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HTC Mail Bug (Phone Storage Low - Error message)

Have any of you heard of this?
forum.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible/12215-htc-mail-memory-leak-bug-phone-storage-getting-low.html?highlight=mail
androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-incredible/80143-htc-mail-memory-leak-bug-phone-storage-getting-low.html?highlight=phone+storage+low
I had to deal with this yesterday, reset my phone to factory defaults. No matter what I did, the Phone Storage Low error message would not go away. My HTC Mail app was telling me it was using over 100 MB in storage. No SMS or Email could be sent/received, no application run and just Force Close, and nothing could be downloaded. Eventually, the phone just kept rebooting when I tried to run programs. So, I found those threads, reset the phone, and all works again.
I can't post links, so you guys can peruse those two forums for what I'm talking about. You guys are the pros at developing, so I thought I'd ask someone at xda.

Same problem. Ended up doing a factory reset and restored everything BUT, for my Exch acct, I purchased the Moxier Mail app. It's superb. Great integration, calendaring, etc. Easy config. All the goodies.
I still use the HTC Mail app, however, for 1 POP3 and 1 IMAP accounts, but have lowered the per-message download size and have set download to just get the past 3 days (at the bottom you can always grab more if needed.) In my business I'm responding immediately to mail, then filing or deleting it, so 3 days works for me.
Ultimately though it seems that there's a monster memory leak (a la DW Horizon magnitude leak) in HTC Mail. Hopefully we'll see a patch, though I must say that a week into Moxier I don't think I'll be switching away from it for Exch. And oh, multiple Exch accts on the Sense UI would be nice at some point, too. Just sayin'

My expereince:
I was up to 30+ MB and getting concerned so I deleted EVERYTHING in HTC mail (including emptying the trash folder). So there is NO data for this app to do anything with except basic setup info. Still had 26 MB in the app. Deleted the mail account. Still have 26 MB. Can't get rid of it.
Stopped using it and have been using K9 (free) for about 10 days. Took a little getting used to, but I like it.
And just ran across this: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/google/is-your-droid-incredible-low-on-disk-space/2163?tag=nl.e539

Just got this message this morning. To my surprise found that same article on ZDNet. I have maybe 5 apps installed..But yes, im using HTC mail.
Guess its a memory leak of some sort. I use this phone for work and probably get 50-100 emails a day. I did however get the message to disappear by going to my TRASH folder in my HTC mail and deleting the 500 or so messages in there.

Had phone more than a month now and have not had this issue. I only use HTC mail for exchange and use K-9 for all my other pop, imap accounts except gmail which I use for that.
I was greatly disappointed in Moxier in that it didn't have some of the basic features found in HTC Mail, messed up their widgets by putting their name in the title of each one, etc... For the price, simply didn't think it was worth the money and I got the impression they had no desire to fix or improve it. they don't even have a decent trial version to really get a handle on what it could possibly do or work arounds for the apparent lack of basic features.
touchdown was a no-go the first day as it has serious display issues on the DI.
However, I've not had any problems with HTC mail yet... get 100-160 messages a day.

krelvinaz said:
Had phone more than a month now and have not had this issue. I only use HTC mail for exchange and use K-9 for all my other pop, imap accounts except gmail which I use for that.
However, I've not had any problems with HTC mail yet... get 100-160 messages a day.
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Yea, I have had my phone since 1st day of release. Never had a problem until this morning. So weird. Maybe I will try K-9 as my work email is setup POP.

After seeing a couple threads on this I'm wondering if the simple fix is to use a 3-day download setting (or less) in HTC mail.

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After seeing a couple threads on this I'm wondering if the simple fix is to use a 3-day download setting (or less) in HTC mail.
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That is what i used from day one with HTC Mail. So, dont think that theory will work. I actually factory reset the phone last night and am going to try HTC Mail again with all the same settings but not use the widget.

Yeah, ever since I had that first message and had to reset to factory defaults I've left my settings default (except for 100KB messages).
Mail size limit: 100kb
Download Feq: 15 minutes
Download Past mail: 3days
My HTC Mail is still only using around 4MB, and it's been two weeks since that episode.

I've had my phone since Apr 28th and never have had the issue. I only had it set to 10kb, as arrives and 3 days, and I only used it for Exchange mail. All my pop accounts are on K9 and gmail is on gmail.
Over the weekend, I found out about the working version of touchdown for the dinc and started playing with it on Friday. Went ahead and bought it Sunday after beating it up a bit. There are enough features in it that makes it worth the coin.
Glad I didn't run into this issue, but might have over time.

rfarrah said:
After seeing a couple threads on this I'm wondering if the simple fix is to use a 3-day download setting (or less) in HTC mail.
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I got the message a month after getting the phone. I had it set to save all emails and it basically bricked it and had to do a hard reset. It was stuck looping between the Verizon boot and the Incredible screen. A week later it did it again and Verizon told me I had too many emails and changed it to only hold 3 days worth. Worked for a couple weeks and the message came back yet again...This time Verizon thought maybe I had a defective phone and sent me a new one. So far a week with ALL emails saved and no issues, but I'm not holding my breath.
3 days worth of emails is kinda pointless for me...

Memory issues
I started seeing memory issues as described here today, first it was affecting DL from Market, late in theday I could not open texts.
I do NOT use HTC mail. But I did notice that my Contacts Storage was over 95 meg big. Probably a lil too big. Probably thumbnail/facebook integration? Anyhow I reformated phone storage, and then cleared data on contacts, now it is down to 2 meg. I re-DL contacts from Verizon sync
Not sure what this means, I love the Incredible, but can't stand bugginess... And Droid 2 comes out today...
Anyone else seen this behavior that was NOT part of the mail program?

So far I haven't seen this. (knock on wood) Then again I don't use HTC Mail either. I like to keep things slimmed down since I had that Moto Q with the shrinking memory. Yeah! The slimmer things got with that the smaller my storage got. Hopefully this will be fixed before I ever see the problem.

exchange [corporate] email sync = useless phone?

hi everyone,
ive been using a slew of custom roms since our lovely heroes got rooted snd on everyone I setup my work email and calendar along w/ my gmail. When using sense roms it didnt seem to be a problem, same battery life/responsiveness with or without it.
I'm now using CM6, flashing the dailies actually. and after one flash my phone was extremely laggy and the power control widget wasnt working so i wiped, and it was running flawless, fantastic battery life to boot, best i ever had.
I then decided to resetup my exchange email, and boom the phone is garbage. laggy beyond normal use and watching the battery percentage drop from 94 to 89 in the matter of minutes, i chalked it up to it resycning the emails, so i waited it out about an hour, battery life was 67%...so that pinpointed my culprit...
even after setting all my accounts not to sync [i didnt see an option to pinpoint 1], i get the same responsiveness from my phone. It's only after removing it from my accounts and sync section the phone returns to normal.
ps i've only set the calendar (not contacts) to sync, and 3 days of email syncing every hour (longest delay, the sense roms let you pick longer or manual)
anyone have any thoughts? and please dont say use touchdown, i tried it and its not for me. thanks for reading.

Exchange Sync on mine drains the battery to, if its set to PUSH email, if you set it at an interval - even 10 minutes its not so bad. I have mine set to 1 hour and 1 day (About 100 emails a day), so it checks it 6-7 times through the work day, and then I can manually refresh when I am at home. I wish I could set a schedule on it - I don't need the exchange email between 8-5 because the people who email me are 30 feet away and they usually just yell after they send the email. After 5 if it switched to push on its own, it would be awesome.
That being said, the phone is still completely usable with exchange setup, just a battery whore.
EDIT:
I have noticed that even though it is set to an interval, if you are in the email app, or open it it seems to force a sync regardless of settings. I wonder if it does this in the background. I have never paid close enough attention to see.

thanks for the reply, good to know im not the only one whose corporate email sync is a battery hog.
in the mean time i've actually found a bit of a workaround i figure i share for anyone else in my situation. since i barely checked my email but used the calendar alot. I downloaded Google Calendar Sync software on my work pc and set it up to do a 1 way sync and put my Outlook calendar on my google calendar, which syncs with my phone obviously.
So far so good, but i hope the exchange sync issues dont go unnoticed within the CM6 dev team.

Exchange Push Email

Morning all,
In the stock Froyo I found that Exchange push email was not working reliably. There were alot of postings on the Moto forum, as well as other forums. I myself saw this problem in the middle of the day, where I had to manually sync to get my new Exchange email, rather than it showing up via push and then being notified. This is a huge problem for me.
Now that I have moved to the 591 release of Gbread I was wondering if this issue still exists, or has it been resolved. If not then how are you getting around this huge problem?
Thanks,
Steve

Steve,
I have a newer Droid, build 340...I have not experienced the lack of pushing Email while stock.
I did download a couple of apps that seemed to interfere, I rooted and installed a ROM Manager (for task management), this caused my Email to quit syncing, but my calender was fine (very odd), to fix this I removed all of my information in my corporate synch account and then re-entered it and all has been well since.
I'm not sure if this is the same problem you are having but this was my experience.

MAJOR battery drain from Mail app

Dear all
I've only had my SGSII a week or so but have been very unimpressed with the battery life I've been achieving - not even a full working day.
I've been trying to work out what's going on, but this morning things really seemed to come to a head. I'd charge overnight but within an hour and a half of disconnecting the phone almost half the charge had gone & the back of it felt very warm to touch.
Looking at the battery stats and using the Watchdog program it looks like the Samsung Email app is to blame. I also saw the phone was marked as 'awake' much of the time, presumably due to a partial wakelock from the Mail app (battery history in Gingerbread doesn't seem to actually have partial wakelock as a category but this certainly looks like it). I've got three accounts setup in it - 2x Microsoft Exchange and 1x IMAP. Refresh times were initially push (MSEx 1)/manual (MSEx 2)/15 min (IMAP). I've tried changing them all to 15 min or to manual but it doesn't seem to improve matters. In case it is of relevance, the MSEx ones are imposing device & storage encryption as part of their policies (I've no choice in this).
Relevant screenshots below - would be grateful for any thoughts as to how and improve matters!

What firmware are you on? I believe the later ones fix the email app slightly, although I haven't seen any drain as bad as yours.
Another option, if you don't mind flashing a custom ROM, would be to install VillainROM 1.4, and use the Villain Tweaks app to get the vanilla Android e-mail app. It's what I've done, and it seems to work well!

Thanks for the reply. I'm just on the stock ROM that came with the phone (XWKE7) - both update on the phone and Kies don't report any further update being available for me (UK SIM-free unbranded).
I tried rooting this morning and used TB to freeze some of the Samsung rubbish (hubs, etc.) - however none of this made any difference to battery usage.
I wasn't sure how the stock email app handled MS Exchange accounts that required encryption? The Samsung Mail app isn't that bad, I particularly liked the split pane view - it seems really badly coded though if it's causing this!
Short of a total ROM replacement any other thoughts from anyone?

delete the data from the app
settings/applikations/all/email/ delete or wipe user data (all data).
make a new Mailaccount.

spline1 said:
delete the data from the app
settings/applikations/all/email/ delete or wipe user data (all data).
make a new Mailaccount.
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Thanks - had been looking for this but couldn't find anything under 'Mail' - found it under 'Email' as you mention As soon as I deleted the data it recognised the device encryption policy had been removed and this triggered a decryption of system and external storage. I'll monitor battery usage for a few hours then reinstate the IMAP account and monitor things again before finally restoring the ActiveSync account.

OK definitely some progress so far - only IMAP account added just after charging stopped and battery usage has dramatically improved...
Now going to try adding an MS Exchange account!

OK, so far so good - MS Exchange account added back in and left on overnight...
I wonder if the mistake was when first setting up the account picking the special Samsung 'premium account' option??

OK - I'm now suspicious that it is manual sync setting that is causing the issue - re-added a second Exchange account and put it all to manual - phone almost totally drained in a couple of hours, with the sharp drop occuring just after I added that:
Have tried removing just that account and hope that will do the trick. If so, will then try adding it again but setting a sync time rather than leaving it on manual.

I've switched to touchdown for my corporate ms exchange account (push) instead of the samsung app.
Battery life gone from 7 hours to about 16 hours. I can't believe the native app is so thirsty. (KE7 stock)
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

What's interesting was that I was getting around 16+ hours too with the stock app having an MS Exchange account (on push peak times and 15 min other times) an IMAP on 15 min and a few Gmail accounts. It seemed to be adding the 2nd Exchange account on manual sync that sucked the battery life again. Am going to try readding it but paradoxically leaving it on a more frequent sync setting to see how that does.

If i remember correctly, it was observed that the mail app (non gmail) and wifi interact to cause a lovely wakelock, and that it happens with stock and samsung.
Maybe try something like k-9 mail?

Intersting - it certainly seems to behave like a wakelock. As I say though with one account on push and one in 15 min it was working fine - it was only when I tried to add a second exchange account on manual that I started to run into problems. Pretty poor coding on Samsung's part though regardless! Does anyone know the best way to raise these sort of issues with them?

Get in touch with Seven as well they produce the email app. I have mine on push with exchange and no bad battery drains, also I run manual when in the office once again no heavy drainage. I am on VR though.
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alanjrobertson said:
Does anyone know the best way to raise these sort of issues with them?
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In USA, they just introduced this
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA?sk=app_158125230916392
but obviously I doubt we can use this for SGS2 that is not out in the US yet.
You can however say that you are traveling, in the States right now

Thanks for the suggestions, folks - will try them. The @SamsungUK twitter account never seems to reply to any Tweets, but will see if they have a comparable FB page. Have found Seven's website so will get in touch with them too.

Exchange ActiveSync Push not working, HELP!!

I've found several threads, but none of which seem to help. I can't get my exchange account to "push" my email. I've turned on every option known to man to allow this to happen, but it just isn't happening without me having to refresh. Push works with my other two non-exchange accounts and it worked fine with my old HTC One M7. Any ideas?

I am having the same issues (exchange server not pushing email, have to manually refresh) plus phone is very warm and battery drain since the email is not getting pushed and I think the email app is trying to sync with the exchange servers and draining the battery. But email works (exchange push) with my previous phone galaxy s4 update to 4.4.4 with no problems

pss3054b said:
I am having the same issues (exchange server not pushing email, have to manually refresh) plus phone is very warm and battery drain since the email is not getting pushed and I think the email app is trying to sync with the exchange servers and draining the battery. But email works (exchange push) with my previous phone galaxy s4 update to 4.4.4 with no problems
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So, can anyone help us?

I get this problem a lot with gmail, yahoo, and hotmail. Sometime it works, sometimes it doesn't. The only good news is that the new Gmail app (coming soon) will be able to handle multiple accounts from Yahoo, Hotmail, and Exchange. So hopefully that will be a better app than Samsung's mail.
PS> If you set it to retrieve every X minutes it will work, but it will waste more battery than push.

Ok, it's been a couple of weeks, so I thought I would ask again. Does anyone have a suggested solution to this? Am I the only one having problems with email not being "pushed" to my phone via ActiveSync? In doing a google search I see that this has historically been an issue, but there is no solution?

volrus said:
Ok, it's been a couple of weeks, so I thought I would ask again. Does anyone have a suggested solution to this? Am I the only one having problems with email not being "pushed" to my phone via ActiveSync? In doing a google search I see that this has historically been an issue, but there is no solution?
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Been using the new Gmail 5.0 app, it handles multiple accounts nicely. It doesn't use push, but checks every 15 mins. Overall I like it more than the Samsung email app, so I am using Gmail now. I deleted all the accounts from the Samsung app. I've also noticed an improvement in battery life (subjective).

I have the same issue
Hi all, it's been a LONG time since I've been over here. I recently got the Note 4 as a Christmas present from the wifey, she knows what I like. Probably helps that I've had every Note so it's a safe guess on her part. Yesterday I received the push update from AT&T which took it up to 4.4.4. Well, since that my push email works when it wants to. It will eventually push it but it could be anywhere between 15 minutes and 2 hours. This is unacceptable for me as I own a custom networking company that has jobs in all timezones and I need to get my emails immediately.
I have done all of the regular "troubleshooting" steps including wiping my phone and starting from scratch with nothing installed but the stock email. I even changed the SIM. All of the push/sync settings are enabled......ALL of them.
I would LOVE to use my Touchdown app which I basically keep on my phone now for the server search feature but don't use it for notifications because it doesn't show the email content on my Gear S. The only app I know of that shows that email content on the Gear S is the stock email app (PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG).
Has anybody found a resolution to this? I haven't rooted my phone since my Note 2 but before that I'd been hacking them since these threads at XDA were WinMo only. I'll gladly put a new ROM on if I can get my email working and pushed to my Gear S again. Does anybody have any recommendations that may save me some time poking around?
Thanks for listening to my long winded story. I've been told I write too much. Happy holidays!

use maildroid app.

I have no problems with my MS Exchange account pushing the new emails. I remember reading in the MS Exchange set up instructions that if you set it up as a POP rather than an Exchange account the calendar & task functions will be disabled. Knowing that an Exchange account can be set up as one or as a POP email account I would make certain you have it set up as an Exchange account and not a POP account. Not sure if that has anything to do with the push feature but I thought it would be worth mentioning.

My Exchange email through the Samsung email app works fine and push email works. It's worked on every Samsung phone I've had on every rom I've tried so I guess I'm of no help.

volrus said:
I've found several threads, but none of which seem to help. I can't get my exchange account to "push" my email. I've turned on every option known to man to allow this to happen, but it just isn't happening without me having to refresh. Push works with my other two non-exchange accounts and it worked fine with my old HTC One M7. Any ideas?
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Sprint Note 4/Exchange 2010
I have also been seeing inconsistent results with exchange push email as to the timing of received messages. I was also seeing the battery drain issues associated with exchange push. Although I noticed the battery drain was worse while using cellular data as opposed to wifi. I have only been using the samsung email app with stock NK2, with Hybrid X, and BobCat roms. Same results on all roms. I have repeatedly gone thru the steps of deleting phone thru webmail, delete account on phone after force stop of exchange and email apps and resetup, added account thru email app instead of thru accounts. If I saw it in a forum I tried it. I do primarily use wifi whenever possible. I did confirm it was only exchange push causing my issues as I could set to 15 minutes or manaual and not see the battery drains.
i also had a Nexus 6 along with other devices prior to this phone and push worked just fine.
So yesterday I took the plunge and loaded MailWise. My phone is now using push and is working great. As it has on other phones/devices I have had. Not seeing huge battery drain even on cellular data. Yes, it is possible to see data icon stop running constantly on cellular data after all with this phone. 6 hours off charger today and still at 90%. Prior I would have been pushing 60% range. Receiving email notifications on phone either prior to my desktop outlook or at the same time. Which is normal. Specifically tested by sending messages to my exchange account using gmail and yahoo while having desktop outlook open and running.
I did notice thru webmail that my device now shows up as Android instead of SAMSUNGN910P
Hope this can help others