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I just recently bought a Rogers HTC Magic, rooted the phone, and unlocked it. Everything seems to work completely fine. At the moment however, I seem to be having an issue with a Bell Mobility sim card. Bell's HSPA sim works fine, and I seem to be able to use voice and data ok, but the problem lies in that their seems to be a roaming symbol ("R") on my reception bar. Im using the phone in my local calling area which is somewhat misleading to me.
Im using MyHero 2.0.5 ROM at the moment. Does anyone know why this is happening? Thanks in advance!
Agreed
I'm doing the same thing. I'm running cyanogens roms and I get the same thing. Best I can tell is that this is normal on the magic. Just be careful if you live near the border like I do.
I figured this was normal too. I guess i'll try other SIM cards to see what they say as well, thanks!
Ya I also have this phone running on Bell, wish I could get rid of the roaming. It also asks if I want to connect once in a while too.
Shouldn't the romaing be dictated by the sim? I have a bell sim, on the bell network, why do I get the roaming icon? is there a way to change the phone so it doesn't think it's a rogers and not roaming or something?
Are you sure you have the Bell APN Settings and not the Rogers Settings in the phone?
Settings -> Wireless Control -> Mobile Network Settings -> Access Point Names
If it says Rogers you're Roaming on the Rogers Network.
I put in the bell APN. I don't think we can even roam on rogers network, wouldn't work. Either way, it's the Bell APN.
I don't have a clue as to the differences between Bell and Rogers sims... but I can tell you that my HTC Magic, on Rogers, with a Rogers sim (duh), running Amon_RA's most excellent RAv1.6.2H only shows roaming when actually roaming.
I was in the US yesterday and watched it flip from a Rogers tower to ATT. I was watching to make sure it was not using any data when roaming on a US network. The symbol, lockscreen info and the carrier listed in the status pulldown all were updated correctly.
It might have something to do with the ROM you are running. However I bet that given the phone came from Rogers, it has some carrier info buried somewhere that it is comparing to the carrier you are on (Bell) and triggering the roaming status.
If you disable data when roaming in the settings menu, what does it do? If it disables data, then the phone thinks it is roaming, which would support my carrier data mixup theory.
I will try a different rom on the phone. Unless someone knows for sure what I can do to fix this.
If you disable roaming there is no data, because once in a while it prompts to connect, if you say no, you get nothing. Sometimes my wife must accidentally hit no (its her phone, she probably says no cause shes not sure what it does). I just want to make it so she does not get the prompt ever (settings are all set).
I have a rogers HTC Magic (unlocked) I'm using a fido sim, it thinks its roaming as-well but I have only fido apn settings. It only roams with certain roms and radio's. I can use alot of roms eg. cyanogen,Hero HOFO 308,GYD 2.1.1 without roaming but when I update radio and flash cursorsense roms it thinks it is roaming. I have to enable data roaming in order to get a 3G signal. as a fido user I dial *#123# to see if I'm in my local zone zone. A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
I have the AT&T Tilt, not running the AT&T ROM. I've tested a few different SIM cards on my phone and here's what I've found:
Rogers: Roaming works correctly. In Canada, no roaming indicator, in the USA, roaming is indicated correctly.
Telus & Bell (HSPA): Roaming indicator always on.
I've heard that this may be due to the SIM card listing more than one Mobile Network Code: 302361, 302653, 302657 (original Telus CDMA networks, not compatible with the phone or any kind of SIM-based network so it's uncertain why it would be on the SIM card), PLUS the HSPA network code 302880. It's possible that the phone is not reading that far into the list on the SIM and therefore does not know that 302880 is a home network.
Tilt 2 Roaming Triangle and telus
I'm on Telus and have a Tilt2. The original ROM that came with the unit didn't show the roaming triangle. I have attached some screen captures of the ROM. I've attached a copy of the registry (Remove the .cab it was the only way I could get it to upload).
I'm now running Jackos rom and it does show the roaming triangle.
Hopefully somebody can find where the settings are located and hopefully it's contained in the registry.
Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
rogers htc dream unlocked now on roaming?
i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
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Have the same problem on the Stocks ROGERS 1.5 Rom. Sales associate said you should not get roaming charges since you aren't actually roaming and if you do, just contact your phone provider.
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i also have a htc dream from rogers unlocked not rooted and my bell sims card works like my phone calls and my text but i can't get my data to work and when i click on the apns theres not thing and i am not able to adjust anything in there, if anyone can help it would be great, so pretty much the bell sims card works but i cant use my data and it says im roaming
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If you aren't outside of Canada and you get the roaming symbol; they can not charge you roaming fees.
Roger and Telus PLMN Compared
I'm not sure if this will help,
I have attached a picture of the PLMN from a Rogers sim and a Telus sim
Maybe someone knows how to adjust the information on these lists.
Dave778 said:
A fido tech rep told me that most unlocked phones indicate roaming because of the phones hardware programing. The hard programing of the phones checks the sim and sees that it is using a diff sim card and starts indicating roaming when in fact you are not. A rogers salesman also told me the same thing. He said as long as your carrier is displayed on your phone homescreen then you are good.
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The phone companies in Canada must be less uptight about unlocked/rooted phones
If you asked those questions to a t-mobile or at&t rep, they would straight up refuse to talk to you
American cell phone companies are still stuck in the "Ma Bell" mentality, where everything that touches their network must be under their control
anyone figure out a fix? I'm having these roaming issues as well on the bell network with unlocked at&t phone.
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
BiOs2k said:
I have Same probleme Here, Bell on a AT&T Tilt 2 phone, Always get Roaming message.
any registry edit or mod available to make it work without these message ?
thks
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I searched around to a fairly moderate extent and I have found many people with the same problem, yet I can't find any resolution to this issue.
I'm not even sure where the issue lays. Is it with the hardware/firmware? SIM card? Windows Mobile? Is it the rilphone.dll? or maybe some registry entry. Maybe it's on the Bell network side?
Someone told me they put a Rogers SIM into their Fuze and it didn't show up as roaming, yet when they put a Bell SIM in, it's back to roaming. So what's the difference between Bell and Rogers?
Here's a question for anyone who has this problem, when you boot android does it still show as roaming?
Got an x10 today off ebay, unlocked after browsing this forum, by htc-code, network shows carrier on home screen, signal shows 4 bars, yet in status it says mobile network state: disconnected, this results in me not being able to get any calls at all, not even a simple balance check, the sim card is pay&go whilst I sort it out but as far as I'm concerned it isn't a data plan issue or anything like that.
Just wondered whether this is an issue anyone knows anything about or whether it's been imei blocked or whether I should just get in touch with tesco.
possibly important info:
Tesco mobile
phone was locked to orange, now unlocked
firmware 1.6
baseband 1.1.25
kernel 2.6.29-rel semc-android semc #2
signal strength -85dbm 14asu
mobile network type utms
service state in service
mobile network state disconnected
Being a pay as you go, the SIM might need activating? Ring your Telco and see what they say.
The sim came out of another phone I've been using for the past 3 years I'll give them a call later to set up a data plan anyway.
Got hold of Tesco, they couldn't solve it, imei isn't blocked or anything, tried and Orange simcard (the network it was originally on) and that works and makes calls, my other sim doesn't make or recieve calls, so it looks like it hasn't been unlocked fully. I need to get hold of htc-code and try to figure out a solution, that is, when they're online. I'll post back with an outcome.
both my x10a and my nexus1 say the same thing, mobile network state disconnected, and my phones work great. i am on wifi now, but when i turn off wifi my phone has no issues with cellular data.
your phone must not be unlocked yet or you might not have entered your apn correctly. make sure the apn is correct for your network and try again
i just turned off wifi and waited for the 3g symbol to reappear and now my mobile network state reads connected. so this indicates if you are attached to the network for data only.
i would still make sure that you manually configure your networks apn settings and then try to make a call. i think i had an issue when i had flashed to a different firmware and had not entered my carriers info.
Thanks for the reply mate, I'll try that seeing as ferraripassion/sudarshan is offline I'll let you know how it goes.
Sort of fixed, manually entering APN puts up 3g symbol and changes mobile network state to connected, even on wap internet, but I still can't make or receive calls on this sim card :/
Thought I'd check the phone on checkmend this morning, although the phone does still work on an orange sim card, checkmend says
Ever blocked UK: This item has been blocked during its lifetime by one or more UK network(s).
IMEI Currently blocked: This item is currently blocked on one or more networks. It may still work on some networks.
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So, with that, does anyone have any advice on IMEI unblocking/people to contact and getting my cash back?
Write to matey boy on eBay and get money back. Because clearly, he's sold a non-working phone that's probably been nicked.
Greetings. I humbly submit the following problem to the high-IQ section of the forums.
A number of users are experiencing an issue where their roaming indicator is "stuck" always on despite being connected to their home carrier. The majority of these users are Bell and Telus users on the HSPA network which was unveiled in November 2009.
I searched around to a fairly high extent for the last month and I have found many people with the same problem, yet I can't find any resolution to this issue.
I'm personally experiencing this issue with my unlocked AT&T Fuze. Others are having the same issue with their unlocked Tilt 2s and Fuzes. Even odder, expanding beyond just Windows mobile, some android users are having the same issue. But ignoring the android users for the time being....
What conditions need to be met for a windows mobile phone to think that it is roaming?
I'm not even sure where the issue lays. Is it with the hardware/firmware? SIM card? Windows Mobile? Is it the rilphone.dll? The radio? some obscure registry entry? Maybe it's on the Bell network side? Some unholy combination of above factors?
When I put a Rogers SIM card into my Fuze it didn't show up as roaming, yet when I put a Bell SIM in, it showed up as roaming.
Bell has one official windows mobile phone in their HSPA lineup, the Samsung Omnia 2. When you take the same Bell SIM card out of the always roaming Fuze, and put it into the Omnia 2, it correctly shows NO roaming icon.
So what could the Omnia 2 have that fixes this roaming issue?
Any ideas where to start with this one?
only for reference, here are some threads regarding this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583227&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641299
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8132643#post8132643
Also, of course no one is actually being charged for their false roaming, the network sees the phone as it should and bills accordingly. Only the phone believes it is roaming. But many programs act differently when they detect that the phone is roaming, it's quite annoying.
Let me try to clarify the problem a bit.
These phones are being tested in Canada, well within the boundary of the Bell Mobility network.
Fuze
Situation 1 BAD
unlocked AT&T Fuze with Bell SIM card connected to the Bell Mobility network = Roaming.
Situation 2 GOOD
same unlocked AT&T Fuze with Rogers SIM card connected to the Rogers network = NOT Roaming.
Omnia II
Situation 3 GOOD
Bell branded Omnia II (Also Windows Mobile) with Bell SIM card connected to the Bell Mobility network = NOT Roaming.
Tilt 2
Situation 4 BAD
unlocked AT&T Tilt 2 with Bell SIM card connected to the Bell Mobility network = Roaming.
Situation 5 GOOD
same unlocked AT&T Tilt 2 with Rogers SIM card connected to the Rogers network = NOT Roaming.
Situations 1 and 4 can also be repeated with a Telus SIM card connected to the Telus network.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code#C
Could it be related to the fact that Bell and Telus share a Network?
My Bell MCCMNC is 302-610, while when I scan for networks it shows that I connect to the shared network 302-880. If it is the case, how does the OMNIA II overcome this?
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If you do a registry search and look for "MCCMNC" you should find the first one that is empty. I was looking this when my ATT card was inserted and it said 310410. There was an entry below that said the same.
When I put my telus card in the MCCMNC field is blank, but the one below still said the 310410.
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When I check the registry with my Bell SIM, the same entry is also blank:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction :MCCMNC
I tried to change value to 302880, but value was reset to 0 after soft-reset! of course roaming icon is still showing...
Any way to prevent the key from reverting?
Some people have claimed that flashing to certain stock ROMs will make the roaming indicator disappear - I tested this and found that while the Roaming icon does disappear, the phone still thinks it is roaming, so only the roaming icon is suppressed.
Any one have a suggestion of where to begin to tackle this one?
Well, I can't claim to know that much about roaming.
This is just a hunch, I have no evidence or tech reference to quote this from. I would personally suspect one of: (tower, phone radio, IMEI) / SIM combination.
I can think if "hunch" reasons for either of the above but I will not elaborate on them, as my technical knowledge of the exact workings are not enough to be useful. I know some Dutch users from a provider that was taken up by another provider are permanently roaming according to the device.
However, I am wondering about your statement "I tested this and found that while the Roaming icon does disappear, the phone still thinks it is roaming". How does this "still thinks it is roaming" show up? Do apps still think you are roaming?
If it is just the apps, it is probably possible to make this behaviour disappearing by patching the WM RIL layer. That's not an easy task, though.
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However, I am wondering about your statement "I tested this and found that while the Roaming icon does disappear, the phone still thinks it is roaming". How does this "still thinks it is roaming" show up? Do apps still think you are roaming?
If it is just the apps, it is probably possible to make this behaviour disappearing by patching the WM RIL layer. That's not an easy task, though.
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Thanks for the response.
What I mean by the statement is that in the notification bar at the top of the screen, there is no roaming icon, however, when I try to use an application, e.g. update the weather, the program will pop-up a warning that I am currently roaming.
Do you have any more information on patching the RIL?
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Thanks for the response.
What I mean by the statement is that in the notification bar at the top of the screen, there is no roaming icon, however, when I try to use an application, e.g. update the weather, the program will pop-up a warning that I am currently roaming.
Do you have any more information on patching the RIL?
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In that case it could probably be solved by patching the RIL. This is off the top of my head though.
As for how to do so, write a proxy RIL that calls the actual RIL, hijack the callbacks, remove the roaming flag. Something like that
I have two Fuzes and I was testing something on the second one when something strange happened. Let me try and explain.
I did a "full backup" using SPB Backup on Fuze A. Took out SIM card and put it into Fuze B and restored backup using "ROM upgrade" mode.
To my surprise, after I rebooted the Fuze B, there was no data roaming icon in the notification bar. We've seen this happen before on some stock ROMs but on those stock ROMs the phone would still think it is roaming if you try to update the weather or use other programs.
So I tried to update the weather, and it did not warn me that I was roaming! I then updated twitter and again no roaming warning! The phone was actually not in a roaming state!
This is when I noticed there were some severe problems with windows:
First, I cannot access the dialer. No way to make a phone call out.
Second, when I receive a call, the phone rings, but there is no way to answer as nothing shows up on screen and the hardware answer button does not work.
Third, in phone options, there is no network selected. Also, no operator string on the sense main screen. Usually displays "3G Bell". Further, the signal meter in the top bar usually shows the bars with an "H" when the data connection is active. Now it only shows a "!" instead. Despite this, the data connection works fine and the phone is not in a roaming state.
I'm not sure what SPB is wrecking when I do the restore, but it's interesting to have a working data connection and not be roaming.
samsung i900 roming solution
you all select your proper region to resolve the roming problem.....
go setting then system, then select regional settings, select your region
like english philippines...
finally restart your phone n u done........ thats all....
onenonlysubhash said:
you all select your proper region to resolve the roming problem.....
go setting then system, then select regional settings, select your region
like english philippines...
finally restart your phone n u done........ thats all....
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If only it were so simple
no one has found a solution for almost 2 years now. Most people have also moved onto new phones, so I don't think there will ever be a solution.
Hi, all. I moved from Australia to the US, and brought my GT-I9505 with me. I'm on an at&t sim, however if I look at my phone's "Network Operators," I'm unable to join the at&t network. Instead, I see that I'm connected to a network called Maritime. I've tried asking at&t for help here, and they've tried giving me APN settings, but nothing has enabled me to use the at&t network.
The AT&T network appears as an available network when I search for networks. But if I select it, I get a spinning wheel saying "Registering on AT&T" followed by a toast message that says 'Unable to connect. Try later."
For now, I'm happily on the Maritime network, which is actually a network here in California so that people on cruise ships get some signal. It's not a huge deal for now, but I have a suspicion that a day will come when this will become a problem.
I'm wondering if I need to change my modem, or my ROM in order for the phone to work correctly on the at&t network. Anyone have any ideas about that? On previous phones, I had rooted the phone, but with this one, I left it as stock and haven't changed a thing and thinking maybe there's some Australian software that is not compatible with AT&T? Thanks for your advice.
Thanks.
did you purchased a sim here? if you did you should go to the store where you activate it and ask the reps for help
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did you purchased a sim here? if you did you should go to the store where you activate it and ask the reps for help
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Yeah, that was the first thing I did. Then I called and spent an inordinate amount of time with tier 2 support, who eventually asked me if I could just live with it.
Hm, I've taken a few trips to the States with my i9505, and managed each time to roam on the at&t (and T-mobile) network without any issues. 3g worked well, and there were no dropped calls. That being said, my phone uses a Nordic, and not Australian, baseband, which I suspect might be the reason why everything's working here. In addition, I'm also using a custom ROM.
Okay, so I am on Verizon and I purchased the OnePlus 6T straight from OnePlus website. I have the 8gb ram and 256gb storage model. I have unlocked the bootloader but haven't installed a custom recovery or rooted yet. Just wanted to unlocked bootloader since it requires a wipe of device storage in case for the future.
Anyways, the phone works amassing, battery life is great, I had a pixel XL before this, screen is fantastic and is plenty fast but I have ran into an issue. The phone was activated on Verizon using Sim 1. Signal is not an issue, always have LTE from Verizon and way better signal than pixel XL ever had.
My issue is I live in a border town with Mexico and I just noticed that when I am close to the border, like within a mile the phone switches to Movistar cell provider. Movistar is a Mexican cell phone provider. Is not that I lost signal because my pixel XL had signal all over there before and the OnePlus 6T is stronger, is just that apparently the Movistar provider has a stronger signal on that area and the phone is choosing to pick up the stronger signal, even if it means going off and switching to roaming.
It doesn't cost me any $$ and speed is wicked fast while roaming but Verizon will only allow 0.5gb of roaming per day which limits the usability of the phone. Anyways, thanks for reading my long post, just wanted to give some context to the question and hopefully find an answer. Like i said, I did search and didn't find anything. If I have to root to install an add-on or an app that lets me pick my signal please advise. Also I know that I still have a strong Verizon signal because I used ltediscovery app to check and it shows the signal strength of whatever many signal phone is picking up.
Thanks in advance for reading and for answers.
One option might be Network Signal Guru in the Play Store (requires root). It's the only app I've found that allows the user to lock the phone to a specific band - which might help with your situation.
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One option might be Network Signal Guru in the Play Store (requires root). It's the only app I've found that allows the user to lock the phone to a specific band - which might help with your situation.
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Outstanding sir. Thanks for the information. I guess time to root then for me. Been waiting for a stable recovery for OnePlus 6T but I supposed no harm so far using current version of twrp, as far as I have read.
have you tried going to settings, internet, sim, sim1, network provider, disabling the automatic option and selecting your preferred provider manually? this way you will stick to that selection
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have you tried going to settings, internet, sim, sim1, network provider, disabling the automatic option and selecting your preferred provider manually? this way you will stick to that selection
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Either I do not have that option or I couldn't follow the steps.
When I go to settings, wifi & internet, Sim, sim1 then I see what is on the attached screenshot.
it seems you are missing some options
it should look like this: network operator
try to search for operator or network on the main options screen at the search bar on top.
if still no luck than maybe there is something wrong with your sim card or apn settings. you should try to contact OnePlus support than.
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it seems you are missing some options
it should look like this: network operator
try to search for operator or network on the main options screen at the search bar on top.
if still no luck than maybe there is something wrong with your sim card or apn settings. you should try to contact OnePlus support than.
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Mine does have network operator anywhere.
I look through all the settings and nowhere to be found. I am on Verizon network and only sim1 has a card in it.
Sim2 is empty.
I can get to the special settings through *#*#4636#*#* and even there changing different LTE settings keeps reconnecting to roaming network since the tower is like a stone through away.
Any other options would be greatly appreciated. Also the app that was suggested in 2nd post, rooted phone to try it and that option if it works is behind pay part and that app fee is $50/m. A bit steep for me so looking for options still.
Thanks in advance
Couldn't you just disable roaming?
AsuraDas said:
Couldn't you just disable roaming?
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I could but I only have an option for disabling data roaming, not roaming all together. I tried it in the past and all it did was kept me connected to the roaming network and turned off the data off of the roaming network connection. Meaning I had zero data connectivity.
I wonder if putting a Sim in sim2 slot would open up more settings ?
If anyone is using 6T on Verizon could you please go to wifi & network, sim1 and see if you get any more options than what I posted on previous ss about 3 post ago.
Thanks in advance
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Mine does have network operator anywhere.
I look through all the settings and nowhere to be found. I am on Verizon network and only sim1 has a card in it.
Sim2 is empty.
I can get to the special settings through *#*#4636#*#* and even there changing different LTE settings keeps reconnecting to roaming network since the tower is like a stone through away.
Any other options would be greatly appreciated. Also the app that was suggested in 2nd post, rooted phone to try it and that option if it works is behind pay part and that app fee is $50/m. A bit steep for me so looking for options still.
Thanks in advance
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do you have a carrier locked device? that might prevent you from doing changes to your sim.
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do you have a carrier locked device? that might prevent you from doing changes to your sim.
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I don't believe this is carrier locked since I bought straight from OnePlus website. Hell, I was even charge a currency conversion fee by my credit card cause the purchased was in foreign currency.
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I don't believe this is carrier locked since I bought straight from OnePlus website. Hell, I was even charge a currency conversion fee by my credit card cause the purchased was in foreign currency.
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you should try another sim (family or friends) and check if the missing option appears. maybe try your sim in another phone too.
lastly you could try a full factory reset (deletes all data)
at the end if it still does not work you really should call OnePlus for help.
also I found this app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pomo.android.networkoperators
open it and select "available networks"
that should open the missing menu to toggle operator selection...