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As we don't have a nand rom currently which is supporting extended batteries (2300mha), I'd like to start this thread to provide some information about releases, which do.
This can help all HTC extended battery (2300mha) users as they don't have to go through the flashing process first only to see that extended batteries aren't supported.
If anyone has a nand release which is ready for original HTC extended batteries, you are of course welcome to post this release.
Actual status
- 15.01.2011: Releases are available, but support is not 100% yet, battery drops very fast from 100-60%, stays there and drops again.
- 09.02.2011: check this thread with a modified kernel from arne182 who fixed the rapid drain from 100-60% with extended batterys. It's currently in testing but if this kernel works as expected, we will have a fully working extended battery support finally.
List of tested and working (at least for me) releases:
[Dec 30][NAND] CMN 6.1 v1.02 [RMNET] [SMARTASS] [Kernel: Hastarin 8.6 Custom] - Big THX to Moon2 for reporting this.
Notice to this release: This release also suffers from the 100%-60% battery drop behaviour, so support is not at 100% actually.
i have tried
[Dec 31][NAND] gauner1986's HD-FI (Desire HD based)
to no avail...
I've been using [Dec 30][NAND] CMN 6.1 v1.02 [RMNET] [SMARTASS] [Kernel: Hastarin 8.6 Custom] for a day now, it works fine. Look for the Hastarin Kernel based roms, they're the ones with beta eb support.
PS. This may work too: [Jan 01][NAND] [NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9 NAND][Kernel: hastarin r8.6_oldcam UTF8]
Working fine
I have a 2400 MAH extended battery with kickstand cover. Cheapest one they sell on Ebay for $12. I can confirm it works with NAND Desire HD, and Deisre roms. Nothing special booted up with no issues. Probably doesn't help but indeed some do work.
Jwatt0918 said:
I have a 2400 MAH extended battery with kickstand cover. Cheapest one they sell on Ebay for $12. I can confirm it works with NAND Desire HD, and Deisre roms. Nothing special booted up with no issues. Probably doesn't help but indeed some do work.
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Remember the cheap batteries don't need the eb kernel, only the official one from htc.
AFAIK, there's no support for the OFFICIAL one yet.
Moon2 said:
I've been using [Dec 30][NAND] CMN 6.1 v1.02 [RMNET] [SMARTASS] [Kernel: Hastarin 8.6 Custom] for a day now, it works fine. Look for the Hastarin Kernel based roms, they're the ones with beta eb support.
PS. This may work too: [Jan 01][NAND] [NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9 NAND][Kernel: hastarin r8.6_oldcam UTF8]
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Derek0228 said:
Remember the cheap batteries don't need the eb kernel, only the official one from htc.
AFAIK, there's no support for the OFFICIAL one yet.
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As mentioned above, it works for me, and YES I am using the 2300mah official extended battery. The other ones do not require a modified kernel, but this one does, and so far, only hastarin's modified kernel by ocm has this support.
This might work for all builds: [JAN 01][KERNEL][NAND] Stock kernel with a few fixes. It may have the eb battery support patch included from hastarin's kernel.
Edit - Ok, scratch that, OP mentioned that it doesn't have the patch.
Moon2 said:
This might work for all builds: [JAN 01][KERNEL][NAND] Stock kernel with a few fixes. It may have the eb battery support patch included from hastarin's kernel.
Edit - Ok, scratch that, OP mentioned that it doesn't have the patch.
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This was really a very promising release, but unfortunately we'll have to wait
But thanks for posting anyway.
Moon2 said:
As mentioned above, it works for me, and YES I am using the 2300mah official extended battery. The other ones do not require a modified kernel, but this one does, and so far, only hastarin's modified kernel by ocm has this support.
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Confirmed and updated first thread! Thanks for reporting this one!
The problem with the CMN 6.1 v1.02 build is:
The battery percentage drops from 100% to ~60% in about 20 minutes, which is insane. Then it stays at 60%-55% much longer.
I tried to compile Hastarin's eb kernel with NAND changes...but with no luck. Whenever I insert the extended battery my Android keeps shutting down itself...
I hope somebody releases a NAND kernel with proper eb support.
i can use any of the builds as long as i use the Hastarin Kernel..
using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896831
The link doesn't work...
oops sorry my bad.. the work wasnt mine... just thought i'd add that, but it does work well
Okay, I see. But this still uses the experimental EB support which is everything but accurate...
ElBartoME said:
Okay, I see. But this still uses the experimental EB support which is everything but accurate...
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true true.. but at least kernels can be changed and you can then expand the amount of builds that EB users can run, as changing kernels for NAND builds isnt as easy as SD... I have my EB constantly in my phone and loathe going back to my regular battery..
Just installed this: Hastarin's r8.6 oldcam kernel modified and compiled by [email protected]
It supports extended batteries, but haven't had it long enough to be able to tell how the battery life is, and seeing how it's got some of the more later fixes, it may do better, than jump from 100% to 60% and then play around.
ElBartoME said:
The problem with the CMN 6.1 v1.02 build is:
The battery percentage drops from 100% to ~60% in about 20 minutes, which is insane. Then it stays at 60%-55% much longer.
I tried to compile Hastarin's eb kernel with NAND changes...but with no luck. Whenever I insert the extended battery my Android keeps shutting down itself...
I hope somebody releases a NAND kernel with proper eb support.
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I always thought, this issue was related to some apps I recently installed. But with your confirmation it's hard to call this release "proper working with extended batteries"
In the last days I really learned to hate this android shutdown behaviour. A kernel with compiled eb kernel in it, would really be a good solution. Sad to hear it didn't worked
I think we'll have to wait for Hastarin to return and to provide a new NAND kernel with his changes included.
Let's hope for the best, currently NAND with extended battery isn't really fun at all.
Moon2 said:
Just installed this: Hastarin's r8.6 oldcam kernel modified and compiled by [email protected]
It supports extended batteries, but haven't had it long enough to be able to tell how the battery life is, and seeing how it's got some of the more later fixes, it may do better, than jump from 100% to 60% and then play around.
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Please keep us updated with your observations!
Moon2 said:
Just installed this: Hastarin's r8.6 oldcam kernel modified and compiled by [email protected]
me2 on NexusHD2-Gingerbread v2.0 NAND (08 JAN)
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060)
Originally Posted by Renegade_Rulez!!!
Extended Battery IS supported!!! the first nand build that I see where I can use my extended battery and the smoothness is AMAZING!!
and yes,it works!
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ElBartoME said:
The problem with the CMN 6.1 v1.02 build is:
The battery percentage drops from 100% to ~60% in about 20 minutes, which is insane. Then it stays at 60%-55% much longer.
ok people,
cheered a bit too early,the battery-display is also too fast at 65%.
at least you can use your eb...
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Hello is there any nand rom that works with the extended battery?
many thanks.
legend63 said:
Hello is there any nand rom that works with the extended battery?
many thanks.
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Not for the OFFICIAL EB, Unofficial EBs work fine with/without Extended Battery Kernels
hd2k10 said:
Not for the OFFICIAL EB, Unofficial EBs work fine with/without Extended Battery Kernels
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Why not?
legend63 said:
Why not?
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Nobody has released a kernel with EB support for NAND yet, give it time though --- I think Hastarin is working on one, not completely sure though.
hd2k10 said:
Not for the OFFICIAL EB, Unofficial EBs work fine with/without Extended Battery Kernels
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Are you able to elaborate on this? Do the aftermarket EB's just "work fine" or do they actually work correctly?
Apache0c said:
Are you able to elaborate on this? Do the aftermarket EB's just "work fine" or do they actually work correctly?
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Works "fine" either way, only certain Desire builds when I had SD builds would drain my battery "properly".
I didn't notice a difference between EB and Non-EB kernels, my battery would drain normal speed (as the stock 1250mA) to 0% then turn off the phone then I'd pop the battery out and put it back in and have 60% left.
hd2k10 said:
Works "fine" either way, only certain Desire builds when I had SD builds would drain my battery "properly".
I didn't notice a difference between EB and Non-EB kernels, my battery would drain normal speed (as the stock 1250mA) to 0% then turn off the phone then I'd pop the battery out and put it back in and have 60% left.
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Interesting. But still not actually supported to work correctly so that you can use the full 2600mah without having to remove and replace the battery. I wonder if we will ever have this type of support for EBs...
Apache0c said:
Interesting. But still not actually supported to work correctly so that you can use the full 2600mah without having to remove and replace the battery. I wonder if we will ever have this type of support for EBs...
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The reason they're different from Official EB's is because EB's won't boot without the EB Kernel, only Desire based Roms on SD builds would drain all the way for me, they'd drain normal to 15% then stay at 15% till the actual battery was at 15% and then continue to 0% till it was dead. Haven't found a NAND that does this yet, supposedly it reports battery stats wrong anyway.
I was hoping to install the newest NAND Android build from Sergio76 with the official HTC extended battery. I suppose this combination will not work??
Niek_66 said:
I was hoping to install the newest NAND Android build from Sergio76 with the official HTC extended battery. I suppose this combination will not work??
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No as there is no kernel support yet
I hope there will be a NAND build soon that does support the original extended HTC battery.
Other non official extended battery's, do they work with NAND Android ROM'S?
Niek_66 said:
I hope there will be a NAND build soon that does support the original extended HTC battery.
Other non official extended battery's, do they work with NAND Android ROM'S?
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Apparently all if not most unofficial ones work, just not the official
Is the extended battery the same physical size as the standard battery?
gottabekin said:
Is the extended battery the same physical size as the standard battery?
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Not really. As far as i know, most 2300mah batteries has a bigger size so there will be a "bump" at the back of your hd2. That is why they are supplied with a suitable back cover!
Just wanted to report back. I have the $13 Singapore 2600 mah battery and it works with MDJ Cyanogenmod 7 v2.6.
I dont even have to remove and replace the battery for it to work. It's not perfect though, it basically runs down normally (slightly faster than I would like) and lasts a full day getting down to a 15% charge. Then it stays at 15% for another entire day and then discharges normally from there.
With all the progress that has been made on Android for HD2, I feel optimistic that the last several minor bugs will eventually be worked out and the device should function flawlessly.
Good idea here pick me
try this link (below)... it has an eb kernel that you install using clockworkmod.. so ur nand roms without eb support should work after you install.. hope this works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10429937&postcount=3
kendonsh said:
try this link (below)... it has an eb kernel that you install using clockworkmod.. so ur nand roms without eb support should work after you install.. hope this works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10429937&postcount=3
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Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated but unfortunately, I have not been able to get CWM to work on my device.
Apache0c said:
Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated but unfortunately, I have not been able to get CWM to work on my device.
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Backup your data and reformat your SD card then go through the CWM process again. Keep in mind, you need a CWM build to apply CWM Updates/patches.
This is what's highly recommended (and what fixed my CWM problems)
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html
I have searched this forum as best i could to find some rom that works and supports extended battery fully....meaning it charges normally and works A-okay. This thread is meant to direct some effort towards building something for us idiots who went and bought this.....probably useless item from ebay.
Any help would be much appreciated.
koullas said:
I have searched this forum as best i could to find some rom that works and supports extended battery fully....meaning it charges normally and works A-okay. This thread is meant to direct some effort towards building something for us idiots who went and bought this.....probably useless item from ebay.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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most builds will support extended battery if you change the kernel using tytung's eb kernel.
Thank you for your fast reply jose makalolot i really appreciate it. But what i was looking for was a standalone rom which supports extended battery.
Thanks again will give this a try
Ok still i'm having trouble finding an installation guide for this so i'm still lost.
No 'standalone' rom comes with extended battery support, it's all down to the attatched kernel. There's a difference.
If you have an official htc extended battery, get the above tytung_r2_eb_signed kernel, if not other kernels are supposed to have support for NON OFFICIAL extended batteries, so just try boot up any rom you choose if you have one of these
jose makalolot said:
most builds will support extended battery if you change the kernel using tytung's eb kernel.
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Can u tell me how to change the kernel plz ??
jose makalolot said:
most builds will support extended battery if you change the kernel using tytung's eb kernel.
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Yes, but not the original htc extended battery
Yeah well all i found so far was hastarin for sd based android can someone point us to the correct direction for an original extended battery for a nand flashed android. + since i'm a bit of a noob some installation instructions wouldn't hurt
koullas said:
Yeah well all i found so far was hastarin for sd based android can someone point us to the correct direction for an original extended battery for a nand flashed android. + since i'm a bit of a noob some installation instructions wouldn't hurt
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Try the mentioned tytung one above, its based of hastarins eb kernel but modified for nand builds, I haven't got round to testing it yet so you can let me know how you get on!
Hey,
I am using MDJs CM7 2.6 Kernal:MDJ 10.4 OC with a non-HTC extended battery.
What happens to me is the battery meter shows degression like a usual battery, but at 15% (and according to the forums some people it is at 11% - but basically around then) the batter meter stops moving for hours!
And if you want to know about how much you have left take out the battery, put it in, and restart, and it will show you (I say about because it will get stuck again at 15% but for much less time).
I found a solution to this problem...well the battery works even though this build is buggy as hell but at least the phone wont restart compulsively. If you flash this rom you're phone will work with the extended battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Still not the best solution please leave this post open so that if somebody finds something better he can post it here.
As in the HTC official 2300 battery. It seems to be charging at the same rate as the old 1230 one.... which is quite fast. And it came precharged at 65 percent, is that correct?
Or should I reinstall Current Widget + the battery widget since changing batteries and kennels?
Please, sir, which ROM are you using? I am waiting desperately to find one to support my HTC 2300 EB.
die_braut said:
Please, sir, which ROM are you using? I am waiting desperately to find one to support my HTC 2300 EB.
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It's not the ROM.
It's the Kennel.
Use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948181
Then ANY ROM you want.
FirefighterDown said:
It's not the ROM.
It's the Kennel.
Use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948181
Then ANY ROM you want.
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Awesome now i just wonder what all roms are using this kernel
Finally hear a found solution of my problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10206031&postcount=2
I have installed everything but when my phone boots into android, after about a minute it will just restart itself and continue the same over and over without ever fully going into android
Do you use an Extended Battery? The current kernels in these NAND Roms don't support EB as yet. If so, try with your normal battery.
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if anyone fix that problem?
Which ROM are you using? Most ROMs support extended battery, I think. The ROM thread should say in one of the first few posts, and also you can scroll through the first few and last few pages to see if anyone has had this problem with your particular ROM.
i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898818 but this is old conversation maybe someone fix that in any application or other case for rest of NANDs
at other forum guy said that the kernel is a clue.....
were i find update of kernel which operate extended battery ???
Siewicz said:
i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898818 but this is old conversation maybe someone fix that in any application or other case.
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Are you using the official HTC Extended battery? And again, PLEASE POST YOUR ROM. The guide you have posted is old, I'm reasonably sure extended batteries are now supported.
Nigeldg said:
Are you using the official HTC Extended battery? And again, PLEASE POST YOUR ROM. The guide you have posted is old, I'm reasonably sure extended batteries are now supported.
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battery original
i tried this on
LEO_NAND_Android
MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.3_NAND_A2SD+
MDJ_Revolution_HD_v._2.2_NAND
Mdeejay_FroYo_Revolution_v._1.7_S6.1
RAFDROID_HD_SD_4_2
like i wrote earlier its probably kernel is a clue
Siewicz said:
battery original
i tried this on
LEO_NAND_Android
MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.3_NAND_A2SD+
MDJ_Revolution_HD_v._2.2_NAND
Mdeejay_FroYo_Revolution_v._1.7_S6.1
RAFDROID_HD_SD_4_2
like i wrote earlier its probably kernel is a clue
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All of these are old ROMs. Try newer ROMs e.g. Typhoon CM7 or some form of Sense 3/MIUI ROM. A complete guide to installing them can be found here.