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Samsung pulls out the Galaxy S Froyo update due to bugs?

We have to wait for some time now...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pulls_off_the_galaxy_s_froyo_update_due_to_bugs-news-2014.php

I can't belive that....again....

Well they had the problem with the Marked icon was gone when they did update it tru Kies and i did hear from some of the guys on the GSM samsung support that sometimes it did go to Download mode when they did the reset to get marked back... So in my eyes it is only to late they pull the firmware back again... lol...
But i think the biggest problem lies in Kies and not so much in the firmware as i have been using the JP6 for the last week now and no stability problems but i did also update using Odin...

@samsungukmobile Samsung UK Mobile
The Froyo upgrade will be available in the UK from early November and we expect all operator versions to be available by the end of November.
Can I hope that I'll do this update until 2011?

2020 is more likely to be the year..

ParanoidDK said:
Well they had the problem with the Marked icon was gone when they did update it tru Kies and i did hear from some of the guys on the GSM samsung support that sometimes it did go to Download mode when they did the reset to get marked back... So in my eyes it is only to late they pull the firmware back again... lol...
But i think the biggest problem lies in Kies and not so much in the firmware as i have been using the JP6 for the last week now and no stability problems but i did also update using Odin...
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True about Kies, must be a problem with it... They released about 5 updates last month.

Well i am just happy i never installed Kies on my computer... They should make Odin more user minded and use that as the update system on there android phones.. but then again they might just destroy that trying to make it user friendly..

looks like it's true coz actually galaxy 2.2 disappointed me, it's lag, slow.....

Hope that Samsung uses the extra time well and gets their act together,as their implementation of froyo on the Galaxy S has proven to be a very crippled and awkward one so far.

i've been using froyo 2.2 updated with odin and it works fine. i did install voodoo lag fix. can't really complain about it all.

Been using it since release day (updated through kies).
As stock rom i felt it very laggy and wasnt pleased at all, but i rooted it and applied lag fix, so it seems blazing fast now, getting good scores in linpack and quadrant.
Quadrant: 1882
Linpack: 14.38

Of course, there's a big risk attached in believing everything that GSM Arena says.... they have been known to get things wrong in the past. Quite a LOT wrong in fact...

darksaber73 said:
Hope that Samsung uses the extra time well and gets their act together,as their implementation of froyo on the Galaxy S has proven to be a very crippled and awkward one so far.
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well considering that 75% of the GSM calls on the nordic samsung support the last week have been about the missing marked icon/download mode after 2.2 in Kies i might say that it seems like the right thing to do...
But again forgot to ask them there before i did go home..

Wow, I thought the HTC Hero saga was pathetic, but we're on the same boat now.

Galaxy S likely to Get Froyo from this week !!!

http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5196562-samsung-starts-froyo-updates-
Check out this thread for FROYO by SamFirmWare
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Samsung Starts with Froyo updates next week.
They start with Europe.
After Europe the will go to Asia and Africa.
Every Galaxy S user could update his device with Samsung Kies.
Or with our way. (ODIN)
The firmwares will be XWJPA or XXJPO. (For Europe)
Both firmwares leaked on our website already.
So if you want you could download them and update your mobile!
Good Luck!
Remember after this Release Samsung keep supporting your device!
So please check weekly Samsung Kies or our website!
Why we think this are the KIES releases?
When you checked all newsmessages you find out that Samsung removed JPM from his servers.
A couple of days ago SamsungMobileUK place on his facebook and twitter that they start in begin November till the end of November for all operators.
When we check now the new Firmware versions it could be the new KIES releases. For Europe and Scandinavian.
Every Galaxy S phone will have Android 2.2 before 2011!
We have currently no information for the Samsung I5800 and I5500.

But JPA has many bugs... This is the famous new and fast FW?

I wonder how many will sell their devices if this is true?

almaalma74 said:
But JPA has many bugs... This is the famous new and fast FW?
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This has been said over a billion times, no software will be w/o bugs. Even HTC devices are pretty buggy.. Probably the one with the least bugs is the Nexus 1.

SkinBobUk said:
I wonder how many will sell their devices if this is true?
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I know I won't.
I love the phone and I am on 2.1.
I can't see what's the big deal with froyo. None of the features it brings are groundbreaking (maybe with the exception of flash 10).
I don't think I would upgrade anyway...

allotrios said:
I know I won't.
I love the phone and I am on 2.1.
I can't see what's the big deal with froyo. None of the features it brings are groundbreaking (maybe with the exception of flash 10).
I don't think I would upgrade anyway...
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Alot of new apps need 2.2. eg new Gmail app, Youtube app, Skype only seems to work on 2.2 with SGS, to name a few.

Nammmmmmmmmmm

psp888 said:
Alot of new apps need 2.2. eg new Gmail app, Youtube app, Skype only seems to work on 2.2 with SGS, to name a few.
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That's nice, but I don't think any of these updates are "must have" for me. The changes on the gmail app are not essential for me. I don't use youtube that much and when I use it I find it good enough and the skype implementation is not bringing video calls, so I don't want it.
If and when something amazing comes to 2.2 that I definitely must have, I may upgrade. Until then I would rather see bug fixes than new features as the phone already does a lot!

running jp6 with a modded kernel (341 megs by hardcore!), and its extremely quick and stable! i totally love my sgs the way it is now and have very few things to whine about
i just want samsung to commit on gingerbread for our devices

So, that "fast" FW samfirmware was talking about is going to be just a firmware with less lags than in pulled scandinavian official Froyo? That sucks, because my phone feels laggy (black screens) even on JM9 with Voodoo. And lagfix is the ONLY thing that i need from new FWs.

At least we will have official Froyo.... be happy!

h.robert said:
At least we will have official Froyo.... be happy!
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I'm sorry but it's not cool. Samsung seems to have this strange policy to release high-end devices and not provide proper support for them.
Right now I'm using JPK with OCLF and Launcher Pro Plus and I'm happy with my phone. But both OCLF and Launcher Pro are third party apps.
There are tons of lagfix solutions and custom ROMs that are better than the stock ones.
Customizing your device must be a choice and not a necessity so you can get decent performance on a top-notch hardware.
And I keep getting the feeling that they leak ROMs intentionally and use XDA users as guinea pigs. And are using devs to fix the issues...
Sorry that my first post ever in this forum is so negative but I'm getting really mad and impatient with Samsung...

SkinBobUk said:
I wonder how many will sell their devices if this is true?
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after 3 months of waiting i finally decided to sell my loved SGS.
its a good phone, but a buggy one, in my opinion a bit to buggy.
I hope for u all there will be at least this "fast" new ROM out there soon.

Sociopathic said:
I'm sorry but it's not cool. Samsung seems to have this strange policy to release high-end devices and not provide proper support for them.
Right now I'm using JPK with OCLF and Launcher Pro Plus and I'm happy with my phone. But both OCLF and Launcher Pro are third party apps.
There are tons of lagfix solutions and custom ROMs that are better than the stock ones.
Customizing your device must be a choice and not a necessity so you can get decent performance on a top-notch hardware.
And I keep getting the feeling that they leak ROMs intentionally and use XDA users as guinea pigs. And are using devs to fix the issues...
Sorry that my first post ever in this forum is so negative but I'm getting really mad and impatient with Samsung...
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Yeah, the lagfixes are great, except when they corrupt your IMEI and cause other issues. You do get decent performance without them. The lag patches haven't been flawless either... And yes, despite the crap samsung gets, I used an iPhone 4 the other day, and it was taking MUCH longer to respond to minor things (despite the fact iphones use compiled code, so they should be even more responsive).
In regards to samfirmware, forget about the rumor sites, most of them have been consistently wrong, and haven't been using credible sources.

@Sociopathic: I have a friend with HTC Desire and Froyo for 4 months I guess and he's not happy... he feels that the Froyo update for his phone is not properly made.
My guess is Samsung was not prepared for Andorid's rise. Not even Google. So, we have to be pacient. Good things will come with Android. Samsung is moving slow because is a huge company with a lot of people to decide what and when goes online, each one pushing his interests. Someone wants Froyo so contain this, other that and so on...
Tolisan decided to sell his Galaxy S. He cut the **** and moved on.
Enjoy your Galaxy S or buy something else. I'm happy with mine! Best phone I ever had!

*yawn*
i'm more excited with the post about samsung's intention to make better pc software then kies

Why you complain everytime about bugs?
I use my phone often, and most of all "bugs" are PEBTAC.
(Problem exists between Touchscreen and chair).
But I'm wondering about the not optimized JIT.
Is it so difficult for Samsung to unleash the performance of the 1337 CPU?
And it's strange that they canceled JPM and made just minor changes.
That's what disappointed me

Gohst_oc said:
Why you complain everytime about bugs?
I use my phone often, and most of all "bugs" are PEBTAC.
(Problem exists between Touchscreen and chair).
But I'm wondering about the not optimized JIT.
Is it so difficult for Samsung to unleash the performance of the 1337 CPU?
And it's strange that they canceled JPM and made just minor changes.
That's what disappointed me
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JPM was possibly only a release candidate in the first place. And we don't know exactly what was fixed anyway. There may have been some less-common major bugs fixed.
In regards to optimising JIT, our JIT might be optimised, but might simply not be optimised for the benchmarks. Remember, most CPU benchmarks only test a small number of instructions.

KA5 is snappy

What is everyone else's impression of the new KA5 leak? I have all of my apps loaded up and I'm using it and I'm really enjoying it.. it's the fastest 2.2 out for the Vibrant to date. Signal appears to be good too. When scrolling the Applications list, it's much improved over any other firmware version for the Vibrant.. even though it's populating all of the icons and etc., you can still scroll up and down. Overall I'm impressed. If you thought JL5 was good, KA5 is better.

Do you mean the modem, kernel, the whole ROM? Perhaps you'd be interested in reading / posting in one or more of these already existent threads...
Modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911705
ROM / Kernel / Modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911715

epakrat75 said:
Do you mean the modem, kernel, the whole ROM? Perhaps you'd be interested in reading / posting in one or more of these already existent threads...
Modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911705
ROM / Kernel / Modem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912239
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911715
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So you mean to say that they released ANOTHER functional build of FROYO
hmmm
I guess we can say that
1. They had a fully functional STABLE release with JL5
2. and NOW an update KA5 which is faster
(Basically fixes the bugs in JL5 AKA a maintenance update A La JFD > JI6)
Seeing that this is 185 MB compared to over 200 for JL5
3. I think we have OBVIOUS evidence PROVING that Samsung is definitely holding back the update, in order to amp up marketing for their newer upcoming devices
The Galaxy without a condom on (4G)
and The upcoming Galaxy 2 (The One with the 4.5 inch screen seen at CES)
Don't forget that The Nexus S IS a Galaxy Variant

MicBeast said:
So you mean to say that they released ANOTHER functional build of FROYO
hmmm
I guess we can say that
1. They had a fully functional STABLE release with JL5
2. and NOW an update KA5 which is faster
(Basically fixes the bugs in JL5 AKA a maintenance update A La JFD > JI6)
Seeing that this is 185 MB compared to over 200 for JL5
3. I think we have OBVIOUS evidence PROVING that Samsung is definitely holding back the update, in order to amp up marketing for their newer upcoming devices
The Galaxy without a condom on (4G)
and The upcoming Galaxy 2 (The One with the 4.5 inch screen seen at CES)
Don't forget that The Nexus S IS a Galaxy Variant
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Don't fool yourself, JL5 was OK but it had a nasty little memory leak somewhere that caused my phone to be completely inoperable phone after using Navigation/Music Player on a trip for about 4 hours. The capacitive menu button still doesn't work right. App size under Appications is still wrong. App downloads would often come back and unsuccessful, MMS had issues from what I understand.. take your conspiracy theory you got off of some guy somewhere else

MicBeast said:
So you mean to say that they released ANOTHER functional build of FROYO
hmmm
I guess we can say that
1. They had a fully functional STABLE release with JL5
2. and NOW an update KA5 which is faster
(Basically fixes the bugs in JL5 AKA a maintenance update A La JFD > JI6)
Seeing that this is 185 MB compared to over 200 for JL5
3. I think we have OBVIOUS evidence PROVING that Samsung is definitely holding back the update, in order to amp up marketing for their newer upcoming devices
The Galaxy without a condom on (4G)
and The upcoming Galaxy 2 (The One with the 4.5 inch screen seen at CES)
Don't forget that The Nexus S IS a Galaxy Variant
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I think what we have here is OBVIOUS evidence PROVING what Samsung has been saying all along. And that is to take time and release a fully functional and stable update and considering each leak is an improvement on the previous leak only proves they are doing just that.
Let's release a ROM (JL5) knowing its gonna need a "maintenance update" (KA5) soon after... make sense to you?
Considering the quality of this leak, it will be released soon.
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(most likely) Why Gingerbread is taking so long.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date
in a move that shows there is some kind of cover-up of the mistake of the lack of Android 2.3 devices on the market (aside from the Nexus S) 2.4 will still be called Gingerbread, as the only new feature it adds will be this ability to support dual-core apps on a single-core device.
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Makes complete sense. Dev's are already using the honeycomb SDK to produce apps made for dual core devices. Google cares more about having the maximum number of apps to be available to as many people as possible rather than having a handful of consumers having the absolute latest edition (and I have to agree with them).
How many stock vanilla android devices are there? Just us and the NS (pretty sure no one gets OTA's the day of except us two). Getting an OS out there for everyone is more important then keeping a relatively small group happy with the latest official build. Besides, the N1 is meant for ROM's. Google want's us to play with them, which is why I own the phone. If you've been waiting for gingerbread, just flash a freaking ROM and be happy.
Gingerbread isn't even that great anyway.

AFAIK Gingerbread suffers different problems:
1. security
2. resets
IMHO google devs are working on them before pushing 2.3 on the nexus one too, making it vulnerable and unstable.

elegos said:
AFAIK Gingerbread suffers different problems:
1. security
2. resets
IMHO google devs are working on them before pushing 2.3 on the nexus one too, making it vulnerable and unstable.
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Yhea i did read about the resets in NS, i'm using GB on N1 but it never resets on it's own.

commodoor said:
Yhea i did read about the resets in NS, i'm using GB on N1 but it never resets on it's own.
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The resets may be an issue with the Nexus S hardware, and not with the OS. The Samsung Galaxy S phones have quite a few "issues", just ask any owner of a Captivate. I switched from the Captivate to a Nexus One, it is a much better phone.

commodoor said:
Yhea i did read about the resets in NS, i'm using GB on N1 but it never resets on it's own.
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I'm on CM7 and getting occasional random resets.

Google announced 27. January that OTA for Nexus S coming in 1-2 weeks, I don´t know why, but maybe we´ll see both Nexus One and Nexus S OTA.

I wish people would stop saying "just flash a GB ROM and be done with it", there's more to it than that. The N1 is sort of a reference design for alot of phones out there. A working N1 GB ROM means solid drivers, solid battery life, solid performance, etc.
I also have an HD2, it's running GB but the battery life (and BT stack in particular) is pretty poor. Devs say they won't be able to improve much until there are more GB ROMs they can pick parts from. First on that list is the N1.
There are more than just us Nexus One users tapping their fingers waiting for Google on this.

elegos said:
AFAIK Gingerbread suffers different problems:
1. security
2. resets
IMHO google devs are working on them before pushing 2.3 on the nexus one too, making it vulnerable and unstable.
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The "reset" issue is specific to the NS hardware. Samsung screwed the pooch on that one. There are plenty of people here running GB roms with out issue.
But I do believe the security flaws recently discovered to have a significant impact on GB's delayed release.

GldRush98 said:
The "reset" issue is specific to the NS hardware. Samsung screwed the pooch on that one. There are plenty of people here running GB roms with out issue.
But I do believe the security flaws recently discovered to have a significant impact on GB's delayed release.
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I've had plenty of resets on my N1 with CM7

James Bell said:
I wish people would stop saying "just flash a GB ROM and be done with it", there's more to it than that. The N1 is sort of a reference design for alot of phones out there. A working N1 GB ROM means solid drivers, solid battery life, solid performance, etc.
I also have an HD2, it's running GB but the battery life (and BT stack in particular) is pretty poor. Devs say they won't be able to improve much until there are more GB ROMs they can pick parts from. First on that list is the N1.
There are more than just us Nexus One users tapping their fingers waiting for Google on this.
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My N1 is running a GB ROM with solid battery life, and performance. I don't know about drivers but everything works perfectly and as it should. Almost like I am running an official build of GB. The reboot issue only seemed to occur on CM7.. oddly. And it wasn't frequent enough for me to care.
I thought the HD2 always had pathetic battery life when it came to Android. Mine's did, until I remembered to install SetCPU. It last all day, which is just what I need.

I mean the AOSP was released for gingerbread, so we can get some pretty stable ROM's. No it isn't as good as an official update, but if I wanted to wait for official updates, I would have bought a desire.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think most ROM's that are cooked are built using the ASOP rather than modified stock ROM's. It isn't worth waiting and complaining for a 100% optimized OTA ROM when there are tons of temporary solutions.

XSafire said:
I mean the AOSP was released for gingerbread, so we can get some pretty stable ROM's. No it isn't as good as an official update, but if I wanted to wait for official updates, I would have bought a desire.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think most ROM's that are cooked are built using the ASOP rather than modified stock ROM's. It isn't worth waiting and complaining for a 100% optimized OTA ROM when there are tons of temporary solutions.
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dont get ya. do you think desire owners arent using AOSP ginger?

XSafire said:
I mean the AOSP was released for gingerbread, so we can get some pretty stable ROM's. No it isn't as good as an official update, but if I wanted to wait for official updates, I would have bought a desire.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think most ROM's that are cooked are built using the ASOP rather than modified stock ROM's. It isn't worth waiting and complaining for a 100% optimized OTA ROM when there are tons of temporary solutions.
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I bought the N1 because it was great hardware and, most importantly, because it was carrier free. The ability to root and flash the phone is nice in case I ever feel the need to admin yet another Linux machine, but that was certainly not everyones reason for getting the phone.

madman_cro said:
dont get ya. do you think desire owners arent using AOSP ginger?
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I simply meant that we receive updates as soon as they are available, and are the first ones to get it. Desire has to wait for HTC to update sense and drivers and all that stuff until they release an OTA.
pfmiller said:
I bought the N1 because it was great hardware and, most importantly, because it was carrier free. The ability to root and flash the phone is nice in case I ever feel the need to admin yet another Linux machine, but that was certainly not everyones reason for getting the phone.
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Touche, although there aren't many people on these forums with the same intentions. I was simply speaking to the masses.

I don't know why release is taking so long...

My N1 resets randomly on CM7.... but luckily I don't have the wonks!
Google will release it when its ready!

samsung giveth then google taketh away

we need to find out why ginger bread was taken away and when its going to get released again....ive searched and all i can find on android web sites saying the info about google pulling the plug on the galaxy s ginger bread was from xda but no body on here knows whats going on

its because of a few issues / bugs, and is not finalised / stable enough to be released for kies (samsung are strict on this ) but its still available here on XDA and on samfirmware

They will bring it out when they think its ready for release. I'm happy to wait if they fix the problems and release a decent version.

got-petrol said:
we need to find out why ginger bread was taken away and when its going to get released again....ive searched and all i can find on android web sites saying the info about google pulling the plug on the galaxy s ginger bread was from xda but no body on here knows whats going on
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I think there is no way to know why.
Of course there is ppl that knows but it seems not likely that they will post a explanation here, and even if they did someone will always say “no the reason is this or that” and the speculations will never end.
just my 2cents.
/qsec

No one has mentioned the front camera orientation bug yet???

I am also glad that they should be working hard on a newer better version right now, whatever the specific problem that got it pulled might have been.
The initial version seemed a bit rushed, being first with a 2.3 update is fine to brag about but I think we'd rather have it done right. I believe I heard somewhere that it shouldn't have even been released and somebody jumped the gun?

azzledazzle said:
its because of a few issues / bugs, and is not finalised / stable enough to be released for kies (samsung are strict on this ) but its still available here on XDA and on samfirmware
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Do you mean that the official samsung firmwares (the ones released with kies) have less bug than the others ?
Less lag ? Better GPS ?
I've my SGS since July and I'm still waiting for an official GPS fix
Gingerbread was announced for march, then delayed for april, and now we don't have any schedule...
Same story than the froyo update, with the difference that they now are trying to charge Google for the delay.
Where is SamsunJohn ?

herbert1 said:
Do you mean that the official samsung firmwares (the ones released with kies) have less bug than the others ?
Less lag ? Better GPS ?
I've my SGS since July and I'm still waiting for an official GPS fix
Gingerbread was announced for march, then delayed for april, and now we don't have any schedule...
Same story than the froyo update, with the difference that they now are trying to charge Google for the delay.
Where is SamsunJohn ?
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You haven't tryed GB yet eh?

Do you mean that the official samsung firmwares (the ones released with kies) have less bug than the others
Thats the only official path others are might be or might not be the real deal .
Kies will release firmware that has been branded /adapted by the network supplier . Basic unbranded phone get the vanilla update .
If the update is xxbb version then it will be the same as xxbb verion from other sources .
JVB lets call it still beta has slightly better performance than the almost no lag 2.2.1 that is i dont require a lagfix for either .
GPS is i reckon about 10% better compared to 2.2.1 > 11 sats found compared to 7 on 2.2.1 is the cold boot average for me .
Battery life looks to be better as well .
jje