Back in October there were a few rumors floating about about a cameraless droid pro becoming available. I currently have a business account with 13 iden hybrid phones with Sprint, and we've been thinking about moving over to Verizon. The job sites we work on do allow cell phones, but strictly disallow cameras, so we can't just buy camera phones and disable them in software. Cameraless droid pro phones would be ideal for us, as there is no other cameraless Android phone.
I've already called Verizon, and they don't seem to know.
Has anyone else heard of any ETA on these, or if they'll be available at all?
I wouldn't hold your breath and don't know where you were hearing that from. Any high end, mid end or even low end cell phone these days includes a camera or two.
You could simply open the phone and remove the camera sensor.
May I ask what field of work this is?
We're a contractor that works frequently in a shipyard that builds aircraft carriers and submarines, so cameras simply aren't allowed anywhere on site.
This is the source of the rumors:
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/28/cam...ming-for-those-ultra-secret-enterprise-users/
It's been reposted on many blogs.
I did get in contact with Motorola and they have no information, not that Verizon would let them disclose it anyway.
If they really want to target RIM with this phone they need to produce a cameraless version. Pretty much all of the blackberries are available sans camera, and plenty of people in the defense industry use them.
I thought about just removing the camera modules, but wouldn't that leave a hole in the back of the phone? Or is there a lens protector on the battery cover?
Yes there is a lens cover that is placed on the battery cover / door. I have rarely seen a blackberry without a camera that wasn't custom produced for an environment like the one you mentioned. Even blackberries from 3 years ago have cameras.
Although this phone is near perfect, physical keyboard, touch screen and an Android OS, the battery life is pretty weak unless you're using the extended battery and cover that can be purchased from Verizon stores.
From what I understand Blackberry phones are easily available without cameras. Look at Verizon's site, and select Blackberry smartphones. The 9650 is available without a camera and can be on your doorstep tomorrow. Sprint also sells a cameraless 9650, and it can be ordered right now. If Motorola doesn't step up, I'll probably just order one of those.
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From what I understand Blackberry phones are easily available without cameras. Look at Verizon's site, and select Blackberry smartphones. The 9650 is available without a camera and can be on your doorstep tomorrow. Sprint also sells a cameraless 9650, and it can be ordered right now. If Motorola doesn't step up, I'll probably just order one of those.
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I don't see one being released any time soon. I doubt Motorola is in a position to start producing phones without a camera as they attempt to capture as much market share as they can.
A smart phone without a camera is not on the minds of average consumers.
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Yes there is a lens cover that is placed on the battery cover / door. I have rarely seen a blackberry without a camera that wasn't custom produced for an environment like the one you mentioned. Even blackberries from 3 years ago have cameras.
Although this phone is near perfect, physical keyboard, touch screen and an Android OS, the battery life is pretty weak unless you're using the extended battery and cover that can be purchased from Verizon stores.
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I looked up the extended battery and cover, and it looks like there is just a hole for the camera, and no clear plastic lens cover built into the battery door. Can anyone confirm an actual clear lens cover on battery door, extended or otherwise? I'll have to stop by a store and check it out in person. If there's a clear lens cover, I could get these, disassemble them, remove the camera module and paint over the back of the lens cover.
Yes there is a plastic back to the battery cover. Here's a photo of the front and back of the phone. As you can see there is a plastic lens cover on the back plastic snap-in.
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Yes there is a plastic back to the battery cover. Here's a photo of the front and back of the phone. As you can see there is a plastic lens cover on the back plastic snap-in.
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Do you actually own one of these or are you just speculating? From all the pics I've seen, the camera/lens cover is part of the camera, or the back of the phone itself. I believe the battery door only has a big hole in it for that to poke through.
I remember reading it on engadget.
Apparenty, their was a screenshot of inventory stating a cameraless droid pro for business users.
I haven't read anything else on it after lol
I do know BB makes cameraless phones. They're all over the tmo and sprint stores. Don't know about verizon since I'm never near a verizon store for some reason lol
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I recall having seen cameraless Blackberrys on the VZW website before.
I also remember hearing about some website where you can mail in your iPhone and they will remove the camera for you. I wonder if a similar service exists for other phones.
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Do you actually own one of these or are you just speculating? From all the pics I've seen, the camera/lens cover is part of the camera, or the back of the phone itself. I believe the battery door only has a big hole in it for that to poke through.
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Yes I do own one of these. The entire back comes off...
The battery door does not have a lens that covers the camera. It's just a hole. Same on the extended door from vzw. No lens, just a hole.
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I've had my 8525 for about 2 months now, and in all the literature you see it mentions an 8500, but all this time I thought it was just a pre-production prototype, or just a way of refering to the Hermes based phone series. Well, I had my phone out yesterday at a meet and greet and a guy goes "I've got that same phone but without the camera". One thing led to another, and I shot some pictures of it.
Maybe you guys have seen them before, maybe not... maybe ya just don't care. Whatever, I thought it was interesting how they blacked out the camera and flash, while still keeping the camera button.
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Forgive me for asking, but is that phone supposed to be for folk who work in companies that have a rule against cameras. Otherwise it seems very shoddy to still have the button and camera frame etc but no camera! Surely a back could have been designed not to look completely daft with those camera bits and the button, it could have been rebadged to some other function.
Mike
The guy who had it was a contractor for the government, and certain areas he is in, they don't allow cameras of any kind. Until he got this phone, as you know, the only phones he could find were really crappy phones.
And, I agree they could've... but with the low production, and low demand for it, why bother? That is way better than the last non-camera phone he had.
I guess your right
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Believe it or not, the 8500 was released by cingular's B2B sales department about a month and a half before the 8525. I was in the Cingular corporate store here in austin (a friend works there) and I got to check one out. And yes you guys are right, its made for people who work in places where camera's aren't allowed, BUT since it still has the casing for the camera, many government offices still don't allow it!!! hahah, nice try cingular.
Also there was a report on one of the PPC blogs that if you open the device up, all you have to do is add a camera from a 8525 and your good to go, no other hardware mod's needed. Other than a back cover with a lens on it.
If the made the battery cover completely flat without the camera cover, it would have been more successful, but I guess they overlooked that.
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Also there was a report on one of the PPC blogs that if you open the device up, all you have to do is add a camera from a 8525 and your good to go, no other hardware mod's needed. Other than a back cover with a lens on it.
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Is there any source for that? (other than finding someone ditching a dead 8525?)
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Hey! I have the cingy 8500. Everything is the same as the 8525, just no camera. The camera button takes me straight to my pictures folder. fone_fanatic is correct. The phone *looks* like it still has a camera unless inspected a little closer. The bad thing, it still can't go where camera phones are not allowed (though, usually these places dont allow ANY phones anyway), the good thing, the phone CAN use extended life batteries. Seems all the extended life battery companies only make the back cover WITH the holes in it for the camera. If we didn't have the blank off stuff, we'd be out of luck in regards to extended batteries....
ps this is my first post... be gentle.
Alright, another Austinite!
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Believe it or not, the 8500 was released by cingular's B2B sales department about a month and a half before the 8525. I was in the Cingular corporate store here in austin (a friend works there) and I got to check one out. And yes you guys are right, its made for people who work in places where camera's aren't allowed, BUT since it still has the casing for the camera, many government offices still don't allow it!!! hahah, nice try cingular.
Also there was a report on one of the PPC blogs that if you open the device up, all you have to do is add a camera from a 8525 and your good to go, no other hardware mod's needed. Other than a back cover with a lens on it.
If the made the battery cover completely flat without the camera cover, it would have been more successful, but I guess they overlooked that.
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I will update this thread tonight with pictures and an in depth review. I was in a Canadian Best Buy close to work and saw this case below the tablet area. I had read mixed things about Acer rubbery case and got cold feet with my expensive PD Air order after reading some mixed reviews on their service.
The company is Riot Outfitters and the protective case is leather. I have opened it and so far it looks fantastic. Magnets for closing it and it can be configured into 2 stand up modes using a flap that collapses with a magnet at the back. The ports are all exposed with the one exception being the docking port. I will take pictures tonight and offer some more thoughts.
UPDATE: Sorry pictures and full review delayed as I had a family function to attend..tonight for sure...
As promised here are some pics and an additional comment based on a few days of use. My only other complaint (other than dock port being covered) is that the unit slips a bit when it is tilted in landscape mode (non volume side) as the magnetic slip over latch doesn't hold the unit completely in.
Here are some pics and ask away if you have any questions. The only other thing I forgot to mention was the price. The unit was $49.99 at the Canadian Best Buy.
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Looks like a promising alternative to the PDAir cases. However, it does seem very loose. Does it seem pretty secure to you?
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The slight slippage I was referring to only allows it to slip so far as the unit itself fits in snug at the center width. Undoing that clasp and purposely holding it up the unit does not slide out. However, with that said it is a bit loose in that one orientation and being leather it may get a bit looser but all in all I would rather have it a bit easier to get in and out versus what I have read about the Acer one which seems to hold it too tight. Also for $10 more you get something that is leather and doesn't smell like gasoline
I also don't think it would require much effort to rig it to make it fit completely snug and have some low cost ideas already but at this point I don't require it.
I also picked up this case and I've only found one issue with it. When using the tablet in landscape mode with the side that opens facing down, I've noticed that the tablet sides down somewhat and the case edge covers the ambient light sensor causing the screen to dim. I've even noticed this in portrait mode on occasion.
They should have put a notch in the side for the light sensor like they did for the front camera. Five minutes with a sharp exacto knife fixes the problem
Cant find this case
on Riots website?!
UPDATE: Added pics of Packaging including SKU/Part number above for those interested.
there is a GIANT problem with this case and with most other cases out there..
(I have one..)
It was designed to fit the device... upside down... chances are a person will 90% of the time use it in the "not to high" angle to kind of lay them with a good viewing angle so they can type while on their lap or on a desk..etc.
The problem is the whole device sits upside down when you put the device into this sleeve.
This wouldn't be an issue if the rotation worked as its supposed to but its currently extremely buggy in HC, games will always display in the original ladnscape mode so using this case, they'll appear upside down.
Also... there is that horrible bug in honeycomb where all other rotations perform like garbage... so that really annoyed me.
I solved this by cutting the proper holes for the device to fit in rotated by 180 degrees.
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I even sent them an email sing if they planned on releasing this in Best Buy in the US. No reply as of yet..
Got a reply from them today and its as follows:
Tom,
We do have that case available for sale.
The cost is $19.99, the only problem is we can not process a credit card at this time for this item because it is not on our site.
I can process an order 2 ways, one you can order something for equal price from our website and when the order comes through I will see your name and send the Acer Tablet. Or the other way is to send us a check.
Let me know if you are interested in either of the above options and I will make sure that you get your order.
If you would like to call me to discuss details let me know and I will give you my direct line phone number.
Thank you
Tanya
Riot Outfitters Customer Service
Sounds like an awful lot of crap to deal with just to purchase an accessory for my tablet. Especially one that will require modification to hold the tablet right side up and fit snugly...
Sounds like an awful lot of crap to deal with just to purchase an accessory for my tablet. Especially one that will require modification to hold the tablet right side up and fit snugly...
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True, but for $20 you are getting something that doesn't smell like gasoline
I just keep brightness on manual so the lack of the brightness sensor being obscured for me personally has been a non factor...so I have done no cutting and the only thing I did was add a clasp which cost me $2 so the unit is completely snug. I can post some pictures but agreed it is post purchase. I am confident the PD Air is a better case...much better but also much more expensive.
i wasnt offered a purchase deal from Riot/Tanya in the email she replied to me. she just said they were looking at getting it sold in US Retail stores but nothing right now.
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i wasnt offered a purchase deal from Riot/Tanya in the email she replied to me. she just said they were looking at getting it sold in US Retail stores but nothing right now.
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Hell, it'd be nice to just be able to order one from their website, can't even do that. That may be why she offered me a shot at it. My problem is the part about ordering something else, paying for it and then hoping the monkeys in the packaging/shipping department sent the right item. Don't know that I really wish to deal with the headache if they screw it up.
So I, like many others, am looking to buy a nexus 4 for Christmas. The lack of LTE means nothing to me as I'm in the UK and can't afford it anyway, so it seems like a pretty sweet deal, however one thing is bothering me...
Many reviews have shown that the back glass can crack relatively easily, and while usually I wouldn't call this a deal breaker, I had a horrible realisation. The nexus 4 is designed in such a way that the back glass acts seamlessly as the cameras lens cover, so if the back cracks, there is a fair chance that the crack could go right down the middle of the camera. Furthermore, like the nexus 7, the back cover actually has components on it, so it may not be a cheap or easy replacement.
I would hate to have my camera ruined because of a poor design choice. So has anyone seen anything around that may reassure me? Is the lens cover a separate piece of glass and it just looks continuous? Or does this seem like a real issue?
The strange seamless camera cover looks cool but may turn out to be a problem.
Good point here.. I really hate putting covers on my phones but in this case... I think I should..
The phone is fairly large as it is, a case just to avoid the camera cracking because of poor design is really disheartening for me
I see what you mean. They should've put a rim around the camera lens separating the two, as they did for the flash...
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I wouldn't worry - that glass isnt the camera lens, its a bit of glass *above* the lens. The lens is the little round thing you see underneath.
It a crack goes straight through the middle of it, it would make minimal, if any, difference to photos, except maybe some loss of light gathering.
Wouldn't be the lens that cracks, only the lens front element. In photography in general, front elements can be quite beat up without producing any visible clues what so ever on the resulting images. Check out this web page: kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
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I wouldn't worry - that glass isnt the camera lens, its a of glass *above* the lens. The lens is the little round thing you see underneath.
It a crack goes straight through the middle of it, it would make minimal, if any, difference to photos, except maybe some loss of light gathering.
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Apologies I should have made the thread title clearer, I meant the lens cover.
Nice to know it shouldn't make too much difference. I guess if the crack is thick enough to make a difference then I'd probably get a replacement under insurance anyway.
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Wouldn't be the lens that cracks, only the lens front element. In photography in general, front elements can be quite beat up without producing any visible clues what so ever on the resulting images. Check out this web page: kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
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Thanks for the link! Again as with above I should change the title, I didn't mean the lens I meant the cover. I didn't realise it makes such little difference though. Thanks
I was thinking of a similar issue for the screen. I read somewhere that the glass and the digitizer in this phone aren't two different layer on the actual pixels, but one. Thats make the screen more vivid as the pixels are closer to the glass.
So if we crack the gorilla glass, automatically the touch screen will be unusable. Am I right?
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that's exactly what happened with the verge's review nexus - in the video they say the back cracked after a fall, and the crack is very close to the camera, pic here: linky
in this case the camera was not affected but the rim of the flash probably makes that area of the glass weaker.
Just don't drop it, I guess
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good point, didnt think about that
im sure it wont be a big problem though. if it is, theyll probably sell alternate back plates... if...
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good point, didnt think about that
im sure it wont be a big problem though. if it is, theyll probably sell alternate back plates... if...
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I'd have thought they would for the Nexus 7 to be honest but that hasn't happened yet. At least not easily. But yeah, if it does become a problem hopefully there will be enough pressure for them to start manufacturing and selling replacements.
Didn't even notice that. Reinforces my thoughts of getting a good case.
Any phone can be smashed, that's what's insurance is for.
FYI, the reason they have the rim around the flash is so that it doesn't cause the "flashback" problem and interfere with your pictures. If you've had an iPhone and didn't have a case with the larger camera/flash cutout or the black ring around the inside of the cutout, you know what I'm talking about. The flash can actually wash out pictures. The rim around the flash on the Nexus 4 solves this problem by isolating the flash from the camera lens.
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I always keep my G4 in a clear tpu case, but when I took it out of the case to change the battery, I dropped it, and I cracked the lens cover. I was terrified at first since one of the main reasons I bought the phone was for the camera. But, after I took the battery cover off and looked at the camera lens housing, it appeared that the lens housing would come off pretty easily.
So I went on ebay and found a $15 "OEM" replacement cover.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151794398884?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Who knows if it's actually an LG part, but I put the replacement on last night:
I accidentally ordered a gray colored one instead of the silver, but I think it looks fine.
The only issue I ran into was getting the part back into place. I can only tell you that you need to put the top of the piece in first, and work your way down.
PS: Wow, I just realized how different those pics look. The first pic (the cracked pic) was taken with another G4, and the 2nd pic (the repaired pic) was taken with an iPhone 6s. The shot taken with the 6s really misrepresents the case/color of the phone.
The question here is how did you take the photo with the 6S ?
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I always keep my G4 in a clear tpu case, but when I took it out of the case to change the battery, I dropped it, and I cracked the lens cover
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Its kinda ironic that this happens only when it was out of the case. which case was it btw ?
Could have been worse and been the screen.
I accidentally ordered a gray colored one instead of the silver, but I think it looks fine.
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You ordered the silver one instead of gold.
But otherwise well done. its easy to repair this thing
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The question here is how did you take the photo with the 6S ?
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i turned the knob. it's cumbersome, but it was a design choice.
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i turned the knob. it's cumbersome, but it was a design choice.
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I think the point is that the 6s was only just announced yesterday and won't be available for pre order until this weekend/next week?
Mr. Pedantic is highlighting that you meant 6 Plus??
Ps. I spotted that too and wished I was the first to pick it up ?
To keep this post somewhat on topic. I have to say one of the reasons I bought this phone was because of the iFixit review highlighting how easy it is to repair. My last phone (HTC One M8) basically required i remove the screen from the case and then split the screen from the circuit board to get to the stuff I needed to repair.... Well that went so wrong I had to buy a new phone...
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I think the point is that the 6s was only just announced yesterday and won't be available for pre order until this weekend/next week?
Mr. Pedantic is highlighting that you meant 6 Plus??
Ps. I spotted that too and wished I was the first to pick it up ?
To keep this post somewhat on topic. I have to say one of the reasons I bought this phone was because of the iFixit review highlighting how easy it is to repair. My last phone (HTC One M8) basically required i remove the screen from the case and then split the screen from the circuit board to get to the stuff I needed to repair.... Well that went so wrong I had to buy a new phone...
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My bad. The 6s was on my brain
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I have to say one of the reasons I bought this phone was because of the iFixit review highlighting how easy it is to repair. My last phone (HTC One M8) basically required i remove the screen from the case and then split the screen from the circuit board to get to the stuff I needed to repair.... Well that went so wrong I had to buy a new phone...
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Definitely, ease of repair is a selling point with this device. Not one that is mentioned very often by reviewers who only want to praise or bash the designers that only come into the picture after the engineers are done with their work.
I think the LG engineers who built this this thing should be proud
There used to be another korean company that until recently had the same philosophy, sadly they seemed to have lost their way this year. Was playing with various S6 variants in the shop yesterday and i hate the way the camera lens protrudes from the back, that lens is just begging to be scratched, smudged or cracked. but no, thin is in (!), its got a glass back so thin and slippery is a good recipe for dropping. Will be much harder to fix that thing by yourself.
Gross!!
I don't know what that is, but my front camera is full of things like dust. I have never seen things get in the front camera
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Here is normal rear camera photo
With front camera, it is all blurry and ****
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I just realized it after a week or so, it was kept indoor 100%
Could be residule dust in the housing being knocked about and ending up on the cam lens from static. Sorry to see that on your week old device man
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Gross!!
I don't know what that is, but my front camera is full of things like dust. I have never seen things get in the front camera.
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If it's any consolation, my little Jiayu G4S has exactly the same problem with BOTH cameras. I've come to expect it from these relatively cheap phones. I'm also fairly good at taking my Jiayu apart now - looks like I'll be doing the same with this one too soon
Also, after just a week my back cover is very creaky indeed. I think I've taken it on and off six times to swap SIM cards etc. My Jiayu is a solid as the day I got it almost two years ago.
do you know how long from launch it normally takes for genuine battery covers to hit the market? The wife wants a pink one however I have never owned a xiaomi before so never followed their release times for accessories.
Same dust here :/
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Same dust here :/
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That's really frustrating
people say there are holes between the 3.5mm phone jack and the camera, that's where the dust came from.
Yes, my back cover is not tightly fit, the battery is the same. People call me insane, but I could feel the battery rocking left and right when I shake it hard.
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People call me insane, but I could feel the battery rocking left and right when I shake it hard.
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Yeah, same for me. Had not noticed it before, but that's not anything major though. I'm more concerned about the dust in camera, although I don't have this problem yet (and I hope I won't).
This made me remember a problem with LG P500 when dust would get under the digitizer.
After a week no problems (Prime 32GB)
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do you know how long from launch it normally takes for genuine battery covers to hit the market? The wife wants a pink one however I have never owned a xiaomi before so never followed their release times for accessories.
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htt p://www .aliexpress dot com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-battery-case-Original-High-Quality-Protective-Battery-Case-Back-Cover-For-Xiaomi/32448421724.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.71.8mhZbK&ws_ab_test=201526_5,201527_3_71_72_73_74_75,201409_1
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do you know how long from launch it normally takes for genuine battery covers to hit the market? The wife wants a pink one however I have never owned a xiaomi before so never followed their release times for accessories.
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There is a dealer called "Xiaomi Home" on Aliexpress who apparently offers these. Whether "Xioami Home" is an official subsidiary of Xiaomi, well, who knows. But anyway, supposedly original Xioami back cases are available at http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100-Original-XIAOMI-Redmi-Note-2-Case-Protective-Cover-Case-For-Redmi-Note-2-phone-case/811568_32446023315.html. Not all colors are available at this time. They also have a supposedly original Xiaomi protective flip cases listed at http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/New-arrivel-Original-XIAOMI-Redmi-Note-2-Case-Flip-Protective-Cover-Case-For-Redmi-Note-2/811568_32446027248.html.
I noticed I have similar dust like things under front camera hole I think they were not there when I just received phone. Seems like dust came from somewhere, any ideas what we could do with this sh.t?
If it's coming through the headphone jack like some people suggested, you could try getting a can of compressed air and spraying into the head phone jack, should unseat the dust without damaging any components.
Possible fix..
My RM Note 2 had this problem too!! After 4 days! If you blow in the headphone port the ff camera steams up.. So that's definitely the problem. I fixed it quite simply.. Took the phone apart.. (easy for anyone with basic phone tools and a little experience..) Just took the shielding off, no need to remove motherboard.. Then lifted FF camera module out and used a very lint free cloth to get rid of any dust etc..
I then used a tiny tiny bit of blutac to form a gasket around the camera module, making sure that no Blutac is visible through the front of the phone.. Pressed the module in to place gently, and did the blow test to check it was successful.. And yes! 2 days later and no dust at all.. It's just a slight design oversight.. The camera housing isn't well sealed enough.
Hope this might be helpful to some.. It's probably not very well explained.. Sorry. Annoying to have to do this on a brand new device.. But my HTC one M8 had a similar problem.. Can't be fixed.. And it cost £550.. So an easy fix on an otherwise flawless and awesome £100 device is very forgivable.
This probably ends your warranty and could well break something especially if you don't really know what you're doing. I'm not responsible for thermonuclear war or anything do with your phone. Proceed with caution at your own risk.
Regards, happy Chinese bargain buying!
Josh
Joshtp said:
My RM Note 2 had this problem too!! After 4 days! If you blow in the headphone port the ff camera steams up.. So that's definitely the problem. I fixed it quite simply.. Took the phone apart.. (easy for anyone with basic phone tools and a little experience..) Just took the shielding off, no need to remove motherboard.. Then lifted FF camera module out and used a very lint free cloth to get rid of any dust etc..
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Josh
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I think if you took some pic when taking the phone apart would be great. I want to do this , too. But I have only replace the touchpanel before. and I don't know where to pry...
Still no problems.
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i hope that xiaomi will fix this problem in a future release...who knows..
If you see dust on the front camera, try put your mouth over the 3.5 jack and start to aspire with force. The dust will magically disappear
However dust doesn't affect photo quality