Several times recently (I'm not sure whether it started after I installed the OTA update or if it happened once before then) I have noticed that my phone says "No service" and doesn't pick up T-Mobile again until I power cycle.
It's not that unusual for me to see 0 bars of signal strength in my house; there are dropouts at various places, and I saw the same thing with AT&T on previous phones, so it's not a T-Mobile or Nexus One issue. The problem is that, once every few days, I will pull out my phone and see 0 bars and "No service" instead of "T-Mobile," and nothing short of a power cycle reestablishes the connection. I've tried going into and out of Airplane mode, with no effect, and I also tried using Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Network operators, and it never found any.
Maybe related is that when I try to power cycle after this occurs I have trouble doing so -- a few seconds into the shutdown sequence the circling arrow stops moving, I get some sort of notification "ping" and the trackball lights up, and the phone just sits there for a long time. Eventually it reboots -- whether because whatever it's waiting for times out and it continues the shutdown sequence or whether it's responding to my frustrated poking at various buttons while it's sitting there apparently doing nothing, I don't know.
If it's a hardware issue, it's very intermittent; I always have service after the reboot, and as I said, this only happens once every few days. I'm inclined to think it's a software or configuration problem (I'm using the stock 2.1-update1 firmware). Any thoughts or suggestions? TIA.
It happened again this evening when I had some more time to play around with it, so I have a bit more information about this problem.
When I tried Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Network operators, the circular arrow spun for a minute or two and eventually a little pop-up appeared saying, "Error searching for networks" or something like that.
It occurred to me that the SIM card might be bad or have a bad connection, so I installed an app (using wifi -- which, BTW, I had on throughout this whole process) that allows you to copy your contacts onto the SIM card and ran it. That seems not to be the problem, though, since that app could access the SIM card just fine, while I still had no service.
I toggled Airplane mode on and off, but there was still no change. I then again searched for network operators; the circular arrow appeared and stopped, then a couple of seconds later the phone spontaneously rebooted and I have service again.
Anybody have any guesses as to what these symptoms might indicate?
Every so often i got service but I cna't send text messges unless I power cycle. If I try to airplane mode cycle it won't let me get out of the mode.
wow, a bit refreshing knowing that I'm not the only one with this issue.
I'm on T-mobile and within the last week I've had 2 occassions where I looked at my phone and noticed no service, a power cycle caused it to freeze on "powering off" screen and I would have to pull the battery. After it booted it I had full bars again.
Within the last 2 weeks I have had issues where I would not be able to send a text messages until i power cycled.
The last time I had no service was 4 hours ago. I had to pull the battery to power cycle and get service again.
Thanks for the reply. I, also, pulled the battery the first time it hung in the shutdown sequence, but as I said in my first message, since then I have managed to complete the power-down after the hang, either because whatever it was waiting for eventually timed out or because something I did (e.g., holding down the power button for several seconds) overrode the wait. Next time it happens I'll try just waiting to see if it will complete the shutdown on its own.
Just out of curiosity, did you have wifi enabled at the time this happened? Bluetooth? I'm not sure whether it's relevant, but I leave both on all the time.
As for the text message problem, I don't send a lot of texts, so I probably wouldn't have noticed if I were having that problem and can't comment on any correlation.
Oh, and a couple more questions: do you have NetCounter installed? And are you in a location where you sometimes or frequently get 0 bars of signal strength?
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Several times recently (I'm not sure whether it started after I installed the OTA update or if it happened once before then) I have noticed that my phone says "No service" and doesn't pick up T-Mobile again until I power cycle.
It's not that unusual for me to see 0 bars of signal strength in my house; there are dropouts at various places, and I saw the same thing with AT&T on previous phones, so it's not a T-Mobile or Nexus One issue. The problem is that, once every few days, I will pull out my phone and see 0 bars and "No service" instead of "T-Mobile," and nothing short of a power cycle reestablishes the connection. I've tried going into and out of Airplane mode, with no effect, and I also tried using Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Network operators, and it never found any.
Maybe related is that when I try to power cycle after this occurs I have trouble doing so -- a few seconds into the shutdown sequence the circling arrow stops moving, I get some sort of notification "ping" and the trackball lights up, and the phone just sits there for a long time. Eventually it reboots -- whether because whatever it's waiting for times out and it continues the shutdown sequence or whether it's responding to my frustrated poking at various buttons while it's sitting there apparently doing nothing, I don't know.
If it's a hardware issue, it's very intermittent; I always have service after the reboot, and as I said, this only happens once every few days. I'm inclined to think it's a software or configuration problem (I'm using the stock 2.1-update1 firmware). Any thoughts or suggestions? TIA.
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I have had similar issues with other phones...
For me it turned out to be an issue with my sim card.
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Thanks for the reply. I, also, pulled the battery the first time it hung in the shutdown sequence, but as I said in my first message, since then I have managed to complete the power-down after the hang, either because whatever it was waiting for eventually timed out or because something I did (e.g., holding down the power button for several seconds) overrode the wait. Next time it happens I'll try just waiting to see if it will complete the shutdown on its own.
Just out of curiosity, did you have wifi enabled at the time this happened? Bluetooth? I'm not sure whether it's relevant, but I leave both on all the time.
As for the text message problem, I don't send a lot of texts, so I probably wouldn't have noticed if I were having that problem and can't comment on any correlation.
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I usually have both bluetooth and Wifi enabled all the time...
Dont have netcounter installed.
Dunno about the SIM card issue, unless its a combo of the N1 and my SIM card, because I swap to using my BB 8900 once in a while and I never have text message or no service issues.
Im experiencing the same problem, I have dropped calls in some spots around town (when changing towers it seems), I drop service when inside my home and cant send texts (until a power cycle), horrible 3G speeds of less than 1MB/S all around town (driving and standing directly under the Tmobile Tower that across the street from the tmobile store).
NONE of this happened with my G1....my 3G speeds always sucked though but were usually around 1.5-2.1MB/S.
Im located in Fredericksburg,VA.
(MY PHONE IS NOT ROOTED AND IS RUNNING THE OTA UPDATE1)
Im pretty sure it was the radio update, cause after i get out of a place where i get no signal at all, and i get to a open place I have to reboot the phone to get signal again
I've been busy for the last six weeks or so and haven't been following N1 news around the net. Has anyone heard of any progress on this issue? It seemed to go away on my phone for a couple of weeks, but it's back with a vengeance: it's happened to me about once a day for the last few days, which is more frequently than any time since I've had the phone, so I'd really like to get this fixed somehow.
Can you take a youtube video of it? the more the better to get Google to fix it.
Also these issues seem to be related over here too http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?fid=1cc152dbb797df2f000483d7c88e343e&hl=en
ram130 said:
Can you take a youtube video of it? the more the better to get Google to fix it.
Also these issues seem to be related over here too http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?fid=1cc152dbb797df2f000483d7c88e343e&hl=en
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Thanks for the link. It seems to me that several different problems are collected together there; mine is specifically the one where I go to zero bars (which happens fairly often; I have several dead spots in my house) and it never comes back.
A video of this would be pretty boring to watch; there's really nothing to see. The signal strength shows zero bars with an "x" and the home screen shows "no service." Trying to power off, or going into and out of airplane mode, shows the spinning arrow for a few seconds, then it stops; a few seconds later the screen goes blank; then a half-minute after that the multicolored "X" appears and the phone reboots itself.
No SMS Gateway
I think this is a separate issue for the phone not switching back to a connected state with the service provider. In the case of SMS, I have also noticed that you may have signal but you have no SMS gateway. No idea where it goes or why it does that.
For whatever reason you loose the SMS gateway phone number settings and become unable to send text messages without a reboot. This is evident by visiting:
Phone
dial *#*#4636#*#* (if you happen to mis-dial this start over after clearing the display or it won't work)
Phone information
Under SMSC: press Refresh.
If no number displays (in my case +12063130004) then you have no route for the SMS messages to take. Entering that number and pressing update will fix it but just restart so it can pick it back up from the SIM/Carrier configutation.
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Im pretty sure it was the radio update, cause after i get out of a place where i get no signal at all, and i get to a open place I have to reboot the phone to get signal again
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I have this issue sometime in a supermarket here, if I'm in it shopping for a while I loose all signal and have to reboot, also happened with my MyTouch jut didn't have to reboot the phone, but if I'm in there for a quick purchase, it works OK
@wmm, I'm seeing exactly the same issue (zero bars + reboots) and found another guy on the cyanogenmod forum with that problem. Maybe you can add your last_kmsg to this thread, even though you're on stock. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/topic/1599-loss-of-signal-no-reacquisition-issue/
wmm said:
Thanks for the link. It seems to me that several different problems are collected together there; mine is specifically the one where I go to zero bars (which happens fairly often; I have several dead spots in my house) and it never comes back.
A video of this would be pretty boring to watch; there's really nothing to see. The signal strength shows zero bars with an "x" and the home screen shows "no service." Trying to power off, or going into and out of airplane mode, shows the spinning arrow for a few seconds, then it stops; a few seconds later the screen goes blank; then a half-minute after that the multicolored "X" appears and the phone reboots itself.
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Damn...Lets hope the next OTA fixes this then.
robert-qfh said:
@wmm, I'm seeing exactly the same issue (zero bars + reboots) and found another guy on the cyanogenmod forum with that problem. Maybe you can add your last_kmsg to this thread, even though you're on stock. http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/topic/1599-loss-of-signal-no-reacquisition-issue/
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Yep, that certainly sounds identical to my experience. Next time I have the problem I'll force a crash by toggling airplane mode instead of trying to power off (it seemed from the thread that last_kmsg would not be saved if there is a normal reboot, and indeed I have no last_kmsg from the reboot that resulted from trying to power cycle after the last time I had the problem).
Thanks for the cross-reference.
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Damn...Lets hope the next OTA fixes this then.
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That would be nice, but I haven't seen any activity on the issue on the Android developers' board. Speaking as a programmer, these intermittent, once-every-few-days kinds of problems are a real pain to debug, so I can't blame people for not wanting to tackle the issue...
I had this issue but fixed it by installing the Radio Rom and OS again from the last update. Has not done it again. Now its a power button issue lol.
I have an intermittent issue that happens in multiple locations and on both WiFi and 3G. Occasionally, when I have good signal strength (3-4 bars) and have a blue "connected to Google services" status, I cannot connect to the web with any app. The status will sometimes show as connected to Google services for 30+ seconds before the network status goes to grey and shows no data. After that, it can take another 30+ seconds for the network status to reset and then I have network access again.
This isn't always the case, and I sometimes unlock it to find it on the grey "no data" part of the cycle and have to wait for it to reset before I can do anything useful. I am on CM 10.1-M1, and have seen this with stock kernel and franco nightly. My network is T-mobile, though this happens with WiFi too, so I doubt that has anything to do with it.
Are there any radio updates or other fixes that might stop this behavior?
I get this problem too. It stopped since I moved to my new apartment. Dunno what was going on cause I had full h+ signal and out of no where, data would drop. Happened multiple times a day.
Check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2195995
[TROUBLESHOOT] T-Mobile Loss of Signal & No data OR data drop (grey bars)
[LG NEXUSâ´] [AOKP B6] [MATR1X]
Hello,
Its very often, i'm using the phone and I lose the signal completely and stay for about 10/15 minutes. ( I reset the phone, put it in airplane mode and no signal back )
i Removed the sim card and put in another cellphone and i have a signal in 100%.
Is there other radio that i can test or another solution??
thanks
My N4 has same problem, signal is cut and all operations with SIM frozen when phone falls asleep. If SIM PIN query is activated, then I am asked to enter PIN, but all entries are ignored, no matter if correct/incorrect and how many tries. So I have disabled the PIN query.
Soft: I have flashed many combinations, got the best result with .27 version on stock rom & kernel. It did not cure my phone, just prolonged the time before radio fails, around 30mins after screen off.
After reboot all is OK, signal is good, data works, I can call out & receive phonecalls without drops, etc. Until radio freezes on sleep.
radios are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
Please keep this updated with your solution. I personally have given up and am in deep s**t with complicated RMA.
Welcome to the club. Search and there are some things you can try. But nothing full proof.
FYI, if you are prepaid, there is no roaming, so you phone will cut out a lot.
hepatiit said:
My N4 has same problem, signal is cut and all operations with SIM frozen when phone falls asleep. If SIM PIN query is activated, then I am asked to enter PIN, but all entries are ignored, no matter if correct/incorrect and how many tries. So I have disabled the PIN query.
Soft: I have flashed many combinations, got the best result with .27 version on stock rom & kernel. It did not cure my phone, just prolonged the time before radio fails, around 30mins after screen off.
After reboot all is OK, signal is good, data works, I can call out & receive phonecalls without drops, etc. Until radio freezes on sleep.
radios are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
Please keep this updated with your solution. I personally have given up and am in deep s**t with complicated RMA.
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i change to 0.24.
Now i have signal with the wifi on. But the signal after a half hour drops and came back after some minutes.
So there isn't a solution to this problem ?
lorrancruz said:
i change to 0.24.
Now i have signal with the wifi on. But the signal after a half hour drops and came back after some minutes.
So there isn't a solution to this problem ?
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I keep hoping there will be a solution.
I think i'm found a solution.
Today i go to SETTINGS > MORE ... > CELL BROADCASTS
and disable everything and during all the day my signal not drop.
I never had a day that the signal not drop and today after that change happens.
So tomorrow i'll hope that the signal not drop ! Let's See !
this happens to mine as well and I never had this issue with my galaxy s. I have one of the first batches from december. Im wondering if a replacement will fix this issue or if it is software but I am leaning towards hardware problem
Hello,
I have the Sony Z2 on Tmobile USA, completely stock (no ROMs, or modifications).
Approximately twice a day, my Z2 randomly stops receiving calls, making calls, and accessing the mobile internet. It still shows plenty of "bars" on the reception meter, thus I have no idea that I'm not receiving calls.
When it happens, this can only be resolved with a restart, or turning on Airplane Mode, then turning it off again. The problem will usually come back within 6 hours, requiring another restart cycle.
If I have WiFi enabled when this is occurring, then I can still access the internet via WiFi, but I will not get calls and text messages. I get no indication anything is wrong, until I try to place a call and it fails.
When this happens, the "Signal Strength" meter (under "About Phone", "Status") does not change, it would read something like -95 dBm no matter where I would take the phone (even in areas of poor coverage). It appears the phone simply looses synchronization with the mobile network, but doesn't notify the user. Other phones on the same mobile carrier continue to work perfectly at the same place, so it's not a mobile carrier issue.
I've had this phone for 8 months, and this is a new phenomenon.
This is Z2 model D6503 and I am on the latest firmware (Android 4.4.4, build 23.0.1.A.0.167). Sony support said "reset the entire phone", of course.
Please share any thoughts you may have about what could be wrong.
Any input is very much appreciated. Thank you!
mail_e36 said:
Hello,
I have the Sony Z2 on Tmobile USA, completely stock (no ROMs, or modifications).
Approximately twice a day, my Z2 randomly stops receiving calls, making calls, and accessing the mobile internet. It still shows plenty of "bars" on the reception meter, thus I have no idea that I'm not receiving calls.
When it happens, this can only be resolved with a restart, or turning on Airplane Mode, then turning it off again. The problem will usually come back within 6 hours, requiring another restart cycle.
If I have WiFi enabled when this is occurring, then I can still access the internet via WiFi, but I will not get calls and text messages. I get no indication anything is wrong, until I try to place a call and it fails.
When this happens, the "Signal Strength" meter (under "About Phone", "Status") does not change, it would read something like -95 dBm no matter where I would take the phone (even in areas of poor coverage). It appears the phone simply looses synchronization with the mobile network, but doesn't notify the user. Other phones on the same mobile carrier continue to work perfectly at the same place, so it's not a mobile carrier issue.
I've had this phone for 8 months, and this is a new phenomenon.
This is Z2 model D6503 and I am on the latest firmware (Android 4.4.4, build 23.0.1.A.0.167). Sony support said "reset the entire phone", of course.
Please share any thoughts you may have about what could be wrong.
Any input is very much appreciated. Thank you!
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Most probably random software issue. If you installed any apps recently one of them could be the culprit. Uninstall them or trying booting into safe mode and see if the problem persists with continued usage.
As a last resort you can factory reset the device using the PC companion. But since the lollipop update is round the corner wait for it and see if the update fixes the bug.
If a factory rest or firmware flash doesn't solve the problem its a hardware fault, return it and ask for replacement.
I know I randomly get data drops, but I always cycle mobile data off and on to fix it. Next time it happens, I'll try to make a call to see if this is the same bug that I've having.
Quick update:
Right before the problem started, I installed the current-as-of February 2015 version of Audible on my phone.
After I uninstalled Audible, the issue appears to have disappeared (haven't seen it re-occur yet). Bizarre, but that's the situation,