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Hello,
I have been trying to root my friends HTC Magic following instructions I have found on this and other forums and having no luck.
The phone in question is a vodafone htc magic.
My problem is that the computer does'nt recognise the phone as the drivers don't seem to work for it!
Could somebody please post a step by step guide for Noobs so I can see where I am going wrong!
I rooted my Hero no problems, but the Magic is proving a bit more of a challange!!!!!!
Many thanks,
Iain
You could do what I did which I've summarised below. There's probably more backup steps than is necessary, but you can never be too careful.
There's loads of guides out there with the guides and detail, e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
but they seem to branch in and out of methods quite a bit. I've added a few links to the pages I used for the detail.
The method I used is the 1 click backdoor, which also disables OTA updates to stop it being closed in the future I think.
First off, I'm a Linux noob and managed okay because the apps are so well thought out, but this is all done at your own risk.
Secondly, your uk Magic Vodafone prob has 32b board, not 32a.
(There's plenty on this forum. Or the Cyanogen one on the Dream forum works for 32b too.)
You can check with extra step by powering off, then on power again while holding back button. Last digits at top tell you the board details. Menu button gets you back.
0) Install the Android USB driver, connect, mount, then disconnect, etc.
http://dl.google.com/android/android_usb_windows.zip
1) Use google to sync all your contacts, etc. to google account so restore is automatic.
2) Use Astro to Backup your apps etc to the sd card
3) Goto wireless settings, mobile networks, apn, select and make note of your vodafone UK APN details (so you can type your 3g settings back)
4) Use USB to copy your SD card to your PC
5) From your phone, Download Cyanogen recovery. Don't run yet.
http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/
( This basically automates the rooting and booting to this recovery image : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558 )
6) From your phone, Download a rom image; the 32b board you prob have in your UK Magic allows you to use 32b ones, I used the Cyanogen one here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204
7) Use Astro to move the rom file from \sdcard\download to root of \sdcard
8) Run Cyanogen recovery 1.4 1-click root installed in 5.
Use Backup recovery image
Use Flash recovery
9) Poweroff, home + power to get into the custom recovery image
10) Select Nandroid backup to create new backup (this copies your phone to your SD card)
11) Reboot. Repeat 3 to get the backup of the nandroid folder, and the recovery image created in 7 and 9 onto your PC
12) Run Cyanogen recovery 1.4 1-click root installed in 5 again.
Flash recovery (this makes next boot 'special')
13) Reboot. Poweroff, hold home + power on again.
14) Select WIPE (You did backup your apps and SD card data right?).
15) Then select apply any zip from sd.
Follow instructions to install the Cyanogen rom image you moved to the root of your SD Card in 6 and 7
16) Wait 10 mins or so. The last message about writing root or whatever doesn't explicitly say finished.
17) Reboot.
If you have reboot hang, most people report is because missed WIPE step. Otherwise consult the relevant forum for the Rom you downloaded.
18) Do the new user settings thing. The activation and sync will fail cos you've not got 3G yet.
19) Goto network settings, advanced, APN, type in your vodafone UK APN details (so you can type your 3g settings back)
20) Done
21) If you've got Cyanogen Install the updater from marketplace (search for Cyanogen), or here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544663
I also installed:
Audio resources unzipped to your SD Card root from the Cyanogen rom pages, this reinstates notifications and ringtones I guess were removed to allow the memory obsessives to keep their phones clean.
SetCPU from this site, to override the default Cyanogen high overclock settings when phone is sleeping.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris,
Thanks alot for that, my friend is coming over after the F1 so will give it a go and let you know how we get on!!!!!
Thanks alot for your help!
iain
Hi!
Did you solved the problem, I seem to have the very same problem as you
trying to get cyanogen on my uk htc magic
Hi,
I have been trying to get cyanogen on my vodafone uk htc magic for a few hours now, not even getting close though!
The problem is, i already have the proper 1.6 update which vodafone pushed out a couple weeks back, and now want to root my phone and get cyanogens 1.6 on it. The flashrec application only runs on early versions of cupcake i believe, so my first step was to get that on my phone. (I have been following this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod aswell as trying the guide on this forum thread)
When i quickboot the phone and try to install the 1.5 update, it goes all the way through with the progress bar in the top right, then fails right at the end on 'Model ID Incorrect! Update Fail!'. When i reboot the phone it is just as it was before.
I have also tried putting the cm-recovery-1.4.img file on the memory card and installing that from flashboot but that also fails.
Do you have any ideas / recommendations for getting cyanogen on there?
Thanks,
Aaron
[email protected]
Skype: atrout1991
aaron465 said:
Hi,
I have been trying to get cyanogen on my vodafone uk htc magic for a few hours now, not even getting close though!
The problem is, i already have the proper 1.6 update which vodafone pushed out a couple weeks back, and now want to root my phone and get cyanogens 1.6 on it. The flashrec application only runs on early versions of cupcake i believe, so my first step was to get that on my phone. (I have been following this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod aswell as trying the guide on this forum thread)
When i quickboot the phone and try to install the 1.5 update, it goes all the way through with the progress bar in the top right, then fails right at the end on 'Model ID Incorrect! Update Fail!'. When i reboot the phone it is just as it was before.
I have also tried putting the cm-recovery-1.4.img file on the memory card and installing that from flashboot but that also fails.
Do you have any ideas / recommendations for getting cyanogen on there?
Thanks,
Aaron
[email protected]
Skype: atrout1991
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Is there a solution for this?
I did get this working in the end, was quite a while ago now though...
I am pretty sure that I used the relentless rooter program to get it working in the end, details/download are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200
Aaron
So, i'm sure there's many posts about this, but I thought I'd drop in my 2 cents. Basically, the purpose of this post is to try and help completely new users get acquainted with the world of Android "ROMing". I know there's beginners tutorials and wiki's and such, and I'm very grateful for all the time put into them by their writers, but the fact remains that they're written by experts, and as such, their expertise shines through and can sometimes confuse new users such as my self.
Up front: I'm an AT&T customer who's using a Rogers branded HTC Magic purchased from ImportGSM. I'm using Rogers cause Rogers has the same 3G bands as AT&T. I am coming from a Sony-Ericsson dumbphone. I use Gmail for my primary email and applied for a Google Voice account a while ago (got the account before getting the phone). I'm a practicing computer engineer so if I lapse into jargon, I apologize.
READ THE ENTIRE POST BEFORE PERFORMING THESE ACTIONS
OK, so you got an android phone (if you're on this forum, its most likely an HTC Magic/Dream/Hero) and you want to install new ROMs onto it (for whatever reason, just to do it, to get more functionality, to remove the carrier 'branding', whatever). You've done your research. You've read through the wikis (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking) and you're still a little confused as to where to start, or you're worried you're gonna brick your phone.
First, relax, as long as you follow the instructions, there's little chance of bricking your phone.
Second, some vocab:
SPL: Secondary Program Loader. don't worry too much about this, you shouldn't have to mess with it. I like to think of it as your phones BIOS. There's an off chance that you'll have a "perfected" SPL (.0006 or .0010), which basically means that you have a phone that is hardened against hackers, but as long as you use the one touch root method described below, you won't even notice it. You won't be able to use the Adb/Fastboot/Android SDK method mentioned below, you'll just get a "no access" error when you try to terminal into your phone.
ROM: Catch all term for software to be loaded onto your android. Generally comes in two flavors, a Recovery ROM, and what I call an Operating System ROM. A Recovery ROM is what gives you root access. An Operating System ROM is the user experience (where Amon_Ra or Cyanogen or others mix and match features to make a better user experience). I know that Operating System ROM might be misleading, but its the closest computer analogy I could come up with.
Now, this process will completely refresh your phone, removing all of your contacts, apps, etc. So before you start, if you have stuff on your phone you want to save, best copy them somewhere off your phone now. There's free apps out there to do all of this.
Lets get started.
Now, the first thing you're gonna wanna do is get something called "root" access to your phone. This allows you to install those fancy homebrewed ROMs that people are talking about. To get root, you have to install a recovery ROM. Installing a recovery ROM is is roughly similar to flashing a new BIOS on your computer. Except in this case, its on your phone and it gives you unrestricted access to the phone (like the Root user in Linux). There's two ways of getting Root. The first way is to install the Android SDK onto your computer and image your android with one of the recovery ROMs via your computers command line. I won't get into details on this one because its not the method I chose, and instructions are all over the web on this one. NOTE that this method doesn't work with updated Rogers phones. They installed the 'Perfected' .0010 SPL effectively removing remote command line access thus making this method a non-starter. The other way is to use the "one click root" program, which is a program you install on your Android phone. To do this, go to the one click root website (http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/). Download the .apk file and drop it onto the SD card in the Android phone (you'll have to connect the phone to your computer via USB, and select "Mount SD card". then simply drag and drop the .apk onto the SD card in your computer's file browser). Then, on the android phone, open up your file browser (I suggest Astro or Linda, both free downloads from the market) and open the .apk using the default Android application launcher. It should be a dark screen with a text box and a few buttons. The textbox should have a URL in it pointing to a .img recovery image (This is the cyanogen one). You'll first want to make a backup of your current (factory) ROM by pressing the (i believe) botton button. It'll work for a few seconds. Then you're ready to flash the recovery ROM. You can either accept the default (the cyanogen, which works fine) or specify a different ROM (such as Amon_Ra's which has slightly more capabilities) by entering in a different path (URL or path to SD card if you have a recovery image stored on the SD card). Then hit the first button to begin the flash. Wait for it to finish. DO NOT DISTURB THE PHONE WHILE FLASHING.
Once its finished flashing, congrats, you've rooted your phone. Now power off the phone, and power it back on while while holding power and Home. Hold Power and Home the entire time till you see an 'old computer' style menu come up. Should have some options such as reboot, install update.zip, install other .zip, wipe data/factory reset, etc. you should be able to use the trackball to cycle through the selections. The botton should have something like <cyanogen/Amon_Ra> recovery vX.X.X. If you see this screen, then you've successfully rooted your phone. Congrats.
Now, before you do anything else, IMMEDIATELY perform a nandroid backup. This should be on of the options in the recovery ROM. What this is doing is creating a backup of your current phone configuration so if anything goes wrong with installing the hacked ROM, you can revert to the state the phone is in now.
Next, perform a data wipe. There should be a selection for "wipe data/factory reset" or something similar. Select that. Wait for it to finish wiping your data from the SD card.
Now to install other hacked ROMs, just download whatever ROM you want to install from the xda site. Check the bottom of this page for a listing of the main ones (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking). It should download as a .zip. Copy the .zip file (DON'T UNZIP IT) onto the root of the SD Card (you can do this while in recovery mode by mounting the SD card or by physically removing the SD card from the phone and putting it into a card reader on your computer and copying the files). Once you have the ROM .zip on the SD card, with the SD card in the phone, select "install other .zip" or something similar and select the .zip file of the ROM you want to run. Should be some combination of the creators name (Amon_Ra or CM (for CyanogenMod)), what board the .zip is for (32A, 32B), what version the ROM is (4.1.1 or something). Then select "home" to confirm that you want to do this and wait for the periods to stop appearing. Once it stops, you should be able to select "reboot".
After it reboots (you should see different splash screens than when it was factory configured, except for the very first screen which on mine is "Rogers". Mine goes from Rogers to "Android" spelled out in blue text) you should have a fully functioning phone running a hacked ROM.
If it doesn't boot fully (which mine did a few times), try a different ROM or try wiping your data again. If all else fails, go into your recovery ROM (power and Home) and restore the Nandroid recovery image you made earlier.
Once it boots, it should have a tutorial on how to use Android.
When you get to the google login, I would suggest setting up your APN settings prior to doing that. At the google login screen, hit the menu button and select "APN Settings". Select add new APN (either an on screen choice or brought up by the menu button) and add in the APN details for your provider. You can find these easily by googling "<your provider> APN settings". Log into Google and you should up and running.
I just kinda threw this semi-tutorail together, so it may be a little confusing, but I tried to explain everything as best as I could. I know that i found all of the different ways to get root and the different ROMs and such to be very confusing. Just throwing out how I went about doing it.
Disclaimer: one click root works by exploiting a vulnerability in Android, which was closed by Google on Aug 11 or so. Therefore, if you have a factory Android build from that was released after Aug 11, one click root may not work for you, and you'll have to go the SDK route. I updated my Rogers phone in mid oct 2009, and my build was still prior to Aug 11, so don't just assume cause its after Aug 11 that it won't work on your phone.
thanks alot for the tutorial! you're a saint, i've been looking all over for something exactly like this!
i will test this out and let you know!
Edit:
I was successful! Huzzah! Thanks for the guide again!
What rom did you load onto your phone?
Also,
Could you give a brief tutorial on what exactly changing the radio and spl are?
Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
Code:
fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
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@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?
I just started a wiki here
USB Host mode
I am hoping that you who actually know how to do it would help develop a set of instructions that are simple enough for a literate, adventurous non-tech (like me) to follow.
UPDATE: The wiki now has a complete list of installation instructions. You'll have to hunt through verygreen's thread below for operating instructions till they organized on the wiki.
The wiki and this thread (where noobs like me can post) are based on verygreen's
[WIP] USB Host support (working)
I asked verygreen and ros87 to do the USB Host mode for the Nook Simple Touch. Verygreen announced success within 48 hours. The hack has gotten whipped into shape there with the amazing help of ros87, Renate NST, mali100, and other superb xda people.
The project started at mobileread.com:
Project: E-Paper Tablet (touch-typable!)
Thanks to fellow mobilereaders for support, especially Kumabjorn, poliorcetes, and nealsharmon for donating money for devices.
The wiki is super rough. It assumes a new device in the box and a non-tech user. I started the instructions to show how simple they need to be. I will continue helping with that because it does seem difficult for techs to believe just how lost we can be with this stuff. My goal is to bridge the gap between techs and literate users so that non-programmers who want to type on the NST can. If you are an expert writer of users manuals, maybe you would help, too.
Honestly, I don't know the first thing to do now that my NST is on and registered. For example, I don't even know if I need to:
root the NST first
install adb (which I also don't know about)
or what. I have studied the thread, so I will be familiar with the terms. But I'm completely clueless about actually doing the hack. I managed to unbox my refurbished NST, update its software to 1.1.2 and install a microSD card. The issue is, what exactly should be done now? Please leave your answers in the wiki! Thank you!
I would say the best way to start is from eded333's Minimal Touch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346748 . That gives you a nice system with market and a launcher to install and start your texteditor or writing apps.
If I find some time i will create a small update-package that installs all the necessary things for the usb-host mode.
Cool. Will the 1.1.2 NST software update screw any of this up? I have it installed now because it fixed wifi connection issues that affected me.
andrewed said:
Cool. Will the 1.1.2 NST software update screw any of this up? I have it installed now because it fixed wifi connection issues that affected me.
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1.1.2 is fine. You can still use eded333's MinimalTouch to root it and get a launcher.
Awesome. Will dive in, then!
As promised I created a small update package, to install all the necessary files and tools.
It is installable via Clockwork Recovery in the same way as eded333's MinimalTouch, which should be installed first, to get root, a launcher and a working Market.
Requirements:
Software version 1.1 or 1.1.2 (1.1.2 is recommended, as it fixes WLAN issues)
root, a launcher and working market (I recommend using eded333's MinimalTouch)
What it does:
changes the kernel to NST-kernel v0.1 with USB-Host and multitouch support
changes the uRamdisk to a uRamdisk with fixed init (needed for USB Input devices) and adb-usb
installs the busybox and sqlite binaries
adds the permission node for multitouch to /etc/permissions/required_hardware.xml
installs the app UsbMode-1.2 and the NullKbd-1.1 by Renate NST
adds the permission to enable the NullKbd
changes the qwerty.kl and qwerty.kcm.bin to the remapped one by Renate NST
installs the NookColorTools, so you can switch to the NullKbd
DISCLAMER and WARNING:
I'm not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, lost data, fried USB-Devices. Make a backup before you try anything described here!
USB-Host support is still WIP (work in progress), the battery drain is noticeable higher.
this is the first release and only tested by myself, so don't expect it to be bulletproof.
Credits go to:
verygreen, ros87 and everybody who helped with the USB-Host mode,
Renate NST, for all the effort making USB-Host support userfriendly (USB-Mode app, NullKbd, key remapping, testing),
wheilitjohnny and arkusuma for the Multitouch support,
eded333, for his great MinimalTouch,
Download:
usb-host-mt-pack_0.1.zip
Thanks, mali100.
I'd just like to point out that you can switch to the NullKbd just by hitting the Ctrl key and selecting it from the popup IME picker.
Renate NST said:
I'd just like to point out that you can switch to the NullKbd just by hitting the Ctrl key and selecting it from the popup IME picker.
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Nice easter-egg didn't noticed this before. Thanks
Ok, I will have to get a card reader. In the meantime, I'm getting a grip on the instructions by reading through the fine print. It led me to the noogie/backup process.
It says I need a class 6 microSD card. but I got a class 2 as per verygreen's instructions for the hack itself. Do I definitely also need a class 6 card just for the backup, or can I use my class 2 card?
Now that the hack is finally in reach, I want to do it right.
andrewed said:
Ok, I will have to get a card reader. In the meantime, I'm getting a grip on the instructions by reading through the fine print. It led me to the noogie/backup process.
It says I need a class 6 microSD card. but I got a class 2 as per verygreen's instructions for the hack itself. Do I definitely also need a class 6 card just for the backup, or can I use my class 2 card?
Now that the hack is finally in reach, I want to do it right.
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I'm using a 4G class 2 micro SD card for NOOGIE and it's fine.
where to?
Hi where to put content of META-INF? (dont wanna root again...)
mrWax said:
Hi where to put content of META-INF?
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The META-INF folder contains the insallation script and the interpreter for the script, they are used by CWM to install the package and not copied to the nook.
(dont wanna root again...)
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If you mean that your device isn't rooted, and you don't want to, then I have to tell you that root is needed to switch between usb-host mode and peripheral-mode, so root is mandatory.
If you mean your device is already rooted and you don't want to redo it, then don't worry, this package doesn't contain files that root the nook.
I had already rooted my nook another way...now what?
Friends,
I rooted my Nook using the instructions here (SalsichaNooter):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O05Y7C9a4eU
I didn't use the Clockwork method. I don't know how to revert and go back to your original instructions. I tried downloading usb-host-mt_pack-0.1.zip and installing the apps only but that didn't work.
Any suggestions on how I should go about the process without Clockwork? Or should I follow these directions to install clockwork even though I'm already rooted with SalsichaNooter?
I really would like to get a keyboard working on my Nook and feel like I'm so close.
nealsharmon said:
I didn't use the Clockwork method. I don't know how to revert and go back to your original instructions.
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You don't have to revert anything, a device rooted with salsichanooter works fine.
I tried downloading usb-host-mt_pack-0.1.zip and installing the apps only but that didn't work.
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That's because you also need another kernel and uramdisk and some configuration, that gets done by the updatepackage.
Any suggestions on how I should go about the process without Clockwork? Or should I follow these directions to install clockwork even though I'm already rooted with SalsichaNooter?
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This update-package can only be installed with the Clockwork-mod recovery. You don't have to install CWM on the Nook, just write it to a sdcard (like you did with the salsichanooter image), copy the updatepackage onto the sdcard, put the card into the nook and reboot. The Nook then boots into Clockworkmod Recovery, then you got to "install zip from sdcard", choose the usb-host-package, click yes and wait, eject the sd card, and click reboot.
thank you
Thanks for your input. I will try the process you suggested.
It worked!
mali100 said:
You don't have to revert anything, a device rooted with salsichanooter works fine.
That's because you also need another kernel and uramdisk and some configuration, that gets done by the updatepackage.
This update-package can only be installed with the Clockwork-mod recovery. You don't have to install CWM on the Nook, just write it to a sdcard (like you did with the salsichanooter image), copy the updatepackage onto the sdcard, put the card into the nook and reboot. The Nook then boots into Clockworkmod Recovery, then you got to "install zip from sdcard", choose the usb-host-package, click yes and wait, eject the sd card, and click reboot.
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I followed your instructions and it worked. Thank you very much.
Still Not working
I'm very new at this.
I have followed the above directions and patched with usb-host-mt-pack_0.1 successfully but my two USB keyboards are still not working.
I originally rooted my nook using TouchNooter 2.1.31.
I am using an OTG cable and am getting the solid green light after turning off current and selecting Host.
When i plug either keyboard (or bluetooth dongle for that matter) State changes from a_idle to a_host.
Other results:
Keyboard: none
all fields below that are blank.
Any suggestions on how i should proceed? Could this just be a matter of the keyboards not being compatible? What are the recommended keyboards?
Many thanks!
When you are having trouble, try a wall-powered hub (at least as a test).
I have seen where it switches to a_host but it's not really connected.
The "View USB" button is helpful and will show VID/PID.
If for some screwy reason you have a keyboard that is non-standard,
a lack of a black dot will indicate no driver is loaded.
Renate NST said:
When you are having trouble, try a wall-powered hub (at least as a test).
I have seen where it switches to a_host but it's not really connected.
The "View USB" button is helpful and will show VID/PID.
If for some screwy reason you have a keyboard that is non-standard,
a lack of a black dot will indicate no driver is loaded.
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Thank you, Renate. That worked great. My Bluetooth is working and I'm using my apple wireless keyboard to word process. My arrow keys don't work so I have to do some touching or backspacing to edit in google documents.
I have a chronic case of CVS (eye condition). This is really gonna help me. Do you recommend a stand with space at the bottom for the cord?
Thank you so much!
Stand? I love mine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661902
You can use either a desk stand or the little bendy tripod.
The arrow keys should work, but they get rotated when in landscape mode.
There is a mod to make them not rotate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30260821&highlight=keyinputqueue#post30260821
Cyanogen has released the 7.2 version OS for HTC Hero GSM. I've seen a lot of people talk over the CDMA version, but none on the GSM one. Has anyone tried it out? I wanna hear the bad and good remarks that you have to say about it , by "you" I mean those who have tried it.
To be sure, this is the tipe of HTC Hero I'm referring to: spinei.hotnews.ro/wp-uploads/2009/10/htc_hero.jpg
I runned it for a week or two. As for stability it's the same as CM7, CM7.2 just has some ICS backports, nothing bad
What do you mean by ruining it?
People who own the CDMA version claim that on their phone it's a performance improvement from 7.0 to 7.2.
I have 2.1 official version on it. It's stable and somewhat ok in terms of flow in the menus. Will 7.2 be an improvement over the the official 2.1 version on my phone?
P.S. I didn't test any other version of Android, it never used anything except the stock version.
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What do you mean by ruining it?
People who own the CDMA version claim that on their phone it's a performance improvement from 7.0 to 7.2.
I have 2.1 official version on it. It's stable and somewhat ok in terms of flow in the menus. Will 7.2 be an improvement over the the official 2.1 version on my phone?
P.S. I didn't test any other version of Android, it never used anything except the stock version.
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It;'s not ruined, I had it on my device for a week or two. I thing it will beat your 2.1 official. It will not have HTC Sense. You get 2.3 version of android some ICS goodies. I didnt run official 2.1 on hero so i dont know how it is
What does HTC Sense has and cyanogen 7.2 doesn't have as equivallent?
From what I saw in youtube videos, cyanogen pretty much has something almost equal to HTC Sense as GUI. Are you referring to the HTC specific apps and widgets?
P.S. I misread "runned" for "ruined" )
Yup that fancy weather widget and all that stuff, but you wont miss it trust me, that raw android look is way better
One more question.
How functional are these:
- WIFI
- Bluetooth
- Camera
- basic phone functions(calling, messages)
- sound
? Did you have any problems with these in terms of errors or functionality(loss or low of signal, automuted, etc.)? And did you had any random restarts issues?
Nope they all work awsome, it's a stable release, those releases dont have problems with that. And you shouldnt be too scared to flash your device. So far I had 4-5 android devices that are rooted and flashed a million times without any losses, you may encounter a soft brick sometimes but you can fix that easily. You cant know how good is a ROM until you test it. So stop being a girl and flash it . No offence If you dont like it, there is a lot more ROM's on this forum, you dont have to choose CM7.2....
First time to install Cyanogenmod was not entirely easy
Hey all,
I just created an account to be able to post my experience with CGM 7.2 on the HTC Hero GSM. Everything I checked so far works fine, however there's a slight jaggedness in scrolling.
For me as a complete newbie it took about 6 hours to get it to run, mainly because I had to get straight what I actually have to do. There is no paucity of TO-DOs, just no individual one worked for me - I got it sorted out only by combining all kinds of posts from everywhere. That's why I want to share my viewpoint on this - without all kinds of different people airing their piece of the puzzle I would surely have given up!
The specs were as follows; starting with the "fastboot-info":
HERO CVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-1.76.0007 (HERO10000)
MICROP-010f
TOUCH PANEL-SYN0104
RADIO-6.35.15.11
Aug 4 2009,19:43:30
And software-information:
Firmware-Version 2.1-update1
Baseband-Version 63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.11
Kernel-Version 2.6.29-7527f009 [email protected] #1
Build-Nummer 3.36.405.1 CL199109 release-keys
Software-Nummer 3.36.405.1
Browser-Version WebKit 3.1
So here's what I did:
0) I wrongly assumed that I need to unlock my bootloader directly, i.e. using the software from HTCDev. As I am using Ubuntu Linux, this meant quite a hassle in itself, and I did not manage it after all. The reason was due to an error when trying to get the Identifier Token needed by HTC to send you some clearance-file to unlock the bootloader:
Code:
fastboot oem get_identifier_token
...
(bootloader) [ERR] Command error !!!
OKAY [ 0.007s]
finished. total time: 0.007s
I found no solution to this problem, but tried to up- or downgrade my HBOOT-version. Luckily that wasn't necessary after all. A side-effect of it was that I installed adb and fastboot, which I happened to use later on (but are not necessary either).
Let me assure you: Unlocking the bootloader directly (in the HTC-way) is NOT necessary!
1) Getting root access:
I used UniversalAndroot-1.6.2-beta5.apk to do that, and conveniently installed it using
Code:
adb push, adb install
though if you don't want to install this nice utility, you can just install a File Browser and then install the package.
Now here's a quirk that cost me about an hour: Using the default settings, UniversalAndroot only claimed to successfully get root-access, but left everything unchanged! Only after finding a comment on some website did I try to check both check-boxes (log and temporary install) - this time it worked (it installs yet another app called SuperUser)! (I then ran it again without the temporary setting enabled, which at least did not revoke the SuperUser-Account). Anyways, adb is handy in this case again because you can just log in with
Code:
adb shell
and check if
Code:
su
gives you root access or says "Permission denied".
2) Deleting /system/etc/install-recovery.sh I got that idea from androidforums.com, and will probably never know whether it was really necessary. That just shows how desperate I became after 3 hours of poking around in the dark.
3) Installing ROM Manager from Google Market There's probably a quicker way to install recovery images, which does not involve a damn Google account! Or maybe it is not even neccesary.
4) Downloading and installing ClockWorkMod Recovery I did this using the ROM Manager. Again, there might be a more direct way. In any case, I was paranoid enough to install it twice, as it was recommended that way somewhere.
5) Downloading cm-7.2.0-hero.zip and putting it on /sdcard/ Again, I just used
Code:
adb push cm-7.2.0-hero.zip /sdcard/
to accomplish this, but my guess is you can just as well do it via USB.
6) Format cache, /data/factory, /boot and /system By that, I mean do this in ClockWorkMod (you get there by booting up with HOME+POWER). The last two locations to reformat are "hidden" in the menu partitions. This step is very important because without it, Cyanogenmod did only loop infinitely (for more than 10min) in its loading screen! I got this idea from the more detailed description at droidforums.
7) Install Cyanogenmod using ClockWorkMod That's straight forward; just select the image from sdcard and you're done!
Hope I didn't forget a vital step, and maybe it is helpful to somebody; at the very least my future ME will maybe find it useful again .