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[Q] Kernel question....

I do not have a PC Reader, so I can not install Kernal 8.5.1, is there build with at least 8.5 built into it? Every build I have tried so far, drains the battery really fast, even when I just text all day. I heard that the build's with sense drain the battery, but I can not find a Froyo build without Sense UI, can anyone help? I wish I could install this Kernel without having a PC Reader

use your usb cable

That is not very specific. I have Hastarin Kernel 8.5.1 on my Desktop right now, but how do I install that kernel onto my phone, also are there any builds with 8.5.1 already built in? Please give step by step instructions, I have my phone plugged in via usb, but I do not know how to go about installing the Kernel.....

Don't you think you should be asking this question in the thread were you got the kernel from? Instead if opening up a new one.

mattfmartin said:
Don't you think you should be asking this question in the thread were you got the kernel from? Instead if opening up a new one.
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Give him a break, it's the Q&A section after all.
@TS: boot into WinMo, and just transfer the kernel files to your SD card with the usb cable. More info on which files should be moved where, check the first post of hastarin's thread.

Thank you Stephan. I found a Build desire HD2, by Cedesmith, it seems the build already has Kernel 8.5.1 built in it, I could be wrong, please verify that, because I would install that build and just be fine with it.

Gv2004 said:
Thank you Stephan. I found a Build desire HD2, by Cedesmith, it seems the build already has Kernel 8.5.1 built in it, I could be wrong, please verify that, because I would install that build and just be fine with it.
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Just read whats in cedesmith's thread, I'm really not gonna check that for you. Most people here are glad to assist but you're gonna have to learn to figure some things out for yourself.

StephanV said:
Just read whats in cedesmith's thread, I'm really not gonna check that for you. Most people here are glad to assist but you're gonna have to learn to figure some things out for yourself.
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Does flashing a Custom Rom such as Energy, help runt the phone faster, and would it help the battery life while running Android?

Gv2004 said:
Does flashing a Custom Rom such as Energy, help runt the phone faster, and would it help the battery life while running Android?
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Yes it does.

Nand & extended battery

Hello is there any nand rom that works with the extended battery?
many thanks.

legend63 said:
Hello is there any nand rom that works with the extended battery?
many thanks.
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Not for the OFFICIAL EB, Unofficial EBs work fine with/without Extended Battery Kernels

hd2k10 said:
Not for the OFFICIAL EB, Unofficial EBs work fine with/without Extended Battery Kernels
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Why not?

legend63 said:
Why not?
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Nobody has released a kernel with EB support for NAND yet, give it time though --- I think Hastarin is working on one, not completely sure though.

hd2k10 said:
Not for the OFFICIAL EB, Unofficial EBs work fine with/without Extended Battery Kernels
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Are you able to elaborate on this? Do the aftermarket EB's just "work fine" or do they actually work correctly?

Apache0c said:
Are you able to elaborate on this? Do the aftermarket EB's just "work fine" or do they actually work correctly?
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Works "fine" either way, only certain Desire builds when I had SD builds would drain my battery "properly".
I didn't notice a difference between EB and Non-EB kernels, my battery would drain normal speed (as the stock 1250mA) to 0% then turn off the phone then I'd pop the battery out and put it back in and have 60% left.

hd2k10 said:
Works "fine" either way, only certain Desire builds when I had SD builds would drain my battery "properly".
I didn't notice a difference between EB and Non-EB kernels, my battery would drain normal speed (as the stock 1250mA) to 0% then turn off the phone then I'd pop the battery out and put it back in and have 60% left.
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Interesting. But still not actually supported to work correctly so that you can use the full 2600mah without having to remove and replace the battery. I wonder if we will ever have this type of support for EBs...

Apache0c said:
Interesting. But still not actually supported to work correctly so that you can use the full 2600mah without having to remove and replace the battery. I wonder if we will ever have this type of support for EBs...
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The reason they're different from Official EB's is because EB's won't boot without the EB Kernel, only Desire based Roms on SD builds would drain all the way for me, they'd drain normal to 15% then stay at 15% till the actual battery was at 15% and then continue to 0% till it was dead. Haven't found a NAND that does this yet, supposedly it reports battery stats wrong anyway.

I was hoping to install the newest NAND Android build from Sergio76 with the official HTC extended battery. I suppose this combination will not work??

Niek_66 said:
I was hoping to install the newest NAND Android build from Sergio76 with the official HTC extended battery. I suppose this combination will not work??
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No as there is no kernel support yet

I hope there will be a NAND build soon that does support the original extended HTC battery.
Other non official extended battery's, do they work with NAND Android ROM'S?

Niek_66 said:
I hope there will be a NAND build soon that does support the original extended HTC battery.
Other non official extended battery's, do they work with NAND Android ROM'S?
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Apparently all if not most unofficial ones work, just not the official

Is the extended battery the same physical size as the standard battery?

gottabekin said:
Is the extended battery the same physical size as the standard battery?
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Not really. As far as i know, most 2300mah batteries has a bigger size so there will be a "bump" at the back of your hd2. That is why they are supplied with a suitable back cover!

Just wanted to report back. I have the $13 Singapore 2600 mah battery and it works with MDJ Cyanogenmod 7 v2.6.
I dont even have to remove and replace the battery for it to work. It's not perfect though, it basically runs down normally (slightly faster than I would like) and lasts a full day getting down to a 15% charge. Then it stays at 15% for another entire day and then discharges normally from there.
With all the progress that has been made on Android for HD2, I feel optimistic that the last several minor bugs will eventually be worked out and the device should function flawlessly.

Good idea here pick me
try this link (below)... it has an eb kernel that you install using clockworkmod.. so ur nand roms without eb support should work after you install.. hope this works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10429937&postcount=3

kendonsh said:
try this link (below)... it has an eb kernel that you install using clockworkmod.. so ur nand roms without eb support should work after you install.. hope this works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10429937&postcount=3
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Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated but unfortunately, I have not been able to get CWM to work on my device.

Apache0c said:
Thanks for your help, it is much appreciated but unfortunately, I have not been able to get CWM to work on my device.
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Backup your data and reformat your SD card then go through the CWM process again. Keep in mind, you need a CWM build to apply CWM Updates/patches.
This is what's highly recommended (and what fixed my CWM problems)
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/sd/download/index.html

[Q] Where can I find official T-MO MT3G Froyo kernel?

Hi, as the topic states, does anyone know where i can download one and flash? my setup on my sig is current.
thanks

So you're trying to run the official kernel with a custom ROM? Why?

why not? and what prevents me from running an official kernel? to OC and drain my batteries? other than that, what else?
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what may keep me from using an official kernel is the 15MB additional ram. however i was under the impression that if I had radio 2.22.27.08, and H-Boot 1.33.0013(d), it doesnt limit me from using any of the froyo kernels floating around. if im incorrect with my assumptions, can someone enlighten me?

nomadman said:
why not? and what prevents me from running an official kernel? to OC and drain my batteries? other than that, what else?
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Because you can't OC is probably the main reason. The only other one I can think of is the random battery drain that some kernels experience.
On the plus side I can think of stability and battery life. Knock yourself out, I'm sure someone can post it for you.
I have the zip file for the 2.2 OTA but I have no idea where to find the kernel.
Here's a link. - http://www.filedropper.com/update3-e3671133717dsigned-opal-frg83-from-dmd64e3671133

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Because you can't OC is probably the main reason. The only other one I can think of is the random battery drain that some kernels experience.
On the plus side I can think of stability and battery life. Knock yourself out, I'm sure someone can post it for you.
I have the zip file for the 2.2 OTA but I have no idea where to find the kernel.
Here's a link to my dropbox. - http://db.tt/XHrvInZ
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IMO, the current ROm im using (TheOfficial) is working wonderfully. I care less about overclocking since I don't play games and dont find the need for the applications I use to be overclocked. Also the UI response on the ROM is incredible.
You are right, until the other ROMs iron out the random battery drain, which I have experiences in both CM7 and pershoot kernels, i wont be using them because i do not like having to restart the phone every time after i charge. ezterry's current kernel always gives me the green screen. however, ez's older kernel doesn't, but I prefer running the latest unmodified kernel.
I'm satisfied using a non-oc kernel and would rather set the mim clock freq. to ~177.

Makes sense. If you can figure out how to extract the kernel from that zip I linked you to, you should have your kernel.

Phateless said:
Makes sense. If you can figure out how to extract the kernel from that zip I linked you to, you should have your kernel.
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lol, thats my problem. I don't. I also have athe official OTA Froyo image for mt3g. but i have no idea how to extract and apply it to the current OS. Thanks for the offer though. i'll try to find a way to do it. was just hoping someone had a flashable official kernel laying around they'de like to share.

I hit a brick wall. I guess i'll just stick with ezBiffTestKernel20101106-2708_S based on kernel 2.6.34.7. It's a bit old but it will suffice until i figure it out. At least I don't have to reboot every time I pull from the USB charger.
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Btw, can anyhone remember that the OTA kernel version was?

nomadman said:
I hit a brick wall. I guess i'll just stick with ezBiffTestKernel20101106-2708_S based on kernel 2.6.34.7. It's a bit old but it will suffice until i figure it out. At least I don't have to reboot every time I pull from the USB charger.
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Btw, can anyhone remember that the OTA kernel version was?
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Naw but you could always nandroid back to stock and look. If I could figure out how to delete my google account info from my nandroids I'd email one to you. I still have a few from my mt3g.

Phateless said:
Naw but you could always nandroid back to stock and look. If I could figure out how to delete my google account info from my nandroids I'd email one to you. I still have a few from my mt3g.
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thats ok dude. too much trouble on your part. gonna try out koush-AnyKernel-a09a6f1 or dsixda_Android_Kitchen_0.113 and see what i come up with. (fish'in). and im sure there's a ROM out there that doesnt have a modified kernel i can extract from. Just cant figure out how to get it from the offical OTA archive

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thats ok dude. too much trouble on your part. gonna try out koush-AnyKernel-a09a6f1 or dsixda_Android_Kitchen_0.113 and see what i come up with. (fish'in). and im sure there's a ROM out there that doesnt have a modified kernel i can extract from. Just cant figure out how to get it from the offical OTA archive
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Actually there might be a legal copyright issue with distributing oem kernels in custom ROMs. I don't know for sure though.

Shouldn't been since the kernel code is open source, but I'm not sure either. I did find a guide to extracting kernel's from ROM's but it requires that you are either running Linux or are running Linux in a virtual environment.

Phateless said:
Actually there might be a legal copyright issue with distributing oem kernels in custom ROMs. I don't know for sure though.
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The kernel is open source. I dont think i have a problem there. Its gapps that we can not redistribute. i read that from CM forum.
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...I did find a guide to extracting kernel's from ROM's but it requires that you are either running Linux or are running Linux in a virtual environment.
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thanks! if u can find the link again, i'd be grateful. im on a unix (Mac) environment, so i might be able to do it. if not on Mac, I already have vmware fusion installed and its not a problem slapping on the latest Ubuntu.
I did find a how-to on CM wiki that required a boot.img and fastboot to flash. also found one requiring zimage from a rom. but i could not find the zimage file from the TMO Froyo OTA. lol.

Here's what I was reading. Which is doing the boot.img method.

DonJuan692006 said:
Here's what I was reading. Which is doing the boot.img method.
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nice! androidcentral was down for maintenance the whole time i was researching yesterday. thanks for the link!

nomadman said:
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what may keep me from using an official kernel is the 15MB additional ram. however i was under the impression that if I had radio 2.22.27.08, and H-Boot 1.33.0013(d), it doesnt limit me from using any of the froyo kernels floating around. if im incorrect with my assumptions, can someone enlighten me?
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Glad I happened to go back a page...
The official kernel is meant to go with 0013 and 28.25 so yes, you should still have the additional RAM, which this phone desperately needs.

2.6.32.9-g94b855e
[email protected]#1 is what my phone says and I just received the OTA update a few days ago. Hope this is what you were looking for!

I've been trying to figure this out all day. I actually have a linux installation already but none of the download links for the perl files work. If you have them please upload them somewhere and I'll make us a flashable AnyKernel update.zip.
I've been trying to follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667923 but none of the android-dls.com links work

[Q] Extended battery on NAND flashed android support

I have searched this forum as best i could to find some rom that works and supports extended battery fully....meaning it charges normally and works A-okay. This thread is meant to direct some effort towards building something for us idiots who went and bought this.....probably useless item from ebay.
Any help would be much appreciated.

koullas said:
I have searched this forum as best i could to find some rom that works and supports extended battery fully....meaning it charges normally and works A-okay. This thread is meant to direct some effort towards building something for us idiots who went and bought this.....probably useless item from ebay.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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most builds will support extended battery if you change the kernel using tytung's eb kernel.

Thank you for your fast reply jose makalolot i really appreciate it. But what i was looking for was a standalone rom which supports extended battery.
Thanks again will give this a try

Ok still i'm having trouble finding an installation guide for this so i'm still lost.

No 'standalone' rom comes with extended battery support, it's all down to the attatched kernel. There's a difference.
If you have an official htc extended battery, get the above tytung_r2_eb_signed kernel, if not other kernels are supposed to have support for NON OFFICIAL extended batteries, so just try boot up any rom you choose if you have one of these

jose makalolot said:
most builds will support extended battery if you change the kernel using tytung's eb kernel.
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Can u tell me how to change the kernel plz ??

jose makalolot said:
most builds will support extended battery if you change the kernel using tytung's eb kernel.
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Yes, but not the original htc extended battery

Yeah well all i found so far was hastarin for sd based android can someone point us to the correct direction for an original extended battery for a nand flashed android. + since i'm a bit of a noob some installation instructions wouldn't hurt

koullas said:
Yeah well all i found so far was hastarin for sd based android can someone point us to the correct direction for an original extended battery for a nand flashed android. + since i'm a bit of a noob some installation instructions wouldn't hurt
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Try the mentioned tytung one above, its based of hastarins eb kernel but modified for nand builds, I haven't got round to testing it yet so you can let me know how you get on!

Hey,
I am using MDJs CM7 2.6 Kernal:MDJ 10.4 OC with a non-HTC extended battery.
What happens to me is the battery meter shows degression like a usual battery, but at 15% (and according to the forums some people it is at 11% - but basically around then) the batter meter stops moving for hours!
And if you want to know about how much you have left take out the battery, put it in, and restart, and it will show you (I say about because it will get stuck again at 15% but for much less time).

I found a solution to this problem...well the battery works even though this build is buggy as hell but at least the phone wont restart compulsively. If you flash this rom you're phone will work with the extended battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
Still not the best solution please leave this post open so that if somebody finds something better he can post it here.

[Q] HD2 Android Rom without sense UI please?

So I absolutely love my HD2 with android on it. So much better than windows! But sense keeps getting in the way of my apps (mostly Wiimote apps) and it is getting really annoying...Is there a way around that? Or more to the point, does anyone know of a good rom that is android without sense that I can run?

cm7 based builds give you a good performance. you can also try miui builds they are fast too.

HyperDroid.

Rajiah said:
So I absolutely love my HD2 with android on it. So much better than windows! But sense keeps getting in the way of my apps (mostly Wiimote apps) and it is getting really annoying...Is there a way around that? Or more to the point, does anyone know of a good rom that is android without sense that I can run?
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cm7 rom in my signature was a flashaholic until i re-flashed typhoon 7 months after i first flashed the rom but must include this as people always say (WHAT IS BEST FOR ME, MAY NOT BE FOR YOU)
good luck

As Mentioned earlier,
HyperDroid.

Thanks guys I will check these out!

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HyperDroid.
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Hey i've checked this out and it looks good but i can not for the life of me to get it working. I've done the clock thing but now I've downloaded the rom (i think) and there are just three files and i don't know what to do with that I am rather new to this, only installed one rom before. Can you help me out?

Rajiah said:
Hey i've checked this out and it looks good but i can not for the life of me to get it working. I've done the clock thing but now I've downloaded the rom (i think) and there are just three files and i don't know what to do with that I am rather new to this, only installed one rom before. Can you help me out?
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What problem are you having? (former serial ROM flasher!!!!)
Are you using HD2 Toolkit, makes life a lot simpler for flashing ROMS etc

if you ask 10 people here what rom they like your bound to get 20 different responces. your best bet is to try each rom intill you find a rom you like and stick with it. i have 2 or 3 roms i like best and keep them on my sd so when i feel i need to change i just flash 1 real quick.
if you take a look at this web page there is a list of all the android roms listed here on XDA. its much easier to look through then the pages here & also it tells you if it has sence or not, when it was updated, if its a nand or sd version, when it was added as well as some other useful information. i would check it out and hopefully you can find a rom you like that works for you.

Go try to "TyphooN CyanogenMod 7".
I think you will like it if you don't like sense roms.

Which CM rom is the closest to normal CM7 without any themes or graphical changes? Would it be Tytung's NexusHD2?

nickclarke said:
What problem are you having? (former serial ROM flasher!!!!)
Are you using HD2 Toolkit, makes life a lot simpler for flashing ROMS etc
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Well the problem i am having now is that i can't get ANYTHING not even an original HD2 rom to update onto my phone...The HD2 toolkit is the MAGLDR CMW and SPL thing right?