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Tried many roms. None run well

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Would help if you said what version of the Magic you have and which ROMs you've tried.

32A HTC Magic

Sure sounds like something is wrong if CyanogenMod is laggy due to it should be one of the fasts roms available. If you wipe before flashing the rom there might be a hardware problem. Or maybe you're running many applications in the background all the time which cause it to get laggy.

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I'm surprised about the CM rom. The only problems I have been having is it charging through my batteries! Have you tried a complete wipe (factory reset) then a fresh install?

I'm extremely surprised that the cyanogen and the amon_ra lag. Those are two of the fastest ROMs I've used.
Like others have said it sounds like you havent been performing full wipes before switching roms.

aotiko said:
well it's laggy even after the first reboot, before i install anything. I may just be used to the speed of things moving on the 3GS but I don't see how it could be a hardware problem. It's too new for that. It's not CRAZY laggy, they just feel like they are all betas. Everything works but it's slow.
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you're definitely doing something wrong man.

Do a full wipe and repartition your SD card if you haven't already.
How to partition SD card: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...ZEawlYwcK0P19CSFA&sig2=LDNUn9NOu9dOdWW90ipiZA

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It does seem to be a lower fps than the iphone I thought it seemed so when I used 1

yeah the android seems to be lagging the android program itself i played with the motorola droid and the htc droid and they were laggy i own a mt3g and an iphone and i would die without my iphone, i couldnt even check my bank account with the mt3g..i still have both but i prefer the iphone way better..my brother owns a g1 and he loves it which he talked me into getting a mt3g before i owned a dash and then got a dash 3g WM powered and i loved those phones because they were so user friendly...everyone is entitled to their own opinions im just speaking mine

Is it worth going from stock to MoDaCo?

Hello-
First off, please excuse my n00bness - I'm from the world of Windows Mobile hacking, and this Android stuff is really confusing me.
I've been tolerating stock for a while, but the slowness is really getting to me - today I clocked my Hero at 12 seconds to wake up from standby, which is just unacceptable. I'd like to know if there are any significant speed benefits to going from stock to the latest MoDaCo rom? Are there any downsides? I read the post over at modaco.com, but couldn't see any "known issues".
Thanks for any input,
TM

Take the plunge.

I went from stock to Fresh and overlayed Modaco. My uptime shot to 90%, 80% and stuck at 70%.
I reflashed to Stock then back to Modaco. I am now at around 15% uptime. I removed the bloatware from Sprint and LOVE the speed of this phone now. Its what I expected when I bought it.

I have no doubt that you'll see a speed increase with Modaco. Especially if you remove the sprint apps once you load Modaco.

Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.

it's worth it to switch to any custom rom. bluetooth is just something thats messed up with our 1.5 builds.

ffolkes said:
Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.
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you will notice a big difference switching to modaco 2.2... and im not experiencing any BT issues at all... matter or fact, im not experiencing ANY issues with anything using this rom...

Heck, anything is better than stock.

especially since we have a custom kernel now its definitely worth it to go to any custom rom, especially modaco 2.2

Im using fresh. I used the kitchen to root my phone and installed 1.1. No problems so far except that the voice recorder app keep crashing for some reason. I did an upgrade without wiping though so that might be my problem.
Its a lot faster and the tether app is awesome!

Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?

I ran stok for about 6 hours and decided that I didnt pay that much money for a smart phone that was that slow.
I flashed Fresh 1.0 to start and I have tried just about all the roms that are out there. Including modaco 2.2 and it may just be that I started with fresh but I always seem to go back to it over the rest, and add onto that the modaco kernel with compcache and then doing the config tweak found here my phone just flies now.
I now have it set to where I feel a phone at this price point should be to start.
edit: to remove the apps follow the instructions found here

ffolkes said:
Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?
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Use the Fresh Kitchen to pull any you don't want.

You know what? I've flashed MoDaCo's ROM before, but it was just too much like stock (except for the obvious speed increases). I flashed Fresh 1.1, and loved it because it had the speed of MoDaCo's, plus the Espresso UI. Then I recently flashed Gumbo Kernel to my phone, and omgwtfzorz my phone is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Not noticeably, but RIDICULOUSLY. I can't believe you've been living with stock for this long >.< Custom ROM's and kernels are necessary for this phone haha.

Rom woes- fresh toast and others won't load (lengthy)

Been lurking on here for a while, great site, helped me get my phone rooted and more useful than stock. My phone is however starting to give me some sass...
Got the Sprint CDMA Hero back in Feb. Loved it for about a week, then hated it.. Started to run REALLY slow (like 1-2 sec to flip between homescreens), so I took it back and got a new one. Again worked great for about a week then it slowed down slightly- said screw it and rooted it.
Wow. Loaded up Fresh 1.1 with the Gumbo Kernel (2.6.27), and SetCPU. Occasional force close aside, it became the phone I thought it should. When the official 2.1 update dropped, I looked back into the custom ROM to take advantage.
Familiar with Fresh's stuff, I decided to try out his stock ROM. After updated the RA, I loaded the ROM- then everything went downhill...
It was Slower than my stock 1.5 was, and force closed constantly. The phone was unusable. So I decided to load FreshToast. Wouldn't load- would get stuck on the HTC logo as it booted, like it would just freeze there. So I reverted back to my fresh 1.1 backup.
I then tried a few other ROMs, none of them would work either. Only ones I remember were iZEN: got the same HTC boot loop, and DAMAGE ROM: which worked for about 3 days before constant force closes.
Ultimately I went back to fresh 1.1 frustrated. That was a few weeks ago, now my fresh 1.1 is starting to wig out on me! Constant force closes of SenseUI, apps are unstable, and Wi-Fi tethering crashes my phone.
I really want to run FreshToast, or at least give it a go, but I don't know what to do at this point. Begining to think something is wrong with my phone (I have heard from many people personally that the CDMA hero is just generall unstable)
Please any suggestions would be appreciated.

Lots of things going on here, first I would say in my own personal experience my heroCDMA has been very stable, even overclocked to 768. I never get FCs unless I did something wrong messing with an APK or something.
Are you using Apps2sd? If so is your EXT 2 upgraded to EXT 3? And is your dalvik on internal memory or SDcard? Any particular program thats FCing on you, or just completely random? Are you wiping between roms(data, dalvik, EXT)?
I would give Fresh Rom 2.1.2 a go, and if you can get it stable and really want overclocking, flash an overclocked kernel over it. such as...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074

I've also had nothing but a stable platform out of this phone. Granted, pokey compared to current offerings, but definitely stable. My phone also started out as 1.5 from Sprint, but after getting tired of waiting for the official 2.1, I rooted, loaded RA 1.62, and have been rom-hopping ever since.
Just to rule out anything basic, you haven't applied the official Sprint 2.1 update or OTA patch, right?

I tried a few rooms from here and had stability issues as well. Try going to android central forums and flashing the honeybun rom. I have iced honeybun lite with the overclock kernel and overclock widget set to 710. It is very smooth and stable.
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Not running Apps2SD. I perform a nandroid backup, then wipe everything it will let me every time I try a new ROM. Running RA 1.62.
FCs are mainly random. I'm ok with one once in a while, not a big deal. But SenseUI, or Fresh itself will FC at least twice a day. No official Sprint patch/updates have been performed since rooting it.
I guess I should clarify the "unstable" comment I made. I know 6 people with the CDMA Hero, Only 2 of them haven't had any trouble. The rest of them have had at least 2 phones because it was practically unusable slow (very similar to what I mentioned with mine), one of them has gone through 5 of them- everyone has crashed. Maybe they just send us the bad batches here in the Midwest lol.
So those personal testimonies have always had me frustrated when it runs slow, cause everyone on the net doesn't seem to have these problems. I do have the "with Google" version, not sure if that impacts anything at all.
Is there any hard wipe I can do to start from scratch? It is Very possible I tweaked something wrong early on and it's just catching up with me. When I get a chance I'll try that honeybun ROM, Fazulka.
Thanks for the replies!

Aloysius 2.1 LWP (not overclocked) has been fast and rock solid. Some Hero's (like mine) have issues with the OC'ing so it might just be that. Try using a non overclocked ROM.

I have the same exact phone you do and I can testify that there is performance issues with these phones. ....I've personally been through 2 of these phones and I've got this one rooted running buufed 2.1.6 which runs okay although the older buufed roms Were way better.. not much u can do with the force closes..I'd boot back to stock and see how it responds...leaving it rooted on stock software should let u know if u messed anything up.. then try a rom like buufed 2.1.2..that's a good stable version but it doesn't come with sprint voicemail and work from there

Ext4 real world results

I have my setup in my sig and I'm happy with it but I'm really curious about the ext4. I've read some posts and some people say it makes their phone faster and some dont notice a whole lot. I'm just wondering if it's worth the hassle for me to do cause I'm on a dk28 extended so first I would have to Odin to the regular dk28. So for those who have done it how is it? If you notice anything where does the phone seem faster at? I just want to get some feedback so I can make my mind up if I even feel like doing it. Thanks and happy new year!

musclehead84 said:
I have my setup in my sig and I'm happy with it but I'm really curious about the ext4. I've read some posts and some people say it makes their phone faster and some dont notice a whole lot. I'm just wondering if it's worth the hassle for me to do cause I'm on a dk28 extended so first I would have to Odin to the regular dk28. So for those who have done it how is it? If you notice anything where does the phone seem faster at? I just want to get some feedback so I can make my mind up if I even feel like doing it. Thanks and happy new year!
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1st you don't have to re odin if you are on the dk28 extended...all you need is to b rooted and have clockwork installed. I definitely noticed a speed boost on midnight rom
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Oh the last time I read they said it should be used on the regular stock rom not the extended. Well that takes out a lot of steps for me then.

musclehead84 said:
Oh the last time I read they said it should be used on the regular stock rom not the extended. Well that takes out a lot of steps for me then.
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The whole procedure takes 5 minutes and my Epic is almost twice as fast!
Web pages load faster,etc,sht everything is faster and the lag is gone!Best mod for Epic,now my samsung feels smooth like htc.

Ran it for a day before I dropped my Epic and ruined it, and I didn't notice this ground shaking fastness everyone is talking about. The phone seemed pretty snappy, but it has always felt that way.

Two words ...No Lag!!
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I was wondering about this, too.
On the Moment, everyone was doing an Ext2 mod that was supposed to make the phone fly. It didn't, it just mmade it more unstable and decreased boot time. It did increase the quadrant score, but only because quadrant weighs I/O so heavily.

I would love for someone to make a video comparing the difference between having it and not having it. The differences should be very apparent in a comparison video with the same number of apps installed and everything.

Ya just need to try it,its more stable than tfs and way faster.

Boot time and shut down time are virtually cut in half.
When you do the following w/ RFS > long press home screen > add > shortcut > applications [insert delay here while it builds applist]
doing the same thing w/ EXT4 = no delay to 'build app list'
I'm using spare parts as well and w/ transitions set to fast etc.. it seems as if my phone opens apps, windows, screens, etc. before my finger hits the screen. It's so damn snappy it's unreal.
The members that I've seen that have not noticed improvements such as this have done a restore from a RFS based ROM..
I have not done a data restore at all.. Sucks, but I wanted a fresh install and didn't wanna taint my virgin EXT4 file system w/ RFS herpes LMFAO
Third and final point (for me) is battery life is tremendously improved w/ EXT4 vs RFS in my opinion.. I've been streaming heavily (w/ wifi to be fair) and my battery life is superb.
And if you wind up noticing something different, it only takes a few minutes w/ odin to return to stock and remove the EXT4 stuff.
Hope this helps.

daddymikey1975 said:
The members that I've seen that have not noticed improvements such as this have done a restore from a RFS based ROM..
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Restoring the data folder from an RFS based rom? I didn't think that would cause any ill effects, but maybe that is why i didn't notice any major differences.

Well you all talked me into it. I am going to start fresh. I'm going to Odin a fresh dk28 and root it and go from there. Guess I'll put midnight rom on till bonsai gets his done.

musclehead84 said:
Well you all talked me into it. I am going to start fresh. I'm going to Odin a fresh dk28 and root it and go from there. Guess I'll put midnight rom on till bonsai gets his done.
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Make sure when you flash your rom dont flash it within Clockwork 2.5.5 but boot into clockwork 2.5.5 and go to "advanced" and "reboot clockwork",after you do this it will take you into modded Clockwork 2.5.1.2(something like that".Flash your rom from the modded Clocwork and not the regular one,because flashing your rom from the regular Clockwork will reformat your sht back to rfs.
And after flashing your rom dont forget to flash the Ext4 kernel before you exit Clockwork.

musclehead84 said:
Well you all talked me into it. I am going to start fresh. I'm going to Odin a fresh dk28 and root it and go from there. Guess I'll put midnight rom on till bonsai gets his done.
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Try it out cause I can tell you the phone feels snappier and just quicker all around! As for the the guy that said his phone is twice as fast I can promise you it is NOT! You do not have to Odin like they said just make sure you have clockwork with redirector installed! It is a quick process and overall you will be happy with the results. I also agree with you that my phone ran very well before I formatted to the new file system. It was smooth and quick but this is an easy mod and like I said you are just going to notice the difference ever so slightly but it is well worth it!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

So every time I flash a new rom that I flash it in the new cwm and then I flash the kernel right after? I guess flashing themes doesn't change? Thanks for the input guys.

musclehead84 said:
Well you all talked me into it. I am going to start fresh. I'm going to Odin a fresh dk28 and root it and go from there. Guess I'll put midnight rom on till bonsai gets his done.
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Midnights rom is ual boot so you don't have to odin back to stock. He also has a really simplified way to get ext4 on ur phone in only 3 steps
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

musclehead84 said:
So every time I flash a new rom that I flash it in the new cwm and then I flash the kernel right after? I guess flashing themes doesn't change? Thanks for the input guys.
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After you formated to Ext4 anything that you flash(themes,apps,etc..) flash it in the cmw 2.5.1.2(it will say it on the bottom of cmw),only thing that is safe to flash in old cmw(2.5.5) is kernels.

Do u have to flash the ext kernel after a rom change? I've seen conflicting answers?

Since changing to ext4 its generally faster and smoother, not a huge increase but noticiable. When going to add widgets or application shortcuts its way faster, the apps list loads almost instantly and you can scroll to the bottom with no lag or stuttering. Gallery seems much faster then dk28 with rfs too. Apps load faster in general, animations between screens look smoother and it boots quicker. Dungeon Defenders plays a little better, it doesn't chug as much during big battles.

Ok if I do try this and I don't notice a whole lot can I boot into cwm and restore back to my bonsai rom like the way it is now? Would I have to do that thru the new or old cwm? Thanks

Having serious issues with vibrant, HELP!

this is my girlfriends phone, it's currently rooted and rom:do, running 2.2 with Bali 1.8 kernel.
Lately she has been complaining about everything being slow and esp her phone book, messaging app and other stuff just closing on its own when she is in it.
No force closes just closes like she backed out.
I went ahead and flashed the new touch wiz 4.0 just to see if it helped. It did for a short time, then the problem returned, I tried a different launcher, same problem.
I'm unsure what else to do or where to look as I've done everything I could think of, even remove apps and other things.
She has all her work information and stuff on there so she is anti wipe.
Can anyone think if what could be causing these issues?
Sent from my Nexus S 4G with Ics 4.0.3

Titanium Backup > Wipe > Restore?

just back everything up and reflash a 2.2 rom. try project v. it works perfect.
Sent from my Vibrant

You can try booting into recovery and wiping cache and dalvik and then do a fix permissions just for kicks and it should clear up some lag and spontaneous closes.

Thanks, I'll try the dalvik and cache wipe with fix permissions first.
To be honest I'm not new to Android and find myself pretty advanced with this stuff from the evo, to the epic and now the nexus and I've never had any issues like this, but then again when I had any problems i just would wipe down the phone and start fresh. I'll post back and see if that helps.
Thanks all
Sent from my Nexus S 4G with Ics 4.0.3

I agree with backing up the phone and then flashing a new rom. The ICS Passion ROM is awesome! Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362961

So far the fix permissions has fixed the issues for now.
I'll let everyone know when she starts complaining because sometimes it goes away and comes back.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G with Ics 4.0.3

Problems have returned. Not as bad and as often but the laggyness and force closes are back.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G with Ics 4.0.1

Is she maybe Undervolted? Might want to try another kernel. Maybe Bali X 1.2 which will allow for and OC to **guess* 1.2. Other than that, I would say to pull everything off and put on PC and either reflash her ROM or put a new one on there.
If you are going to maintain it for her, then ICS-Passion is a good option. If not and she just wants a basic 2.2 that works, there is Bionix, Toxic8, Deranged9 and Fishman's Bionix (redux) which are all quality ROMs with great battery life.

Woodrube said:
Is she maybe Undervolted? Might want to try another kernel.
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That's what I was going to say. Did you recently flash the kernel? Just like the GPS, each Vibrant seems to react differently to different kernels. Myself, I cannot UV. Causes all sorts of wonkiness.

Thanks for the replies everyone.
i just cant get why this is happening, the phone was being super laggy, i rebooted it. right away on start up twlauncher force close, then it was laggy as hell.
i went ahead and started messing with govenors and it seemed to stop being laggy.
i went ahead and flashed Bali X from regular bali and overclocked it and went to ondemand.
then the phone kept getting the sleep of death and never would wake up, so i just went and flashed overstock kernel, and im leaving it ondemand for now.
i dont think these kernels are undervolted, but i always figured as for my nexus a too low of undervolt would cause a random reboot, not slow sluggyness.
im basically at the point of flashing a new rom, but trying to save the way everything is.

Hey sorry I forgot to tell you Bali X does not play well with on-demand. Set it to conservative or performance. Also if running profiles then no Screen Off. These cause sleep of death. My bad.

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Hey sorry I forgot to tell you Bali X does not play well with on-demand. Set it to conservative or performance. Also if running profiles then no Screen Off. These cause sleep of death. My bad.
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hey no problem, shes gone off to work, and the overstock seems to be doing well so far,
ill see if the problems return, if she does have issues ill go back to balix, overclock and set to either one of those you mentioned, im not running setcpu either, i use nstools for the cpu settings.

Scratch that, lol problems have returned and only a reboot will solve..
Ics 4.0.3

I would just Ti backup everything and flash bionix-v.... My phone was laggy with cm7 and ics passion, but runs bionix fishmans mod great. (but that might just be because im a noob.)
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It doesn't hurt to shut off animations.... Can cause serious lag on some configurations. Not SOD though.
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~faux v0.0.9u

intheb0x said:
Thanks for the replies everyone.
i just cant get why this is happening, the phone was being super laggy, i rebooted it. right away on start up twlauncher force close, then it was laggy as hell.
i went ahead and started messing with govenors and it seemed to stop being laggy.
i went ahead and flashed Bali X from regular bali and overclocked it and went to ondemand.
then the phone kept getting the sleep of death and never would wake up, so i just went and flashed overstock kernel, and im leaving it ondemand for now.
i dont think these kernels are undervolted, but i always figured as for my nexus a too low of undervolt would cause a random reboot, not slow sluggyness.
im basically at the point of flashing a new rom, but trying to save the way everything is.
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Hey, I had a serious issue with my Vibrant as well. I am on CM7, but this really helped. I'm too new to post links (lame), but google this "Problems with /datadata? Causing force closes for Google apps". Go to the Rootwiki page and read the thread. It should help.
I did this and thus far only a few FC every now and then, but easily cured through a "fix permissions" in recovery.

If you can't fix it I second the post saying to flash a different rom. Project v was pretty stable if I remember correctly. Also the new version of bionix 1.3.1 is supposed to be pretty stable too. And GPS!
Vibrant + ICS

Problems have returned, and it doesn't matter what rom i flash, same problems happen, things auto close without force close notices, doesn't matter what launcher i use or what rom or kernel, it's time for a full wipe.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G with Ics 4.0.4