UK Vodafone HTC Magic Root help!!!!!!!! - myTouch 3G, Magic General

Hello,
I have been trying to root my friends HTC Magic following instructions I have found on this and other forums and having no luck.
The phone in question is a vodafone htc magic.
My problem is that the computer does'nt recognise the phone as the drivers don't seem to work for it!
Could somebody please post a step by step guide for Noobs so I can see where I am going wrong!
I rooted my Hero no problems, but the Magic is proving a bit more of a challange!!!!!!
Many thanks,
Iain

You could do what I did which I've summarised below. There's probably more backup steps than is necessary, but you can never be too careful.
There's loads of guides out there with the guides and detail, e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519523
but they seem to branch in and out of methods quite a bit. I've added a few links to the pages I used for the detail.
The method I used is the 1 click backdoor, which also disables OTA updates to stop it being closed in the future I think.
First off, I'm a Linux noob and managed okay because the apps are so well thought out, but this is all done at your own risk.
Secondly, your uk Magic Vodafone prob has 32b board, not 32a.
(There's plenty on this forum. Or the Cyanogen one on the Dream forum works for 32b too.)
You can check with extra step by powering off, then on power again while holding back button. Last digits at top tell you the board details. Menu button gets you back.
0) Install the Android USB driver, connect, mount, then disconnect, etc.
http://dl.google.com/android/android_usb_windows.zip
1) Use google to sync all your contacts, etc. to google account so restore is automatic.
2) Use Astro to Backup your apps etc to the sd card
3) Goto wireless settings, mobile networks, apn, select and make note of your vodafone UK APN details (so you can type your 3g settings back)
4) Use USB to copy your SD card to your PC
5) From your phone, Download Cyanogen recovery. Don't run yet.
http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/
( This basically automates the rooting and booting to this recovery image : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558 )
6) From your phone, Download a rom image; the 32b board you prob have in your UK Magic allows you to use 32b ones, I used the Cyanogen one here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204
7) Use Astro to move the rom file from \sdcard\download to root of \sdcard
8) Run Cyanogen recovery 1.4 1-click root installed in 5.
Use Backup recovery image
Use Flash recovery
9) Poweroff, home + power to get into the custom recovery image
10) Select Nandroid backup to create new backup (this copies your phone to your SD card)
11) Reboot. Repeat 3 to get the backup of the nandroid folder, and the recovery image created in 7 and 9 onto your PC
12) Run Cyanogen recovery 1.4 1-click root installed in 5 again.
Flash recovery (this makes next boot 'special')
13) Reboot. Poweroff, hold home + power on again.
14) Select WIPE (You did backup your apps and SD card data right?).
15) Then select apply any zip from sd.
Follow instructions to install the Cyanogen rom image you moved to the root of your SD Card in 6 and 7
16) Wait 10 mins or so. The last message about writing root or whatever doesn't explicitly say finished.
17) Reboot.
If you have reboot hang, most people report is because missed WIPE step. Otherwise consult the relevant forum for the Rom you downloaded.
18) Do the new user settings thing. The activation and sync will fail cos you've not got 3G yet.
19) Goto network settings, advanced, APN, type in your vodafone UK APN details (so you can type your 3g settings back)
20) Done
21) If you've got Cyanogen Install the updater from marketplace (search for Cyanogen), or here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544663
I also installed:
Audio resources unzipped to your SD Card root from the Cyanogen rom pages, this reinstates notifications and ringtones I guess were removed to allow the memory obsessives to keep their phones clean.
SetCPU from this site, to override the default Cyanogen high overclock settings when phone is sleeping.
Cheers
Chris

Hi Chris,
Thanks alot for that, my friend is coming over after the F1 so will give it a go and let you know how we get on!!!!!
Thanks alot for your help!
iain

Hi!
Did you solved the problem, I seem to have the very same problem as you

trying to get cyanogen on my uk htc magic
Hi,
I have been trying to get cyanogen on my vodafone uk htc magic for a few hours now, not even getting close though!
The problem is, i already have the proper 1.6 update which vodafone pushed out a couple weeks back, and now want to root my phone and get cyanogens 1.6 on it. The flashrec application only runs on early versions of cupcake i believe, so my first step was to get that on my phone. (I have been following this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod aswell as trying the guide on this forum thread)
When i quickboot the phone and try to install the 1.5 update, it goes all the way through with the progress bar in the top right, then fails right at the end on 'Model ID Incorrect! Update Fail!'. When i reboot the phone it is just as it was before.
I have also tried putting the cm-recovery-1.4.img file on the memory card and installing that from flashboot but that also fails.
Do you have any ideas / recommendations for getting cyanogen on there?
Thanks,
Aaron
[email protected]
Skype: atrout1991

aaron465 said:
Hi,
I have been trying to get cyanogen on my vodafone uk htc magic for a few hours now, not even getting close though!
The problem is, i already have the proper 1.6 update which vodafone pushed out a couple weeks back, and now want to root my phone and get cyanogens 1.6 on it. The flashrec application only runs on early versions of cupcake i believe, so my first step was to get that on my phone. (I have been following this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_MT3G/Magic_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod aswell as trying the guide on this forum thread)
When i quickboot the phone and try to install the 1.5 update, it goes all the way through with the progress bar in the top right, then fails right at the end on 'Model ID Incorrect! Update Fail!'. When i reboot the phone it is just as it was before.
I have also tried putting the cm-recovery-1.4.img file on the memory card and installing that from flashboot but that also fails.
Do you have any ideas / recommendations for getting cyanogen on there?
Thanks,
Aaron
[email protected]
Skype: atrout1991
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Is there a solution for this?

I did get this working in the end, was quite a while ago now though...
I am pretty sure that I used the relentless rooter program to get it working in the end, details/download are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556200
Aaron

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First time ROMing, Rogers HTC Magic, Lessons Learned

So, i'm sure there's many posts about this, but I thought I'd drop in my 2 cents. Basically, the purpose of this post is to try and help completely new users get acquainted with the world of Android "ROMing". I know there's beginners tutorials and wiki's and such, and I'm very grateful for all the time put into them by their writers, but the fact remains that they're written by experts, and as such, their expertise shines through and can sometimes confuse new users such as my self.
Up front: I'm an AT&T customer who's using a Rogers branded HTC Magic purchased from ImportGSM. I'm using Rogers cause Rogers has the same 3G bands as AT&T. I am coming from a Sony-Ericsson dumbphone. I use Gmail for my primary email and applied for a Google Voice account a while ago (got the account before getting the phone). I'm a practicing computer engineer so if I lapse into jargon, I apologize.
READ THE ENTIRE POST BEFORE PERFORMING THESE ACTIONS
OK, so you got an android phone (if you're on this forum, its most likely an HTC Magic/Dream/Hero) and you want to install new ROMs onto it (for whatever reason, just to do it, to get more functionality, to remove the carrier 'branding', whatever). You've done your research. You've read through the wikis (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking) and you're still a little confused as to where to start, or you're worried you're gonna brick your phone.
First, relax, as long as you follow the instructions, there's little chance of bricking your phone.
Second, some vocab:
SPL: Secondary Program Loader. don't worry too much about this, you shouldn't have to mess with it. I like to think of it as your phones BIOS. There's an off chance that you'll have a "perfected" SPL (.0006 or .0010), which basically means that you have a phone that is hardened against hackers, but as long as you use the one touch root method described below, you won't even notice it. You won't be able to use the Adb/Fastboot/Android SDK method mentioned below, you'll just get a "no access" error when you try to terminal into your phone.
ROM: Catch all term for software to be loaded onto your android. Generally comes in two flavors, a Recovery ROM, and what I call an Operating System ROM. A Recovery ROM is what gives you root access. An Operating System ROM is the user experience (where Amon_Ra or Cyanogen or others mix and match features to make a better user experience). I know that Operating System ROM might be misleading, but its the closest computer analogy I could come up with.
Now, this process will completely refresh your phone, removing all of your contacts, apps, etc. So before you start, if you have stuff on your phone you want to save, best copy them somewhere off your phone now. There's free apps out there to do all of this.
Lets get started.
Now, the first thing you're gonna wanna do is get something called "root" access to your phone. This allows you to install those fancy homebrewed ROMs that people are talking about. To get root, you have to install a recovery ROM. Installing a recovery ROM is is roughly similar to flashing a new BIOS on your computer. Except in this case, its on your phone and it gives you unrestricted access to the phone (like the Root user in Linux). There's two ways of getting Root. The first way is to install the Android SDK onto your computer and image your android with one of the recovery ROMs via your computers command line. I won't get into details on this one because its not the method I chose, and instructions are all over the web on this one. NOTE that this method doesn't work with updated Rogers phones. They installed the 'Perfected' .0010 SPL effectively removing remote command line access thus making this method a non-starter. The other way is to use the "one click root" program, which is a program you install on your Android phone. To do this, go to the one click root website (http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2009/08/16/android-rooting-in-1-click-in-progress/). Download the .apk file and drop it onto the SD card in the Android phone (you'll have to connect the phone to your computer via USB, and select "Mount SD card". then simply drag and drop the .apk onto the SD card in your computer's file browser). Then, on the android phone, open up your file browser (I suggest Astro or Linda, both free downloads from the market) and open the .apk using the default Android application launcher. It should be a dark screen with a text box and a few buttons. The textbox should have a URL in it pointing to a .img recovery image (This is the cyanogen one). You'll first want to make a backup of your current (factory) ROM by pressing the (i believe) botton button. It'll work for a few seconds. Then you're ready to flash the recovery ROM. You can either accept the default (the cyanogen, which works fine) or specify a different ROM (such as Amon_Ra's which has slightly more capabilities) by entering in a different path (URL or path to SD card if you have a recovery image stored on the SD card). Then hit the first button to begin the flash. Wait for it to finish. DO NOT DISTURB THE PHONE WHILE FLASHING.
Once its finished flashing, congrats, you've rooted your phone. Now power off the phone, and power it back on while while holding power and Home. Hold Power and Home the entire time till you see an 'old computer' style menu come up. Should have some options such as reboot, install update.zip, install other .zip, wipe data/factory reset, etc. you should be able to use the trackball to cycle through the selections. The botton should have something like <cyanogen/Amon_Ra> recovery vX.X.X. If you see this screen, then you've successfully rooted your phone. Congrats.
Now, before you do anything else, IMMEDIATELY perform a nandroid backup. This should be on of the options in the recovery ROM. What this is doing is creating a backup of your current phone configuration so if anything goes wrong with installing the hacked ROM, you can revert to the state the phone is in now.
Next, perform a data wipe. There should be a selection for "wipe data/factory reset" or something similar. Select that. Wait for it to finish wiping your data from the SD card.
Now to install other hacked ROMs, just download whatever ROM you want to install from the xda site. Check the bottom of this page for a listing of the main ones (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking). It should download as a .zip. Copy the .zip file (DON'T UNZIP IT) onto the root of the SD Card (you can do this while in recovery mode by mounting the SD card or by physically removing the SD card from the phone and putting it into a card reader on your computer and copying the files). Once you have the ROM .zip on the SD card, with the SD card in the phone, select "install other .zip" or something similar and select the .zip file of the ROM you want to run. Should be some combination of the creators name (Amon_Ra or CM (for CyanogenMod)), what board the .zip is for (32A, 32B), what version the ROM is (4.1.1 or something). Then select "home" to confirm that you want to do this and wait for the periods to stop appearing. Once it stops, you should be able to select "reboot".
After it reboots (you should see different splash screens than when it was factory configured, except for the very first screen which on mine is "Rogers". Mine goes from Rogers to "Android" spelled out in blue text) you should have a fully functioning phone running a hacked ROM.
If it doesn't boot fully (which mine did a few times), try a different ROM or try wiping your data again. If all else fails, go into your recovery ROM (power and Home) and restore the Nandroid recovery image you made earlier.
Once it boots, it should have a tutorial on how to use Android.
When you get to the google login, I would suggest setting up your APN settings prior to doing that. At the google login screen, hit the menu button and select "APN Settings". Select add new APN (either an on screen choice or brought up by the menu button) and add in the APN details for your provider. You can find these easily by googling "<your provider> APN settings". Log into Google and you should up and running.
I just kinda threw this semi-tutorail together, so it may be a little confusing, but I tried to explain everything as best as I could. I know that i found all of the different ways to get root and the different ROMs and such to be very confusing. Just throwing out how I went about doing it.
Disclaimer: one click root works by exploiting a vulnerability in Android, which was closed by Google on Aug 11 or so. Therefore, if you have a factory Android build from that was released after Aug 11, one click root may not work for you, and you'll have to go the SDK route. I updated my Rogers phone in mid oct 2009, and my build was still prior to Aug 11, so don't just assume cause its after Aug 11 that it won't work on your phone.
thanks alot for the tutorial! you're a saint, i've been looking all over for something exactly like this!
i will test this out and let you know!
Edit:
I was successful! Huzzah! Thanks for the guide again!
What rom did you load onto your phone?
Also,
Could you give a brief tutorial on what exactly changing the radio and spl are?

[GUIDE 16/11/09] Get started rooting Telus HERO130! (No need for QMAT!)

Yay, I've finally found a reliable way to do this. After completing these steps, you'll be able to install any GSM Hero ROM. Still, neither I, nor anyone else, can be blamed if something goes wrong and you end up with a shiny paperweight.
-2. Changelog
16/11/09
Updated to Amon_RA's latest recovery image
15/11/09
First release of the guide!
-1. Thanks!
This guide would not have been possible without:
TheUnlockr (great guides)
Amon_RA (recovery image)
xda-developers (need I say more?)
MoDaCo (Excellent ROM)
QMAT (GoldCard)
craig0r (first to root the Telus Hero)
pi3ch (copy from cmd)
And everyone involved in rooting the Dream, the Sapphire, the Hero, and Android in general. Many thanks to everyone involved!
0. Before we start!
If you haven't installed all the drivers for your phone already, follow the instructions on this page to do so. It also shows you the basics of ADB.
Also, a forewarning: there are reports that not all microSD cards work. If yours doesn't work, try another one. Hopefully you'll still have some dough in your wallet by the time you find one that works. Just kidding.
Also, not all microSD readers work either. I have one that just refused to write the GoldCard image to the card, but thankfully, my laptop's SD slot worked.
And, these steps have only been tested on Windows XP 32bit. If you use anything newer, it may or may not work, but most importantly, if you want any chance of it working, you'll want to run most of these apps and commands in Administrator mode.
Finally, make sure you have a Wi-Fi connection, as your data connection will be lost at some point while you need to download something from the Market.
1. Downloads!
You'll want to get all your downloads before starting this.
HxD
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_2.73.405.5_WWE_release_signed_NoDriver.exe
flashrec
Amon_RA's recovery image
Updated radio
2. Prepare your phone!
On your phone, go to:
Settings > Applications > Development
There, check USB debugging.
3. Backup your APN settings!
Go to the Market and install APN Backup and Restore. Run it, and backup your APN settings with it. This is necessary to restore data access after rooting.
4. Get your GoldCard image!
The GoldCard bypasses some weird check on the phone and allows you to flash ROMs that are otherwise rejected, due to them being older versions, or some other reason that HTC decided it'd be so.
With the USB cable plugged in, open the notifications shade and tap HTC Sync. It doesn't matter if it can't sync, but what matters is you can enter the adb shell. If you don't know how, you haven't done step 0.
Now, go in adb shell and run this command:
Code:
cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid
The output is your microSD card's serial number. Right click anywhere in the command prompt, and click on Mark. Then, select the serial number, and right click. The serial is now copied into the clipboard, so open up Notepad and paste it there.
Now, with that serial number written down, paste it into my lame GoldCard hex reverse. Please credit me if you use that page in your guide!
Next, do as my page says, grab the reversed serial number and get your GoldCard image with it.
5. Create your GoldCard!
So now you have your GoldCard image. Remember, this GoldCard image is valid only for the card from which you got the serial number. If you use another card, get another image.
Turn off your phone, take the microSD out and plug it into the your preferred reader. Again, not all readers work. Not all microSDs work.
Now, unplug from your computer any removable storage except for the microSD. This is to avoid confusion in the next step.
Before making the GoldCard, backup anything you need from the microSD, as it may get erased in the process. Most importantly, backup the APN settings that we got earlier, from APN Backup and Restore.
Now open up HxD. From here, you'll open two things. Your microSD in the raw, and the GoldCard image in the raw.
To open your microSD go to:
Extras > Open disk
In the pop up, under Physical disks, select the (supposedly only) Removable Storage. If there are two, I don't know which one is the right one, so unplug more stuff from your computer.
Before you click OK, be sure to uncheck Open as Readonly. We can't make a GoldCard if we can't write on it, right?
To open your GoldCard image, go to:
Extras > Open disk image
There, select your downloaded goldcard.img file, and click Open, and then OK.
Now you should have two tabs open in HxD, one being the microSD, and the other, active one being the GoldCard image.
Press Ctrl+A on your keyboard to select all, then Ctrl+C on your keyboard to copy. Switch to the microSD's tab, make sure the cursor is at the complete top-left corner, and then press Ctrl+B to paste, and then Ctrl+S to save. Accept the risk and your GoldCard should be made.
To verify, close the microSD's tab, eject it, unplug and replug it, and reopen it in HxD like we did earlier. It should still have the GoldCard image written at the beginning of it. If not, either the microSD or the reader or both don't like making GoldCards, so you'll want to try a different combination of card and reader.
6. Downgrade!
Let's flash the downgraded ROM now. Plug your microSD, now a GoldCard, into the phone and turn it on. After it finishes booting, turn on HTC Sync. Again, it doesn't need to actually synchronize.
Now, run the RUU you downloaded earlier and follow the steps. If the GoldCard works, it should flash and you'll end up with a downgraded phone. If not, then you either didn't write down the microSD's serial number correctly, or the microSD doesn't like to do its job.
Set up the downgraded phone with the default settings, and turn on Wi-Fi. Get on your Wi-Fi network and install Linda File Manager.
Now, on the phone, check:
Settings > Applications > Unknown sources
Now turn on USB Storage, and copy flashrec and Amon_RA's recovery image to the microSD. Rename the recovery image to recovery.img to save a headache later. You may as well put the backed up APN files back on the microSD too, if they got erased.
Disconnect USB storage, load up Linda, go in the SD card, and install flashrec using Package Installer. Now, load up Recovery Flasher, press on backup, then type in:
Code:
/sdcard/recovery.img
Now press Flash recovery.
7. Update the radio
The radio that came with the downgrade is quirky in North American networks. We'll update to the latest IU radio, which works with our networks here.
First, reboot into the new patched recovery. Turn off the phone, and then turn it back on while holding the Home button. Keep holding it until you see the recovery menu.
Once you're there, scroll down using the trackball to turn on USB Mass storage. Plug the phone in the computer if it wasn't plugged already. The microSD will show up on the computer. Copy the updated radio zip to the root of the microSD wait a few seconds, then turn off USB Mass storage on the phone.
Now, select Flash update image, and then Apply sdcard:choose zip. There, the radio zip should show up. Select it and flash it.
8. You're pretty much done at this point.
Follow any guide to install a Hero ROM, to partition your microSD, etc. After you install a custom ROM, be sure to reinstall APN Backup and Restore from the market, and restore your APN settings. This will restore data.
well the "asroot" method of rooting from the guide in the CDMA forum may be worth trying...perhaps they haven't fixed the vulenrability?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581577 (all the way up to before the recovery image)
Ya tried that method don't work
yeah I would love to root this thing.
To be honest this is my first smartphone and I'm new at this rooting thing. I did manage to throw on a hack for my ipod nano (colored version)
I'm loving this phone so far - got it first day they announced their new network. I'm so impressed
Did either of you buy another SD card? Where did you grab yours if you did?
My Telus Hero has been rooted since Friday.
Check it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4909063&postcount=16
Yeah I just saw. I'll get familiar with the process then update the first post.
Thanks a bunch!
I posted in the other thread (so... sorry for the double post), but I think that this thread is more relevant to the question/issue of rooting.
Could someone who still has the stock Telus ROM post the Baseband version? (Home -> Settings -> About phone -> Baseband version)
I'm just curious as to whether we Telus users should upgrade or downgrade the radio version after rooting the phone, as I seem to be having dialing issues (long distance numbers require a "+" in front of the "1" or it won't connect.)
I dunno if this issue would be related to the radio, or to the fact that there are no North American locales selectable within the custom ROM.
Stock Baseband
63.18.55.06DAU_6.35.08.20
Still wating to see how others are successful with rooting their Telus Hero.
sjeffrey said:
63.18.55.06DAU_6.35.08.20
Still wating to see how others are successful with rooting their Telus Hero.
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Same here. My stock Telus Hero reports the same version as above (just to add to the data pool). I'll be watching this thread for more details on rooting.
I rooted using the goldcard>2.73.405>recovery>modaco2.9>IU baseband and it works no problem. I can dial 611, long distance numbers dont need a + or a 1 for that matter, and market enabler lets me buy paid apps. Device seems quicker. I had to try 3 different sd cards though. I know I was doing the first one wrong, but one of them definately did not work.
I mentioned in the other Telus Hero thread that I updated my radio to the IU version, and my dialing issues have gone away. Thought I should mention it here as well.
I'm still waiting for a method that doesn't require calling Telus to fix settings though.
Say, is your Hero the black or white one? And, is it a HERO130 or a HERO100?
I keep getting an invalid model ID error when I try flashing the downgrade. Is that what you had the times it didn't work for you?
Soaa- said:
I'm still waiting for a method that doesn't require calling Telus to fix settings though.
Say, is your Hero the black or white one? And, is it a HERO130 or a HERO100?
I keep getting an invalid model ID error when I try flashing the downgrade. Is that what you had the times it didn't work for you?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the error I got when I didn't have a proper Gold Card. If you've tried the same SD card a number of times and it's still not working, maybe grab a cheap Sandisk 1GB card. That's what I used.
And you shouldn't have to call Telus, because I've already gone through the pain of figuring all this stuff out. Just make sure you grab the APN settings from the other thread, and update to the latest radio (IU) and you're good. A call to Telus was required because I couldn't receive MMS messages, but that had nothing to do with rooting the phone, I would've had to call them anyway.
When I look up "Model Number" in my phone's settings, it just says HTC Hero. So I dunno. The custom ROM probably did that. I guess.
the model name might be written in the battery compartment area. i know on my htc tytn the name is there as "HERM200"
pretty sure it was mentioned that the telus hero is HERO130
As profets said, the model ID is under the battery. Mine says HERO130, and in bootloader mode, it says HERO13000. Since the downgrade ROM is for HERO10000, it threw an invalid model ID error.
Soaa- said:
As profets said, the model ID is under the battery. Mine says HERO130, and in bootloader mode, it says HERO13000. Since the downgrade ROM is for HERO10000, it threw an invalid model ID error.
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Ah cool. I just checked under the battery, it's a 130. So you should still be able to downgrade.
Really strange. I tried a Kingston 2GB like they said on the guide and verified that the GoldCard image was well written on the card. Yet it still throws error 130.
Soaa- said:
Really strange. I tried a Kingston 2GB like they said on the guide and verified that the GoldCard image was well written on the card. Yet it still throws error 130.
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I used the 2GB sd card comes with the phone to create goldcard. Rooted.
No problem at all, I don't know why you guys wanna use other SD cards.
I'm pretty sure I've tried all my cards... I'll try again tonight.
Hah! Got it to work. Guide is done.
I also quickly put together a webpage to reverse the CID of the microSD. That way, people won't need to download QMAT anymore. The page can be found here: http://hexrev.soaa.me
Enjoy!

HELP ! ROM Update to Android 2.0 / 2.1

Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
Code:
fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
anon2122 said:
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?

Orange rom to stock?

I currently have a Hero on stock Orange UK rom.
is it possible/worth it to flash it over to the HTC stock so that i get the over the air update when it is out?
Gamma Ray said:
I currently have a Hero on stock Orange UK rom.
is it possible/worth it to flash it over to the HTC stock so that i get the over the air update when it is out?
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I dont think this is possible or will damage your phone if you try.. the only way to get 2.1 on your orange phone early is to get root access and flash a custom rom..
Dont quote me on that.. but it could be a very bad idea to try it.
Cheers, but can anyone shed a little more light?
I flashed my Hero with the stock Orange ROM over to the 2.73.405.5 WWE release without issue using a Gold Card, as soon as I installed it I had the notification for Part 1 of the 2.1 update and that installed without issue.
I'm actually having significant signal improvements since I changed over to the ROM.
alexmunroe said:
I flashed my Hero with the stock Orange ROM over to the 2.73.405.5 WWE release without issue using a Gold Card, as soon as I installed it I had the notification for Part 1 of the 2.1 update and that installed without issue.
I'm actually having significant signal improvements since I changed over to the ROM.
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Would you mind to post here how you did it...
I'm having to post this as a quote since I can't post outside links yet.
Make sure you have an SD Adapter to put your MicroSD in so you can plug it into a computer and access it.
I. Download and Install the Android SDK and USB drivers (If you already have this done, skip this section).
1. Follow our video procedure on HOW TO SETUP ADB/USB DRIVERS.
II. Create a “GoldCard” from a MicroSD Card
1. Put the memory card you want to use for the GoldCard into your phone.
2. With the memory card in your phone, click on Settings, SD and Phone storage, then click Unmount SD card. Once it unmounts, click Format SD card. (Please keep in mind that some memory cards don’t work, and this will erase all data on your SD Card so back all the data up first to your computer)
3. On the Phone, goto Settings, Applications, Development and then make sure USB Debugging is checked.
4. *Make sure you have installed the SDK and Fastboot correctly from Section I!!!
Plug the phone into the computer and then open the Command Prompt (goto the start menu and type in cmd in the search box). Then type the following with hitting enter at the end of each line.
cd\
cd\AndroidSDK\tools\
adb devices
(wait for the it to show a serial number underneath, if it doesn’t then reinstall the drivers from section I). Then type:
adb shell
cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid
5. A code will display, write the code down (MAKE SURE TO WRITE IT DOWN EXACTLY!)
6. Goto this site, hexrev.soaa.me/, then put in your code you just wrote down into the text box and click submit. It will generate the code reversed and replace the first two digits with zeros automatically. Write that down and continue to step 9.
7. Now, on your computer, goto revskills.de/pages/goldcard.html and enter your email in the appropriate field and for CID enter the reversed CID you just got from hexrev.soaa.me/
8. Click continue and then you will receive your goldcard.img via email. Once it arrives save it to your computer.
9. Now, goto download.cnet.com/HxD-Hex-Editor/3000-2352-10891068.html?part=dl-HxDHexEdi&subj=uo&tag=button to download the HxD Hex Editor. Save it and install it to your computer.
10. Take your SD card out of your phone and put it into the SD adapter it came with. Then put that into your computer so it shows up on your computer as Removable Disk.
11. Open the Hex Editor (Run as Administrator if one Vista or Windows 7) and click on the Extra tab, then click on Open Disk. Under Physical Disk select Removable Disk (your SD card you just put into the computer). Make sure to UNcheck “Open as ReadOnly”. Click OK.
12. Goto the Extra tab again and click Open Disk Image. Open up the goldcard.img that you saved from your email. You should now have two tabs, one is the SD card (Removable Disk) and the other is the goldcard.img
Press OK when prompted for Sector Size 512 (Hard Disks/Floppy Disks).
13. Click on the Goldcard.img tab and click on the Edit tab and click Select All. Then click on the Edit tab again and click Copy.
14. Click on the Removable Disk tab (Your SD Card) and select offset 00000000 to 00000170 then click on the Edit tab and click Paste Write.
15. Click on File then click Save.
16. Close the Hex Editor.
17. Test what we’ve done:
Take out the memory card from the computer, then put it back in.
Try to open the memory card on the computer (Removable Disk), if it lets you, you are all set. If it asks/tells you to reformat the card, then try steps 13 – 19 again. If it gives you the same error again, then try a different memory card (Erlern said it didn’t work for him until he finally went and bought a Kingston 2GB card, then it worked on that card only).
18. Put the GoldCard into your phone and reboot the phone with the GoldCard inside.​
This was taken directly from theunlockr.com/2009/10/18/how-to-downgrade-your-htc-hero-so-it-can-be-rooted/ and as such I take no responsibility for any issues that arise as a result of using it.
I then flashed the official HTC WWE 2.73.405.5 release from here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622 . It took me a few goes to get it to initialise but once that was done I had the unbranded release ready for upgrading.
Once that was installed I set-up the phone again, set the date forward by a year and was then prompted to install the 1st part of the update.
i dont want to move to the orange rom, i want to move to the stock HTC hero rom.
Currently i am on UK Orange build: 2.73.61.5 146733 CL#61267 release-keys
ive seen the root in one click thing, could i do that and install the stock?
can someone provide a lamens terms guide and a link to the stock htc rom for the UK? i would be really grateful!
OK.
Just follow the goldcard guide at http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=375#p4956
When you reach the step "2. Loading the Custom ROM", then you don't need to continue. That will have you on a stock HTC ROM.
As for what you do after that, it's up to you. You can take updates using your goldcard if it's an RUU, or take OTAs.
Personally, I would root and go the custom ROM route, but if it isn't for you, then that's how to do it ^^^^^
Gamma Ray said:
i dont want to move to the orange rom, i want to move to the stock HTC hero rom.
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To what end? You won't get much benefit from having a stock ROM over the Orange one tbh, aside from being able to remove those pesky Orange bookmarks and boot screen.
If you want a 1.5 ROM, I'd highly recommend Kimera 1.8. It's bloody fast. Look for the newbie guide to rooting your phone, it's in the dev section, as well as Kimera.
TBH though, if I were rooting from Orange stock ROM, I'd probably go with a 2.1 ROM such as Cronos Droid or VillainROM. They work fine, are fast and have all the goodies from 2.1 and a few from 2.2.
anon2122 said:
OK.
Just follow the goldcard guide at (REMOVED LINK SO I COULD POST)
When you reach the step "2. Loading the Custom ROM", then you don't need to continue. That will have you on a stock HTC ROM.
As for what you do after that, it's up to you. You can take updates using your goldcard if it's an RUU, or take OTAs.
Personally, I would root and go the custom ROM route, but if it isn't for you, then that's how to do it ^^^^^
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What does RUU mean? Im looking to move off the Orange ROM to the stock HTC rom so i can receive OTA updates. will doing what you say and following that guide up to step 2 will it leave me with the latest version of the stock ROM an able to do this?
Do i also need to use the goldcard? i had a quick look at that site and i have the version of the ORANGE UK ROM (2.73.61.5) that i could do the recovery image section with?
mikeyd85 said:
To what end? You won't get much benefit from having a stock ROM over the Orange one tbh, aside from being able to remove those pesky Orange bookmarks and boot screen.
If you want a 1.5 ROM, I'd highly recommend Kimera 1.8. It's bloody fast. Look for the newbie guide to rooting your phone, it's in the dev section, as well as Kimera.
TBH though, if I were rooting from Orange stock ROM, I'd probably go with a 2.1 ROM such as Cronos Droid or VillainROM. They work fine, are fast and have all the goodies from 2.1 and a few from 2.2.
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I want to receive OTA updates and ive heard reports of better signal (i live in a very poor signal area), ive also heard the orange update wont be coming or wont be coming for a while.
Im not really wanting to go down the custom ROM route for stability purposes, I had cyanogen on my G1 and it was less stable than stock and had so much clutter i didn't want.
RUU is official update file HTC give you on their site.
Fair enough if you go down stock route, but custom ROMs have come a long way since then. You could always try something like villainrom and see how it goes, as it is based on the gsm update for 2.1
If you install the htc 2.1, then you will be stuck on it forever, as it wont be rootable.

[HOW TO] Fix the "Low on space" problem (in plain English)

The Problem
The HTC Droid Incredible shows a "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low" warning despite having gobs of space free because the "Application data storage" folder (also known as /data/data) that is shared by all apps on the phone is only 150mb in size. As soon as only 10% of this folder is available, the warning appears. If it gets too much lower, apps stop responding and the phone crashes.
The Story
After many months of clearing app data, uninstalling apps, resetting my phone, and generally walking on eggshells trying to keep my data storage under the limit, I was getting ready to upgrade my device. I would search every few weeks to see if anyone had solved the problem, but all I found were more people stuck in my boat, and I was ready to give up. But then I stumbled across a series of threads on xda-developers.com that gave me new hope. In the course of one night, I learned from scratch how to root my phone, and I applied a fix that increased the "Application data storage" folder to a whopping 750mb. I am now able to download as many apps as I'd like and not have to worry about clearing out app data ever again.
However, it took a bit of scouring the forums and reading various guides to figure out how to do all this. Some of the items are quite technical in nature, and some of the guides skip steps that more experienced users would know how to do already. So I joined the forum to write this guide for the "regular" users out there like myself. My goal is to explain in plain English how to fix this nagging issue once and for all and to consolidate all the relevant info and files into one place. If you find this useful, please share this with others so we can all fully enjoy our phones!
The Credits
I did not invent any of the steps, tools, or methods I am about to describe. Hats off to the following people for supplying all the info and files I needed to fix the problem and write this how-to thread. Please let me know if I've missed anyone that should be mentioned and I will add them.
vbhines for the "New to Modding/Rooting" guide
The unrevoked team for their excellent one-click rooting software and drivers
dreamersipaq for the guide to rooting an Incredible
scotty1223 for the guide to rooting a 2.3.4 Incredible
jermaine151 for the "no data limit" mod that actually fixes the problem
cmlusco and tiny4579 for all their help answering questions and troubleshooting in this thread
The Ingredients
Here's what you'll need to perform this fix:
An HTC Incredible (obviously) with an SD card
A micro USB cable (you can use the one you charge your phone with)
A computer with a USB port and internet access (PC, Mac, or Linux)
An hour of free time
The Fix
Step 1: Read the "New to Modding/Rooting" guide so you know what you're getting into and can understand the terminology: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744807
Step 2: Back up your contacts, pictures, etc. This guide is safe for your phone and will not erase any of your data if you follow it correctly, but it never hurts to back things up just in case.
Step 3a: Make sure your phone is decently charged. (at least 50%)
Step 3b: Make sure your phone isn't currently showing the "low on space" error. Delete some apps or data until the error goes away. You don't want to go through all this effort only to have your phone crash halfway through!
Step 4: Uninstall HTC sync software from your computer. Also make sure you are not running any software that communicates to your phone using USB, such as PDANet or DoubleTwist. If you haven't had to plug your phone into your computer to do anything prior to now, you're probably OK.
Step 5: On your phone, go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Development and put a check in the "USB debugging" box.
Step 6: Plug your phone into your computer, select "Charge Only", select "remember my selection", click "Done", and then unplug your phone.
Step 7: If you are on a Windows PC, follow this user-friendly guide to install the USB drivers you'll need: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
When I did this step, I actually found my Android entry from the first screenshot in the guide under "Android Phone" and it did not say "Android 1.0". Don't worry, you can still use this entry to continue with the next step in the guide to "Update Driver Software".
Mac and Linux users can skip this step.
Step 8: Root your phone. This step is a bit more involved, so be sure to read the directions carefully. On your phone, go to Menu -> Settings -> About phone -> Software information and look at what it says under "Android version" at the top.
If it says 2.3.4, do this:
Download Clockwork 5.0.2.0: http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/CWM_5.0.2.0/PB31IMG.zip (link updated 6/22/12)
Extract the recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc.img from the zip file and put it somewhere you'll remember.
Download Unrevoked 3.22 (this is intentionally NOT the latest version): http://dinc.does-it.net/Unrevoked/Unrevoked_3.22.exe (link updated 6/22/12)
Run Unrevoked_3.22.exe
Inside the program, go to File -> Custom Recovery and select the .img file from above. At the bottom of the program window, it should now say "Recovery: Custom" and "Waiting for device"
Plug in your phone and wait while Unrevoked runs automatically. It will reboot your phone several times and will take some time, so be patient!
Once it's done, unplug your phone and ensure that a "Superuser Permissions" application is inside your app drawer. Don't run it. Instead, go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> All, scroll down to "Superuser Permissions", click it, then click "Clear data". Return back Home.
If it says anything other than 2.3.4, do this:
Download Unrevoked 3.32: http://www.unrevoked.com/recovery/
Run reflash_package.exe. It may start up right away, or it may ask you to extract the files. Put them somewhere you can find, and once the extraction is done, find and run reflash.exe.
Plug in your phone and wait while Unrevoked runs automatically. It will reboot your phone several times and will take some time, so be patient!
After the above steps, everyone should do this:
Launch the Android Market and search for "ROM Manager". The first result should be "ROM Manager" by ClockworkMod and it should have a picture of a top hat above a gear as its icon. Click it, then click "Download", then "Accept & download". If it is already installed, you can just return Home.
Once ROM Manager has finished installing, launch it and select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" (the first option). Confirm your phone model (HTC Incredible). A window will pop up asking for root permissions - click to allow it.
Optional: After the download completes, scroll down and click "Backup Current ROM". You may need a lot of space free on your SD card to perform this backup depending on what you have on your phone. Once you create this backup, you can use ROM Manager to fully restore your phone (including all apps, data, and settings) in case anything goes wrong. This can take a significant amount of time, so again, be patient!
If all went well, your phone should be exactly the same as it was before, except you now have a couple new apps, and more importantly, root access!
Step 9: On your phone, go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Development and uncheck the "USB debugging" box.
Step 10: Apply the Fix. This is the step you've been waiting for!
Go to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623038, click the link for the EXT4All files in the first post, download "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip", and put it somewhere you'll remember. You can also go directly to this URL to download the file: http://dinc.does-it.net/EXT4_Mods/ (links updated 6/22/12)
Plug your phone into your computer, bring down the notification bar, select the "USB connection type" item, select "Disk drive", and click Done.
On your computer, find your phone's SD card. If you're unsure which drive is your SD card, look at how big each drive is. The drive that has a size of 6.59GB is the phone's internal memory, so the other drive is the SD card. The SD card that comes with the Incredible is 1.83GB in size, but yours may be different if you bought your own SD card.
Move "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip" from your computer to the SD card. Do not put it inside any folders.
After the file has finished moving, bring down the notifications bar, select the "USB connection type" item, select "Charge only", then click done.
Unplug your phone from your computer.
Launch ROM Manager from your app drawer and click "Reboot into Recovery" (the second option). Click "OK" to proceed.
After the phone reboots, you will now see a black screen with some blue options on it. Use the volume buttons on the left to scroll down to "install zip from sdcard" and click the optical trackpad button at the bottom of the phone to select it.
Click "choose zip from sdcard" (the first option)
Scroll down to the very bottom and select "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip"
Scroll down to "Yes - Install Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip" and click it. This step will take some time to complete, and the progress bar may not move at all. Be patient!
Once it is done, click the power button at the top of your phone until you're back at the main menu, then select "Reboot system" (the first option). If you hit power too many times and end up with a blank screen, just hit power one more time and you'll see the menu.
When the phone is done rebooting after this last step, verify that the fix worked by going to Menu -> Settings -> SD & phone storage and look at the "Application data storage" section. It should now say that the "Total space" is 748mb!
At this point you can run happily through an open field, shout from the highest mountaintop, or just shed a tear of joy, because you can now install tons of apps and let them accumulate all the data they want. Enjoy!
P.S. Please let me know if any of these steps are incorrect or unclear so I can fix them. Thanks!
Troubleshooting
Here are a couple of issues people have come across while doing the steps in this guide, along with the solutions. Thanks to cmlusco for these helpful answers!
The guide says my phone should have rebooted back to the main screen, but I'm on a black screen with a bunch of blue options!
If you're on this step and the guide doesn't say you need to be here yet, just use the volume buttons to scroll to the "Reboot System Now" option and click the optical trackpad. Then you can continue on with the guide!
I'm stuck on a black screen with white bars on the side!
If your phone is "s-off", reflash the recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-inc.img file from Step #8 using hboot. To get to hboot, turn your phone off, hold the "volume down" button, and turn it back on. Keep holding the "volume down" button until you get to the menu where you can flash the .img file.
If your phone is not "s-off" or you have no idea what "s-off" means, run Unrevoked again with the same .img file from Step #8.
In either case, you should be able to continue using the guide from where you left off!
My phone keeps rebooting over and over and I can't do anything!
Pull out the battery, wait for 15 seconds, and put it back in and turn the phone back on. If it still keeps rebooting, pull out/re-insert the battery again, go into hboot (see above answer) and try the following steps. You can stop as soon as one of them works!
1. Restore a backup that you made in a previous step (if you have one).
2. Reflash the .img file from Step #8.
3. Flash the .img file here: http://dinc.does-it.net/wildstang83_inc_4.08.605.2_11232011.zip (note: this one will take you back to stock, so you'll have to start the guide over).
I'm still stuck!
If all else fails, please post your issue in this thread so someone can help you out. You can also try restoring your backup (you made a backup, right??) and starting over from the top. Good luck!
Potential Alternate Solution
Soniclude that was a great very detailed write up. Here is another option that I found that seems to also solve the dreaded low disk space...
Since you clearly outlined the steps for rooting your device, I wont go into that. But, why stop at fixing one of the most annoying stock problems. Rooting is half the battle to flashing a new rom - which is precisely what I did to stop the LDS issue.
I used to use CM7 and then flashed over to MIUI but recently I flashed the best rom I have used to date - ICS-Dinc AOKP (]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475936) which is a full fledged ICS port for your OG Dinc.
Since then I have not received any LDS errors (although I have not been using this ROM that long) but I would assume that it would be similar to my lengthy experience with CM7, in which I never got the LDS warning.
Here is what my device displays as available space for applications
View attachment 895332
As you can see I have used 144MB with 604MB free for a total of 748MB, identified as internal storage.
Also, just so you can see that this ROM is not an ICS overlay and is truly a port, here is the device info
View attachment 895331
72ls1's (the dev for ICS-Dinc AOKP) has some really good directions and make the process very easy.
For those that are interested and need a few more additional details, here are a few things that helped me:
1. Make sure you have backup your device data, this includes your apps, contacts (you should be just setting all contacts to sync with your gmail account to begin with), messages and email settings. Use an app like Titanium Backup for apps; Backup and Restore app for messages; Call Log Restore for calling
2. Download the zip files outline in the ROM posting of your chocie to your sdcard; They should be placed at the top level of your sdcard, meaning not in another folder. The zip files for ICS-Dinc AOK include the ICS-Dinc zip, Gapps (use this one gapps-ics-20120207-signed.zip - http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-ics-20120207-signed.zip), and Tiamat Kernel
3. In Recovery make a backup of your device (in case you need to flash back due to an error)
4. Within Recovery prior to flashing the rom make sure to unmount data, sdcard and cache
5. Then clear cache and dalivik-cache (this one is under the advanced options)
6. Do a factory reset
7. Install from zip in the following order: ICS-Dinc AOK V.02, Gapps, Tiamat
8. Reset your device
Now go enjoy the goodness of a fresh ice cream sandwich!
Hope this helps anyone else out there in either the low disk space issue or that is having questions about flashing a rom.
Where is Unrevoked 3.22?
I'm going to use the downgrade-and-reflash method to root my 2.3.4 Incredible and after reading the forums have spent the supper hour looking around for Unrevoked 3.22. There was a megaupload site that always says bandwidth is exceeded, and one more that I found where everything is in a language I can't decipher.
Does anybody have a working link to 3.22? All I want is to turn on my stupid wireless hotspot so my wife can use her Ipad in teh car without having to pay Verizon another $30 a month for access to data I already have. Argh!
Thanks,
Ryan
Captainjerky said:
I'm going to use the downgrade-and-reflash method to root my 2.3.4 Incredible and after reading the forums have spent the supper hour looking around for Unrevoked 3.22. There was a megaupload site that always says bandwidth is exceeded, and one more that I found where everything is in a language I can't decipher.
Does anybody have a working link to 3.22? All I want is to turn on my stupid wireless hotspot so my wife can use her Ipad in teh car without having to pay Verizon another $30 a month for access to data I already have. Argh!
Thanks,
Ryan
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You can actually acomplish that without rooting.
Open dial pad and type ##778# and hit call.
Select edit mode and enter six zeros (000000) as the password.
Select security and look for S.IP DUN username, it should look something like this [email protected]. Change it to be [email protected], just remove the "dun.".
Back out to the main menu and select M.IP Default Profile. Look for DUN NAI and change it to be [email protected], remove the "dun."
Hit the menu button and select commit modifications. Your phone will reboot.
Now just use the stock 3g mobile hotspot app. When you first open it it will say you have to have a subscription and pay, just procede you will not be charged, and verizion is none the wiser. I have been doing this my self for over a year now.
Compass sensor broken
Somebody has the same issue? after flashing the zip i cannot use correctly the compass sensor, for example in SkyMaps app.
This is by far the best tutorial out there to gain root and achieve s-OFF I've come across. Thank you SIR for your time and tutorial. Just EXCELLENT!!
for me the issue was my data/data folder (hint dont sync 1500 facebook friends and never do it with high res pics and with two differant apps haha) =] jsut removed all the contacts i didnt need and turned off the sync from normal facebook app and working perfect now
stuck in loop
I followed the instructions for the 2.3.4 and after I applied the Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik fix I got stuck in a loop with at the HTC Incredible boot screen, not sure what to do now.. can only get back to the recovery mode. Not sure what to do from here
scals37 said:
I followed the instructions for the 2.3.4 and after I applied the Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik fix I got stuck in a loop with at the HTC Incredible boot screen, not sure what to do now.. can only get back to the recovery mode. Not sure what to do from here
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If you made or have a previous roms backup. Just wipe everything in mounts and storage menu except sdcard and emmc, then restore your backup. If you dont have a backup flash a fresh rom.
You kind sir are a gentleman and a scholar. That "low space" bug has been annoying me since July 2009. I greatly appreciate you breaking down the l337 sp33k to plain English.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Captainjerky said:
Does anybody have a working link to 3.22?
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downloads.unrevoked.com/recovery/3.22/reflash_package.exe
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Thank you for the spectacular write-up, soniclude!!!
Is there a particular reason that you did not suggest using the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod?
Does it not work?
[/COLOR]Thank you for the spectacular write-up, soniclude!!!
Is there a particular reason that you did not suggest using the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod?
Does it not work?[/QUOTE]
I agree that this was an excellent how to. Thanks for the effort.
I used the no_data_limit_dalvik_moved mod and for some reason, my phone became really laggy. I'm on Pons CM7. 2. Now I'm a little hesitant to use any of the ext4 mods b/c I don't understand them too well. I'm not clear on why there is a partition in the first place. Why htc devs made it so small... Homework to do.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
Thanks cmlusco I used your method to unlock the 3G Hotspot on my phone and it worked like a charm.
Issue in Step 10
Thank you very much for the easy to follow directions soniclude. I went through all the steps and when I got to step 10, I ran into an issue. After clicking on "Reboot into Recovery" the phone restarts and goes to the white htc screen. After that the screen just goes black with thin white lines down the sides and stays like that. So I never see the blue options. Has anyone come across this? If so, what do I do from there?
I get the message: failed to root. is your firmware too new? What now?
Is there anything I can do now to revert my firmware so I can gain root.
joeyz400 said:
I get the message: failed to root. is your firmware too new? What now?
Is there anything I can do now to revert my firmware so I can gain root.
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If your on 2.3.4 you need to follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400 to root and get s-off.
I understand I could downgrade to 2.2 to get s off but only after I gain root. It seems I can't get rooted because I am running 2.3?
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It looks like the only step diffrent from the link you posted and this one is to run unrevoked as admin
I think I know what is wrong. The link to Unrevoked 3.22 is not working so I googled it and 3.22 came up but it was actually 3.32 that was downloaded and I can't find 3.22 anywhere. Does anyone have a copy of 3.22?
I found the correct 3.22 and now my Incredible is Incredible!!!! Rooted and it feels so good
Thanks for such a great thread!!!!
SWEEEEEET This worked awesome.

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