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Hey guys. I was wondering, after 2.2 drops, I know CM will be coming as Koush said he would be working on it, but will anyone be working on porting MIUI over to the Fascinate? It looks really impressive and I've contemplated buying an Incredible just to try it out. Is there anyone out there with the skills to do it that will port MIUI to if after 2.2 drops?
I asked this question awhile back and if I remember correctly there's a few people willing to port as soon as it's possible. I'm as anxious as you. I installed it on my brothers Droid and it is PHENOMENAL.
Nice to have options i guess but miui is nothen special i used it for awhile on my droid but launcher pro plus is just better. Specially on something liek the fascinate that allready has bouncing menus and controls in the pull down. And messenger in lockscreen.
But on a diffrent note that is great news about cyanogen coming to the fascinate =)
i switched back to my Inc until 2.2 drops. I missed so many things about MIUI (speed, ease, stablility, overall experience) that i had to go back. I love the form factor of the Fascinate but until 2.2 drops is it kinda just a really sexy paper weight. BTW if no one has tried PowerAMP as a music app, i highly recommend it. Best sound audio player. It is isn't on the market, but search the android app forums for it.
Echo the comment on PowerAmp. Seems to be excellent so far, gotta love the eq, and can't wait to watch it develop from this early beta.
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Moved over from the Droid X (where I had been running Apex). I'm pretty excited to have a nice smaller form factor (only complaint if any is that the screen isn't as bright as the X).
Where should I start looking to play with this? Im sure it will take me a while to catch up on what's happening in INC world.
Custom software. Coming from the Droid X, this is the real advantage of the Incredible in my opinion. I don't know how far you got into rooting, etc., with your DX, but if you hit that point of running into the bootloader, you're free
I'd suggest Cyanogen or MIUI if you want to run AOSP.
If you want to run Sense, Lou's Redemptive Revolution is fantastic, as is Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo.
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Moved over from the Droid X (where I had been running Apex). I'm pretty excited to have a nice smaller form factor (only complaint if any is that the screen isn't as bright as the X).
Where should I start looking to play with this? Im sure it will take me a while to catch up on what's happening in INC world.
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If you haven't done so already, rooting is always good
Unrevoked makes it painless, just follow all the instructions exactly
Then I'm assuming you'll want a custom ROM...
There are 3 basic categories of Sense ROMs, Inc, Evo, and Z. Inc is based on the Incredible code, Evo is based on the Evo code, and Z is based on the Desire Z code. Functionally there isn't too big a difference between Evo and Inc ROMs, just be sure to get the Incredible port of a ROM if it was originally an Evo ROM. Z ROMs, however, have the new Sense interface, with native theme support, sound sets, etc. However, in the Z ROMs 720p video recording doesn't work, and they're generally slightly less stable than Inc/Evo ROMs. They are usually stable enough for daily use though, and offer the most features. From your Droid X experience, you probably know about a lot of the AOSP ROMs (CyanogenMod and the like) but the Incredible has some noteworthy ones, namely MIUI (iPhone and Android made babies) and the Liquid Metal ROM (port of the Acer Liquid Metal UI).
Have fun with your Incredible
Ah nice starter info guys thanks a lot! Flashing process the same to get back to stock like the X was with SFBs or this a different process now (could also be done with clockwork).
Also remember that you probably have an SLCD display vs. the original AMOLED displays. Although the rooting process is the same, kernels are different. Check my sig and a few of my previous posts for more explanation on this.
In a nutshell some of the kernels do not have the SLCD drivers, so everytime you flash a rom you are going to have to flash the appropriate kernel.
Cheers and welcome.
SLCD yes I have a issue with it and I have to be careful of what kernel is baked in since some of the baked in kernels will not let my phone boot! I always use Invisiblek #28/#34 for ASOP roms and I like Lous Kernels other roms!
r3dlined said:
Moved over from the Droid X (where I had been running Apex). I'm pretty excited to have a nice smaller form factor (only complaint if any is that the screen isn't as bright as the X).
Where should I start looking to play with this? Im sure it will take me a while to catch up on what's happening in INC world.
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This may sound like a stupid question but, have you turned off the automatic brightness and changing it manually? When I manually turn my brightness all the way up, I can barely stand to look at it.
No I have the brightness cranked up. It's quite a bit darker than the X screen.
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This may sound like a stupid question but, have you turned off the automatic brightness and changing it manually? When I manually turn my brightness all the way up, I can barely stand to look at it.
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Easy to unbrick these phones with an SFB like the X if it did crash and burn?
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No I have the brightness cranked up. It's quite a bit darker than the X screen.
Easy to unbrick these phones with an SFB like the X if it did crash and burn?
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Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with it. Have you checked it against another Incredible?
This is an amoLED version and I have an SLCD one that should be here Wed. I did look at one in the store and put it side by side to the X there as well. Not a HUGE brightness difference. Maybe my eyes are just burn out lol.
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Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with it. Have you checked it against another Incredible?
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welcome to the world of Incredible. most recent greatness is CM7
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welcome to the world of Incredible. most recent greatness is CM7
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Thanks. I haven't dived into any ROMs just yet, but certainly plan to. I'm trying to navigate around the very small differences coming form the X that I miss (mostly having to do with the address book).
Wow this is a little intimidating coming from just loading a zip file with clockwork. I better get my reading on.
I have a feeling you will like the incredible much better than the X. The most notable difference is that the bootloader is unlocked so you can change the kernel. There are many very nice roms for this phone, the most notable ones I've tried being CyanogenMod 6 and 7, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo, and Skyraider. I haven't tried any of the others but I'm sure they are of the same quality I've came to expect.
I went the other way. It was soooooooo much smoother/easier to flash roms on an Inc. I mostly used miui and miss it BAD. I love the DX size but miss the options available with the Inc.
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ASOP LiquidMetal
Only thing I don't like so far, though CM7 is sick, is ASOP camera not doing widescreen
Cool thats really awesome
http://t3hh4xx0r.com
Check this site out for pure gingerbread and a fully custom version
Also go to irc for 24/7 support
HTC Incredible OMFGB 2.3.2
Ugh now I have both amoled and slcd. Dunno which one I wanna keep ugh. I like both screens for different reasons.
After tried all the roms in NADA way, i find the volume can't be adjusted when i close the display. This means that i had to touch any key first when listening the music, then i can adjust the volume.
I remeber there has same problem in some htc hero rom. But i can't find the solution for HD2.
Hope it can be solved by someone.
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After tried all the roms in NADA way, i find the volume can't be adjusted when i close the display. This means that i had to touch any key first when listening the music, then i can adjust the volume.
I remeber there has same problem in some htc hero rom. But i can't find the solution for HD2.
Hope it can be solved by someone.
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As far as I know that is how all of them work... unfortunately. However, if someone does know a way around this, that would rock!
It's most definitely not standard, Digital Outcast! A couple of ROMs have this bug (or is it a feature?), just try some others.
MDJ's Gingerbread 2.6 sure has functioning volume buttons with a disabled screen, and it also features long-press to skip tracks (w/ screen off only).
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It's most definitely not standard, Digital Outcast! A couple of ROMs have this bug (or is it a feature?), just try some others.
MDJ's Gingerbread 2.6 sure has functioning volume buttons with a disabled screen, and it also features long-press to skip tracks (w/ screen off only).
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Wow really? I guess all the ROM's I've been running are "bugged", hah!
I would love those features... but are those available in 2.3 (Gingerbread) only? Is that maybe what it is?
Of all the roms I've tried (and that's quite a few) I have only experienced it 2-3 times. Granted, Sense builds never lasted more than a couple of hours so I can't vouch for them, I'm more of a stock guy.
I suppose you gave up trying after a few roms without it
It's been a feature for a very long time, I think even the stock 1.5 rom of my ol' HTC Magic had it.
Just feed your phone some Cyanogenmod love. Not only is it a wonderful ROM, the community behind it is should be an example for other communities and even companies.
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Of all the roms I've tried (and that's quite a few) I have only experienced it 2-3 times. Granted, Sense builds never lasted more than a couple of hours so I can't vouch for them, I'm more of a stock guy.
I suppose you gave up trying after a few roms without it
It's been a feature for a very long time, I think even the stock 1.5 rom of my ol' HTC Magic had it.
Just feed your phone some Cyanogenmod love. Not only is it a wonderful ROM, the community behind it is should be an example for other communities and even companies.
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Yeah, I should. CM roms are so clean and fast, I've used them before and always go back and forth. Even have one backed up with CWM when I feel like trying it out again. I just always tend to go back to the HTC roms because I like some of the HTC apps and widgets. I'm sure I could find replacements but never really care to look that far into it.
Clean indeed, yet one of the most fully featured available.
First of all, Gingerbread stock looks pretty slick. Sense still has some pretty good apps, bust most have nice replacements.
Fancy widget is similar to the cliché weather widget. I barely used it but it's popular and well featured, free version available on market.
Dialer One is a popular dialer, similar to the HTC one. Wasn't quite on par with HTC dialer in terms of design, but that may very well have changed by now.
The paid version of LauncherPro (#1 home replacement app imo) features some very nice widgets: facebook, twitter (and a combined one), calendar, contacts, ... Even without these widgets the free version is still a winner, beats the Sense home app handsdown!
Xda posting noob here,
Some people seems to have problems with some of the launchers using the custom roms. I've run into the problem (home screen looping) myself like on my nook color and a few of the custom fascinate roms.
I'm current using RubikS rom from my fascinate, but the camera does not work for it and my phone CDMA reception seems a lot weaker than with the stock eclair (less bars (only one bar) in my room which at best gets 2-3 bars). I don't have the minimum post to post in the dev section or I would be commenting in that thread. I know he is aware of the camera problem. so it is kind of a moot comment on my part.
Back on topic go launcher ex has been working great for me when I run into the home screen loop problem and I also like the functionality. So why is it everybody seems to prefer AWD or that other launcher( whatever its called)? What I am missing?
LBJM said:
Xda posting noob here,
Some people seems to have problems with some of the launchers using the custom roms. I've run into the problem (home screen looping) myself like on my nook color and a few of the custom fascinate roms.
I'm current using RubikS rom from my fascinate, but the camera does not work for it and my phone CDMA reception seems a lot weaker than with the stock eclair (less bars (only one bar) in my room which at best gets 2-3 bars). I don't have the minimum post to post in the dev section or I would be commenting in that thread. I know he is aware of the camera problem. so it is kind of a moot comment on my part.
Back on topic go launcher ex has been working great for me when I run into the home screen loop problem and I also like the functionality. So why is it everybody seems to prefer AWD or that other launcher( whatever its called)? What I am missing?
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I kinda liked Go Launcher, but, never tried the ex version. I noticed it had lots of problems with freezing and stuttering so I got rid of it. I currently use ADW EX now and love it. I've tried Launcher Pro and Launcher Pro Plus but wasn't a fan at all. Both have their positives and negatives and customization features, but, my preference is ADW EX. Download and try the free versions and see what you like. Again, Go launcher was just a bit buggy for me though I did kinda like it.
EDIT: to improve your cell reception, dial *228 and select option 2. It will update your phones roaming capabilities and then reboot your phone automatically. This could and should help.
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go launcher ex (the free version) is what I'm using. I'll check ADW EX on the next RubikS update.
I've used launcher pro in the past, and ever since Go launcher EX came out, I have never looked back.
IMHO this is one of the bettter launchers out there.
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i have tried all the launcher and I keep coming back to launcherpro plus.
Using launcherpro plus with the new circlelauncher and my phone has nerver run better or better organized.
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onemotodroid said:
i have tried all the launcher and I keep coming back to launcherpro plus.
Using launcherpro plus with the new circlelauncher and my phone has nerver run better or better organized.
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Same here...I started with it on a Sammy Moment, then an Epic and now my Fascinate, never looked back.
I use adw launcher pro and its awesome.
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piperat said:
I use adw launcher pro and its awesome.
From my super clean dl30 fascinate
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Wait, what? Do you use ADW, or Launcher Pro? They are two completely different launcher apps.
I stick with Launcher Pro Plus. ADW EX looks tempting, as it has a lot more customization options at the moment, but I really like the LPP widgets, and any replacement I've found for them that will work with another launcher are very poor imitations. Since there is a major rewrite of LPP in the works, I'm content to wait for that, as it will likely have many of the features I've been waiting for.
For the record, I did try Go Launcher Ex for a bit, and like ADW, it does have some things that LP doesn't, but it is also lacking in areas as well, and while nit buggy, just felt stuttery and rough aground the edges, whereas LP feels very polished. In the end, everyone has their own opinion about which launcher is best, and they have their own reasons why. LP is the ticket for me, but don't take my word for it, try it yourself and see what you like.
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ivorycruncher said:
For the record, I did try Go Launcher Ex for a bit, and like ADW, it does have some things that LP doesn't, but it is also lacking in areas as well, and while nit buggy, just felt stuttery and rough aground the edges, whereas LP feels very polished. In the end, everyone has their own opinion about which launcher is best, and they have their own reasons why. LP is the ticket for me, but don't take my word for it, try it yourself and see what you like.
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LP huh? How much memory does it use? I'm surprized none has bought up Zeam.
I've never installed Zeam, but from what I've seen in screenshots, it's basically a barebones version of LauncherPro, focusing on performance rather than functionality. I could be wrong though.
How much memory does LP use? No idea, and I don't really care either, since Android has such good memory management. I'm willing to bet it's less than TouchWiz though.
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So I have this problem, where I cannot for the life of me stick to a stinkin ROM type. AOSP or Sense. And since I am a fan of Sense 1.0 and until just recently there has been no good gingerbread roms using it ive had to try almost all the 2.1/3.0 ROMS. None which I like. Our phone is just too slow to handle it well (IMO).
So, does anyone else have this indecisive behavior? If you do what do you find yourself on most of the time? Sense, or AOSP?
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
POQbum said:
AOSP / CM7.
I found that all my indecisiveness was cured with themeing my phone.
Used Launcher Pro instead of the cruddy default launcher that CM7 uses, I used android kitchen (http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/) to theme my status bar, drop down and icons in the status bar- and I used a couple more themeing widgets and apps found from people at http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Also I changed the dock background to a better looking one and I moved around the icons in Launcher Pro so that it'd be simpler to click on them quickly (like the phone icon).
I think the key is to find a stable yet up-to-date ROM, then mod the crap outta it until you really love it, then don't update it unless you really want to (like a new version of android comes out). I'm not planning on upgrading my CM7 unless android has a new release, which may be a few months.
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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Yeah but the problem I find with AOSP is that it indeed feels so half baked to me. Like there is no K9 dialing? WTH. (It's coming, some guy built it and is going to submit it to review, but still, it hasnt had this???) The browser is sooo much slower graphically. Flash is useless.
But it's so clean. And fast. never freezes.
And themes, eh they never feel complete either. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours!
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ah yeah I think you're missing some pieces. If you want T9 dialing then there are "dialer" apps out there. Go Dialer I think was one of the better ones, but I still prefer stock (no T9 smart dialing but I'm ok with it)
You don't have to use prepackaged themes, really you can theme your phone into anything you're looking for. There are apps, widgets and modifications to do it, if you need any hints on which apps and places to go I can let you know. I don't even know what browser comes with CM7, I always uninstall. Dolphin Mini Browser has always been my favorite.
I think you are looking at only what is presented with the ROM, you can really exchange/modify most things in any rooted ROM pretty easily.
and I don't mean to try and sell you on a particular ROM, I just want to make sure you know what's possible and what's out there
OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
I've been on MIUI as a daily for probably 6 months now, the themeing possibilities with this ROM honestly have gotten rid of any need to crackflash for me. BTW OP, it has T9 stock and a bunch of other great things.
I also tried most of the Sense 3.0 ROMs and couldn't find one that I liked enough to stay for more than about a week (Nils BS3.0 for the record) and most only last a few hours. Just can't beat the smoothness and possibilities that come with MIUI IMO.
i have been using skyraider 4.3 the most, swapped it out recently for CM7 until today i went back, and was super glad i did.
Key features for me are:
-CM7 style dual slider lockscreen
(this is a must because i like to be able to go directly to the dialer or messages, and have instant access to switch the phone to vibrate/ring from the lockscreen)
-stock gingerbread keyboard (not a fan of the sense one)
-quick and stable
-sense dialer
Edit: There is also a skyraider 5.0 in the works, using the new OTA gingerbread framework, though not ETA for that yet
My experience has been that Sense 1.0 ROMs are the most stable and smooth. I liked SkyRaider the best for performance and customization, but now that GB is official it's hard to stay on Froyo. SR 5 is coming, but probably not for a while.
My daily right now is Insensitive-Minimalist 2.1. It has the Sense framework, most of the better Sense Apps, but everything else removed. It's fast and stable, IMHO. It lacks the customizable features in CM, but I can live without those.
I keep a backup of CM7 on my phone for when I want to play emulators with my wii controller, otherwise I hop around on various Sense roms. Really liking the Bliss port that's going on right now.
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OP, you must be a REAL flash-o-holic. I just tried CM7.1... again... on my Tbolt and I can't STAND it. CM doesn't seem any faster on my dInc or my Tbolt than the Sense 1.0 ROM I had on the dInc or the Sense 3.0 3D ROM on my Tbolt. In fact, it shows more lag on both. It's just not a finished product in my opinion. To relate it to a car...
A good Sense ROM is like the whole package. Everything has been thought out and the right things added and the whole package pretty nicely tied together and polished.
AOSP is kinda like GM just sold you the rolling chassis. Now you gotta put some kind of body on it, something to steer it with, lights, seats, wheels better than the stamped steel crap they rolled off the truck on... It's like a hobby kit of an OS. If someone offered a decent package of widgets for AOSP I might give it more than a half a day on my phone. I just don't have any desire to spend hours of time and money trying to slowly build an AOSP ROM into something that begins to do what I want. If AOSP was my only choice, I'd be back on BlackBerry.
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Ah you share my thoughts exactly. Cyanogenmod and the team do a great job of what they do but AOSP to me is like what you said, a chassis on wheels. My favorite ROMs used to be virtuous and skyraider, but I can't go back to froyo now that in on the gingerbread train.
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