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Your worst nightmare. Lost phone.

I've had the HD2 since November. This forum has been a revelation. But a few hours ago I lost the phone. It's gone for good. No insurance, no location software, unlocked, 16gb sd card. Adios amigo.
Perhaps not my finest hour. Sadly, I wasn't even drunk. Just fell out of my pocket in the taxi cab. It seems some people in Poland aren't that honest. I contacted the actual cab 20min later through the company but it wasn't there.
Anyway, I still consider myself a lucky guy. This was my first foray into the world of smartphones and through an almost free upgrade on t-mobile uk i got the phone for only 100gbp (+40 for the sd card). I bought a few apps and pirated quite a few more, so perhaps this is karma at work.
Writing this is somewhat therapeutic for me but the need to find a replacement is paramount so this also allows all you guys to share your wisdom, if you will..
No other phone matches the HD2 for screen size. It's pure luxury - ok its not AMOLED, but I've looked just now - and AMOLED is maxed at 3.7" - a significant downgrade.
The other issue is the pirating of software. I know it's wrong but I think we can all agree it's the most convenient way to test apps before buying.
However, WMP7S has left me somewhat unimpressed, I think Android is where it's at right now - development is on fire on that platform. Am I wrong? should I wait to see what happens on wm7 - i suspect that would take a year at least
So what are my options? Whichever phone I pick must be supported by XDA.... (I know I don't have many posts yet, but I chose my name for a reason... )
HTC Desire? HTC Bravo? Samsung Pico (Projector phone!!!) What's coming up?
I suspect this is the year of the smartphone and my academic year is almost up so I can perhaps hold off until the summer before buying. (Back to my w810 - still the toughest phone ever built imo)
Thanks for listening and hopefully replying.... time to roll...

All Day On XDA said:
....I... pirated quite a few more (apps)..., ..
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You absolutely will not win many friends on here with the statement above.
WB

I'm not proud but I'm not rich either - I'm trying to do Med School on the cheap and its not easy. If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
This has only been a brief visit to the Windows platform since Windows 7 came out. For 3 years prior to that I was using linux.
Virtually all the apps I use regularly,eg FPSECE, I paid for the supporter version. There's plenty of programs that don't survive more than 2 weeks.
I apologise to anyone who may feel insulted. My intent is not to steal, but to get value for money.
Is this further weight to switch to Open platforms?

HTC Supersonic
problem solved - just have to wait again

Try out the 'premium features' on htt p://myphone.microsoft.c om/
Lock your phone
Lock your phone so that it cannot be used by anyone else. You can also enter a message to display on your phone's screen to tell the finder how to contact you.
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And that's if it can't be found through GPS...

All Day On XDA said:
If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
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You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.

Touche, and a fair point. I wont try to defend piracy with any real heart - I accept it's wrong even if the end justifies the means ('end' being good software, 'means' being fracturing a few rules)
Thanks for the MyPhone tip - I've locked the phone at least.
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I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL

willgill said:
You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
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wrong post, sorry......

Starfury said:
I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
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Hahaha OMG I also had a nightmare about my phone being damaged some days ago, and just like you when I woke up I thanked the lords
We are so obsessed xD

Cracking the encryption on the Atrix

So.. what is stopping us from brute forcing the encryption keys on the Atrix? Forgive me if this is ignorant.. but I know of things like [email protected] that utilize a network to work on solving complex things.. The biggest gripe that I have, and I know that a lot of people have, with the Atrix is that it's going to come with the encrypted bootloader (the docks are silly, just get a netbook and tether it after rooting , but thats irrelavent).
I'm sure people would contribute their computers to a cause like this, and with a brute force method between even hundreds of computers looking for an encryption key probably wouldn't take.. that long?
If each phone has a unique encryption key then I guess that this is a useless approach, but I thought I'd throw the idea out.
Joe

There's a project working to crack the keys on the milestone, but it can take a rediculous amount of computing power.
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TheEscapist said:
but it can take a rediculous amount of computing power.
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And by ridiculous he means years worth of time.
However, don't get depressed, there is a good chance that the Atrix has only a locked and not encrypted bootloader. I wrote a more detailed discussion in this post if you are interested in reading more.

I'm no genius but couldn't XDA develop some sort of distributed computing program and get that done FAST.
I'd leave every computer I had running... GPU's+CPU's that's like 10-20ghz 24hrs a day from just me.
Dumb Idea??

NonovUrbizniz said:
I'm no genius but couldn't XDA develop some sort of distributed computing program and get that done FAST.
I'd leave every computer I had running... GPU's+CPU's that's like 10-20ghz 24hrs a day from just me.
Dumb Idea??
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That was along the idea that I had (folding at home is a program that distributes the load across a large network of computers). So a "ridiculous amount of time" could be decrypted in just a few days if we got even 100 people to participate. The problem in this case is making an application that would be capable of distributing this load.
However, I guess the most important thing is going to be seeing if the bootloader is encrypted or not..

You guys aren't getting how much time it will really take, they use a 1024bit key, that's enough possibilities to have computers cranking for BILLIONS of YEARS.
I just put 2^1024 into a calculator, divided by 100,000,000,000 for a theoretical 100Tflop supercomputer (pretty easy to do with something like BOINC), and assuming the best case scenario that it will actually test 100 billion keys a second.
Then I divided by 3600 (seconds in an hour), divided again by 24 (hours in a day), divided again by 365 (days in a year)
and ended up with:
156,176,644,814,042,999,149,422,203,351,770,599,516,445,391,302,508,511,493,218,518,829,302,867,438,735,781,097,061,916,038,037,447,110,777,605,658,652,684,262,264,122,384,866,885,440,334,201,600,119,084,711,517,142,307,834,199,910,062,604,876,532,708,949,388,959,330,629,821,630,916,124,690,444,964,365,909,692,174,466,876,583,089,353,285,751,864,871,369,654,465,126,125,462,803,375 years
In short, we need a way to get around the encryption another way, like what happened with the PS3, an error in the implementation, or a leaked key from someone inside motorola.

miztic said:
You guys aren't getting how much time it will really take, they use a 1024bit key, that's enough possibilities to have computers cranking for BILLIONS of YEARS.
I just put 2^1024 into a calculator, divided by 100,000,000,000 for a theoretical 100Tflop supercomputer (pretty easy to do with something like BOINC), and assuming the best case scenario that it will actually test 100 billion keys a second.
Then I divided by 3600 (seconds in an hour), divided again by 24 (hours in a day), divided again by 365 (days in a year)
and ended up with:
156,176,644,814,042,999,149,422,203,351,770,599,516,445,391,302,508,511,493,218,518,829,302,867,438,735,781,097,061,916,038,037,447,110,777,605,658,652,684,262,264,122,384,866,885,440,334,201,600,119,084,711,517,142,307,834,199,910,062,604,876,532,708,949,388,959,330,629,821,630,916,124,690,444,964,365,909,692,174,466,876,583,089,353,285,751,864,871,369,654,465,126,125,462,803,375 years
In short, we need a way to get around the encryption another way, like what happened with the PS3, an error in the implementation, or a leaked key from someone inside motorola.
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well ****.

miztic said:
In short, we need a way to get around the encryption another way, like what happened with the PS3, an error in the implementation, or a leaked key from someone inside motorola.
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Or motorola actually pull a smart one and start some kinda dev program that will let you have the keys after signing some kinda agreement.
They would get massive PR/loyalty points from me if they did something like that, I'd not only be recommending all their stuff to everyone I know, I would never buy anything else as long as they make nice hardware.
Imagine what we could do with these phones without having to waste time getting around the stupid 'locks'.

Are you talking about this eFuse thing? The encrypted bootloader?
That's part of the OMAP-SoC as used in the DroidX.
AFAIK the Tegra does not have this "feature", so the bootloader might be locked, but not encrypted.

TinyRK said:
Are you talking about this eFuse thing? The encrypted bootloader?
That's part of the OMAP-SoC as used in the DroidX.
AFAIK the Tegra does not have this "feature", so the bootloader might be locked, but not encrypted.
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Yeah I heard the same thing. I really we get some confirmation in the next few days.

have you checked the developer category? the atrix was dumped today

miztic said:
You guys aren't getting how much time it will really take, they use a 1024bit key, that's enough possibilities to have computers cranking for BILLIONS of YEARS.
I just put 2^1024 into a calculator, divided by 100,000,000,000 for a theoretical 100Tflop supercomputer (pretty easy to do with something like BOINC), and assuming the best case scenario that it will actually test 100 billion keys a second.
Then I divided by 3600 (seconds in an hour), divided again by 24 (hours in a day), divided again by 365 (days in a year)
and ended up with:
156,176,644,814,042,999,149,422,203,351,770,599,516,445,391,302,508,511,493,218,518,829,302,867,438,735,781,097,061,916,038,037,447,110,777,605,658,652,684,262,264,122,384,866,885,440,334,201,600,119,084,711,517,142,307,834,199,910,062,604,876,532,708,949,388,959,330,629,821,630,916,124,690,444,964,365,909,692,174,466,876,583,089,353,285,751,864,871,369,654,465,126,125,462,803,375 years
In short, we need a way to get around the encryption another way, like what happened with the PS3, an error in the implementation, or a leaked key from someone inside motorola.
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So you're saying there's a chance.

GatorRuss said:
So you're saying there's a chance.
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Lol...reminds me of the one in a million chance from dumb and dumber
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seanfinn said:
Lol...reminds me of the one in a million chance from dumb and dumber
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That's what I was going for.

Its Rooted at least!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960336
Boot loader still locked but...Design Gear was able to extract the kernel and ramdisk from the boot.img __________________

So where does this stand? can we dowload an app to run on our PC's to help contribute some computing power?

Any news if the bootloader is actually encrypted?

Uh oh for all of us who root noooooooooooo

If true...
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/04/developer-troubled-times-ahead-for-anyone-who-roots/
Oh and where's the tags that the mods add in on My threads about my girl blowing everyone lol I'm still waiting haaaaa update there it is

Oh nooooooeeessss!!!

Sigh.
This really makes me want to just use a laptop for a phone now.
At least I can do what I want with my laptop's data connection.

WTF!??
10char

f***

OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.

this is me forgetting to thank you.

drmacinyasha said:
OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.
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+1
I will never buy a phone from a carrier that implements this crap

drmacinyasha said:
ok, this is the kinda stuff where either google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the fcc needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw verizon and every other carrier that does this.
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+2788786886

I agree this is total B.S.

lost_man10002 said:
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I will never buy a phone from a carrier that implements this crap
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No one should, the consumers run this together we can boycott any carrier who does this dictatorship bull****, I pledge I will not support any carrier who does this.
I'd rather take my evo and flash to cricket
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drmacinyasha said:
OK, this is the kinda stuff where either Google needs to get its balls back and *****-slap the carriers, or the FCC needs to actually step in to protect customers.
Either way, it's bull****. Screw Verizon and every other carrier that does this.
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+1
This brought tears to my eyes.
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Eff that. I will not buy a phone like that... If I have to go back to dumbphones... Then so be it.
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It will never happen. The backlash would just be too much to handle.
And if manufacturers were to begin implementing these types of lockdowns, you know for a fact that they'll just be hacked around sooner or later.
Hello? We are discussing this on XDA... Home to undoubtedly the best group of white hat device hackers I've seen.
We all assume risk when rooting our devices and given the more open nature of Android, there's always the concern that some application will start stealing your data. It's a risk I'm willing to take and I'm sure most everyone else here as well.

mkhopper said:
It will never happen. The backlash would just be too much to handle.
And if manufacturers were to begin implementing these types of lockdowns, you know for a fact that they'll just be hacked around sooner or later.
Hello? We are discussing this on XDA... Home to undoubtedly the best group of white hat device hackers I've seen.
We all assume risk when rooting our devices and given the more open nature of Android, there's always the concern that some application will start stealing your data. It's a risk I'm willing to take and I'm sure most everyone else here as well.
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Here's the problem with what you stated, the percentage of users rooted compared to non rooted, well are not even close, if they did lock out every new phone with master keys that we would never be able to figure out, well it could happen. Even if they did lose every rooted users support financially, they would still have more than 95 percent of their profiT, that's my fear, it'll hurt but not if sprint, Verizon, etc pays the difference or that kind of sort of thing. For example to make it easy, say all rooted user cause 600,000 in lost profit for sprint that they could have potentially gained, well HTC goes hey well lock the device but we want the difference from the users like us who will not purchase the phone. Anyway that's my take on it, enlighten me with your guys thoughts

It may be time to dust off my Razr.

Carriers get smart, devs get smarter......lets not jump the gun and worry about this nonsense now. I will enjoy my rooted phone for now. If this does go down those of you saying you will go to "dumbphones" are full of it. Even if these phones are locked down tighter than a 17 year old girls tuna you will still use it. I see the future as phones will be so fast why would you need to root; I love to root, I've been rooting ALL my phones since g1 and the sole purpose was the speed my phone up. Dual core phone no root ehh who cares. I will NOT use a free phone just because these phones in the future will possibly be locked. One can only hope this security doesn't see light but if it does I'm sure we'll be ok.

iitreatedii said:
Here's the problem with what you stated, the percentage of users rooted compared to non rooted, well are not even close, if they did lock out every new phone with master keys that we would never be able to figure out, well it could happen. Even if they did lose every rooted users support financially, they would still have more than 95 percent of their profiT, that's my fear, it'll hurt but not if sprint, Verizon, etc pays the difference or that kind of sort of thing. For example to make it easy, say all rooted user cause 600,000 in lost profit for sprint that they could have potentially gained, well HTC goes hey well lock the device but we want the difference from the users like us who will not purchase the phone. Anyway that's my take on it, enlighten me with your guys thoughts
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I've heard the "rooted users are the extreme minority" comment countless times, and all logic says it really must be true.
However, when I go to the market, click apps, then all applications, then click top paid, 3 of the top 5 require root. As an honest question, are my market results tailored for my usage history or is that the same "top paid" list everyone sees? If it is indeed the same for everyone then it becomes much harder to quantify rooted users being in the minority.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Carriers get smart, devs get smarter......lets not jump the gun and worry about this nonsense now. I will enjoy my rooted phone for now. If this does go down those of you saying you will go to "dumbphones" are full of it. Even if these phones are locked down tighter than a 17 year old girls tuna you will still use it. I see the future as phones will be so fast why would you need to root; I love to root, I've been rooting ALL my phones since g1 and the sole purpose was the speed my phone up. Dual core phone no root ehh who cares. I will NOT use a free phone just because these phones in the future will possibly be locked. One can only hope this security doesn't see light but if it does I'm sure we'll be ok.
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Completely agree about the smartphone part but do not about the master key part, it would take years like 75 - 100 if the key is properly secure for many and I mean many super computers to solve that algorithm...look at the droids, the only reason on a side note the ps3 master key was released was because the people who secured it messed up in the formula, and that still took 5 years..

the consequence would never be the same.

Free Xanax or tampax

So, I'll admit I have some pet peeves around here. I hate when people assume, though I do it. I hate when people get asked the same question 5x and can't ever answer it simply, and I don't do that. I hate that there is anything 1 click or rom managing and feel that rooting has gone from something for people that want a better understanding and to get the most out of their phones, to something that all the cool kids are doing and then they can't read or comprehend what they did and then EXPECT someone to fix their screw up. I also get creating something and not receiving proper respects, and the fact that most code is copied. Hell, if it wasn't, we'd all still be on dos. Anyway, my point is this, it's even more annoying than all that to open threads that should hold some value just to see everyone comparing the size of their vaginas. So in keeping with valuable threads, everyone should start donating Xanax and tampax instead of PayPal and maybe we can get back to telling people to use search 50x a day or something?
~maybe I set it too high...

+1 lol couldn't agree more
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Xanax is great. It's so addictive though I'm afraid to take it.

Haha ya bad bad bad as I look back everything I have done this was rreally stupid I was on Xanax and ya rooting ur phone shouldn't b because it cool it should b because u love the advanced things we can do on our phones and wanna make the possibilities endless one click roots haha I mean whats tthe fun n that honestly
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Xanaxaphobia..you can probably get something better with that diagnosis
~maybe I set it too high...

And if some of you devs could start working some miracles, gingerbread and awesome themes and overclocking and fireratting and rooting are all great, but if you could part the seas and turn some water into wine all while reciting the Gettysburg address and standing on your head, then that would be something great to see on YouTube. Honestly though, thank you for making instructions better than IKEA. Stupid pictures with no words. How much expense could words really add after you've already paid for some child laborer to draw for you?
~maybe I set it too high...

Ok, take a Xanax n calm down... LOL. seriously tho. I feel ya, one click root should be banned. Sum ppl just shouldn't be messin with things when they have no clue what they're getting into!
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I used a one click root about 9 months ago, it worked for me and I have learned a tremendous amount since then. I understand the thought that it can sometimes breed lazy root users but often it can be a tool to expedite the process and set a firm foundation for what the user will ultimately learn. This, of course, is not always the case but grouping one click rooters in to the lazy/stupid category isn't necessarily accurate either.
Since my one-click root I've dabbled into many different roms, found the ones I liked, changed recoveries a few times, used apps2sd and data2ext (ext4 and ext2) before finally finding the setup that matches my needs the best.
I understand that getting the same question 100 times is annoying, but remember that we were all new to android at some point. If it weren't for XDA, its community of awesome users, and even more amazing developers I'd be stuck with a bloated, slow Hero. I am by no means an expert now, nor will I ever be, but I learn more every day.
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*chuckle* I could vent here also but I've said my peace. I've committed to at least trying to ignore the ignorance. If they don't show the board respect in those small ways then I refuse to help. My time is more valueable. I did recently in fact let it get too me too much and let y3mita try but I did get the better of him and got him banned along with the help of others that reported. Thank you those of you.
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Anyone else not to thrilled with their Atrix?

Maybe its just me but im not as impressed with my Atrix as i thought i would be. Before this i had a Nexus one and it seemed like it was much faster than the Atrix it just seems like its always lagging a little bit, i can really tell it when i unlock it because it will randomly stop before im done swiping my code. (if that makes since, hard to explain) I would use the Finger Print scanner but that took about 6 times to finally unlock the phone. Last but not least the flash light on the back. I use to use it all the time but now it doesn't work half the time. It will start flashing and dim untill it finally goes dead and doesnt work. It has like a yellow tint to it to. (not sure if that's normal)
Also the dock was a waist of 80$ Its not worth but maybe 10$ I cant even sync the phone up to the computer in it.

I am pretty much in love with mine... No lag, no random restarts, no troubles from the flash, zero problems. I am rooted and using GingerBlur 4.5 ATM. Maybe try modding it some.

i think we need a separate sub-forum for unhappy users. that way I dont have to read them
I think the Atrix is GREAT. I have owned it for a few months and at the same time bought and returned the HTC Inspire, SGS2 and the HTC Sensation. It beat them ALL IMHO. especially in battery life, sound quality and loudness, and general ability to run anything I install without a hitch. It is fast but not over-tuned (and lacking torque when it matters). For example, I play a lot of video and onyl the Atrix plays everything without a stutter. OK its camera isnt as good as SGS2, but its good enough. I like its screen the most of all the devices (its the birghtest, especially whites). Its the only device I feel I can rely on for an entire day without being near a battery charger.

Sanbourne said:
Maybe its just me but im not as impressed with my Atrix as i thought i would be. Before this i had a Nexus one and it seemed like it was much faster than the Atrix it just seems like its always lagging a little bit, i can really tell it when i unlock it because it will randomly stop before im done swiping my code. (if that makes since, hard to explain) I would use the Finger Print scanner but that took about 6 times to finally unlock the phone. Last but not least the flash light on the back. I use to use it all the time but now it doesn't work half the time. It will start flashing and dim untill it finally goes dead and doesnt work. It has like a yellow tint to it to. (not sure if that's normal)
Also the dock was a waist of 80$ Its not worth but maybe 10$ I cant even sync the phone up to the computer in it.
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..And the towers are too far apart and it doesn't play the song I want and one of the guys at the att store smells funny. Also Im on XDA but I'm not too sure how to search or ask questions so I guess I will rant.

As has bene documented countless times in this forum, the hardware is being suffocated by the software. That's why everyone anxiously awaits the bypassing of the bootloader, loading custom kernels and ROMs, and why many people are pressuring Motorola to set their phone free. Motorola promises late 2011, but some people have different timelines to take matters into their own hands.

No, mine is fast and has no lag.
Getting faster the more crap I put on it.

@WiredPirate
If your not going to answer my question dont reply to my thread.
Trolls these days, i swear

Sanbourne said:
@WiredPirate
If your not going to answer my question dont reply to my thread.
Trolls these days, i swear
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Exactly what goes through my mind when I see responses like that.
I'm in the same boat as you Sanbourne. Been having a lot of problems with my Atrix and I'm just about ready to get rid of it

I have used many phones, and I mean MANY. The atrix is the only phone that has finally made me say, wow. I don't see the problems your having and maybe the fact that its an assembly line phone you might need to replace it. I run 3d graphics without a hitch. Screen scrolling and unlocking is smooth as butter. Not to mention call quality, speaker, display, etc... It is by far a beast of a device. I have packed almost 40gb of info into this thing, have over 80 apps, including games, productivity and more. I am probably at any given time running 15 or more processes in the background and still, it takes it with no problem. These are phones here, and in a world where we rely less on what they do and more on how they do it and how they look we seem to forget that nothing comes close to what this phone has achieved in a power user standpoint. Keep that all in mind when you think the atrix isn't that great or impressive. Its your personal workhorse, its not a "pretty" phone or a "wow look at that phone!" its a, "nope, leave the laptop, I have everything I need right here"

I'm so tired of people *****ing about there phone. If I don't like it take it back. I love mine....fast as hell....tons of features..
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J-man67 said:
I am pretty much in love with mine... No lag, no random restarts, no troubles from the flash, zero problems. I am rooted and using GingerBlur 4.5 ATM. Maybe try modding it some.
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same here
i m just waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked + / and GB 2.3.4
ekerbuddyeker said:
i think we need a separate sub-forum for unhappy users. that way I dont have to read them
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agreed

Sanbourne said:
@WiredPirate
If your not going to answer my question dont reply to my thread.
Trolls these days, i swear
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You didn't ask any questions, there is not one single question mark in your whole post. You only posted to complain. This is a public forum if you dont want to hear my reply then you should post in a private forum. Instead you want me to read your lame ass post and copy/paste the information here for you so you dont have to do any work finding the answers yourself? YOU are the troll.
XXtremeAzzKicker said:
I'm so tired of people *****ing about there phone. If I don't like it take it back. I love mine....fast as hell....tons of features..
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+1

skillz9669 said:
I have used many phones, and I mean MANY. The atrix is the only phone that has finally made me say, wow. I don't see the problems your having and maybe the fact that its an assembly line phone you might need to replace it. I run 3d graphics without a hitch. Screen scrolling and unlocking is smooth as butter. Not to mention call quality, speaker, display, etc... It is by far a beast of a device. I have packed almost 40gb of info into this thing, have over 80 apps, including games, productivity and more. I am probably at any given time running 15 or more processes in the background and still, it takes it with no problem. These are phones here, and in a world where we rely less on what they do and more on how they do it and how they look we seem to forget that nothing comes close to what this phone has achieved in a power user standpoint. Keep that all in mind when you think the atrix isn't that great or impressive. Its your personal workhorse, its not a "pretty" phone or a "wow look at that phone!" its a, "nope, leave the laptop, I have everything I need right here"
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Same here and with Citrix Xen Desktop and the lapdock I can run a Windows XP session and use Excel/Word and all my other office software....
I don't understand about the flashlight...although I have read that some apps can burn out the led on a phone. Maybe you should take it in under warranty.
On the keypad..there is a delay if you are in the process of rebooting your phone. Otherwise entering the code is instantaneous. Fingerprint reader may take me two times..

Ive owned a moto backflip and htc aria before getting this phone and in my opinion, it feels like a better version of the motorola backflip
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WiredPirate said:
You didn't ask any questions, there is not one single question mark in your whole post. You only posted to complain. This is a public forum if you dont want to hear my reply then you should post in a private forum. Instead you want me to read your lame ass post and copy/paste the information here for you so you dont have to do any work finding the answers yourself? YOU are the troll.
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I'm pretty sure you're the troll. If you don't like the content of the thread (or can already tell you won't by reading the title), exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.

I came from a Vodafone UK Iphone 4 and got back to the states...I picked up the atrix after a BUNCH of research. I am really happy with it. So much I really havent even paid attention to upcoming phones.(thats how I gauge how much i really like a phone). it is kinda like being happy with your woman enough not to notice all the others out there.
The other thing to keep in mind is the version of Android isnt even supporting ALL that this phone can do. So it really is future proof for a while. Gingerblur has made things smooth as can possibly be also.
give it some time bro

OP, I disagree with you. I recently baught a nexus one for my wife, $270 brand new. Although I love its build quality, my Atrix is MUCH faster (with Go launcher EX). And yes, even the Nexus one with its 1 Ghz CPU lags after a day of use.
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dLo GSR said:
I'm pretty sure you're the troll. If you don't like the content of the thread (or can already tell you won't by reading the title), exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.
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Now you're the troll. If you don't like the content of my post, exercise some god damn willpower and DON'T REPLY. You're wasting everyone's time.

skillz9669 said:
Keep that all in mind when you think the atrix isn't that great or impressive. Its your personal workhorse, its not a "pretty" phone or a "wow look at that phone!" its a, "nope, leave the laptop, I have everything I need right here"
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Exactly what I think about the atrix.
I love it.
Great post skillz. +1

Will agree with OP... It's nice but nothing takes advantage of the dual cores it seems.
Live Wallpaper is laggy (with launcher pro or motoblur), the screen takes forever to turn on, it seems every other previous flagship device is getting updates (It's pissing me off!)...
Next time I'm definitely going with HTC, if I can't find a good HTC I'll opt for samsung, but never again for Motorola. Or AT&T for that fact.