So I'm debating what the next phone is that I want to get. Should I either get the Nexus S or wait and get the LG Optimus 2X when it comes out.
Pros of Nexus S: Cyanogen, 'nuf said.
Cons of Nexus S: Not that much more that the N1 really. I currently have an N1.
Pros of Optimus 2X: Tegra2, 1080p, etc.
Cons of Optimus 2X: not even out yet so unknown at this point.
I'd love to hear what you all have to say on the matter, thoughts, criticisms, pros/cons, etc.
Just wait! In all likelihood, the price of the Nexus S will go down by the tIme the LG comes out.
Plus, you'll have to see how LG will modify Android too
I'd wait on the optimus 2x. It'll probably be great, but you don't want to be one of the people to find out first that it isn't. Wait a week after release, read reviews, then buy.
On the other hand, if you're satisfied with the nexus s reviews, get it. Sure, it won't have the highest specs in a month, but that doesn't mean it'll be trash.
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you know this is the nexus ONE section? :L
I'd go for the Optimus
As it stands, the LG. It's a monster.
Between the two...hands down the LG Optimus.
I'd take the LG, but imo LG phones are bad. I've had several and never had a good experience. Their UI isn't great either, but like I said it's all opinion. So.. I would wait for reviews or wait a bit longer after that for something even better
I would say the lg also. Digging how the tegra is shaping up. Just not sure about lg's build quality, or if there will be support from the community here. Comm support is a must for me since Im learning as I go.
I think this is relevant to the N1 forum since op is asking about what to get after it.
Idk. I just got the MT4G a month ago. I plan on getting a new phone when an HTC phone with the 1.5Ghz dual core Snapdragons are released. It depends on how often you upgrade. If you get a new phone every 6 months, I'd get the Nexus, but if you're the type to wait out your contract I'd say the LG.
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I tend to get a new phone every year, contract up or not. Kind of depends on funds at the time.
I'm agreeing that the LG is going to be a monster, but am afraid that there will not be the community support that the N1/S has. So far, Cyan seems to focus on HTC devices, and I really like what Cyan does.
So far, I prefer vanilla Android with tweaks here and there such that ADW does, but don't like the interfaces that Moto, and Samsung, etc use. So if someone comes out with a good custom ROM for the LG, I'm there.
I have a feeling though that as soon as I get my tax return, I'm going to get antsy and end up getting the Nexus S, won't be able to wait for the LG to come out, then it'll come out and I'll be all disappointed. At the same time though, all these bad ass Android phones have come out that are superior the the N1, but because of the community support, I haven't been too disappointed to regret having gotten the N1.
In the end, I think it boils down to community support, with the NS will have plenty of that the LG may not.
It's a no brainer, got to be the LG 2X.
The Samsung NS looks like a soap dish.
First, this is in the wrong section I think..
Second and most importantly, we have no idea how rootable the Optimus 2X will be... if it's totally locked down, how would you feel about not being able to mod it?
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First, this is in the wrong section I think..
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I disagree, who better to ask what I should get after having and N1 for a year, than other people who have an N1 and might also be thinking to get another phone.
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Second and most importantly, we have no idea how rootable the Optimus 2X will be... if it's totally locked down, how would you feel about not being able to mod it?
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That's kind of why I was posing the question, others might have a better idea as to how LG is with their devices and if they tend to be easy or hard to root, good/bad build quality, warranty and support issues. Is LG lenient with software hack like HTC is, or are they strict and won't service a phone that's been rooted.
I understand that the phone isn't out, but I'm trying to start my research early to start building a mental image of what my options are so that I can make a well informed choice when the time comes, instead of buying something just because it's there and everyone is talking about it.
Your cool in this section bro. But if your leaning toward the Ns, then I would wait for the next HTC device...just a thought
I loved my Nexus One, but the S blows it out of the water. I love my Nexus S.
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I loved my Nexus One, but the S blows it out of the water. I love my Nexus S.
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didnt you have a n1 with a test build of gingerbread? how do the two compare since you ran gb on the n1...
whatever you do, wait until march 2011 or so ... by then a couple of tegra-2 phones will be out and the mistake of the Samsung Nexus S will be long forgotten.
I'm keeping my Nexus One until then
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didnt you have a n1 with a test build of gingerbread? how do the two compare since you ran gb on the n1...
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The S is smoother, the animations are much better, and it's snappier. This is all due to the improved hardware.
It's the same Gingerbread experience though. I'm badgering my friend to hook me up with Honeycomb.
The software is identical, but the S takes much better advantage of it.
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whatever you do, wait until march 2011 or so ... by then a couple of tegra-2 phones will be out and the mistake of the Samsung Nexus S will be long forgotten.
I'm keeping my Nexus One until then
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Mistake?
Fanboys be fanboying.
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I love this phone but I need a new upgrade for this year
it is a best choise?! nexus S?
If I were to replace my DZ, I'd want to wait for something significantly better, like one of the dual core monsters coming out this year, such as the LG Optimus 2X. And even then, I'd wait to see if it got any dev support first.
Having said that, there is a benefit to having the current Google dev phone, ie. being the first to get OS updates.
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If I were to replace my DZ, I'd want to wait for something significantly better, like one of the dual core monsters coming out this year, such as the LG Optimus 2X. And even then, I'd wait to see if it got any dev support first.
Having said that, there is a benefit to having the current Google dev phone, ie. being the first to get OS updates.
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Yeah, but it is Samsung that we are talking about, right? From what I have heard about what they are doing to the vibrant, I would NEVER go to Samsung. Did you read the article on AndroidSPIN about what their tipster said? Heres the article http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/ . After reading that, I don't think that I will ever buy a Samsung phone again. But I did read on another site that the Nexus S is by Google, Samsung just makes the hardware but Google makes the software, and that the Nexus S is Google's Baby and that they will get all the latest software updates first.
also check this out.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045 (but do not take as fact as no1 can confirm anything)
But yeah, as SETSPEED said you will/should get updates 1st,... but that is about the only benefit I can see.
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Yeah, but it is Samsung that we are talking about, right? From what I have heard about what they are doing to the vibrant, I would NEVER go to Samsung. Did you read the article on AndroidSPIN about what their tipster said? Heres the article http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/ . After reading that, I don't think that I will ever buy a Samsung phone again. But I did read on another site that the Nexus S is by Google, Samsung just makes the hardware but Google makes the software, and that the Nexus S is Google's Baby and that they will get all the latest software updates first.
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I came from a vibrant and there are issues that still have not been fixed by samsung like the gps on the phone, so if there is one screw loose in the nexus s I would avoid it at all costs since their current track record for repairs is not that great. BUT it will be a developer phone if I remember right if not correct me, so as far as software updates go it seems like it would be the first to get them like the nexus did before it just do some research first man im a lil pissed at sammy still gonna be a long time b4 i get another samsung phone
i don talk about vibrante...only nexus S
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the vibrant is even better than the nexus s in ways. lol
Why would u want a Nexus S? Have you not seen the phones coming in 2011? Nexus S is nothing but a vibrant with a front cam. Id hang on to your G2 and wait for something dual core coming later this year.
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Yeah, to me its not a good move at this point but to each his own I guess. I would say to at least wait for MWC in February before making any phone decisions, which will give you a good idea what to expect in the first half of this year. I'm an early adopter to a fault as well and even I think that is crazy.
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First of all, can't believe someone is already tired of a phone less than six months old. But you definitely need to go dual core, and stay far away from Samsung.
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I wouldn't get a Nexus S. I bet as soon as I got one a "Nexus S 4g" would be released.
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I went the opposite way, and I can't be happier. The Nexus S was just a trashy phone.
We can all agree that the Samsung Vibrant/Galaxy S is a really good phone and a really great phone when running a custom rom. My question is what is next for you guy, as far as phones goes. What new upcoming phone will you guys get in the near future?
So far number one on my list of my next phones is the LG Optimus 2x, but is that can when Galaxy S 2 and the rumored LG 3D phone is announces. Most likely I will go with the Galaxy S 2. Why you ask? 1. TOUCHWIZ, I think Touchwiz is the best thing that every happen to a smartphone. 2. Odin, Odin practically made the Vibrant unbreakable. 3. Super Amoled Display, I can never look at another screen the same again after seeing super amoled, plus the Galaxy S 2 is said to have Super Amoled Plus Display sigh crazy!!!
I too am leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X but would opt for the Galaxy S 2 if it was coming out in the next couple of months. Have not heard nor read any real timeline for the Galaxy S 2. I also really like Twiz. I have had some hard feelings toward Samsung but I also like Odin and how it makes the phone much easier(or more comfortable) to mess with. I had pretty much decided to never purchase Samsung again but upon looking at the overall picture I feel it is the best decision for me at this time. I had a MT4G and even though I got it rooted and flashed a nice rom I never really felt comfortable playing with it. Sent it back.. Nice phone though.
LG Optimus 2X is mine, I am simply waiting on it right now. But I will NOT buy any phone that does not have the operating system I want and wait for it to come out. If the Optimus 2X does not come with gingerbread, no dice. That way I can flash some cool custom roms just for fun not cos I need the new OS
Seems like I made the right decision to not but the Galaxy Tab, will be getting the G-Slate to go along with it the Optimus2X, scary crap but I am going to be an LG guy (minus the TV)
Edit, after much thought and playing around with phones, watching youtube videos of different phones etc etc, I have decided I will stick to Google phones, ie Nexus line of phones. I really do not need much more than the 16gig it comes with, I hardly use the bluetooth anyway, and it is still faster than the current flock of dual core phones out there now...yep nexus S is my next phone. Even the Nexus one is beating phones that are a year newer at performing basic tasks fast and efficiently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0e5z6vvf0A&feature=related for eg for the Nexus S
Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
As much as I am a believer in budget is relative, buy it if you can afford it, I still don't see why anyone buys a phone cause its the "next big thing". Hype and marketing will always tug at the trendy or the ppl who are "in the know" harder then reality or common sense.
Examples span from the the galaxy s Series being released, the G1 being the iphone killer, and more recently the X2 being short of expectations per the review just put out by engadget. Now I'm not saying that the following examples didn't take a turn for the better, if not the best, but electronics and the future is almost an oxymoron. You usually are never using the final product, but more like beta testing for the next best thing. It's an endless trap of gratification vs. $/phone.
As I was one who has gone through the ranks of the G1 and a vibrant, and I Love my vibrant, but Ill still just wait till xxx phone comes out late this year and get it for free on a full upgrade after its been out for 6 months and has tons of roms and the kinks rubbed out of it, lol.
/talking myself out of buying another toy hahaha
I'm going to stick to vibrant and wait for multiple dual cores to come out. Then hit the Craig when the price is lowest :b dun really wanna switch again... went through so many phones in last 4 -5months.
Samsung highlight/ iPhone 3gs/ Samsung vibrant / HTC g2/ nexus one / mytouch 4g/ and back to vibrant again.. should have never abandoned the vibrant in the first place lol.
Learned mylesson. Don't buy the first batch
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Grant it, i've had hard feelings towards samsung, I'll probably end up with another samsung phone. If not, I would go back to being a Symbian Developer once again with custom Symbians for Nokia. I was, maybe still am, a Nokia die hard. I love their simplicity and all of my Nokia's lasted years.
And Samsung is the closest to what I like on a phone. Customizable, ease of use, and their hardware configuration is so simple and very nice.
So yah...
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
they said the benchmarks on it are insane
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/31/lg-optimus-2x-star-dual-core-tegra-2-fully-benchmarked/
instead of spending my easily earned money on another phone when this current phone is perfectly fine, I am going to get some custom timberland boots!!
From what i have heard, performance increase is not that much with any phone that is not running honeycomb or higher. The OS can only utilize one core, so the main reason anyone would want to get the lg optimus should be for gaming, and lets face it, android games aren't that hw demanding or nice !!
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Sounds like you need a Nokia N8.
But i think im most likely gonna go with the Optimus 2x. That Dual-Core processor sounds promising.
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LOL, N8 is niiiccceee, especially it comes with Nokia Qt SDK for Devs, lolol... tempting.
Anyway, that's what i'm waiting for, a dual core, and simplicity.
Funny, I can afford to buy any phone anytime, that said i love this phone and am waiting for the same reason ndwgs said. Dual Core, my next buy will probably be the xoom tablet... then the Dual core, S2 or maybe Atris..... not sure
------BTW doesn't "TouchWhiz" sound like a condition you get from drinking to much beer ?
Haha yes! Lol
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Meh, as unhappy as I've been with the small amounts of great ROMS, and lack of Sense so far, I'm keeping this phone. Over the lasy year I've gone through six phones. Moto Cliq-myTouch-Blackberry Bold-iPhone 3G-myTouch-Vibrant. I was never truly happy with a device until this one. So I'll be waiting quite a qhile before getting a new one.
Either the Glaxy S2 or the HTC Pyramid. I can't wait for MWC to start
I will never buy a samsung phone again, but I heard that the nokia e7 is shipping now and the keyboard on that thing is gorgeous, not to mention the camera with dual led flash. If I were to buy a phone today it would be that one. I'd probably go through some minor flashing withdraw but I'd get over it.
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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To the op try using this rom im using now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935799 its a suped up version of touchwiz ^^
and on the topic i would skip the lg 2x and prolly get the galaxy s2 for my next upgrade, mostly because i dont want a smaller screen. Hopefully by then they will solve the whole timely update problems, which they said recently while releasing the "official 2.2" <-(piece of sh*t btw) that they will work harder to provide updates on a timely matter.
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Yea I tried that rom. I realtor like it but what I did is I pulled out the theme, widgets and touchwiz and put then on top of kb1.
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Heh, I'm going to wait until the second wave of dual-core phones come out, probably by this holiday season. Why? They'll be more mature and ship with 2.4 stock, which is what you'll need to actually take advantage of those dual cores. And by then we'll know which chipsets have the best performance and battery life (Tegra 2 isn't all that impressive just yet).
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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Some have no problem getting 2 phones.
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True. I got a dinosaur phone and my vibrant. Nokia 6630 International Version and my Nex One.
Both i still use, beside my playtime/funtime/tester phone: the vibrant.
Speaking of which, when are you coming up with your Rom, Sader?
I see in your sig that you got a Rom coming soon?? I wan't to have a hands-on on that baby... No pressure. LOL
Moved over from Big Red to Tmo to save some moola.
Loving my G2 thus far. Allready perm rooted and on CM6. Also dropped in my seidio 1750 from my Inc. I will enjoy this phone till I pick up a Nexus One.
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Why go to a Nexus One if you already have a G2?
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Why go to a Nexus One if you already have a G2?
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Dunno. Just always wanted one. I may get one a stick with the G2. Who knows.
Are you trolling us?
G2 beats Nexus one............
its like going back to a Ford after driving a BMW
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Are you trolling us?
G2 beats Nexus one............
its like downgrading from a POS to a Ford
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I fixed it for you
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Dunno. Just always wanted one. I may get one a stick with the G2. Who knows.
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Just saying that I wouldn't really strive to have a Nexus One if I already had a G2. The G2 hardware is pretty amazing and the Nexus One is sadly getting old at this point...
Yeah, that's the dumbest thing i ever heard. Have fun with that out of date nexus. Lol
G2 with ExtraHotSauce v0.2!!
Nexus has great build quality, is a great weight, slim, has a coloured trackball and a really good screen. It's great if you don't like hardware keyboards, would love to own a monumental piece of Android/HTC history.
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Nexus has great build quality, is a great weight, slim, has a coloured trackball and a really good screen. It's great if you don't like hardware keyboards, would love to own a monumental piece of Android/HTC history.
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Absolutely all very true points. But it isnt nearly worth your money as a daily primary device.
...thats a pretty expensive hobby of collecting phones lol
No no. I'm not trolling. I love this g2 thus far. Its a great device. But I do want to pick up a N1 for a trial or two. If anything ill make it a dedicated gps.
All the N1 hate makes me sad. And I DO NOT like the Nexus S at all.
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No no. I'm not trolling. I love this g2 thus far. Its a great device. But I do want to pick up a N1 for a trial or two. If anything ill make it a dedicated gps.
All the N1 hate makes me sad. And I DO NOT like the Nexus S at all.
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I don't think anyone hates the N1, it's just not "new" anymore and therefore not as cool as the "newer" G2... you know the drill with us techies.
I don't think you'd be unhappy going from the G2 to the N1. I personally can't understand how you'd be able to like the N1 and not like the NS though... they're basically the exact same device minus the manufacturer's name. (putting my flame retardant suit on)
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I don't think anyone hates the N1, it's just not "new" anymore and therefore not as cool as the "newer" G2... you know the drill with us techies.
I don't think you'd be unhappy going from the G2 to the N1. I personally can't understand how you'd be able to like the N1 and not like the NS though... they're basically the exact same device minus the manufacturer's name. (putting my flame retardant suit on)
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No flame here. I completely agree. I love the N1 too, but it is a year old now, the specs just aren't good considering what you can get now.
I agree on the Nexus S point as well. NS is the next iteration past the N1, and it really is a solid device.
My issue with the NS is more of an anti samsung thing. With them dropping the ball on the galaxy froyo updates I just can't back em. Plus I the N1 was sexier. Imo.
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I also think about picking up an N1 to fiddle with. Love my G2, but I'm afraid I've become addicted to seeing what our brilliant devs can cook up. So, the idea of having both a daily driver and a toy is attractive.
Regarding the NS: I'm wary of Samsung. I'm sure it's a solid device and, having been tapped my Google to be the next Nexus, will continue to reflect the bleeding edge of Android for at least another year. However, Samsung's record of slow updates and less than solid build quality puts me firmly in the HTC fanboy house.
Not going to lie. The new 10.1 tablet is tempting even with Samsung written on it.
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my contract just passed the 22 month mark, but im wondering if it would be a smarter idea to get the g2 and see what happens after the potential merger and what promotional deals i could get (if any). or i could be safe and get a g2x and be able to use both frequency bands of att and tmobile. I do realize that the g2x has a dual core, hdmi output, etc, but honestly specs dont matter that much to me; im perfectly content with the g2's good speed. theres also the fact that the g2 has a keyboard, while obviously the g2x does not. i currently have a g1, and i find it hard to switch to virtual keyboards. So guys, input?
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well, i personally love hard keyboards but after getting use to swype, i can honestly say I can do without a hard keyboard. I'd prefer the g2x simply because it will set you up for the future. I'm waiting for my upgrade and switching to the g2x. I love the g2 and all but soon enough, apps and all will be updated to support multi cores. Plus i think the g2x's screen is better, looks better i mean. Up to you
At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology. Phones like the G2X and other upcoming dual core superphones like the Galaxy S II (or Galaxy S Pro if you want a keyboard) should be the ones you're looking at.
I see no value in buying a phone that came out in October last year at this point. Don't get me wrong the G2 is an awesome phone and I really like it, but there's no reason to buy this old of a phone with all these great ones coming out.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year? I think a phone that comes out this month has a much better chance at that.
So little love for the G2 already? I'm shocked.
I have had mine for 5 months or so now but I honestly think If I was to upgrade from my old handset RIGHT NOW, I would either get the still G2 or wait for something else to drop from HTC with a hardware keyboard.
My last handset was a Hero and for the entire 8-10 months I had that I always regretted not getting a G1 ... (a) for the kb.... (b) for the dev support!!!!! There was always more going on with the G1 than the Hero.
I think I'll be content with my G2 for another 12months yet.
My wife just got a phone last week. We went into the tmobile store and personally i dont see anything better then a g2. g2x doesnt even count imo... it isnt in the G family on so many levels.
G2 is working great for me so she wanted a g2 also. Shes very happy with it, but then again she came from a motorola cliq lol.
You posted the same question in the Q & A subforum.
Cross posting the same question to multiple subforums is against forum rules, and unnecessary.
I have a G2 since December and my girl just got a G2 now. The reason she wanted a G2 was because she was switching to t-mobile and wanted a phone with a keyboard. We decided that the G2 was good enough for her as it was quick for what she does and has swype as well.
She got the G2 for free with no dataplan required so it was a good deal.
Sure a dual core phone would have been nice, but it would be overkill for her. Front facing camera is a nice feature, but she won't be using it much, or even at all. She didn't want to drop $200 for the latest phone and pay $30 dataplan for the next 2 years.
She just love to text, email and go on facebook. She came from an iphone 3G so it was a big upgrade imo.
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At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology. Phones like the G2X and other upcoming dual core superphones like the Galaxy S II (or Galaxy S Pro if you want a keyboard) should be the ones you're looking at.
I see no value in buying a phone that came out in October last year at this point. Don't get me wrong the G2 is an awesome phone and I really like it, but there's no reason to buy this old of a phone with all these great ones coming out.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year? I think a phone that comes out this month has a much better chance at that.
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He using a G1 currently... do you honestly think the G2 is outdated compared to his current phone? It will a GIANT improvement over a G1 and you get to keep the qwerty kb. Trust me, I even fired it up the other day and it was unbearable.... The G2X has nice guts but looks like a plastic pos from LG (typical) and the extra frequency won't freaking matter for 3 years+ The stupid merger will be blocked for a year and a half (at least) and another year and a half before your 3G towers are gone (you still have 2G after that). By that time, 3D phones will be becoming mainstream (or at least more popular) and dual processors will be improved while quads are arriving on tables. The G2 is a good choice for a couple of years. Hell, you can overclock to almost 2GHz! That's plenty fast for now and the near future. The only issue I see is RAM is low compared to newer high end models but the cpu makes up for it with a little OCing...
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At this point, the G2 shouldn't even be on your short list of phones to consider. It's old technology.
You just have to ask yourself, could you really see the G2 being relevant this time next year?
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Consider that this gentleman is still on a g1 which at this stage is genuinely outdated some two years after release. I think if he moved to the direct successor to this venerable handset he would be quite pleased. The brief overlay between release and the present day has merely allowed the dev community time to support the device. Instead, if he did what you suggest and get a g2x (which lacks a hard keyboard, something he seems fond of) he would have to wait some months for it to be cracked and the dev community to support it.
Not to mention that dual core phones are still relatively new tech. Even if the hardware is screaming fast, every dual core phone released so far has some sort of software issue and do you really genuinely believe that the carrier or vendor will be quick to patch these issues? Consider the Engadget review of the LG Optimus2x
Where we were left disappointed, however, was in the company's software execution. Neat little tweaks to Android's default interface failed to obscure the fact that the Optimus 2X is neither as responsive nor as stable as it should be. You might be able to rectify those flaws by installing one of the inevitable avalanche of custom ROMs that this device will benefit from, but we're here to review LG's own performance and we find the failure to deliver a reliable platform inexcusable.
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And the Atrix4g review
The Bad
Motoblur and AT&T bloatware onboard
Isn't running most recent Android release
Software can be slightly buggy
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Though speculating on the end product that HTC will produce is nothing more than conjecture at this stage, these types of commentary lead me to believe that despite the frankly staggeringly good physical hardware, albeit lacking the desired keyboard, the current iteration of dual core smartphones aren't really ready for the consumer market. Their battery life is acceptable, but that goes away when you really are trying to utilize the benefits of having a dual core setup in terms of snappy multitasking.
Get the G2 man. You'll be holding onto it for a while and whatever crop of phones ATT comes out with assuming this merger goes through will probably not live up to the high quality you'll find in the G2. Even now the Dev community is still supporting the G1 so as to if the G2 is going to be "relevant" in a year, that is a silly question. What about all those people who wish to stay off contract yet desire a decent handset at a cheaper price since it is a used model? Dismissing a handset offhand as being "old" and "outdated" despite obvious evidence against this assertion is both shortsighted and closed minded.
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She didn't want to drop $200 for the latest phone and pay $30 dataplan for the next 2 years.
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I hope no one here is paying 30 a month for unlimited. 20 dollars a month its called "android preferred" or something like that. 3 people included myself on our family plan have internet for 20 a month. Just ***** and moan and u can get it too.
things i dislike about the g2x.
no camera button
camera pokes out so uneven backside
i think the review say it has no lens cover so prone to dust
Not a big modding community yet.
I love my G2 and will be happy with it for at least the next 2 years. But, if I were getting a phone now, I would probably get the G2x or more likely wait for the Pyramid.
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things i dislike about the g2x.
no camera button
camera pokes out so uneven backside
i think the review say it has no lens cover so prone to dust
Not a big modding community yet.
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the g2x hasnt even come out yet, that was the optimus 2x, which had its own lg skin over it.
this phone, with the g in the g2x, is mostly stock android with a bit of bloatware put in. you cant say it has a small mod community when it hasnt even come out yet.
Here's really what it boils down to: do you need a physical keyboard or not? A physical keyboard is an absolute must for me, and regardless of the hardware specs I need that keyboard. Right now there just aren't a ton of options on the market, for whatever reason, for a great phone with a physical keyboard, but the G2 is a fantastic one, and easily the best on the market next to the Sprint/HTC Evo Shift (since it's the same internals as the G2 anyway). Remember, even flagships like the Xperia Play have nearly the same exact hardware as the G2, so it's not like it's a crappy phone or something, just not cutting edge any more.
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the g2x hasnt even come out yet, that was the optimus 2x, which had its own lg skin over it.
this phone, with the g in the g2x, is mostly stock android with a bit of bloatware put in. you cant say it has a small mod community when it hasnt even come out yet.
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Hardware wise its the same phone and will be the same subforum .just like the g2 AND desire Z , HTC leo AND the HD2.
Sure the specs on the G2x is amazing, but i would perfer my G2 over the G2x anyday. What I love about my G2 is that it has a beautiful qwerty keyboard & personailly the g2x looks like plastic. The G2 looks like a ****ing Rock. So which one do you rather have a big peice of crappy Plastic or a nice tough looking Rock.
Like others have said here is my list of importance.
1. physical keyboard (i must have it, i cannot do without it)
2. android os (duh...)
3. spec (finally my 3rd i would finally have to start looking at speed and memory)
Maybe the keyboard isnt important to you, if that is so then you have a much larger selection.
G2!
G2 all the way!
Once you've gone hardware keyboard you cant go back. The keyboard is really a big draw the phone has. There aren't really any negative traits about the G2, besides that it's just slightly older. The 800 mhz processor isn't a negative trait about the phone. HTC makes much higher quality phones that LG (in my opinion). And there is not really anything that the G2x has that the G2 doesn't, aside from being game-focused (or at least the T-Mobile website makes it sound game-focused.
My vote is for the G2 for sure.
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Sure the specs on the G2x is amazing, but i would perfer my G2 over the G2x anyday. What I love about my G2 is that it has a beautiful qwerty keyboard & personailly the g2x looks like plastic. The G2 looks like a ****ing Rock. So which one do you rather have a big peice of crappy Plastic or a nice tough looking Rock.
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A shiny rock But yeah, qwerty plus HTC and quality exterior beat LG anyday.
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My wife just got a phone last week. We went into the tmobile store and personally i dont see anything better then a g2. g2x doesnt even count imo... it isnt in the G family on so many levels.
G2 is working great for me so she wanted a g2 also. Shes very happy with it, but then again she came from a motorola cliq lol.
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I came from the cliq... I feel her pain. Dont get me wrong, that phone was like a better iPhone sacrificing the High-End games. But man if its 1 thing I learned from that lesson. Its patients, timing and the right manufacture.
The G2 has a few things no other phone tmobile to date has to offer. Total Openess. Means long community support. G1 still fully supported cause its pure google. Only other phone is the Nexus S which lacks Keyboard, no SDCard, and is Samsung.
Not a single Dual-Core phone is pure Google yet or even a popular HTC for that matter (Like the EVO). Now the Evo 3D would be a good by because itll be way ahead of every1 else, be purchased by many, and its HTC. Most importantly translate to a large Community Base/Support.
i got my atrix from best buy 3 weeks ago and i am still within my 30 day exchange period. if you didn't already know, the Nexus S was released today for AT&T at best buy (subsized $99). i know the Nexus S is an mildly inferior spec wise, however, with the plethora of ROMs available (including CM7), switching to the Nexus S seems very enticing. i know the atrix will eventually get AOSP ROMS, but i miss the good ole days on my Nexus One with vanilla android, CM7, etc. Obviously there will be a bias here because I am posting in the atrix forum. but anyone have any thoughts on this? ive read all the phonedog, cnet, youtube, reviews/comparisons on the 2 devices, but I wanted to ask the XDA community.
couple of points:
- hspa+ doesn't seem to be a huge issue for where i live because the max speedtest i ever got on my atrix was 2.9mb/s DL and 1.8 UP (running samcripp's ninja 4.5 w/ faux kernel and latest radio). im assuming even the 3G Nexus S will achieve similar speeds as my buddys iPhone 4 gets 2.8-3.0MBps in our area.
- not a fan of the atrix's color accuracy. samoled looks better to my eyes, despite lower resolution.
anyone that has owned a Nexus S or knows anything about it, please give me your input. thanks fellas/ladies
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i got my atrix from best buy 3 weeks ago and i am still within my 30 day exchange period. if you didn't already know, the Nexus S was released today for AT&T at best buy (subsized $99). i know the Nexus S is an mildly inferior spec wise, however, with the plethora of ROMs available (including CM7), switching to the Nexus S seems very enticing. i know the atrix will eventually get AOSP ROMS, but i miss the good ole days on my Nexus One with vanilla android, CM7, etc. Obviously there will be a bias here because I am posting in the atrix forum. but anyone have any thoughts on this? ive read all the phonedog, cnet, youtube, reviews/comparisons on the 2 devices, but I wanted to ask the XDA community.
couple of points:
- hspa+ doesn't seem to be a huge issue for where i live because the max speedtest i ever got on my atrix was 2.9mb/s DL and 1.8 UP (running samcripp's ninja 4.5 w/ faux kernel and latest radio). im assuming even the 3G Nexus S will achieve similar speeds as my buddys iPhone 4 gets 2.8-3.0MBps in our area.
- not a fan of the atrix's color accuracy. samoled looks better to my eyes, despite lower resolution.
anyone that has owned a Nexus S or knows anything about it, please give me your input. thanks fellas/ladies
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A friend of mine owns the nexus S and I own the atrix.
It's a nice phone with AOSP gingerbread (and many roms) but I don't think it's very futureproof which puts me off of it.
The source code is being released for atrix gingerbread on 7/29 from the 4.5.91 build, and when that happens, there truly will be an AOSP/CM7 build for the atrix within a week or two.
If you want a better experience with your phone right now (or for the next 4-6 months) I would go with the nexus S, but from an investment point of view the atrix is a far better choice. I enjoy it.
Atrix has dual cores and is more recent. Though that curved screen on the Nexus S looks nice
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Magnetox said:
A friend of mine owns the nexus S and I own the atrix.
It's a nice phone with AOSP gingerbread (and many roms) but I don't think it's very futureproof which puts me off of it.
The source code is being released for atrix gingerbread on 7/29 from the 4.5.91 build, and when that happens, there truly will be an AOSP/CM7 build for the atrix within a week or two.
If you want a better experience with your phone right now (or for the next 4-6 months) I would go with the nexus S, but from an investment point of view the atrix is a far better choice. I enjoy it.
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+1 in a month when cm7 and other roms are available your going to be a little disappointed you hadnt waited out a little longer and got the same or similar ui exprience with more speed and a longer time line in terms of being future proof. soon the nexus s will be completely outdated while the atrix wont
I own both phones. The nexus s is a great phone. Im using launcherpro on both with the exact same homescreen setup and the atrix is noticeably faster. Web browsing is a LOT faster on the atrix as well. And my atrix is still on 2.2. What i like about the nexus s is the camera. It completely destroys the atrix cam especially on night shots. 2.3 is also a plus along with getting first the udates that google will release. I thought i could use the nexus s as my main phone but still ended up using my atrix a lot more.
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Honestly, i almost thought about buying the nexus S before the Atrix was released. But like they said, it's not future proof, single core(not the biggest deal breaker, but dual core does make a difference). The main reason i didn't get it was because it doesn't have an sdcard slot, if it had an sdcard slot then i would've got it, another thing is the Atrix's battery is the largest battery in a phone straight out of the box, sure there are extended batteries out there that u could get, but they're so big that they will pretty much double the thickness of your phone if not more which will most likely make your phone uncomfortable after a while.
But overall the Nexus S is a great device if your not too worried about mods/roms, but once these new firmwares/roms are released that require more advanced hardware or software that's not compatible with the nexus S, then you'll be looking for another phone, while a more future proof phone like the Atrix will be able to keep up
just something to think about
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Atrix has dual cores and is more recent. Though that curved screen on the Nexus S looks nice
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The screen isn't curved, only the glass cover is.
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+1 in a month when cm7 and other roms are available your going to be a little disappointed you hadnt waited out a little longer and got the same or similar ui exprience with more speed and a longer time line in terms of being future proof. soon the nexus s will be completely outdated while the atrix wont
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Cyanogen replied to a question about Atrix CM7 on Jun 26 stating that they'd probably begin working on it soon. This was right after the unlock was released. You can be sure that with the GB source release they'll be jumping on it both feet first, as they have CM7 for both the T-Mobile G2X and LG Optimus already (other similar Tegra 2 devices).
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The screen isn't curved, only the glass cover is.
Cyanogen replied to a question about Atrix CM7 on Jun 26 stating that they'd probably begin working on it soon. This was right after the unlock was released. You can be sure that with the GB source release they'll be jumping on it both feet first, as they have CM7 for both the T-Mobile G2X and LG Optimus already (other similar Tegra 2 devices).
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Oh lol, nvm then. I just saw the pic in a review. Looked curved to me
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ANY phone lacking Micro SD, is an automatic deal breaker for me.
That's why I still have and rather use an SGS over the Nexus...
color accuracy on the super amoled displays is horrible imo. it looks like a tv in vivid mode
With an unlocked bootloader, the Atrix puts the Nexus S to shame. The screen on the Nexus S isn't my cup of tea either, the colors are sooooo exaggerated.
Not to mention, with rumors flying around of a Nexus 4G being released first for AT&T in October with Ice Cream Sandwich, the Nexus S will be a thing of the past. If you're getting the Nexus S in hopes of always getting the latest from Google first, remember how well (sarcasm) they treated Nexus One owners ;-)
Finally, honestly, pure Android experience is nice, but Moto does an awesome job (in my opinion) filling in for some key nice features. For example, the stock gallery app on Android is HORRID, it will make you want to stab yourself while you wait for it to load up new photos. Moto on the other hand, did an awesome job with their gallery app, more so especially with Gingerbread for the Atrix.
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ANY phone lacking Micro SD, is an automatic deal breaker for me.
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Same for me. How do Google expect to showcase their platform with a neutered phone? Ridiculous.
thank you to everyone! i never expected so many helpful responses. unfortunately, this makes my decision even harder. i am the type of person that changes phone literally every 3 months. i will be getting the iPhone 5(4S or whatever) when it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I love android, but I also have a hidden passion for iOS devices. However, whichever android phone I decide upon, I will be keeping. If we really are going to be getting true AOSP ROMS on the atrix in the coming weeks, I think I am just going to stick with it. The Nexus S just look so sexy though. ugh. tough call here. but thanks again everyone
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thank you to everyone! i never expected so many helpful responses. unfortunately, this makes my decision even harder. i am the type of person that changes phone literally every 3 months. i will be getting the iPhone 5(4S or whatever) when it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I love android, but I also have a hidden passion for iOS devices. However, whichever android phone I decide upon, I will be keeping. If we really are going to be getting true AOSP ROMS on the atrix in the coming weeks, I think I am just going to stick with it. The Nexus S just look so sexy though. ugh. tough call here. but thanks again everyone
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I believe Samcripp is working on making Ninja SF into an AOSP ROM (already themed as such)
Plus, why get the Nexus S now, when the next one is rumored(?) to be coming out soon?
no point in getting nexus S now. it's been out too long and there are many phones now that are better than it spec wise.
like some have said, you should wait for the next nexus phone.
one thing great about nexus phones is that they get all the new updates faster than others. i held my nexus one for more than 1 year before selling it for something better. but while all the software updates are good, the phone eventually got too laggy for me even with launchers and other things running on it.
if you're getting an iphone 5.... i have no words for you
they are already working on a new nexus, too bad samsung is making it. ihope they change it.
TechnoNeto said:
+1 in a month when cm7 and other roms are available your going to be a little disappointed you hadnt waited out a little longer and got the same or similar ui exprience with more speed and a longer time line in terms of being future proof. soon the nexus s will be completely outdated while the atrix wont
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The atrix is going to be outdated before the nexus s because the nexus s will keep getting updates before any phone which will keep it up to date. Afterall it is a Google phone and Google is bound to release 2.4 fairly soon and by that time, nexus s would have the newest update while the atrix would remain on 2.3 for another 4-5 months.
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ameedi600 said:
The atrix is going to be outdated before the nexus s because the nexus s will keep getting updates before any phone which will keep it up to date. Afterall it is a Google phone and Google is bound to release 2.4 fairly soon and by that time, nexus s would have the newest update while the atrix would remain on 2.3 for another 4-5 months.
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PFFFF!. UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER Atrix. Custom Ice Cream roms...
think twice.
jmgg2k said:
PFFFF!. UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER Atrix. Custom Ice Cream roms...
think twice.
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+1 //10char