs galaxy s
hi all, just to give my input on the subject...
First of all HD2 is the only device that is capable of running both WM and Android.
I got the galaxy for my wife, and am not impressed, here is why:
1. build quality sucks, it feels flimzy, all plastic with no substance.
2. doesn't sink with Samsung software
3. Samsung support sucks.
4. android is not the latest build (apparently it will get upgraded)
5. with original ROM it is slow and chunky.
6. GPS has issues.
7. UI looks like certain fruty devices available in black or white...
I have HD2 with many twins, Energy ROM, and also running Android as a second boot.
Android runs smooth with minor issues: no GPS, BT,and not very loud. Camcorder works fine with third party app. so does flashlight. For those worring about Windows needing a stylus, well how often do you see the original UI? plus what version r u running? HD2 is in my opinion the best of both worlds and the best phone to by. it is definitely for people with some comp knoledge rather than the push the button mentality.

I'm sticking with winmo until WP7 matures a little.
Yes WinMo is approaching the end of its cycle, but since it is, most anything you could think you want is available.
Just installed a PSX emulator and am playing Final Fantasy 7 right now.
I can watch just about any type of video.
More music options than I can count.
I guess for me, the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality applies.

well after 24hrs with the Galaxy, the HD2 is going
Tough choice as I love playing with these new droid builds coming out, they really are great but after spending the day with a full blown droid phone, god it's fast, seems a lot faster than the Nexus One I had, weird!
No issues with satnav for me and UI suits me fine.
I'll be sad to finally say goodbye to WM, it's been a gadget lovers delight over the years
Thanks for the input all

If its an upgrade why cant you have both?
Ive never had to give back my old phone when I got an upgrade.......
I was looking forward to having a shiny new android beast to sit next to my HD2 when the time comes.......you've got me worried now.
If T Mobile think they're gonna take my HD2 away they've got another thing coming.......

LOL, no don't have to give the phone back but would rather sell it than have it sitting in the spare drawer.

Eh, with the HD2 in a month or two I think its Android build will have the same performance as the Nexus One and similar phones. Plus, it will be the only 4.3 inch screen phone on T-mobile with Android.
Yeah, the Galaxy still has a better GPU, but I have never played a single 3D game on my HD2 really. Probably because it has no amazing 3D games but...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7500539#post7500539

Definitely Galaxy S! I Have HD2 for 6 months now and I've already flashed the device like 212109863489458 times (lol) and it' s getting annoying i have to flash my device every 2 weeks because of bugs. I don' t think that' s the case with android + The hummingbird processor beats snapdragon. I've seen benchmarks which shows an unreleased new HTC phone (everybody speculating about dual core snapdragon) saying that it' s a super fast new HTC. And guess what... The Galaxy S even beats that one in benchmarks... Don' t get me wrong I love my [email protected], best phone I' ve ever had to this date, but the combination Hummingbird and android (soon 2.2) is a better choice I think.. Hope this helps.

galaxy s doesnt even have a flash ! lol! gay phone !

Hello there!!. i am doubt on this question too. I have a hd2 from 8 months ago, and ... really, hd2 ROCKS!. but have some inconvenients like battery life, or wm6.5 and that this will not be upgradable to wm7. Given, android runs really fine but the future of this os on my hd2 makes me doubt a little.
So, what about the galaxy S battery life, gps, photo positioning, screens ...?, it will be possible to flash futures ROMS of android like Android 3.0, i´m ready to say good to WM. But for the moment, i know that on my hd2 it will be possible to flash, maybe, all futures androids roms, whatever they are.

Well I decided to sell the Galaxy S, really nice phone but I much prefer being able to pick and choose the android builds and WM roms to play with, if you like that kind of thing, stay with the HD2.
Now that I have setcpu set up on my android build the battery life is very good.
GPS on the galaxy can be a bit iffy, read the forums and you'll see lots of issues, the camera isn't as good as the HD2 and the lack of flash is a definite issue IMO.
The screen is stunning on the galaxy but the HD2 screen size makes up for this.

coolbeer1990 said:
galaxy s doesnt even have a flash ! lol! gay phone !
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Don't be so quick to judge a book by its cover.
Camera flash on the HD2 (and other devices) only work up to a certain distance -- then, the flash becomes useless as it is unable to provide enough light to illuminate the surroundings. The HD2's "night mode" is, imo, horrible; my older, cheaper camera phones had better "night mode" pictures. As seen in the photos in the link, the Galaxy S's "night mode" allows it to capture images at long distances, without flash, and the image is decent.
Its camera -- or more accurately, its camcorder-- actually has a slight advantage over the HD2's. Android OS allows the phone to capture HD videos, whereas WM has limitations that prevent the HD2 from recording in HD. I've seen some videos shot by the Galaxy S, and I have to say I'm very impressed.

That´s ok. But now, the QUESTION. Will be the Galaxy S upgradable to android 3.0?? This could be a GOOD FAVOUR POINT for this device, and if it couldnt be, sucks. Anyone know something about this?? my HD2 is right now open to all this supposed SO roms.
What the hell ... hahaha

[Q] HI! :) thinking about getting X10

Hi! I'm thinking about the X10, just wondering if anyone can offer some advice. Some background: I had HTC aria, specs aren't as high-end as other droid phones, but it worked extremely well -- email, GPS, music player, and interface was great. No issues whatsoever, except the camera wasn't so great. I cracked the screen and decided to go for the Samsung Captivate. The specs on the Captivate are great, camera is great, but basically nothing works with it: GPS takes 30 seconds to 1 minute to lock, it loses lock, email crashes, interface is nothing compared to HTC, wi-fi connects but sometimes doesn't work.... Great hardware, but everything is buggy. So I will return it and pick out another phone. Are you satisfied with the X10? what could be improved? What is great about it? I'd really appreciate it, thanks a lot.

Get a galaxy s.
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X10 is a great phone, but SE needs to step up there game! If anything, I'd suggest you go for a phone with company that has much more experience with the Android software...
ATM there are many bugs with the current android build (1.6) and it is outdated, but within the week, there should be a 2.1 update, which should definitly boost the performance of the phone.
The main thing I know many people look for is multitouch. Recently there has been some discussion on if the phone has MT or not, and a few videos showing it, but so far no one (no one publicly) has shown how to unlock the MT feature on the phone.
x10 has a beautiful big screen, but it doesnt support 16m colours
But, I don't think its a big deal.
Overall, the phone is good, but it has the potential to be so much more better; only if SE allows it, I mean...
If I could recommend a phone, I'd say the HTC Desire HD. (thing that sucks about HTC is that they always have so many phones coming out, so there's a chance it might get outdated quick).

kr3w1337 said:
Get a galaxy s.
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He already got it ?
I cracked the screen and decided to go for the Samsung Captivate.
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Anyway X10 is pretty good but I'd buy a Desire HD instead.

Think twice before you buy X10. The phone itself isn't bad, but the product is not all - support given by its manufacturer matters too - and as you can see (just hop around X10 XDA's board), SE doesn't do the job very well. I'd go for HTC.

The X10 is probably the most beautiful phone out there right now and the 2.1 update which is about to be released should give it a new lease of life... if you want to be able to root your phone for custom ROM's don't get the X10.. the 1.6 bootloader hasn't been cracked yet, and SE will no doubt have made it even harder in the 2.1 iteration..
Multitouch may be possible.. video's on you tube recently suggest it is.. but TBC!!.. 16m colours doesn't really make a great deal of difference to most.. but could be delivered in the next update (not the one that's about to be released.. the one after).
All in all it's a great bit of kit but has been held back by 1.6.

Great phone, beautify software and outdated android OS. Two months after the 2.1 update, 2.1 will be outdated and people will start complaining again.
If you care about getting the last android OS or Multitouch, don't consider this phone(and i suggest going with HTC for this matter).
Anyway i kinda like my X10. I think it's a great phone, and i also think SE have leaned the lesson and they will do their job on the next update.

The X10 is certainly not perfect. It is currently on Android 1.6 but the update to 2.1 will begin anyday now.
Now, let's compare a couple of things that, for me anyway, make the X10 standout. First, the style and build quality are outstanding. The physical buttons are also a nice plus. Second, and more importantly, the X10 is the only Android device that comes with a full end-to-end syncing solution that works with playlists and is simple to use. You only have to install MediaGo on your PC, nothing needs to be installed on the phone. This is something very lacking on other Android devices. Yes, there are third party solutions, but none of them work as well as MediaGo does (IMO).
Keeping that in mind, and that 2.1 apps will be possible within the next month, the X10 actually does have a lot to offer. Also, if GPS is important to you, the X10 has the best GPS I have ever personally tested. I work in the third floor of an office building. This floor is designed to be a storm shelter (in Florida, flooding and wind are what you protect against). It is 100% encased in cement. I can get a GPS lock inside the building. Yes, GPS lock, 3G radio and WiFi off, and I get a GPS lock. That is amazing to everyone I have shown it to.

Yes, the X10 gets a quick GPS lock everywhere.
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ive wrote on x10 pros and cons , also compared to iphone's pros and cons, there:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8859013&postcount=171
(if you want cheapest 1ghz 4" HD screen on a phone - buy x10. if you have more money, check for other phones, like htc desire, Z, HD, samsung galaxy. )

How can you recommended Galaxy S when this guy already has it (Captivate is the AT&T variant of the phone) and is looking to make the switch to another phone?

The x10 is not for you. You found faults and lost patients with possibly the best phone on the market (the galaxy S) and I understand those issues would make anyone think twice but the truth is Samsung will iron out those issues with software updates within weeks or days. SE have no plans to upgrade the x10 to 2.2 which is all kinds of bad.
Buying any other phone will at least mean you are able to enjoy more up to date apps and features that are out now rather than simply watching everyone else enjoying the innovations developers or Google them selves launch.
I'm past putting SE down, its a really simple choice to make.
There are apps currently on the market that will only work on android 2.2 and while other users with HTC Hero's enjoy at least testing out what flash is like the x10 users like myself will have to wait until we change our phone at the end of our contract or save up and buy an HTC Desire HD.
Most truths were once deemed blasphemy
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h0ruza said:
The x10 is not for you. You found faults and lost patients with possibly the best phone on the market (the galaxy S) and I understand those issues would make anyone think twice but the truth is Samsung will iron out those issues with software updates within weeks or days. SE have no plans to upgrade the x10 to 2.2 which is all kinds of bad.
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I am sorry to tell you but I did exactly that. I had a Captivate for 28 days. The faulty GPS, and myriad of other stability issues, did not make up for the screen and GPU on the Galaxy S devices.
The GPS issue has been around for many months, with no resolution in sight. There are people with the official 2.2 and still no GPS fix. It's beginning to look like there is no fix. Also, the Galaxy S updates have been very slow too. I am fairly certain that is due, in large part, to the stupid proprietary file system Samsung chose. If you must have the latest OS, then I would suggest getting an HTC device. The Galaxy S devices are nowhere near what they should be, based solely on specs.

Well.. X10 is very good at social networking for twitter and facebook. plus browsing emails is nice and easy. Even though it had 1.6 OS but it is a very stable considering the outdated OS ( at least my X10 is ). And the INFINITY button is very usable you cannot find that in any other android, one click and all the information regarding a video, contact, picture or music is in you hands
but true, if you want the latest OS you should go with HTC Desire HD or wait for the 4G
if you want something unique in terms of UI then X10 is the one

I'm currently considering the opposite path from X10i to Galaxy S myself.
IMHO the suitability of whether you should get the X10 depends on the personality of the user. The X10 is more suited to those that are less technical and I think the Galaxy S is suitable to those who are more technically competent and know how to apply the fixes to the minor problems.
Here are the pros and cons I'm looking at for the X10 vs Galaxy S:
X10:
Pros:
Screen works in sunlight, Nice applications that come with the phone like Mediascape/BackupRestore, Physical hardware buttons (Physical buttons supposedly last longer, nice physical design, Nice camera(not great but nice)
Cons:
Awful support from Sony Ericsson, Android 1.6 (equals much less choice of applications although 2.1 is coming, we are still behind), Multitouch disabled by Sony Ericsson, no decent custom ROM from XDA (futureproofing is uncertain)
Galaxy S:
Pros:
Beautiful screen, Faster hardware, better multitouch, currently has XDA dev custom roms (means it can be more future proof)
Cons:
Screen somewhat works in Sunlight, Less awful support from Samsung, Terrible support if you're using a Galaxy S variant (You can't expect much from your carrier), phone is kind of ugly, some lag and GPS problems (You can get it fixed if you configure it properly and apply the fixes from XDA)

naplesbill said:
I am sorry to tell you but I did exactly that. I had a Captivate for 28 days. The faulty GPS, and myriad of other stability issues, did not make up for the screen and GPU on the Galaxy S devices.
The GPS issue has been around for many months, with no resolution in sight. There are people with the official 2.2 and still no GPS fix. It's beginning to look like there is no fix. Also, the Galaxy S updates have been very slow too. I am fairly certain that is due, in large part, to the stupid proprietary file system Samsung chose. If you must have the latest OS, then I would suggest getting an HTC device. The Galaxy S devices are nowhere near what they should be, based solely on specs.
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I did recall mentioning other phones than the Galaxy S but thank you for filling us in on the issues you had as I wouldn't want someone to blindly grab a Galaxy S not knowing that it possibly has an hardware issue. I had heard a few things about the GPS issue but the two geeks I work with who have Galaxy S's have bigger smiles than the two x10 owners in the office.
That said in the UK if you have hardware issues and there is a hardware revision because of this issues there are still options for you to get that revised hardware for free but I think SE have proved that if the phone OS locked down and the issues are software based your options are less.
Given the choice between GPS & multi touch I'll choose multi touch every time. I can simple look around to know where I am or get real old school and right down directions like I used to ten years ago or better still go and buy a GPS unit and connect via Bluetooth.
I might be able to buy a Wii remote to play games (which I'm going to do today) but that doesn't really replace Multi touch.
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Sent from my X10i using XDA App

I really don't think x10 is a good phone.
Let me say what i do like about it.
Great camera & best onboard keyboard i have used(i have big fingers).
Good sync software (PC access to files).
This is my spare phone, i got it when i resigned my contract as they don't sell HD2's here in NZ. It may be that i am really happy with windows mobile, but i just don't get android. I must say i am a business user (tool not toy).
The screen scratches (need glass not plastic)
charging port at the top? - not practical for vehicle use with holder.
ok thats my 2 cents worth

Overall feeling of the phone thus far...

Hey guys,
Can you share your overall feeling with the usage of the phone so far? I have seen O2x users complaining how badly their phone is and would like to know the general feeling of S2 users.
Thanks in advance.

....there are plenty of threads with ppl giving their opinions on this phone? Why don't you read a little more?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

Or we could leave our opinion as he asked.
I have many issues with this one but they are all related to software, and i will be applying root to my one so it does not bother me.
But i was using an iphone 4 and it isn't as smooth a transition, wifi is chewing battery, but that's really all .
But i love the freedom of the os so i will suck it up for now.

If you're considering an O2X, run, run fast and far. I had its illegitimate offspring the G2X and it was hands-down the worst phone I've ever owned. The price for it in the U.S. has dropped to "free" with new service and it's been out for only five weeks. I've only had my phone since Monday but so far I like it a lot. I (knock on wood) don't seem to be having the battery issues others are and I expect the SGS2 to get about 16 hours with moderate usage. It's been getting 11-12 with me on it constantly tinkering. Also, Samsung's already issued two updates so I'd imagine things will only get better. If you want a high-end phone the Sensation will be out soon. I think that's a more relevant comparison than anything produced by LG.

Not overly impressed with mine.
I originally came from an iphone 4, had a HTC Desire HD for a few days, til someone at work made me an offer I couldn't refuse for it.
Then I bought the S2.
As much as the S2 is a better equipped phone
i.e
Camera
Dual Core
Better Battery
AMOLED screen
I still prefer the user interface etc of the HTC
I would say try the sensation when available, but apparently its Locked for modding.
I am considering the Optimus 3D myself as the S2's are fetching more money on fleabay than I orignally paid.
All I can suggest is try before you buy if possible.

Devices ive owned in the last year.
Samsung Vibrant(Most consistently used)
HTC HD2( Love the modding)
Atrix(POS device, this made my decision easier but decent battery life)
LG G2x(Decent device, wasnt impressed)
Motorola Milestone(My favorite)
Xperia X10(decent device, great music player)
Iphone 4(my fiance phone)
I have absolutely none of the problems that other users are having. Ive had it for 2-3 weeks now. My battery life is amazing and getting through my workday plus some. My screen is very vibrant and have no issues. Size/Weight is perfect for me and device feels very sturdy. No lag whatsoever and apps run very smoothly with no crashes since owning. I can only see this device getting better with age once developement start. We have some great Devs coming to work with the sgs2.
I dont think much of iphones and I think this is the phone to beat. I like the look of sense but I think it lost alot of functionality since window mobile days. We all have to wait and see what the htc sensation has to offer. I think it will be the usual htc offering, 3steps forward 2steps back.
The only real con for alot of people is the non support for games without tegra 2 processors. But I dont care for games much(not enough time) aslong as Live Holdem Poker and angry birds work.

impressions
excitement at first then boredom now excitement again looks like this phone is going to be a ripper when all the guru's start to work on it----roms themes etc etc

Besides the GPS, data, screen and battery issues, this thing rocks!

FishTaco said:
Besides the GPS, data, screen and battery issues, this thing rocks!
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Let's play a game. I'll go first. Assuming there are at least a hundred thousand SGS2's in the wild already, what percentage do you think have the problems you indicated?
GPS - My guess is <10% and the cause has still not been isolated and isn't consistent
Data - My guess is <15% with an unknown amount attributed to specific carrier, SIM, or router issues
Screen - My guess is <2%
Battery - <25% and again, some people are getting appropriate performance for an Amoled dual-core phone meaning it's not a universal problem
The first three work great for me and battery seems OK so far but I want to use the phone normally (instead of constantly playing with it) before declaring victory.
P.S. - I see in the Sensation vs. SGS2 thread you're getting a Sensation. Let's see what the front page of the Sensation board looks like three weeks after launch. Especially considering it'll be loaded with T-Mobile crapware and specific changes they've demanded of HTC. I hope for both T-Mobile and its customers that the launch goes better than the G2X launch.

BarryH_GEG said:
Let's play a game. I'll go first. Assuming there are at least a hundred thousand SGS2's in the wild already, what percentage do you think have the problems you indicated?
GPS - My guess is <10% and the cause has still not been isolated and isn't consistent
Data - My guess is <15% with an unknown amount attributed to specific carrier, SIM, or router issues
Screen - My guess is <2%
Battery - <25% and again, some people are getting appropriate performance for an Amoled dual-core phone meaning it's not a universal problem
The first three work great for me and battery seems OK so far but I want to use the phone normally (instead of constantly playing with it) before declaring victory.
P.S. - I see in the Sensation vs. SGS2 thread you're getting a Sensation. Let's see what the front page of the Sensation board looks like three weeks after launch. Especially considering it'll be loaded with T-Mobile crapware and specific changes they've demanded of HTC. I hope for both T-Mobile and its customers that the launch goes better than the G2X launch.
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I am lost, whose side are you on??
You claim that between 24.999% and 51.999% of all SGS2 have some kind of a problem?

The SGS2 is going to be the HD2 of 2009.
It's the first phone out with all the top specs that from now, will set the standard.
HTC do NOT have amoled or a 1.2ghz dual core cpu.
I have been a big fan of HTC since I had the XDA EXEC. But sadly HTC have not done anything that great recently. I am also not a fan of the htc Sense.
I have used the HD2 for the past two years and this was my introduction to android too.
the SGS2 is my first native android device and, Whilst I didnt like touchwiz that much at first (Has a very much Iphone-esk feel to it) I have soon learnt how to get around it, and how to use the different connectivity modes (Kies 2.0/Kies air etc)
This phone is outstanding, And Samsung have done them selves proud.
The general feel of the phone makes you think its a cheap dummy phone. Its all plastic and SOOO light, It only seems to weigh as much as the battery does.
The screen is just brilliant, Great colours and amazing blacks, When the screen is black it blends so well with the screen bezel that it looks like there is no screen. If you have a few icons against a black screen, It looks like they are stickers planted on - It's that good!!!
I have a friend who is a big Apple Iphone fan, He has just come from the Iphone 4 and really loves it for how smooth and responsive it is. He did say he wished there was more pixles and he also seems to have an issue with how fast the battery dies - But he uses the phone purely for the internet, generally watching tons of flash in desktop mode. It runs as well as a PC, it's that good!
This forum is picking up fast and quite frankly I cant wait to see what roms come about, this phone is future proof and blows every other phone out of the water. Try running an N64 emulator with 0 frame skip - It's flawless. Try that on a Desire HD, It's laggy really bad. The dual core really comes into its own here.
Amazing phone, Amazing screen, Similar battery consumption as a HD2, Great UI when you get used to it and great connectivity for getting your files off your phone. Oh, And 16GB internal memory!... Wow!

Amazing phone so far. Battery life is good eniugh to get me through a day and loving the fact samsung pre installed 'my files' and 'downloads'. I do like the touchwiz app drawer a lot because of folders and horizontal scrolling. The only thing i would want on this phone would be the ability to set default homescreen on TW. Or someone could make a sense 3.0 ROM?
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Thanks for your inputs guys. I certainly have a better idea of whether to get this phone or the nexus s. Battery life is a very big factor to my phone criteria.
Thanks once again.

Buying Omnia 7?

Dear users,
Im doubting between an Omnia 7 and an HTC HD7.
Today I visited the Omnia 7 forum for the first time, but I can see that there are a lot of complaints. So now it made me doubt between the omnia 7 and the hd7.
What is your advice, should I buy the Omnia 7(it is much cheaper) or the hd7?
Thanks!
BTW: I'm currently using an AT&T Samsung Captivate, which is being repaired at the moment. I'm done with Android, that is why I want a Windows Phone.

Hi,
A few months ago I loved this phone and would have reccomended it. I've now had it a year, my sister has one too. However as you can see by a post I started the other day over time it's developing more and more problems.
These are not WP7 problems... i'd say they are related to the Samsung firmware aspect.
I love the WP7 platform, my next phone will definitely be WP7. However I will more than likely go for a Nokia. Is the Lumia not an option for you?
My personal opinion is that i could not reccomend this model to anyone. If I was offered a replacement for a HD7 now i'd take it.
Sorry to sound negative, there are many people here who are pefectly happy with theirs. I may just be unlucky with mine.

Well, I own an Android phone right now and I want to test windows 7 myself before buying a more expensive phone. I want to use a 'cheaper' wp7 phone for like a year and then buy a phone like the HTC Titan.
The Lumia looks good,but is now way too expensive plus I want a 4.0 inch or bigger screen.

JigsterNL said:
Well, I own an Android phone right now and I want to test windows 7 myself before buying a more expensive phone. I want to use a 'cheaper' wp7 phone for like a year and then buy a phone like the HTC Titan.
The Lumia looks good,but is now way too expensive plus I want a 4.0 inch or bigger screen.
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I recommend you a samsung omnia 7.
previosly I had a HD7 for few months- but the omnia 7 are much better, faster, with best super AMOLED, good battery time and my was 200,00 €. The screen from HD7 is more grey as black. I'm very happy with my omnia7 ... Is also very good with finctions and jailbreak ...
and if 3,7" the htc mozart are a good and cheap

I just don't want to flash or do anything with the phone, just install the updates through Zune. So no modding at all

For starters, this is my opinion.
The Omnia 7 has a far better screen (AMOLED) and the battery life is better. The looks and feels of the Omnia 7 is also better than the HD7.
But if you want to spend some more bucks I would also advice to buy the Lumnia 800.

Hey there,
I can recommend you the Omnia 7. I (we) got 3 of them.
One for myself, one for my father and recently bought one for my brother.
I did not expirience any troubles till now. Samsung Omnia 7 was the best of all Windows Phones, before Nokia Lumia, HTC Titan and the rest began to appear. There have been hundrets of reviews saying the same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Omnia_7
The phone its worth its price, its even too cheap for it. 16 Gigs, a cripst Super Amoled screen, pretty good battery life, and a neat design.
When looking on the phone, it simply looks like something unique when you see the tiles flowing through your screen with the black background and the black design.
Amoled screens offer the best black color, its the darkest of them all. Also the contrast, viewing angles and the brightness is better compared to S-LCD's like of the HD7.
I didn't like the HD7, it kind of feels a bit too "massive" and "cheap" I would say. In my opinion it looks like a brick.
I felt for the Omnia 7 design which is like a chocolate bar. It also fits pretty well into your hands, its not too big, not too small. Because of the curved back it is easy to hold. Also it doesn't make you think its some cheap hardware you paid a bunch of money for.
The aluminium back feels some kind of soft, if the phone was used for a while and got warm. You can warm it with your hands pretty easily within a short time.
The camera is pretty good for a phone I would say, it takes awesome pictures at daylight. In night its still well, but you can notice some edges that are not as sharp as in daylight. Still a lot better than the HD7's capabilities of recording.
In video mode, you can take videos up to 720p. It looks vivid and fast on VGA recording, but you will notice some performance loss when recording 720p. (Its also normal, same stuff on any other wp7, except 2nd generation like lumia)
The video playback (1080p movies and the recorded ones) are damn smooth.
No pixel errors, natural colors and it doesnt get stuck at all. You wont notice anything slowing down, also not at web playback like youtube videos on 1080p or megavideo ones.
I have had before a Samsung Galaxy S I9000, before I switched to HTC Mozart and then to Omnia 7.
If I it was necessary, I would buy another one of this one.
When you buy the phone, you are supplied an older version of the OS running on it. It is laggy and simply said sucks. Later you receive the NoDo update providing a huge boost in performance. The last update you receive will be the Mango one as you know, it changes the whole phone and it cannot be compared anymore to the ones running older versions of WP. It will get very fast.
I compared mine with carried supplied OS (older than NoDo), with the NoDo one of my father, and my own one with 7720 (now 7740). You can notice big differences.
I spent a bunch of time writing this, so others can also read this.
I cant complain about this phone after 1 year of usage and recommend it to everyone. You wont find another phone this good for 200 bucks.
Hardware is fine, Quality is fine, Screen is fine. Doesnt feel cheap and comes with pretty good Headphones.

If you want an experiment, sure go for it. If not go for one of the new models, Nokia Lumia 800 would be my best advise. It has superior build quality and a good screen. Nokia is also known for good support and quick updates and fixes.

Thank you guys (and thanks for the long review) I'm going to overthink this now more serious.

I'll will also recommend to buy Nokia, if you can.
Samsung Omnia 7 is very good device.
I have mine for nearly a month and already two accident drops - one from nearly 1 m on it's screen, no scratch or anything problem after that

If I buy a new phone I would rather buy an HTC Titan than a lumia

Well it depends what you want.
If you want to save some money and still get the best of the first generation, pick the Omnia 7.
Else if you got a big bank next to you, take as stated before either the Lumia or the Titan.
Titan offers a bigger screen, while Nokia has a smaller and better one.
The Lumia looks better and has exclusive apps. Later also Nokia exclusive games will follow. You do even get a 50 bucks gift card to buy apps.
So yeah its up to you.

Are you guys all some kind of Nokia supporters

I'd say Windows Phone 7 in general and Samsung Omnia 7 specially is not where you can play a lot ... so if you want to get a phone that calls and runs only few apps and that's it, then go for it, otherwise if you want to experience with it, then this is not the right choice.
as I understood from what you earlier wrote, I guess you already made your choice and you'll go for Omnia 7.
enjoy it bro

JigsterNL said:
Well, I own an Android phone right now and I want to test windows 7 myself before buying a more expensive phone. I want to use a 'cheaper' wp7 phone for like a year and then buy a phone like the HTC Titan.
The Lumia looks good,but is now way too expensive plus I want a 4.0 inch or bigger screen.
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lol you sound just like me! I have an HTC Desire HD and it's currently off for repairs too. I've been curious about WinPho 7 for a while and the Microsoft demo site for it, despite being really limited, impressed me. I've got an Omnia 7 coming to me on Wednesday. I'll post my thoughts as an Android user when I get it up and running. This will also be my first Samsung phone so that's another first for me to experience but I am looking forward to it, especially that gorgeous screen!

I've had a few days to play with the phone now and overall it's pretty solid. The screen on the Samsung is gorgeous with black areas looking like there's no screen on at all instead of the muddy, dark grey on my Desire HD.
The UI is simple to use, transitions are quick and apps load quickly enough like the DHD. Unfortunately there are still limited amounts of apps with it looking like there are far more paid than free apps in comparison to Android. Sadly I'm also noticing a lack of apps that I would normally use with a few exceptions. A few apps I have like Shazam Encore is being charged at £3.99 on the WinPho 7 Marketplace but far less on the Android Market. I can't say what it normally costs currently as it's on sale for 10p. The main apps you might use like Twitter, Facebore ... sorry Facebook and YouTube are available and the UI is the same throughout each so you always know how to find items. A bonus that seems to be applicable to all apps is that they have a "Try" option. They might be limited in some way or have ads displayed. If you like it you can "Buy" it, and it'll unlock or remove ads. Similar to Android offering refunds but with this I don't think there are limits on trials unless they're displayed in the description.
You can sync photos to SkyDrive when they're taken or choose to upload them manually but there's no Dropbox app available currently. The easiest way I found to get images on the phone for use as wallpapers (lockscreen and photo hub background) was to create a folder on my PC, drop the images in and sync it.
Auto-rotate..... oh boy do I hate this. Auto-rotate is always on and there's no toggle option to turn it off. Why is it an issue? I use my phone in bed to check a few things like Twitter or if I get a text message and after unlocking it and loading the app it'll flip to landscape unless I sit up. Small annoyance but one Android lets you toggle. It's quick enough to rotate and it might not annoy others but that's my thought on it.
Background updates are something I was curious about since it wasn't allowed outside a few apps at launch but has supposedly been allowed more widely in Mango / 7.5 and that may be true but finding apps that take advantage of it isn't easy. Mango apps can use live tiles that update in the background but unless you know an app can do it you'd normally end up looking through each one to find it mentioned. There is an app that will help you do it called AppFlow but if you didn't know that you'd be stuck. I'd like to say that the apps I have with live tiles enabled work flawlessly but they don't. I have a Twitter app (not the official app, that sucks just like on Android) that supposedly updates every 30 minutes or so (no option to choose) and I have not yet seen a live tile update from it even with the option selected. I may be doing something wrong, I don't know, I'm still getting used to things. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing though and if so then background updating needs work or apps need more work to make it happen.
Final thoughts are really that it seems very much like Android when I got my G1 way back when it was new which was before even Cupcake / Android 1.5 was around. It has a lot of potential, there are some great touches (keeping the UI consistent throughout and with apps is good) and even with carriers customising all they can do is add apps and maybe a theme. You can uninstall the apps (I did, take THAT Orange!) and change theme with no issues. It's similar to Android back then but with more polish overall. With updates I can only see it getting better. Basically I can see it improving and being a competitor but how long that takes I can't guess. I wouldn't give up Android for it but I'm definitely keeping an eye on it to see where it goes.
Any questions? Let me know and I'll try to answer them but otherwise those are my thoughts on Windows Phone 7.5 after using Android exclusively from release.

I am using the Omnia 7 now for one year. I am using it mainly for work (exchange, phone, look at email attachments like powerpoint, etc.) I am synching 3 mail accounts and play from time to time.
Within that year I had not only one "strange situation" with the phone like reboots or not available via phone or Bluetooth disconnects. It is very reliable.
I owned also the Mozart which was far away from the Omnia 7 (battery, display, reliability, etc.). The HD7 has a poor Display. If you are using black background and scroll through your apps you can hardly see the white writing.
I would buy it again - especially for the current price.

Omnia has a much more impressive screen. The HD7 however can use custom roms and allows for greater degree of customisation

mebula999 said:
Omnia has a much more impressive screen. The HD7 however can use custom roms and allows for greater degree of customisation
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The Omnia's screen is the most impresive I've ever seen and among the things I noticed first about the phone. I hear a lot of bad things about Samsung build quality but honestly I feel that the phone is very solidly built and this is the first Samsung phone that I've owned.
I considered the HD7 and the size appealed to me at 4.3" because that's the same as my Desire HD but the 4" Omnia isn't that bad to use. I've got 3.7", 4" and 4.3" display phones and I thought that the Omnia was going to be similar to the Milestone / Droid but that extra little size just pushes it into the right size for my hands. That's a bonus to me because I can now consider 4" and up phones in the future but it'll also make me seriously consider Samsung AND Windows Phone 7 handsets and that's not something I thought I'd say with Android 4.0 / ICS impressing me a lot.
The single biggest factor against WinPho for me is still the lack of apps for things I'd consider popular. I couldn't think of real examples before but after getting my Desire HD back I can list a few.
Dropbox
Google products (GMail integrated but no app) such as Google+, GTalk, Maps
Amazon apps (MP3, shopping)
There are more but they're more personal use items that won't apply to most people. These, however, I've missed quite a lot. It won't matter to others and there are bound to be apps I don't miss that others do. It's just a matter of time really and that makes it difficult to pick one OS over the other.