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Taking this baby apart....

hey everybody i got a G1 the black one and one of my buddies just got the brown one that tmobile started selling and i am so wishing i had gotten that one. The finish on it is i think much higher quality than the black one. So i was wondering if anyone has taken apart a G1 yet and if it would be hard to do the conversion. I wonder if tmobile will do a replacement on the phone so i can change color....

WTF are you asking about a conversion?

I'm on 5 different g1 forums and haven't heard of anyone taking their's apart yet. I would assume it would be a tough task to switch out from black to brown casing. Maybe possible though...

i dont understand. what are you swapping? swapping his case and yours? why dont you just trade phones.

its just a question anyway i went to tmobile and they replaced it for the white one with no problems...so im happy now. But i was just wondering if anyone had taken a G1 apart

Freelancerx said:
its just a question anyway i went to tmobile and they replaced it for the white one with no problems...so im happy now. But i was just wondering if anyone had taken a G1 apart
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hey i was wondering if you had to pay to switch the casing to white?

I think they just swapped out his phone for him.

Mi|enko said:
I think they just swapped out his phone for him.
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oh i thought so. thanks

hi, i took mine apart, was sick of it creaking and the screen not being tight on the device.
wasn't brave enough to take the components off the housing though (yet!).
once you get the outer shell around the battery (once battery cover is removed), it's all there for the taking. a wire either side connects seperate pcbs.
quite a few screws, and just undoing one by the microsd slot, the housing pops apart, so stopped doing that lol!
the whole thing is plastic, with a metal sheet under where the battery goes. all pretty flimsy stuff. there doesnt appear to be a screw on the pivot pin so dont know how that comes off or tightens. and unless there's a hole through to screen housing, how do you get the final fourth screw off as its hidden by keyboard?
will take a photo tomorrow if i can be bothered to open it again, but as i say. all pretty flimsy stuff. hence why if you look down the line where the volume rocker is, you should see the case is 'bowed' just from taking the battery cover on and off!
the keyboard surround should have been made of steel or something stronger.

i actually did take it apart once~~i also manage to not break the VOID sticker~~its not that hard~~as the way i see it the housing should be able to swap with no problem~~

replacement housings have hit eBay, might want to give a look at the individual components for the answers on how to disassemble:
http://tinyurl.com/5rkwjk
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anyone have a DIY to take off the front/bottom plates?

I wonder if I could pop the keys out of a black dummy phone and put them in the bronze G1?
I'm sick of those damn invisible keys.

orochidp said:
I wonder if I could pop the keys out of a black dummy phone and put them in the bronze G1?
I'm sick of those damn invisible keys.
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I would love to do the same!!! That would make my phone perfect...bronze G1, rooted rc30v1.2, with keys I can see!!!

buyers remorse = 14 days
Freelancerx said:
hey everybody i got a G1 the black one and one of my buddies just got the brown one that tmobile started selling and i am so wishing i had gotten that one. The finish on it is i think much higher quality than the black one. So i was wondering if anyone has taken apart a G1 yet and if it would be hard to do the conversion. I wonder if tmobile will do a replacement on the phone so i can change color....
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you can return it for 14 day "buyers remorse" and get the bronze one... its not bad it almost black as I recall from opening day when I bought mine but I went for black since my first choice was the white and there were no white ones atleast in my area, (philly metro)
bhang
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as a general rule I dont like to take sh1t apart thats still covered for defects by the OEM...but thats just me.

[Android Phone Teardown] Chassis Pried Open [Part 1]
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[Android Phone Teardown] Antenna in Camouflage [Part 2]
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20081028/160259
[Android Phone Teardown] Panasonic-branded Main Board [Part 3]
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20081028/160267
[Android Phone Teardown] 2nd Vibration Motor Found [Part 4]
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20081029/160336
[Android Phone Teardown] G1 Uses Same Trackball as BlackBerry [Part 5]
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20081030/160466

none of these tell you how to take off the front face plate and the chin piece..
and it looks like a pain in the butt ..haha

I googled taking apart g1 and seen a youtube video of some chinese guy taking the g1 apart from start to finish the video is 2 parts

well my brown housing is on its way, although i do have a black version here for sale, but that has been updated (im tempted to keep it as a) im selling it for the 3rd time on ebay due to fraud! b) the black keyboard is soooo much better than the ****ty white one on mine!).
2nd vibrate motor by lcd, surely you can conclude this was for haptic feedback!?

G1 Torx Size
What size torx is needed for the G1 Screws? I got a black keyboard that I want to put into my phone.

New design on case. Cracks no more!!!

Don't know if this is old news but I just have to speak out my joy. Got my phone back after replacing my case the second time. And finally they have redesigned the case. Hopfully there will be no more cracks on this spot anymore
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what awful crack!...

Strange that the "new" redesigned case has date of manufacture -> 08w39 and the "old" cracked one is -> 08w44... Could it be that they knew it all the time that these cracks will be happening, but instead of mass recall the "cracky" cases they sold all of that saying "What will be will be...."

kaitosan said:
Strange that the "new" redesigned case has date of manufacture -> 08w39 and the "old" cracked one is -> 08w44... Could it be that they knew it all the time that these cracks will be happening, but instead of mass recall the "cracky" cases they sold all of that saying "What will be will be...."
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Thats because it is a sticker on the phone. Not the case.

somehow i dont think its the redesign issue, something else thats unknown must be the problem, my xperia date is 09W08 with the same design as the second pic, still no cracks...

Uh... where's the difference in the design? Can't really tell.

Had a crack in the same place, and now also have the "new" redesign case replacement.

MattKeating said:
Had a crack in the same place, and now also have the "new" redesign case replacement.
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When was this?

ipporek said:
Uh... where's the difference in the design? Can't really tell.
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No sharp corner in the new design. The first thing you learn to not have when you study design. Everyone learns that except the tossers at SE

Paitor said:
No sharp corner in the new design. The first thing you learn to not have when you study design. Everyone learns that except the tossers at SE
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yeah bro SE has the worst designs...

Does somebody have the old design on pic without the crack so it will be easier to see?
Edit: Fixed it. Nobody can miss the difference now.

if you look closely you can see the difference. the corner where the crack starts is different from the one without the crack. the corner is filleted (ie. rounded) where as the corner with the crack is pointed.
i was gonna wait before i send my x1 to get the housing replaced. i didn't see why people would send the phone in for repairs when SE haven't even come up with a redesigned housing yet and just end up getting cracks all over again. but now, it seems like a good time to do so. btw, i've counted a total of 8 cracks on my x1.

azian_advanced said:
if you look closely you can see the difference. the corner where the crack starts is different from the one without the crack. the corner is filleted (ie. rounded) where as the corner with the crack is pointed.
i was gonna wait before i send my x1 to get the housing replaced. i didn't see why people would send the phone in for repairs when SE haven't even come up with a redesigned housing yet and just end up getting cracks all over again. but now, it seems like a good time to do so. btw, i've counted a total of 8 cracks on my x1.
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Good choice. This was my second time I had it on service for a cracked case and if you put it all togehter (had it on service three times) I have had my phone on service for 63 days. That's 2 months on a phone that isn't a year old yet.

time to repair
I have the problem where my phone won't charge unless it's turned off.
But now I also have the cracked case problem.... So I think it is time to repair.
I really love the phone... but at that price, I expect better quality. I just hope they don't keep it too long.

spikegotti said:
somehow i dont think its the redesign issue, something else thats unknown must be the problem, my xperia date is 09W08 with the same design as the second pic, still no cracks...
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When did u purchase ur X1...!!!
Even im Curious to purchase a Black X1 , and when ever i see the issues of cracks i step back.
Waiting for ur advise and suggestions .
Plz guide me coz after such an investment issue's like cracks will be very troublesome.
Thanx
JackBenson

looks like I have the "old" design and no cracks in almost 5 months

lol I see no difference whatsoever. BTW, your's new Xperia has chrome chipping off of it.

poetryrocksalot said:
lol I see no difference whatsoever. BTW, your's new Xperia has chrome chipping off of it.
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It is two pictures of two old xperia phones. One pic that i found on this forum and one that i shoot of mine, with the new case, in almost the same angel so it would be easy to see the difference.
It amazes me that you cant see the rounded corner in the middle of the lower picture

DatDereX1 said:
looks like I have the "old" design and no cracks in almost 5 months
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You are a lucky man. Please tell my how you do it. Is your phone always lying on a pillow on your desk with a bluetooth headset connected to it? Have you not even once dropped it 2 decimeters onto a soft rug?

Paitor said:
You are a lucky man. Please tell my how you do it. Is your phone always lying on a pillow on your desk with a bluetooth headset connected to it? Have you not even once dropped it 2 decimeters onto a soft rug?
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I have the old design.
I have dropped mine more than 10 times. 3 of them hard falls. Not a crack or a scratch on it. I use it all the time, in my pocket, on the desk, in my hand, etc.

[I9000][I9000B][MOD] Camera Glass (replace scratched one)

[IM NOT RESPONSABLE BOUT PROBLEMS OR DAMAGES IN YOUR DEVICE USING THIS PROCEDURES!]
Im a photo enthusiast and i take a lot of care about my Nikon camera and its lenses to ensure its exelent quality and functionality. With my SGS I9000B isn't different!
I saw some dust inside my lenses and decided to clean it up because it interfere directly on the image quality.
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In the cleaning process i scratched my SGS lenses from inside! (yes, using twizzers+loose cotton). Was a bad idea.
Thinking bout a replacement of entire housing, didnt find it at eBay because I9000B has a Digital TV antenna and a hole for it. Its a special housing.
Decided then to buy another international housing to take only the lenses, but no money at my paypal account :-(.
Without money, finally decided to take apart my dead Nokia N95-1 and use its CarlZeiss Vario Tessar lenses!!!!!
After opening the SGS again, take that steel frame that protects and decorates the camera lens was a boring process. Three bent fins through the housing, which are hidden by a plastic cover:
After removing this frame, I saw the lens is very well glued to the plastic. Which requires some work with tweezers to avoid damaging the substrate that has outline (it was used as a guide to the size of the new lens).
After that, I put a lens on the other (the N95 but is wider, same thickness) and made the cuts using a sharp scissors.
So now just put everything in place, clean the lens again, polishing and close the device.
Not intend to leave this lens for a long time. Only until i can buy the official Samsung (taken from a new housing).
This Nokia does not have enough glue to adhere to the plastic housing. This little space between the lens and the plastic inferfere directly in autofocus and the inhibition of reflexes = photo as ****!
The results:
Photo taken with SGS I9000B with my new lenses:
Hope this helps people that as me didnt found anything bout Samsung Galaxy I9000/I9000B camera glasses/lenses replace.
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Very nice guide

this is nice very very nice hardware mod =)
i was wondering myself how to 'refresh' that lens

Awesome but I dont think its simple to play with hardware, I think ill do it when my sgs is very old. Its just 6 months old right now.
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BHuvan goyal said:
Awesome but I dont think its simple to play with hardware, I think ill do it when my sgs is very old. Its just 6 months old right now.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium
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Yes. Like all hardware mods in PCs, Game consoles, notebook systems or IT generally, some electronic/engineer knowledge and creativity are very appreciated.
Or, assume all the risks trying "blindly" the procedures(for me, the best way to learn something by yourself).

Great info, thanks!

Does anybody have any idea weather there is a way of polishing that lens? My phone is already a year and a half old and the picture quality is really really bad, since I was not taking care and had my phone in pocket with keys and everything all the time
I was thinking of some method like used for polishing front lights on cars. Do you think it would work?

Never never try the polishing! I've tried today but i fu**ed the lens and the photos was blurred. But i had an "old" nokia 5610, changed the lens and now the photos are too much better, almost like new!

where to buy a camera glass.
i have been using this phone for a long time and now a few days back during a trip i got some scratched on the camera glass at the back and now i am unable to have any good picture.
so can someone tell me how can i replace this one with a newer or where i can buy this size camera glass.

Thanks man cool experience!!!

Wow I just found some use for my dead N95 Now I just need to decide if I dare to take apart my beloved phone... The lense is in a REALLY bad shape tho

hasanalikhattak said:
i have been using this phone for a long time and now a few days back during a trip i got some scratched on the camera glass at the back and now i am unable to have any good picture.
so can someone tell me how can i replace this one with a newer or where i can buy this size camera glass.
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You can buy @ ebay a full housing kit (which comes with brand new OEM samsung lenses) or just a back plate.
The tutorial to change is found at the first post.

Xiaomi Quality again (Front Camera)

Gross!!
I don't know what that is, but my front camera is full of things like dust. I have never seen things get in the front camera
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Here is normal rear camera photo
With front camera, it is all blurry and ****

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I just realized it after a week or so, it was kept indoor 100%

Could be residule dust in the housing being knocked about and ending up on the cam lens from static. Sorry to see that on your week old device man

asian_xl said:
Gross!!
I don't know what that is, but my front camera is full of things like dust. I have never seen things get in the front camera.
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If it's any consolation, my little Jiayu G4S has exactly the same problem with BOTH cameras. I've come to expect it from these relatively cheap phones. I'm also fairly good at taking my Jiayu apart now - looks like I'll be doing the same with this one too soon
Also, after just a week my back cover is very creaky indeed. I think I've taken it on and off six times to swap SIM cards etc. My Jiayu is a solid as the day I got it almost two years ago.

do you know how long from launch it normally takes for genuine battery covers to hit the market? The wife wants a pink one however I have never owned a xiaomi before so never followed their release times for accessories.

Same dust here :/

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Same dust here :/
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That's really frustrating

people say there are holes between the 3.5mm phone jack and the camera, that's where the dust came from.
Yes, my back cover is not tightly fit, the battery is the same. People call me insane, but I could feel the battery rocking left and right when I shake it hard.

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People call me insane, but I could feel the battery rocking left and right when I shake it hard.
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Yeah, same for me. Had not noticed it before, but that's not anything major though. I'm more concerned about the dust in camera, although I don't have this problem yet (and I hope I won't).
This made me remember a problem with LG P500 when dust would get under the digitizer.

After a week no problems (Prime 32GB)
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Kenneth131 said:
do you know how long from launch it normally takes for genuine battery covers to hit the market? The wife wants a pink one however I have never owned a xiaomi before so never followed their release times for accessories.
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htt p://www .aliexpress dot com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-battery-case-Original-High-Quality-Protective-Battery-Case-Back-Cover-For-Xiaomi/32448421724.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.71.8mhZbK&ws_ab_test=201526_5,201527_3_71_72_73_74_75,201409_1

Kenneth131 said:
do you know how long from launch it normally takes for genuine battery covers to hit the market? The wife wants a pink one however I have never owned a xiaomi before so never followed their release times for accessories.
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There is a dealer called "Xiaomi Home" on Aliexpress who apparently offers these. Whether "Xioami Home" is an official subsidiary of Xiaomi, well, who knows. But anyway, supposedly original Xioami back cases are available at http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/100-Original-XIAOMI-Redmi-Note-2-Case-Protective-Cover-Case-For-Redmi-Note-2-phone-case/811568_32446023315.html. Not all colors are available at this time. They also have a supposedly original Xiaomi protective flip cases listed at http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/New-arrivel-Original-XIAOMI-Redmi-Note-2-Case-Flip-Protective-Cover-Case-For-Redmi-Note-2/811568_32446027248.html.

I noticed I have similar dust like things under front camera hole I think they were not there when I just received phone. Seems like dust came from somewhere, any ideas what we could do with this sh.t?

If it's coming through the headphone jack like some people suggested, you could try getting a can of compressed air and spraying into the head phone jack, should unseat the dust without damaging any components.

Possible fix..
My RM Note 2 had this problem too!! After 4 days! If you blow in the headphone port the ff camera steams up.. So that's definitely the problem. I fixed it quite simply.. Took the phone apart.. (easy for anyone with basic phone tools and a little experience..) Just took the shielding off, no need to remove motherboard.. Then lifted FF camera module out and used a very lint free cloth to get rid of any dust etc..
I then used a tiny tiny bit of blutac to form a gasket around the camera module, making sure that no Blutac is visible through the front of the phone.. Pressed the module in to place gently, and did the blow test to check it was successful.. And yes! 2 days later and no dust at all.. It's just a slight design oversight.. The camera housing isn't well sealed enough.
Hope this might be helpful to some.. It's probably not very well explained.. Sorry. Annoying to have to do this on a brand new device.. But my HTC one M8 had a similar problem.. Can't be fixed.. And it cost £550.. So an easy fix on an otherwise flawless and awesome £100 device is very forgivable.
This probably ends your warranty and could well break something especially if you don't really know what you're doing. I'm not responsible for thermonuclear war or anything do with your phone. Proceed with caution at your own risk.
Regards, happy Chinese bargain buying!
Josh

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My RM Note 2 had this problem too!! After 4 days! If you blow in the headphone port the ff camera steams up.. So that's definitely the problem. I fixed it quite simply.. Took the phone apart.. (easy for anyone with basic phone tools and a little experience..) Just took the shielding off, no need to remove motherboard.. Then lifted FF camera module out and used a very lint free cloth to get rid of any dust etc..
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Josh
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I think if you took some pic when taking the phone apart would be great. I want to do this , too. But I have only replace the touchpanel before. and I don't know where to pry...

Still no problems.
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i hope that xiaomi will fix this problem in a future release...who knows..

If you see dust on the front camera, try put your mouth over the 3.5 jack and start to aspire with force. The dust will magically disappear
However dust doesn't affect photo quality

My Z5c has a Non-Frosted but Glossy back

I'm just curious. How come my Z5C has a glossy back, as far as I have researched on the internet, it only has 1 version with a frosted glass back.
Anyone has any idea? :s
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yea i have it also its called a screen protector on the back.

RiTCHiE007 said:
yea i have it also its called a screen protector on the back.
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Thanks for the reply, but mine I dont think it's a screen protector, I cant find the egdes.
For yours, was it placed there by sony or you put it there?

Its frosted, like everyone's are, period. Admins, this one deserves a lock because there's not point in have these kind of conversations again...

bubimir13 said:
Its frosted, like everyone's are, period. Admins, this one deserves a lock because there's not point in have these kind of conversations again...
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Sorry, But I dont think this looks like frosted glass at all.

That backside doesn't look like mine for sure.

If this is an issue to you, return it to Sony or call customer service........very simple

Did you buy a secondhand phone? Seems like it was replaced

Looks like a screen protector. Can you feel the raised edges of the plastic sides or camera lens? If not it's most definitely a protector. All the replacement backs I've found have been frosted.

I admire the skill of the guy that put that screen protector (if is one).

I believe the back cover has been replaced since there is no sign of a screen protector. But what kind of manufacturer manufacts fake cover that looks nothing like the real one...

I replaced my back cover due to a scratched lens cover, which is glossy as opposed to frosted, so agree with suggestions that it could have been replaced at some point.

wazmeister05 said:
I replaced my back cover due to a scratched lens cover, which is glossy as opposed to frosted, so agree with suggestions that it could have been replaced at some point.
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Do you have a link to one? I would love a glossy back.

civicsr2cool said:
Do you have a link to one? I would love a glossy back.
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Sure thing! I'll PM you the link and you can post it if anyone else asks? Having been on XDA for 5 years, I've never actually posted anything so the 10 comment limit still applies

wazmeister05 said:
Sure thing! I'll PM you the link and you can post it if anyone else asks? Having been on XDA for 5 years, I've never actually posted anything so the 10 comment limit still applies
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https://www.replacebase.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?cat=0&q=Z5+compact
I tried to order one but they don't ship outside the UK. Maybe I was wrong in assuming they were all frosted simply because they look like it in the stock photos they use to sell it! Are these glass or plastic?

civicsr2cool said:
I tried to order one but they don't ship outside the UK. Maybe I was wrong in assuming they were all frosted simply because they look like it in the stock photos they use to sell it! Are these glass or plastic?
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Ah, sorry didn't realise they were mainland UK only.
I actually had no idea it would be glossy until it arrived - it was a quick purchase so I could replace the plastic camera cover and get back to taking pictures without lens flare. To be fair though, all reviews etc. I've read all talk about the frosted glass back so I'm pretty certain on closer inspection that it is plastic.
Not a deal breaker personally, I imagine it won't shatter as easily and I have put a vinyl cover on it anyway. Came with adhesive already on it too which seems to be a bonus looking elsewhere, though I'm not convinced the waterproofing will be guaranteed with it any more. But Im not in a hurry to test that...

Finally got my glossy back in the mail and figured I'd follow up with y'all. Someone may gain knowledge from it.
Purchased from here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281997857206?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
It is a bit of a weird white compared to the frosted back but similar to the front.
It's glass, and extremely fragile. I cracked it taking it out of the packaging. It's probably as fragile as an egg shell. I'm still on the hunt for another to strip to clear and expose the electronics. If y'all know of any plastic ones let me know.