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[Q] Rooted vibrant and OTA Froyo 2.2 upgrade

My question is if I have a rooted vibrant to I get the OTA Froyo 2.2 upgrade? After the upgrade my phone would probably be unrooted or lockdown again. What about all the stock apps that I took off would that still be off? I'll say yes but I'm not sure. One last question. What about all the software that I need root to run would that be gone or not usable? and if those are paid software I would have to buy those again. Sorry for all the questions, I'm very new to android I got my phone 3 days ago.
Thank You,
Denyson

Ok let see if I could help u out here. 1st of all u dont have to root to get 2.2 it come from t-mobile. If u root u would still get an ota froyo update if u didnt change the kenel, but it will unroot it. 2nd u might have a problem from the update since u take some of the bloatware off. 3rd all the paying app that u pay will b in ur maket if it get reset and u dont have to pay it again. And if root app then u have to root it again or it wouldnt work. Hope that help
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dont worry about 2.2. Were never getting it

You got the phone three days ago, you rooted and removed apps?! I'm proud of you =)
I would think that it might be best to go back to stock before you installed the OTA myself.
Definitely do a nandroid backup though....and maybe a titanium backup too..
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Thanks tructo that does help. my kernel still the same stock. I'm a bit worry about the stock apps problem part. Also I hope we do get it Froyo 2.2 upgrade. and I hope that we can root that version also.

Would a factory reset put it back to stock? With the stock apps and all? but if we can not root Froyo 2.2. I don't want it. I'll stay where I'm now. I love that one click lag fix, battery could be better but all in all is a great phone.

I dont think u can do factory reset unless u do nandroid bacj up b4 u took it out. But the best thing to do is use odin back to stock. Dont worry about u cant root with 2.2. There is alway a way. The dev for this fone is great and it seem to me that samsung doesnt try to stop us fron rooting. That y it so siple to root it in the first place. And use titanium back up, it save all the app for u
P.s: for the battery problem I use bionix fusion rom in the develope section it great
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tructo said:
I dont think u can do factory reset unless u do nandroid bacj up b4 u took it out. But the best thing to do is use odin back to stock
My brother used odin to go back to stock and he still didn't receive the ji6 update yet and it was suppose to end in october 31.
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I need to figure out how to backup roms? I install rom manager but when I was backing up it hang on the linux.ex2 file. I think thats because I have the one click lag fix in place. I need to read more about this. I would love to backup my rom so I can get it back in case something goes wrong.

denyson234 said:
I need to figure out how to backup roms? I install rom manager but when I was backing up it hang on the linux.ex2 file. I think thats because I have the one click lag fix in place. I need to read more about this. I would love to backup my rom so I can get it back in case something goes wrong.
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+1 to what tructo said about the factory backup. You need to have had a nandroid backup already in place to do that.
Make sure you've got the latest ClockworkMod in place and also click on "Problems?" at the bottom of ROM Manager to get the latest BusyBox then try and do a ROM Backup.
As for being able to root 2.2, I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem =)
~SB

Thanks guys this is a great resource.

Do you guys think that the battery life is so short because of the one click lag fix? After 8 hours I'm down to 15% battery.

My brother used odin to back to stock and he still did not get the JI6 ota update yet and it was supposed to be rolled out until October 31.

denyson234 said:
Do you guys think that the battery life is so short because of the one click lag fix? After 8 hours I'm down to 15% battery.
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No the battery drain is not because of the oclf. The problem is from the update ji6
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hitman818 said:
My brother used odin to back to stock and he still did not get the JI6 ota update yet and it was supposed to be rolled out until October 31.
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What ur brother need to do is get mini kies and update it manualy. It really simple.
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denyson234 said:
Do you guys think that the battery life is so short because of the one click lag fix? After 8 hours I'm down to 15% battery.
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i thought about this too.. because before OCLF was available for J16, my battery was even better. now that i have the lag fix.. i cant seem to make the battery last over 20 hours.. tops is 18 hours only sometimes just 14 or 15.. ughh
but im not sure though, it's probably coz i have my screen brightness at 20%??
just wanted to enjoy the screen, it wouldn't be the same experience if it was completely dimmed out.. LOL

smashpunks said:
dont worry about 2.2. Were never getting it
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This is the first time I would have to agree with smashpunks. We will get Froyo 2.2, when everyone else is already running Gingerbread 2.3.
Samsung truly provided they can't be depended upon.
What was it that the ever so eloquent Bush was trying to say?
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. NO MORE Samsung products for me. Well okay maybe I'll take a sneak peak at the Samsung Galaxy S2/Nexus 2.

Hey Denuding! How did u so quickly learn how to root and get rid of the bloatware? I've had my vibrant for two months and the only thing I knew was installing launcher pro. And do u know if u can remove touchwiz? And make it go to stock android look. I'm a complete nub and I don't yet understand all the terms like ota, rom, flash, kernal and stuff like that. Can u help me out? Thanks!
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I suppose if froyo comes out we can get it with kies mini to right?

smashpunks said:
dont worry about 2.2. Were never getting it
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Starting to think that a well. Even if we get it, they'll be 4 or 5 months behind htc and motorola. Too late and really it's unacceptable.

[Q] Froyo DK28 is a fake?! >=(

blogs.computerworld.com/17481/sprint_epic_4g_froyo
sorry i cant post it as a link correctly...im a newb
its not really a fake but it's not the finished version....i cant even get it to update...i get an error 7

Wow! Do some research and read.
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Boy... you weren't kidding about being a noob...
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Boy... you weren't kidding about being a noob...
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LOL.........

okay...we already knew this was true, but i have a question.
When the real froyo comes out, will we have to flash back to the DI18 stock w/ Odin or will we be able to update the manual way like we did for this "test"? (I know it wouldn't show up in the system updates notification)

Since ur probably gonna root and load a custom rom anyway, pretty sure u can just wait for the rom packages to be updated and go straight from dk28
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Zeinzu said:
Since ur probably gonna root and load a custom rom anyway, pretty sure u can just wait for the rom packages to be updated and go straight from dk28
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Yea, but doing that will inevitably lead to problems. The best way to do it is to return to DI18 and let Android update you the normal way, then root, then install whatever rom you want. If DK28 has taught us anything, its that trying to take the shortcut leads to non functional GPS and other problems.

Which means we'll probably be getting the final build of froyo in a few months judging by the current rate of progress. SOOOOOOO tired of waiting.

I checked the Sprint forums.
One of the admin suggests that the official update will be released within 3 weeks at the least, unless there's problems. Which...there will be -_-

Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update?

Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update on 21st? If so, how do i get back to root? Sorry for newb question.

First u probably won't get the ota cuz u are rooted ......u need to odin back to di18 stock for u to get the update... or wait a lil longer to have one of ur devs. Cook some rom ready for our root phones... personally I won't go back to di18 ... but if our devs told us (which I don't think we need to) to do it.. then ill be happy to do it...
And to get root back from 2.2 do the same method u did fro 2.1
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Is the OP on 2.2? I'm still on DI18, and it has been fine for me. I rooted, but that's it. Would I still get the OTA?

It was my understanding that you could get the OTA update while rooted, as long as it wasn't a custom ROM. Someone chime in?

Way to NOT search people, I mean seriously....
But anyway like the last half a dozen threads asking THIS EXACT SAME QUESTION, you cannot OTA unless you are on a stock rom with the stock recovery, if you don't want to revert then wait less than a day and it will be in flashable .zip form.

You should be able to get the OTA if you're rooted on di18 and still have stock recovery. The update will most likely break your root, though. All you will have to do to get root back is run the one-click.

Yes
yonglee09 said:
Would i lose root after 2.2 froyo ota update on 21st? If so, how do i get back to root? Sorry for newb question.
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worldwidepmp said:
It was my understanding that you could get the OTA update while rooted, as long as it wasn't a custom ROM. Someone chime in?
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Correct you will lose root but will get the update. You have to lose any roms also clockwork I think. Not positive so maybe someone else can comment on that.
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Nevermind.

Question: I used one click root, and it deleted the asphalt demo. Using root explorer, I reinstalled the stock app, but it gave me a notice that asphalt was still in the system apps. I know you need to have all the stock apps when updating, so will I have any problems?
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b3nny said:
Question: I used one click root, and it deleted the asphalt demo. Using root explorer, I reinstalled the stock app, but it gave me a notice that asphalt was still in the system apps. I know you need to have all the stock apps when updating, so will I have any problems?
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Just odin eb13 when it comes.
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Ya, as other users have said, 2.2 is stock so it should ova update but remove your root (was in thesame situation with my mytouch and 2.2). Of course just superoneclick after you update and you're good to go

Thanks for the question and REAL ANSWERS

The Froyo OTA and you what you need to know..

OK I will put this out there for everyone so we don't have a million threads going on this subject.
1 If your on DI18 stock and rooted with a simple root method you will get the OTA, you will lose root.Also having CWM installed will not break the OTA but you will lose CWM due to the stock recovery being flashed.
2 If your on a DI18 rom that you have flashed with CWM you will get the OTA but it will fail due to the rom not being stock the OTA zip will check for this and if your not on the stock rom the OTA will fail to install.
3 If you have a stock rom with any bloatware removed the OTA will also fail to install the OTA zip file will check your system to make sure its stock.
4 If you running a leaked Froyo build like DK28 or DK17 or any rom made from those leaks you will probably not get the OTA notification at all you will have to reflash back to stock DI18 to get the OTA.
The best thing to do if your running a rom is to wait on someone to make a flashable zip to convert from DI18 to EB13 or a zip to flash from a DK28 rom to EB13 it might take a day or two to get it converted but it will happen after all this time waiting for it another day or two shouldn't kill anyone.

I have stock DI18, rooted, and do have CWM installed (but never ever flashed any ROMs at all), will I be able to OTA? Sorry I'm still new at this.

Good idea to post this. I doubt it will prevent the morons from creating new threads though, there are already 3 or 4 scattered about on this board. Should probably throw something in there about being able to d/l it over Wifi as I've seen that one asked a lot recently, too.

Will I still be able to play angry birds?

dannyniceboy said:
Will I still be able to play angry birds?
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No I am afraid this will break angry birds sorry.

adelmundo said:
I have stock DI18, rooted, and do have CWM installed (but never ever flashed any ROMs at all), will I be able to OTA? Sorry I'm still new at this.
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If you have CWM installed it will be overwritten by the stock recovery during the flash.

skeeterslint said:
No I am afraid this will break angry birds sorry.
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nooo, I'm gonna suffer from angry birds withdrawl.
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Never update..... stay on di18. Lol
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nooo, I'm gonna suffer from angry birds withdrawl.
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Whats Froyo?
Sorry, had to do it
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I have stock DI18 with root, but I have deleted some of the sprint bloatware, what does that mean for me as far as OTA update, will I still recieve it or will I have to do a song and dance to get it. Any advice would be helpful

skeeterslint said:
OK I will put this out there for everyone so we don't have a million threads going on this subject.
1 If your on DI18 stock and rooted with a simple root method you will get the OTA, you will lose root.Also having CWM installed will not break the OTA but you will lose CWM due to the stock recovery being flashed.
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So my question is, I have stock DI18 (Odined back from dk28 last night) and rooted using oneclick root with CWM 2.5.whatever(not CWM3). I have read that if you are rooted and want to receive the OTA update you must not have deleted any stock applications. Oneclick root deleted the stupid asphalt 5 game demo and I am wondering if this is considered a stock app that may affect the result of downloading the update.
edit: just saw the post above mine after i finished writing this one!

jspsuperman said:
I have stock DI18 with root, but I have deleted some of the sprint bloatware, what does that mean for me as far as OTA update, will I still recieve it or will I have to do a song and dance to get it. Any advice would be helpful
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Did you read the OP or just read the title and start mashing the keyboard with your face? I can understand missing things in the 1000 page threads, but man it's only one page. Use your good eye!
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3 If you have a stock rom with any bloatware removed the OTA will also fail to install the OTA zip file will check your system to make sure its stock.
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djbacon06 said:
So my question is, I have stock DI18 (Odined back from dk28 last night) and rooted using oneclick root with CWM 2.5.whatever(not CWM3). I have read that if you are rooted and want to receive the OTA update you must not have deleted any stock applications. Oneclick root deleted the stupid asphalt 5 game demo and I am wondering if this is considered a stock app that may affect the result of downloading the update.
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+1 ^^^
Seems to be a conflict of criteria...is asphalt demo not considered a "stock" app? If it is, then by the OPs criteria even havin root would break the OTA since one-click removes asphalt...
A little clarification please?
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I think the main point is everyone should just wait until a cooked up rom is released....who cares if you get the OTA? Ultimately, aren't you just going to put a custom rom/kernel on your phone anyway?
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Demianwulf said:
I think the main point is everyone should just wait until a cooked up rom is released....who cares if you get the OTA? Ultimately, aren't you just going to put a custom rom/kernel on your phone anyway?
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I'm gonna say this one more time. SOME of us just want to have the littlest, simple satisfaction of receiving the cool little feature of an Over-The-Air upgrade. Because really, how many times does it happen? Its like I want to go outside when there's a comet passing by. Yes, I could just pop in a DVD about comets with nice high-def imagery and commentary by Morgan Freeman, but I didn't actlly DO it.
So do not deny nor judge this opportunity for us. If you cant , then don't post here. The thread isn't titled "why the hell would you retards do an ota just wait for some warezzzzzzzzz! Lolzzzzzzzz!" So contribute if you can, otherwise don't.
Plus....SOME of us have been on a 2006 winmo powered brick for the past 5 years and we got to miss out on this fancy little thing called a firmware upgrade...over the air! OVER THE AIR!
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What should someone do to prepare for the OTA
Well as someone said above, not every one has gone through a OTA update (I came to the EPIC from a true PALM when the software was really worth something) and some guidance may keep us from having major problems.
The only thing I could think of was to backup my EPIC. I used MyBackup Pro and backup to both my card and online. Anything else I should do????
George

Thanks for the detailed informed post. We need more like them.

I figure this is the best place to ask this.
I am stock and rooted with one click. I am not running any custom roms. Will there be a stock/rooted release that I can dl from this site or am I going to need to odin back to complete stock and take the OTA update. The majority of what I have been reading is to let your rom maker create a new one. Since I don't want a custom Rom yet, will I be able to get the stock/rooted update.
Thanks!

bgreiwe said:
I figure this is the best place to ask this.
I am stock and rooted with one click. I am not running any custom roms. Will there be a stock/rooted release that I can dl from this site or am I going to need to odin back to complete stock and take the OTA update. The majority of what I have been reading is to let your rom maker create a new one. Since I don't want a custom Rom yet, will I be able to get the stock/rooted update.
Thanks!
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After the OTA starts going out there will be one up on this site pre-rooted and complete stock within like 5 hours.

Awesome... that waswhat I wanted to hear. I will try out roms eventually butwant to see stock first.

Bloatware

Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?

Chris1051 said:
Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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You can install custom ROMs that basically mirror the stock ROM but it has bloatware removed. Just look carefully.

The sticky at the top of the forum links to a lot of FAQ's like this one
In particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Incredible/Guides&Tutorials#Removing_Bloat
Even easier, you can use Titanium Backup to do it. Or Root Explorer. Or pretty much any app that can write to the system partition with SU access.

Oh and sorry I am using tapatalk and couldn't find the search feature to reply in thread about bloatware. Accept my apology.

Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.

BrettApple said:
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
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This is the easiest way IMHO.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.

Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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It's almost impossible to brick, it's become so easy to flash roms, root, etc.

Just factory reset if you want to go back. Kinda the point of flashing is to get the latest greatest before it is released. Oh, all all those goodies I am sure they will omit.
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Chris1051 said:
Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
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The devs here are beating the piss out of VZW OTA's. Just flash a custom 2.3 ROM.
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