DVP - 6th of january in UK according to WMpowerusers - Venue Pro General

This link tells me it's very near!
http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-p...the-uk-on-the-6th-january-2010/#idc-container

Didn't realise it supported 3G T-Mobile USA roaming. That is definitely another point in its favour over the Samsung. This has put my decision making process back to square one...

Got a voicemail from Orange UK today - probably the upgrades team. "After investigations" they have no release date for the Venue Pro. It could either be in testing (e.g.: some Orange engineers are unnecssarily fiddling about with the phone/software/painting an Orange logo on it) or it may not be released at all.
Probably the former.

Hmm, I was just wondering about sniffing around the net if there would be any news about a european release...
Fingers crossed for some good news... Maybe I'll need to twitter Dellcares or Lionel...

Anybody else order the DVP from the Dell.co.uk website?
I put my order in on 2/3/2011. Expected delivery date is 10/3/2011.
Went back to check the website just now to see if the prices changed (they had free delivery until 2/3/2011... now that its 3/3/2011, I wondered if anything new was offered), and although the DVP product site is there, you can't get any further when you choose "Select this"... almost like its disappeared!... Ominous signs?
I'm taking a huge risk with the DVP, especially with the crashing issues I hear about. But we'll see. I've never seen the phone in real life, but most review websites says its the best Windows Phone device out (if it works 100% of the time). Either way, I checked the cancellation policy and Dell UK give 7 working days for a full refund. We'll see how it goes.
There simply isn't any other WP7 phone out there that I like in the UK. I would have gone with the Omnia 7, but with 8GB it's just too small. Ideally I would have chosen a Samsung Focus, but its not offered here.
One bonus with the DVP in the UK is it costs only £5 to get another full year warranty. Another omninous sign?! who knows .

GeneNZ said:
Anybody else order the DVP from the Dell.co.uk website?
I put my order in on 2/3/2011. Expected delivery date is 10/3/2011.
Went back to check the website just now to see if the prices changed (they had free delivery until 2/3/2011... now that its 3/3/2011, I wondered if anything new was offered), and although the DVP product site is there, you can't get any further when you choose "Select this"... almost like its disappeared!... Ominous signs?
I'm taking a huge risk with the DVP, especially with the crashing issues I hear about. But we'll see. I've never seen the phone in real life, but most review websites says its the best Windows Phone device out (if it works 100% of the time). Either way, I checked the cancellation policy and Dell UK give 7 working days for a full refund. We'll see how it goes.
There simply isn't any other WP7 phone out there that I like in the UK. I would have gone with the Omnia 7, but with 8GB it's just too small. Ideally I would have chosen a Samsung Focus, but its not offered here.
One bonus with the DVP in the UK is it costs only £5 to get another full year warranty. Another omninous sign?! who knows .
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Have you take a look at the new HTC 7 Pro? I heard from a review that it has the best QWERTY Keyboard so far... Might wanna check it out. If not, Why not call Dell and check up on your Order.

To be honest I've been waiting for the DVP for a while.
I know I want WP7, but the current range of devices are pretty limited really. Other than the DVP, all the rest of pretty 'normal' I suppose.
I'm waiting it out, it only has been a few days yet. I'll update the board with my findings.

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Available in US, in volume when

Anyone know the latest release date for volume availability in the US?
I see that Amazon has removed their price of $850 and it now just asks if you would like to be emailed upon availability. I thought the date was 7/31 but I'm starting to wonder if this is slipping. Funny that CompUSA had some for web orders for awhile but are now out. Makes me wonder what their source was, and if it was not really intended for US sales, though the lack of the inner camera lense in the picture would seem to indicate it was. What's the scoop?
Strangely enough, the HTC America site has a link to a 61.4Mb download, RUU_Athena_HTC_US_2.19.453.4_105_1.47.51.00_Ship.exe that appears to be a ROM upgrade for the x7501, but no date of release for the device itself other than "this summer".
Just received my alert from Amazon
I just received the alert the Amazon and ordered one up for $850. Amazon states: "Estimated ship date for this item: August 10, 2007 - August 20, 2007."
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OQGG6M/sr=53-1/qid=1185466177/ref=tr_342721/105-8347715-6868436
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I just received the alert the Amazon and ordered one up for $850. Amazon states: "Estimated ship date for this item: August 10, 2007 - August 20, 2007."
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OQGG6M/sr=53-1/qid=1185466177/ref=tr_342721/105-8347715-6868436
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Also, Tref, I neglected to mention that 2 or 3 days ago I hit CompUsa's web site and saw that the 7501 was, in fact, available for pickup at a local store (Jacksonville, Florida.) As I was driving down to pick it up I received a call from a CompUsa rep stating that they only had a couple in stock and that these were open-box demonstration units and he'd have to locate one at another store and have it shipped here. I said, "get it." Meanwhile, I did a little reading up on the net and came across some posts someplace mentioning that the units at CompUsa were not meant to be for-sale units but, rather, for-show units and some had a "test only - not for resale" (or some such wording) splash screen. The rep, Scott, called me back yesterday and said he'd located one and could have it shipped, but I told him what I'd come across and nixxed the order and said I'd wait for Amazon, and today I have the payoff.
They have been available at Compusa and Amazon for several weeks now, just in very limited amounts.
The issue with the Compusa "test units" isn't really an issue. It's the same as the regular unit and that latest ROM update fixes the intro screen. You should have just grabbed the one from the store. I drove an hour and half out of town to get the last one from the Compusa in Tucson AZ yesterday and even before the update it was fine.
I found 3-5 places in the US for the Black X7500, over a month ago, ready
to ship.. Off the top of my head 1 was in Miami, 1 in Detroit, 1 in Chicago.
There out there in Volumne now. So why are you waiting?
For me personally, I'm waiting to decide between the x7501 and the Nokia E90. I keep flip-flopping due to reports of this or that issue with each device. I have the luxury of doing this because neither is yet available to me as a US model.
I've had many, many PDA/Handheld/Phones of all sorts and I'm not as excited as I once was to be converting all of my PIM data yet again, this time from WM5 to Symbian or something else. But the Advantage is large, and I'm trying to decide if it is essentially too large for my use. If I take the WM plunge again it will be for the x7501, or another device altogether, be that an E90, an iMate Ultimate, or some other such thing, but not an x7500. Perhaps the HTC Omni if I can wait that long.
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For me personally, I'm waiting to decide between the x7501 and the Nokia E90. I keep flip-flopping due to reports of this or that issue with each device. I have the luxury of doing this because neither is yet available to me as a US model.
I've had many, many PDA/Handheld/Phones of all sorts and I'm not as excited as I once was to be converting all of my PIM data yet again, this time from WM5 to Symbian or something else. But the Advantage is large, and I'm trying to decide if it is essentially too large for my use. If I take the WM plunge again it will be for the x7501, or another device altogether, be that an E90, an iMate Ultimate, or some other such thing, but not an x7500. Perhaps the HTC Omni if I can wait that long.
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I am assuming you said not X7500 because of the price, correct? Other than that I can't see why you would want X7501 over X7500.
Don't need the front camera, and I'd like to buy it from a brick and mortar if possible so it can be returned more easily if necessary. Also I'd like WM6 installed at the factory. Plus, and I could be wrong about this, if there is any possibility of getting one with a flash drive installed instead of the microdrive I figure the 7501 would be the likely device to have it. And of course the price.
I ordered mine from Amazon as soon as I found out about it on their site (early July?). It's due to ship between August 1st and August 15th. I noticed about 3 days later that they changed the status on their site from order to notify me when it's available. I called Amazon and they said that they'd already sold all they had from their first distributor (glad to see it's popular!) and this change was for another distributor. I had them auto notify. I just received notification a couple of days ago, so my guess is that they will be in stock in volume around the 1st of August.
I can't wait to get mine!
If you are close to a CompUSA, you can check local store availability online.
Keith
Thanks, but the closest is about 4.5 hours away.
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Also, Tref, I neglected to mention that 2 or 3 days ago I hit CompUsa's web site and saw that the 7501 was, in fact, available for pickup at a local store (Jacksonville, Florida.) As I was driving down to pick it up I received a call from a CompUsa rep stating that they only had a couple in stock and that these were open-box demonstration units and he'd have to locate one at another store and have it shipped here. I said, "get it." Meanwhile, I did a little reading up on the net and came across some posts someplace mentioning that the units at CompUsa were not meant to be for-sale units but, rather, for-show units and some had a "test only - not for resale" (or some such wording) splash screen. The rep, Scott, called me back yesterday and said he'd located one and could have it shipped, but I told him what I'd come across and nixxed the order and said I'd wait for Amazon, and today I have the payoff.
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Infraded said:
They have been available at Compusa and Amazon for several weeks now, just in very limited amounts.
The issue with the Compusa "test units" isn't really an issue. It's the same as the regular unit and that latest ROM update fixes the intro screen. You should have just grabbed the one from the store. I drove an hour and half out of town to get the last one from the Compusa in Tucson AZ yesterday and even before the update it was fine.
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How right you turned out to be, Infraded. I just received the following email from Amazon:
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Greetings from Amazon.com.
We're writing about your recent purchase of an HTC Advantage 7501 purchased from Amazon.com. We've learned that some units were shipped out with pre-production software. If you received an HTC Advantage from Amazon.com and are experiencing any problems or errors, please be sure to upgrade to the latest firmware/software to avoid issues.
The download URL and instructions can be found on the right side of the following page:
http://www.america.htc.com/products/advantage7501/default.html
We hope this information is helpful. Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.
Sincerely,
Customer Service
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Being an extreme newb to these devices, I just wanted everything done properly at the factory before I started tinkering. Well, 'live and learn' says I. Or is it, 'sometimes you just can't win'?
Jefson, I got the same email, but mine hasn't even shipped yet.
Since the email says "some units" have the pre-production rom, you should check your rom version first, as you may not have the earlier version, so may not need the upgrade.
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Jefson, I got the same email, but mine hasn't even shipped yet.
Since the email says "some units" have the pre-production rom, you should check your rom version first, as you may not have the earlier version, so may not need the upgrade.
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yvilla, I did purchase it but they haven't shipped it out. They gave me an estimated ship date of August 10, 2007 - August 20, 2007. Let's hope our batch comes properly setup and configured with all sofware included. If not, I don't believe it will be too difficult to mend. We'll hope for the best.
I read a news message yesterday stating that USA customs have forbidden to import handhelds with a Qualcomm chip inside it. Broadcom is stating that Qualcomm is using their pattents. So if you are waiting for an athena you can wait until it is released by customs. It contains a Qualcomm MSM6275 (quad-band GSM, UMTS 850/1900/2100 Mhz, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA) chip.
Thanks for the heads-up on that, QAN. Yes, a quick search of the online 'Wall Street Journal' site tells me something is afoot regarding "U.S. International Trade Commission following Qualcomm's patent fight with rival Broadcom Corp...", but I don't have time to get up on the matter right now. Thanks again for the pointer.

Vodafone UK recall?

Just been speaking to Vodafone to check my order status, as they were supposed to call when more stock was due yesterday. Been told by one of the managers that they were told late yesterday that they now have no future stock dates, as HTC were seeking to fix 'hardware issues' with the phone. She used the word recall when referring to existing Vodafone phones, and then mentioned the camera explicitly.
So for those of us with unfulfilled orders the wait continues.
And for those whose phones see the world with a pink hue, a hint of things to come? Anyone else spoken to Voda in the last 24 hrs?
I thought the pink hue was a software issue, or at last that is what HTC were reported to have said a few days back and they said they would be releasing a fix. If it is a hardware issue I wonder if the same recall is going to apply to HD2s from other networks, like O2 for example? And if those already sold are going to be swapped?
I'm not too fussed anyway as the hue on mine is barely noticeable, but I have seen photos from some where it's frankly terrible. Despite the quality of a camera on a phone being fairly low on my list of important features, if I owned one of those I would be interested in a swap.
I assume the Vodafone dont know what is really happening, I dont think HTC would lie about this huge issue.
After a week of tests on my handset that I sent to HTC repairs. HTC are returning it back to me without them doing anything apart from installing logging software that identifies the sms issue.
It has been explained to me several times that it [camera] is a software issue that can only be fixed with a patch that will be released as soon as they can, they are working on it.
I had a call from Voda yesterday (since I emailed a complaint to the UK CEO, I get regular update calls lol) to say that the stock they were expecting hadn't turned up and that the next delivery *should* be 2nd December
Edit: got another call this afternoon from the nice girl who is keeping an eye on my order to inform me that they may get some earlier than the 2nd, she's going to call me back on Monday.
I have a HD2 from Vodafone and mine is ok ok no problems with the camera. Got it last week
Only yesterday, I was told 11th December by a Vodafone rep, middle of next week by a T-Mobile rep, and possibly monday by an O2 rep.
All of these companies were meant to give me a call as soon as the hansets came in. It turns out I've missed 1 delivery by T-Mobile, 2 by O2, and 3 by Vodafone even though I ordered with them some 3 weeks ago!!!
I also thought the camera was an issue that HTC are working on. If there was to be a recall t would be for all phones, as Vodafone ones aren't branded.
Damn this is turning out to be a hard phone to get.
I had put an order i with Voda Business and voda general public. The latter said it would be with me by Sat, i called on the Friday to confirm and was told that a small batch came in but wasn't available to their department therefore wasn't available for me and they projected the next batch would be in around the 11th of Dec.
I then called back to make my feelings heard and was told that one would be with me by Monday and was already in transit. This it turns out was the phone i ordered through the business department which must have priority over regular customers.
I haven't heard anything regarding recalls etc but haven't spoken to them since Friday, so i'm really hoping it will be here on Monday. If not i won't be happy!!!!
Just to confirm the 11 december date. Vodafone UK informed me on 27/11 (which I had been previously told was the date the HD2 shipment where due into their warehouse) that this will not now be until 11/12.
However if there are hardware issues this may well drift into 2010.
I'd hazard a guess the delay is due to some of the bugs noted in this forum seen on the first shipped ROM.
As many people have said here - the average mobile consumer expects their device to just 'work' when it comes to the basics (calls, sms etc). Vodafone aren't doing their own ROM but instead taking what HTC have provided; this means bugs and all. Trouble is while the average WM user who has paid £500 from Expansys etc would come here to look to fix such bugs, the average Vodafone user would be on the phone / back to the Vodafone shop complaining that their phone is "rubbish, doesn't work, can't use it, refund please". I'd therefore guess this is why they are delaying accepting HTC shipments - until their own QA people are happy.
For the record - while I understand this view - I personally would MUCH prefer them to just send me a phone and I'll update it to later firmware when available. But that's just my personal preference! Guess such things are the price you pay when a high end tech gadget like the HD2 attempts to make it into the mainstream consumer market - you're never going to please everyone. On the one hand HTC should have probably done a bit better with their QA, on the other hand no doubt they were under pressure to release. Whichever way they could have jumped their would have been complainers!! I mean, the people on here complaining about basic bugs - would they have been happier if the phone was delayed until say March next year?! Maybe some would've been, but probably not most.
IMO HTC have to keep people on-board by providing updated ROMS / Hotfixes quickly - weeks not months.
Just my opinion..
How long do these hotfixes take to come? I mean, shouldn't some HTC programming team be able to fix all this in ONE DAY?? (*providing it is software problems of course).
I am stuck here with a faulty handset that O2 can't replace because they have no stock. I'm just wondering whether to ditch it and go with another manufacturer. Even if it was working perfectly (which I somehow doubt will happen) it's still a total nightmare typing on the virtual keyboard. I have to correct virtually every word I type and for a previously hardcore texter, I have actually come to loathe texting. It has become a chore!
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How long do these hotfixes take to come? I mean, shouldn't some HTC programming team be able to fix all this in ONE DAY?? (*providing it is software problems of course).
I am stuck here with a faulty handset that O2 can't replace because they have no stock. I'm just wondering whether to ditch it and go with another manufacturer. Even if it was working perfectly (which I somehow doubt will happen) it's still a total nightmare typing on the virtual keyboard. I have to correct virtually every word I type and for a previously hardcore texter, I have actually come to loathe texting. It has become a chore!
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Sounds like the HD2 isn't for you re. txt'ing. I felt similar around 2 yrs ago (in that I hated touch screen phones for txt'ing) but have since come round. Each to their own.
Re. the hotfixes etc, sadly turning them around in a single day just isn't realistic. Maybe on a home-brew app, but it is with these sorts of timelines which lead to the mistakes in the first place. I'd say you'd be looking at a turnaround time of 2 weeks MINIMUM from bug identification to public release, most probably longer. While it certainly isn't ideal I'd be happy if they turned things round in <1 month.
I know, I know, not ideal the bugs are there in the first place, but such is life!
hmm... I can undestand what youre saying and I can agree in some of it. But if it is a hardware error with the camera, is dosen´t fit under the decription "bug" in my opinion
As to whriting on the HD2 I totally disagree, it´s so nice and i whrite very fast on it
madindehead said:
I also thought the camera was an issue that HTC are working on. If there was to be a recall t would be for all phones, as Vodafone ones aren't branded.
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Hi Madindehead - is there a way of checking my vodafone internet usage? Cant seem to find it online on my account page?! I know there is a fair usage policy of 500MB but when I checked my phone this morning the notification tab stated I had been connected to the HSDPA network for 6 hours?! am I right in thinking this is just the connection being kept alive?
Also is there any software out there that can monitor my 3G connection?
I wouldn't worry too much about the FUP to be honest, I don't know anyone who got told off for going over. Plus I think that if everybody tries to stay below it they'll never change it, on the other hand if the majority of people goes over it they might "officially" raise it.
Got mine this morning, woot. Would have had it yesterday but Royal Mail suck...
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Just to confirm the 11 december date. Vodafone UK informed me on 27/11 (which I had been previously told was the date the HD2 shipment where due into their warehouse) that this will not now be until 11/12.
However if there are hardware issues this may well drift into 2010.
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they had a huge batch in on Monday 30th November
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they had a huge batch in on Monday 30th November
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Correct, I ordered mine on-line last night and have an RM tracking number for it to be delivered tomorrow morning
I got mine from Vodafone yesterday, not branded in anyway at all.
My mate got his too from Vodafone on Monday.
Problems I have so far
1. Can't send SMS messages at all!
2. Bluetooth wont switch on
No issue with the camera so far, battery life not too bad.
Can't get any twitter or facebook updates to notify me when screen locked, but then I havent read the manual!!
Lovely phone though
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Correct, I ordered mine on-line last night and have an RM tracking number for it to be delivered tomorrow morning
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You're lucky then! I've ordered through Vodafone business, and they can't access the online stock (why not?) and won't get their own stock until 14th December.
Frustrating.

Looks like you can now buy the DVP in the UK

Expansys seem to have the DVP on sale. Their expected shipment is 1 working day and they now take Paypal payments, which they do only when they have stock.
http://www.expansys.com/dell-venue-pro-windows-phone-7-smartphone-qwerty-205052/
That's weird, when I spoke to a Dell customer service guy he said they weren't going to sell it unlocked first. Should've known that he didn't know what he was talkin' about.
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Expansys seem to have the DVP on sale. Their expected shipment is 1 working day and they now take Paypal payments, which they do only when they have stock.
http://www.expansys.com/dell-venue-pro-windows-phone-7-smartphone-qwerty-205052/
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it says estimated 1 day. they have not got stock and i doubt they will have stock tomorrow as dells own uk site does not list it.
ps. when i pre-ordered one from them in November they tock my money straight away and when i phoned them up about it they say it was a mistak and i had to wait 10 days to get my money back.
im going to wait till play.com or dell.co.uk have they in stock at i dont trust expansys ot clove.
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it says estimated 1 day. they have not got stock and i doubt they will have stock tomorrow as dells own uk site does not list it.
ps. when i pre-ordered one from them in November they tock my money straight away and when i phoned them up about it they say it was a mistak and i had to wait 10 days to get my money back.
im going to wait till play.com or dell.co.uk have they in stock at i dont trust expansys ot clove.
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In November I wanted to preorder and pay via Paypal and their rep told me the Paypal option wasn't for preoders and would only appear when they actually had stock. So maybe you can actually buy from them now... To be fair I was fed up and got the Omnia 7 but that could be of interest to some people.
Oh by the way, the last time I spoke to Dell UK they had no plans for selling the phone themselves.
Clove says mid-February
This phone's launch has really been a joke, they're launching it in the middle of MWC when it might get obsolete.
http://www.clove.co.uk/dell-venue-pro
I had emailed Clove only three days ago to ask when the phone was in stock and they said it was expected early this week. The situation is a complete farce.
Surprised you guys are still looking to get this phone considering all the issues and that you can get other devices in the UK that can be unlocked for any carrier.
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Clove says mid-February
This phone's launch has really been a joke, they're launching it in the middle of MWC when it might get obsolete.
http://www.clove.co.uk/dell-venue-pro
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clove said the 6th january and then changed it to week starting the 10th. the reason they do these dates is so you pre-order from them thinking you are going to get it earlier then if you do it with other sites but once you pre-order they tell you there is a delay and hope you dont cancel (clove had it on the 6th when every over site had the 11th).
exspansy tock my money from my debit card, i did not try the paypal option.
tomorrow is the 11th and play.com and exspansy should say in stock but bet they wont and then will delay it again.
as far as dell.co.uk selling it. i was under the assumtion that dell sells all there products from their website and would sell the DVP too like they have been selling the streak. i prefer to buy from play.com but they only listing the 8gb and i wont the 16gb model.
tomorrow i will see if any of them have it but at this rate i may have to look at getting another phone. with the mobile show in early feb there probably be a load of new handsets.
UPDATE: clove and exspansy have delayed it till mid feb. i guess i will have to see if any new handsets get released at the mobile show that takes my fancy, if not it will be arround mid feb by that point anyway.
i reckon they are waiting for the os update which will fix a lot of the current issues (crashes etc).
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Surprised you guys are still looking to get this phone considering all the issues and that you can get other devices in the UK that can be unlocked for any carrier.
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i always get my phone sim free so i can get any handset but the hd7 and omina 7 i have seen and tried and i dont like the designs.
Given what's been happenning to our friends in the US I won't be rushing to get it !
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...i reckon they are waiting for the os update which will fix a lot of the current issues (crashes etc).
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The O/S is rock stable ... either that or Samsung have worked miracles! My Omnia 7 has crashed twice since i purchased it and I got it on release day. (To be fair, the ONLY thing that has crashed on it has been the marketplace app)
Its far more likely that Dell have screwed up the firmware or chip/mobo integration somehow.
Either way, i'm now out of the market for one of these. Sadly, its the only 4"+ device with a keyboard.... who nows.... maybe Feb will cure my problem?
Clove has been told today there will be no stock until 'mid february at the earliest' for 'microsoft issue on mms settings'. Given every other manufacturer has phones in europe with working mms capability, I cannot see how only dell needs an one month worth wp7 fix. Assume they have multiple issues and don't have a clue about when they will be able to fix them all.
Now, I'm not sure who, between me still waiting for this phone and Dell, needs more urgently a reality check.
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i always get my phone sim free so i can get any handset but the hd7 and omina 7 i have seen and tried and i dont like the designs.
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To be fair, once you start using one daily you just see it as a Windows Phone and forget a bit about the design. Sure the DVP has something special but unless you really need a keyboard you can do worse than the HD7 and Omnia 7.
What I will probably miss the most about the DVP is the Gorilla Glass but I'm more than happy with the Omnia 7.
goodbye dell
it has been a nice time waiting for u to fix those issues but i guess enough is enough
crawling back to htc via the 7 pro
I think Expansys and Clove literally just pull these release dates out of thin air (in the same way that Amazon and Play basically invent release dates for some videogames and dvds, etc., even when they haven't been announced yet). They're clearly not in any sort of serious contact with Dell if, only one day before the phones are due to go on sale, they 'find out' that their delivery isn't going to arrive.
I too am going to have to consider the HTC Pro 7 now, much as I don't want to buy another HTC phone. Sigh...
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To be fair, once you start using one daily you just see it as a Windows Phone and forget a bit about the design. Sure the DVP has something special but unless you really need a keyboard you can do worse than the HD7 and Omnia 7.
What I will probably miss the most about the DVP is the Gorilla Glass but I'm more than happy with the Omnia 7.
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i heard somewhere that the omnia 7 does not gorilla glass but it is not listed. not sure if this is true.
im going to wait till the mobile show in feb and then decide which phone to get.
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The O/S is rock stable ... either that or Samsung have worked miracles! My Omnia 7 has crashed twice since i purchased it and I got it on release day. (To be fair, the ONLY thing that has crashed on it has been the marketplace app)
Its far more likely that Dell have screwed up the firmware or chip/mobo integration somehow.
Either way, i'm now out of the market for one of these. Sadly, its the only 4"+ device with a keyboard.... who nows.... maybe Feb will cure my problem?
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i have a feeling that the way dell has set up the dvp is slightly different than how overs have done and as they are very close to microsoft i this microsoft was fix some things that did not work with the way they made the handset.
i could be wrong but seems strange that the release has been put back to mid feb when the os update is to be released.
I'm stil waiting. Mabye its better to solve the problems. Or els the DVP is going to be a new iphone . But what about the OS update how as Microshoft annouced for april? New languages? Like dutch. We wil see
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/dell-venue-pro-delayed-in-the-uk-again-due-to-mms
Delayed again till mid-February, what a joke.
I am also waiting for this to happen so Dell can finally feel comfortable in providing an unlock code.

Phone ordered, has been delayed twice!?!

I order my unactivated AT&T 8GB model and its been delayed twice already, and no one at dell is helpful, they just try to get me off the phone and don't have any actual reason besides saying its delayed, and then in one spot it says "in production" and in another spot it says "in pre production" I ordered it on 8/28 with next day delivery?! and now its saying shipping date for the phone is 9/21 when you try to make a new order, so I'm wondering how I could even have mine before that even though it says delivery date: 9/13 (updated) from the 9/4 it was originally.
I also kept asking them if maybe the delay was from a mango software update but the non English speaking reps didn't even know what that was and had no idea. Do we have any solid evidence that maybe this is the case and this is why its taking so long?
Welcome to perils of purchasing a DVP. Guess Dell hasn't improved much since its launch.
evilp8ntballer7 said:
I order my unactivated AT&T 8GB model and its been delayed twice already, and no one at dell is helpful, they just try to get me off the phone and don't have any actual reason besides saying its delayed, and then in one spot it says "in production" and in another spot it says "in pre production" I ordered it on 8/28 with next day delivery?! and now its saying shipping date for the phone is 9/21 when you try to make a new order, so I'm wondering how I could even have mine before that even though it says delivery date: 9/13 (updated) from the 9/4 it was originally.
I also kept asking them if maybe the delay was from a mango software update but the non English speaking reps didn't even know what that was and had no idea. Do we have any solid evidence that maybe this is the case and this is why its taking so long?
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I had mine delayed for a month right before the new firmware came out...
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Welcome to perils of purchasing a DVP. Guess Dell hasn't improved much since its launch.
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Indeed. Same thing when I bought my DVP too - delayed twice with no explanation. Although everyone was quite polite, trying to get progress information out of Dell was like trying to get blood out of a stone
Took over a month to arrive...
Part of the problem is that no one wants to help, they swear it will be shipped on a certain date and it isnt, and I have not spoke with one AMERAICAN person on the phone and its annoying, I tell them to speak clearly but they do not, seriously dell has the worst tech support or phone reps ever. Half of them only know how to do 1 thing and 1 thing only, I bet half of them at "Dell Mobility" support havent even seen the phone and dont even know what OS it runs unless its somehow in the order.
I got mine next day I was actually surprised.
That's weird. I ordered mine on Sunday, and it's being delivered tomorrow. Mine is T-Mobile, though. I dunno if that matters.
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it does say tmobile verisons are shipping sooner but I dont see why any version should be delayed this long. I feel naked with only 1 phone right now :/
It is my understanding that phones may see delayed ship dates due to Mango being installed on them. I believe that Dell may be one of the first to supply Mango to existing hardware.
thats what I heard and thought but everytime I ask a dell rep either via an online chat or over the phone they have no idea what that means
I have 5 ATT ones that keep getting pushed back. They were ordered one at a time over a month.. but it looks like they are all coming on the 29th now.. hopefully.
Got a few t-mobile ones in that timeframe and they came in pretty fast.
oddly all the ATT phones showed up today. So much for dell holding them to put Mango on
hmmm... well mine still hasn't shipped, even a rep on twitter said she was gonna try to expedite it, but no change in order status, one place it says in production and the other says in pre production. But also the weird thing is, one their website all they have are unlocked versions now with att or tmobile bands. The Tmobile specific or ATT specific versions no longer exsist so I wonder whats gonna happen to mine that was att specific just unactivated full retail.
It's my understanding that the reason for the delay is due to DVP being shipped with Mango installed and since MS hasn't officially released Mango update yet, they are waiting so that it would coincide with the release date. Then again, it may all be just speculations.
Ya well no one seems to know 100% and now my order has yet again been delayed to the 16th, this is the 4th delay. Dell support is garbage I want everyone to know and avoid them don't give them any more business!
I ordered a replacement under warranty on the 2nd and they told they were backordred to the 16th and to call back then to have it actually shipped out. I'm thinking they are basically holding everything back for Mango, at least on the AT&T side.
That makes sense. Means you'll get the Mango firmware without having to wait for AT&T's notoriously-slow 'testing' process.
Wondering if Dell are not explaining the delays because they have a non-disclosure agreement with Microsoft about the Mango release date. Otherwise, you would think they would publicly announce that phones were being held back to a specific date for Mango.
well more and more things keep saying that mango will be this week but I'm so frustrated that my phones been delayed for pretty much weeks now, I don't want to keep waiting, I know its a good update but I can do it myself.
I'm not sure how relevant my experience is to this topic, but I did place an order today for a subsidized DVP through Dell moblity's phone line. I got a English as his first language rep who seemed pretty knowledgeable. First I wanted to know if the DVP was still being subsidized through AT&T since it was no longer showing online, he confirmed that it was still $0.99 with contract for AT&T and T-mobile. I then asked if there would be any delay on the shipping (siting that I read some folks online were having an issue). He explained that there was a firmware update(not mango) that both carriers needed to approve and AT&T took longer to approve it than t-mobile.
Needless to say, my order has been placed as of 1PM eastern 9/12 and the estimated arrival time is 9/15, hopefully just in time for Mango *fingerscrossed*.
I just tried to place an order for an 8 GB model and the rep advised me due to backorders, it wouldn't ship for approx. 10 days. I chose to back out since I have an order for a 32 GB that keeps getting delayed (but I'd rather wait for) that is currently slated to ship around the same time as this one would have been delayed.

UK Microsoft Lumia 950/950XL

Hi Guys,
Setting up dedicated UK thread for Lumia 950/950XL.
Mines on pre order. Just wanted to let you guys know about Amazon price being reduced from £529.99 (Price on UK Microsoft Store) to £469.99 for the 950XL and £449.99 (Price on UK Microsoft Store) to £419.99 for Lumia 950.
Shipping on UK Microsoft Store is set for 03/12 but Amazon are set to ship for 12/12. Amazon prices are the same as CarphoneWarehouse who have also reduced their prices compared to UK Microsoft Store.
There is an offer for UK purchases of the Lumia 950XL only - free display dock on purchases made from authorised sellers. Amazon and CarphoneWarehouse are included in the authorised sellers list. There is a catch though - it is only valid for purchases made between 20/11 and 31/01 whilst stocks last.
To get the free display dock, you need to have purchased within the dates above and on receipt of your phone, open the Lumia app that is on the phone as a pre installed app and sign in or create an account. The voucher code will be emailed to the registered email address where you will then be able to go to the UK Microsoft Store online and purchases the display dock. Enter the code at checkout and the price will adjust.
This forum is for pre-order discussion, discussion of any delays, discussion when the phones have been dispatched and received and discussion and general support throughout.
Please be nice to each other and don't attack anyone for something they have posted. We're all entitled to our own opinions.
Updates that are important will be added to this first post for ease of access.
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I'd go for Carphone rather than Amazon, since their repairs/returns are easier to access.
Microsoft are reducing their price by end of this week I've been told by an insider.
I've pre-ordered from cpw but on the 19th, does that mean i wont get dock station?
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Microsoft are reducing their price by end of this week I've been told by an insider.
I've pre-ordered from cpw but on the 19th, does that mean i wont get dock station?
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I believe it doesn't matter where you get the device from as long as you get it in the initial period you get the free dock, going to ask in cpw again to confirm though
http://www.windowscentral.com/how-redeem-your-free-display-dock-lumia-950-xl
You will actually qualify for the dock. Short version - I spoke to MS support and they assured me this will be valid for any order before the end date and you can ignore the "start date" of the promotion.
Long version: The support representative I spoke to basically said that the Nov 20 date was only the initial date that they thought the first units might ship through partners. The "order date" will infact be counted as the shipping date since it's only a pre-order at this point and the orders haven't actually been completed.
If anyone is interested in buying direct from Microsoft they will price match the official retailers. Refund will be issued once deceive delivered. You also get 30 days return policy and support for free.
also mobilephonesdirect have it in stock for next day delivery.
Ordered mine off amazon this morning, due for delivery tomorrow. Cant wait!
Got mine from my supplier last week. The 950XL. Loving it so far.(apart from BT issues)
Also got my order in for the free Continuum Dock.
Hey guys,
Just got mine this evening. It is an amazing device. One small issue. When I go into the app store, I want to sign in, so I can start downloading a few apps. When I click on the menu button at the top left and then click sign in at the bottom of the menu, it comes up and says choose account. Problem is, it doesnt list any accounts I can choose. How do I get around this?
Edit never mind, did a wipe and everything is now 100% This is soo much better than android!
Stephen said:
Hey guys,
Just got mine this evening. It is an amazing device. One small issue. When I go into the app store, I want to sign in, so I can start downloading a few apps. When I click on the menu button at the top left and then click sign in at the bottom of the menu, it comes up and says choose account. Problem is, it doesnt list any accounts I can choose. How do I get around this?
Edit never mind, did a wipe and everything is now 100% This is soo much better than android!
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Welcome to the Dark Side mate...!
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Welcome to the Dark Side mate...!
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Now I have had a day or so to play around with it, it is wicked cool! would be hard pushed to go back to android. Cant wait for full Cortana integration on my Windows 10 desktop. Will be very cool to be able to send text messages from my PC.
@LenAsh BTW curious mate, what phone are you actually running!
BTW curious mate, what phone are you actually running!
@Stephen
I use a Lumia 930 running WX 10586.29 Preview Build - lovely device, S/W a bit flakey. My "dirt" phone is a Blu Win HD LTE - £59 from Amazon UK and running W8.1 UP2 - know what - it's amazing for the money! Really good.
My Android is an LG G2 32 Gb (the EU version with more memory than the UK version) and it has been a really great phone for over 2 years now. It looks and performs like new. Don't use it much nowadays.... but still pleases me when I do.
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Now I have had a day or so to play around with it, it is wicked cool! would be hard pushed to go back to android. Cant wait for full Cortana integration on my Windows 10 desktop. Will be very cool to be able to send text messages from my PC.
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For info, available in the EU now...
For both phones, MS have pushed out a fairly significant OTA FIRMWARE update - don't get those often...
Details here.... Windows Central
Just got mine yesterday, coming from a G Note 3 the improvements are immense and some Apps are actually better than their Android equivalent (6tag, Outlook mail, Baconit to name a few). I'm converted back to MS, my last MS phone was the legendary HTC HD2, hopefully we can mod the 950 XL as much as we could the HD2.
Out of over 100 Apps the only real App I'm missing is my Sonos App , all my other smart home app's are just as good, Plex, Tado, Roku, Xbox. Can anyone advise a good Sonos App? currently using 'Smart Player'.
The camera is amazing for a smartphone, so is the screen quality and I really like the 'Hello' unlock just for the speed and handiness of it.
The only 'problem' I have with the device is as a IT Administrator who deals primarily with MS Networks, I'm surprised there's not many Apps compared to Android. I miss the likes of fing, JuiceSSH, Network Scanner, OpenConnect (though standard VPN does work), Spoofer, ADManager, and even some MS ones.... Thankfully the situation looks to be getting better as i've heard some Apps are in development or will be ported over. If that's too much then all we ask for is a PowerShell App MS!
I like 950xl. Anyone esle want to sell it?
Phonos is a fairly good Sonos app. Not as good as the official android one but probably the best you'll find at the moment.
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