Developer Guide for Epic 4g - Epic 4G General

https://docs.google.com/View?id=dhtsnvs6_57d2hpqtgr&pli=1
Couple of interesting things:
1- They discuss working directly with Google for 4g Froyo support.
What does that mean?
Froyo is coming. It will be here. Just sit tight and have faith in your favorite network
2- They discuss 4G api calls
What does that mean?
When they release the SDK for the Epic, we might see code support for 4G control. Which means it might hit CyanogenMod faster than we thought.
Have at it!

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new update coming?

http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTou...TA-update-today-from-2-to-3/m-p/651347#M23472
anyone else get this. I am still on 1.35.531.1
there are reports of 1.35.531.3 what is this?
Wow no one has seen this yet
I seen it but I had nothing to say since well, I haven't seen anything regarding this lol, any one have info?
Could just be one of those random updates they push out to break root.
Not trying to threadjack but peeking into the regular MyTouch 3G forums the announcement has been made for the update on the 3.5mm and Fender. They say it should be done by the 1st of Feb so we should be just after that one would assume.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-3G/Ladies-and-Gentlemen-Froyo/td-p/496813
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They can't get wifi to work and the partition that the update is installed on is too small, no release date given because of these two problems.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/mytouch-slide-update-delayed-by-two-issues/
Wow ... that link had a lot of negative comments about the Slide. Lot's of hate and animosity in the Android community! I don't get it ... my Slide is super smooth and now that I'm finally getting consistent 4mbps data speeds from TMO's network I am 99% satisfied with it. I can wait until upgrade time for a dual core phone.
It amazes me when I consider the CM team's capacity for production and consistent and reliable development and the lack of such behavior from an international device manufacturer and a major US mobile service provider ... At any rate, it'll be interesting to see what the developers can do with the update because I will not be using a Sense based ROM in the foreseeable future.
Thanks for the post and link.
Seems like it's about ready. Assuming the Rom with the new Radio is complete and has the 2 issues fixed we should see it after the 3.5/Fenders are done. Maybe 1 Feb or so,

MIUI.US

Anyone checked out miui.us
it was a huge coming soon logo the otherday, now its up! I was actually gonna ask if anyone knew anything about it. but there is a Nexus S secction
miui.us
theres one on www.miuiandroid.com too
To avoid further drama i’ve simply decided to make an announcement regards to what’s going on.
MIUIAndroid.com will continue to serve the supported Android MIUI devices as it has done since its inception. The ported devices such as the Evo 4G, Droid Incredible, Evo 4G Shift and Thunderbolt will be available from http://miui.us
I wish the porting developers every success and actually welcome the split, to better let them serve their device users. This allows for the site here to continue to focus on the supported devices.
People were shouting on censorships, this was not true there was just things that needed to be put in place first.
Thanks,
Mark
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some thought about the delay on gingerbread release for Epic 4G

The early gingerbread release is designed to keep people happy. so they make an update happen on the 20th of June with android 2.3.3 system is complete but they aren't done with RIL, kernel and modem optimization. They fork the most stable branch of the ril, kernel, and modem from samsung source tree. They delay this release from 2 weeks to 1 month. (usually the update comes in 2 week after successfully testing it). They did it to make the span between update seem short.
I think there is another update with 2.3.4 and stable optimized stuff after 2 week in "samsung time" after the initial update to gingerbread *
* "Samsung time" may be 4x more than expected
just my 2 cents
noobnl said:
The early gingerbread release is designed to keep people happy. so they make an update happen on the 20th of June with android 2.3.3 system is complete but they aren't done with RIL, kernel and modem optimization. They fork the most stable branch of the ril, kernel, and modem from samsung source tree. They delay this release from 2 weeks to 1 month. (usually the update comes in 2 week after successfully testing it). They did it to make the span between update seem short.
I think there is another update with 2.3.4 and stable optimized stuff after 2 week in "samsung time" after the initial update to gingerbread *
* "Samsung time" may be 4x more than expected
just my 2 cents
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meh, not buying it. more to gain by keeping on course. lots of phones doing it right now so bricks and problems are so expected that they can write it off.
I take this as a bad news!
Nice to see you back noobnl.
Since most phones are not on gingerbread yet, I'm not surprised if it is delayed.
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He is saying we will have the gingerbread update on the 20th then another even more optimised update after that. So there's no delay. We will be on gingerbread it will just get better ppl so be happy
silver03wrx said:
He is saying we will have the gingerbread update on the 20th then another even more optimised update after that. So there's no delay. We will be on gingerbread it will just get better ppl so be happy
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Exactly what I was reading. Sorry, for wandering off course, read it too fast.
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I sorta agree with noobnl, if anything it makes it look like they are trying hard to keep it updated by having more updates...
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I sorta agree with noobnl, if anything it makes it look like they are trying hard to keep it updated by having more updates...
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really, this isn't too bad. I wouldn't call it "... look like they are trying hard..."
I'd call it here's a 'fairly' stable build. play with it while we watch XDA for the bugs, we'll tweak the bugs, then do a maintenance release to fix the bugs
If anything this is a good thing for their PR.. they've had a bad rap over the years regarding updates.. this (so far) has been a welcomed change of pace IMO
I agree.
I accept any updates with open arms.
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noobnl said:
The early gingerbread release is designed to keep people happy. so they make an update happen on the 20th of June with android 2.3.3 system is complete but they aren't done with RIL, kernel and modem optimization. They fork the most stable branch of the ril, kernel, and modem from samsung source tree. They delay this release from 2 weeks to 1 month. (usually the update comes in 2 week after successfully testing it). They did it to make the span between update seem short.
I think there is another update with 2.3.4 and stable optimized stuff after 2 week in "samsung time" after the initial update to gingerbread *
* "Samsung time" may be 4x more than expected
just my 2 cents
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Of course they'll probably release bug fixes. You made a "prediction" out of something that's more or less a truism.
However, I disagree. Aside from the camera and keyboard, the Epic is very much like the Nexus S 4g. They already have complete source for that. Aside from integrating Sprint Spyware and Touchwiz, very little has to be done from the existing Nexus S 4g. Major stability issues would exist here.
Now, the Nexus S 4G does have known bugs, which is where the truism part comes in. The Epic will be subject to any bugs the Nexus has, otherwise they would have fixed it there first. It's well known that the Nexus S 4g gets sub-par data speeds. Whether or not this will be transferred to the Epic is to be determined.
You also set your margins of error pretty wide, first saying they'll be deploying ril, modem, and kernel fixes, then in your second stanza saying they'll be rolling out "optimizations". Employing fixes in the base layers critical to stability of the platform are hardly optimizations. Further, you cite 2 weeks for this prediction, and then expand it to 2 months. This is a pretty large window.
At what point in this blathering of a post did you actually make a prediction?
Again, that's just his predictions/presumptions. Don't flamed the poor guy. Just like everyone else, all are just predictions and presumptions. When updates hit your phone, then it will. Stop flaming the dude before he goes into extinction for another few months! LOL
jnadke said:
Of course they'll probably release bug fixes. You made a "prediction" out of something that's more or less a truism.
However, I disagree. Aside from the camera and keyboard, the Epic is very much like the Nexus S 4g. They already have complete source for that. Aside from integrating Sprint Spyware and Touchwiz, very little has to be done from the existing Nexus S 4g. Major stability issues would exist here.
Now, the Nexus S 4G does have known bugs, which is where the truism part comes in. The Epic will be subject to any bugs the Nexus has, otherwise they would have fixed it there first. It's well known that the Nexus S 4g gets sub-par data speeds. Whether or not this will be transferred to the Epic is to be determined.
You also set your margins of error pretty wide, first saying they'll be deploying ril, modem, and kernel fixes, then in your second stanza saying they'll be rolling out "optimizations". Employing fixes in the base layers critical to stability of the platform are hardly optimizations. Further, you cite 2 weeks for this prediction, and then expand it to 2 months. This is a pretty large window.
At what point in this blathering of a post did you actually make a prediction?
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As soon as you have something usefull to say, post it. Until then, just read.
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zanderman112 said:
As soon as you have something usefull to say, post it. Until then, just read.
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What he said.
I see a lot of facts not in evidence here, and a lot of wishful thinking. My feeling is that you're sadly mistaken if Samsung worries about the appearance of "keeping up" or that not releasing updates in a timely manor is "bad PR". I would hazard a guess that less than 5% of the Epic 4G user base hangs out here, or even spends much time thinking about what OS they run. They don't care unless it's broken, and the current version isn't.
It's easy to wish for it, and even try to project your reality onto the situation, but here's the fact - Samsung is a HUGE company and the Epic 4G accounts for probably .002% of their biz. They aren't losing sleep over what the Epic user base is thinking about. Heck, a few months ago we didn't even think that GB was in the cards for the Epic.
So I guess my opinion is that it will happen when it happens. To try and read between the lines is no better than a wild guess at this point.
ccnd8 said:
Again, that's just his predictions/presumptions. Don't flamed the poor guy. Just like everyone else, all are just predictions and presumptions. When updates hit your phone, then it will. Stop flaming the dude before he goes into extinction for another few months! LOL
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Before people flame me, I was partially being facetious. Hence the
Not hatin', noobnl.
zanderman112 said:
As soon as you have something usefull to say, post it. Until then, just read.
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I did post my counter-thoughts. Beyond mirroring Nexus S 4g, any future patches should be mainly stability improvements in the TouchWiz/Android integration. Gingerbread, despite being a minor update in looks, was a huge update in API. A lot of stuff is likely broken that will slip QA.
There will always be follow-up patches in any software release cycle. The Epic had 2/3(?) patches for Eclair, 2 patches for FroYo, and probably no less than 2 for GB, since it'll be the last update for a while, if ever.
I apologize for posting my counter-thoughts in his thread. Next time I will make a new one.
I also apologize for coming off as attacking noobnl. I wasn't aware he had a beer flavored schlong.
noobnl said:
The early gingerbread release is designed to keep people happy. so they make an update happen on the 20th of June with android 2.3.3 system is complete but they aren't done with RIL, kernel and modem optimization. They fork the most stable branch of the ril, kernel, and modem from samsung source tree. They delay this release from 2 weeks to 1 month. (usually the update comes in 2 week after successfully testing it). They did it to make the span between update seem short.
I think there is another update with 2.3.4 and stable optimized stuff after 2 week in "samsung time" after the initial update to gingerbread *
* "Samsung time" may be 4x more than expected
just my 2 cents
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Well if there is anyone's 2 cents around here I would put money on its noobnl. If there is anyone who knows what goes into developing the OS and what goes into making it all work it would be noobnl or Dameon87. Two of the most recognized and respected names in Epic 4g hacking history in my own opinion. Many of the newer users in the past few months have no clue who these two people are or what they have done but if it wasn't for these guys we wouldn't have squat for the Epic 4g. Before anyone doubts what these two and others have to say they should do their studying and read up on who's names are all over OneClickRoot, CWM and many other things we use constantly in rooting and hacking with the Epic 4g.
Just my 2 cents...
zanderman112 said:
As soon as you have something usefull to say, post it. Until then, just read.
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LOL, coming from you.
Paul627g said:
Well if there is anyone's 2 cents around here I would put money on its noobnl. If there is anyone who knows what goes into developing the OS and what goes into making it all work it would be noobnl or Dameon87. Two of the most recognized and respected names in Epic 4g hacking history in my own opinion. Many of the newer users in the past few months have no clue who these two people are or what they have done but if it wasn't for these guys we wouldn't have squat for the Epic 4g. Before anyone doubts what these two and others have to say they should do their studying and read up on who's names are all over OneClickRoot, CWM and many other things we use constantly in rooting and hacking with the Epic 4g.
Just my 2 cents...
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Oh, I agree, Noobnl, Dameon87, and k0nane are the **** around here. This community would be largely lost without them.
They're not the best though, that title is reserved for dzo, the guy who got Android working from largely scratch on the HTC Touch (Windows phone), my old community.
I'm aware of the integration aspects of Android. I've compiled my own AOSP for the HTC Touch, built a GPS driver for the HTC Touch, and done some RIL hacking / development. Further, I was employed for 3 years as a linux developer for small platforms just like these phones. Alas, I do not have the time commitment nor the strive anymore unlike those three above.
I give my hat to them, but I am more than capable of making my own highly experienced opinion.
bigray327 said:
LOL, coming from you.
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Wait, what is that supposed to mean? I'm very helpful lol

What the LTE EVO means for the OG EVO (development wise)

So once the LTE Evo/One S/OneX makes it into the hands of developers, Will devs be able to glean anything from the new HTC handsets that will help in the development of ICS for our OG EVO?
cobmojo said:
So once the LTE Evo/One S/OneX makes it into the hands of developers, Will devs be able to glean anything from the new HTC handsets that will help in the development of ICS for our OG EVO?
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Its the kernel thats really stopping it we have a aosp but sense needs to release the source code for the kernel for dev to get to working. its where the good stuff drivers are in. Its easy to port will need the kernel so......
And HTC is obligated to release kernel info within 30 days. If I remember correctly.
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Going by Ca1ne's post HTC will release 90-120 days after it's been out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24614403&postcount=168
Naters
NaterTots said:
Going by Ca1ne's post HTC will release 90-120 days after it's been out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24614403&postcount=168
Naters
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I believe that's only relating to an OTA update. It would only make sense that a newly released device would have a shorter time frame.

CM9 for US SIII?

Are the US variations of the SIII going to receive the CM9 treatment as well? I am still using my Droid Charge (Verizon LTE phone) and due to Samsung not releasing the RIL for this phone it has been extremely difficult to get any good support (radio wise) for CM and other roms.
Are we going to be running into the same issue for the US LTE version of this phone?
The fact that this is already at 4.0.4 should make it much easier to have a working CM9. I'd bet on us having plenty of AOSP choices fairly soon, I'm expecting a good dev community for this phone.
http://www.epiccm.org/ Team Epic is already working on the Sprint varient which should lead to all phones getting it. The only difference in our phones is the radios.
Thats what im trying to find out. With the Droid Charge being an LTE phone, Samsung never released the RIL for the phone making it impossible to get 4g data or any type of data to begin with.
Has something changed now with ICS or has Samsung released its RIL for this phone yet? Because if not I believe that even if a CM9 build comes out for it, its either going to be wifi only or if they manage to patch some things it will have only voice but no data.
Correct me if im wrong but this was the situation with my current Droid Charge.
Enphenate said:
Thats what im trying to find out. With the Droid Charge being an LTE phone, Samsung never released the RIL for the phone making it impossible to get 4g data or any type of data to begin with.
Has something changed now with ICS or has Samsung released its RIL for this phone yet? Because if not I believe that even if a CM9 build comes out for it, its either going to be wifi only or if they manage to patch some things it will have only voice but no data.
Correct me if im wrong but this was the situation with my current Droid Charge.
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With the SGSII they didn't have one, but they with time and patience reverse engineered it IIRC. Funny enough, when they finally got it working a leaked 4.0.4 came out, which gave them what they needed. It can be done, just will take time. The advantage right now is that there are devices out that should be quite similar, Galaxy Nexus on Sprint is one I can think of right off the bat.

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