I have been a long time member and supporter of windows mobile. I think I have hit my threshold though. This "pure", is pure; pure crap. From the cheap ass plastic, bluish case to the horrible AT&T branded rom that comes with it. Yes I have tried all the different roms out there right now but they cant help the build quality on this thing. I should have kept my Touch HD T8285. The phone aspect is worthless. Granted it could be the network. This is my second unit after the first one was basically a paper weight. Now I have 3 days left to decide to keep it or get something else. I am really at a crossroads. My loyalty and support is to this incredible community, but this phone makes me want to punch myself. I dont want to go to the dark side (apple), but I am running out of options right now. Your feedback.
I think the build quality on the Pure is great. Edges and buttons match up perfectly, it has a solid feel, no flexing or squeaking, good to the touch. I have no problem with the build at all.
Only thing I don't really like is the plastic, but the pure is designed to be ultra small and lightweight. I suppose if you don't like the housing you could always swap it out for a new third-party housing when they're available. Maybe there will be a carbon or titanium Pure housing.
As for ROMs, the AT&T one was pure bloat. I ditched that after a week. I'm now running Dutty's Holy Grail R1 ROM, which runs really well on the Pure. Surprisingly well. Try it out. You might change your mind about keeping the Pure.
Dutty's is pretty good. I love my Pure. I came from a Fuze and while the keyboard was nice for internet, it made the phone feel flimsy.
The Pure is actually really nice. I was looking at the HD 8285, but the screen size on the Pure is really nice, IMO. I'm a chef from the raphael forums so I don't use many other roms, but I did try a few to get a good feel for it.
Energyroms and Dutty's are always good.
i think the pure is a real nice phone. feels great in hand and everything runs great. i ditched the att rom from day 1. i was tossing between the tilt 2 and pure. i too came from the fuze and i hardly ever used the keyboard and thats why i went with the pure. no regrets at all so far. hopefully you can find something good about this phone in the next few days.
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I have been a long time member and supporter of windows mobile. I think I have hit my threshold though. This "pure", is pure; pure crap. From the cheap ass plastic, bluish case to the horrible AT&T branded rom that comes with it. Yes I have tried all the different roms out there right now but they cant help the build quality on this thing. I should have kept my Touch HD T8285. The phone aspect is worthless. Granted it could be the network. This is my second unit after the first one was basically a paper weight. Now I have 3 days left to decide to keep it or get something else. I am really at a crossroads. My loyalty and support is to this incredible community, but this phone makes me want to punch myself. I dont want to go to the dark side (apple), but I am running out of options right now. Your feedback.
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Did you PM me about dropping your HD for the Pure? Never mind it was RAP5 who PM'd me. Sorry.
Sorry to here about that. Get rid of the Pure and spend the cash and get the original unlocked TD2. Feels nice and solid. not plasticky like the Pure or Get that HD back. ANDROID MAN. IT's running on it. If anything spend $520 and get an Unlocked HERO (The Original and Best Looking HERO) then get the Cheap $10 internet and enjoy.
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I have been a long time member and supporter of windows mobile. I think I have hit my threshold though. This "pure", is pure; pure crap. From the cheap ass plastic, bluish case to the horrible AT&T branded rom that comes with it. Yes I have tried all the different roms out there right now but they cant help the build quality on this thing. I should have kept my Touch HD T8285. The phone aspect is worthless. Granted it could be the network. This is my second unit after the first one was basically a paper weight. Now I have 3 days left to decide to keep it or get something else. I am really at a crossroads. My loyalty and support is to this incredible community, but this phone makes me want to punch myself. I dont want to go to the dark side (apple), but I am running out of options right now. Your feedback.
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Hate to see anyone give up on a phone so early..But I sold my Pure and kept the 8285. I will get another Pure, as I am not convinced this is a Pure Crap phone...not yet. It's got to be the AT&T software, choking the phone out of it's capabilities. I really liked the slim form and light weitht, fits easier in pockets than the 8285. Voice quality was very good and emails came over quick. I didn't keep it long enough to compare it to the HD but I also kept the HD.
I know what you mean about the Pure, I have an X1, and decided to get the Pure while my X1 was undergoing a warranty repair. The warranty stuff went quickly, so although I purchased the Pure, I've only used it for a week. Here are my thoughts.
I thought the housing felt cheap at first, but then the fact the phone was so light grew on me. Nonetheless, I feel we are getting mifed on our hardware. We get an old processor, a screen that is still kind of small, and why is the phone so damned thick??? My year old X1 is just 1 or 2 mm thicker, and the Moto Droid is thinner. Both phones have keyboards, and the Pure does not...
I know I'll get flamed for this man, but given the price of the Pure as compared to the iPhone, I'm considering exchanging it for an iPhone... I'll still have my X1, and I can probably sell the iPhone for more than the Pure on eBay.
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I previously had the 8125 (Wizard) and 8525 (Hermes) phones... And I love my Pure. I like all the built-in features that I used to use third-party software for:
o Tab Manager/Calendar events on Today screen (pocketbreeze)
o Weather on Today screen (pocketweather)
o Nice task manager and program launcher (iLauncher)
o Easy access to world times (CityTime)
I also wanted a smaller, thinner phone to carry around in my pocket and a bigger screen, don't really need the keyboard. Got all that in the Pure.
Now I may be looking to upgrade if the HD2 does make it to the US... but for now, I'm very happy !
I'm not even sure I would ditch my Pure for an HD2. Of course it's awesome, but it's also huge. The Pure fits perfectly in the bottom of my pocket. The HD2 is really so large and so wafer thin that it might get a lot of twisting and tortional abuse while in a pocket. I can only imagine leaning forward to stand up, and hearing the HD2 crack.
The HD2 seems to me to be more of a mobile internet device than a phone. I'll take a look at it, that's for sure, but I'm guessing it'll be too large for my taste and I'll probably stick with my Pure, which I absolutely love.
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I'm not even sure I would ditch my Pure for an HD2. Of course it's awesome, but it's also huge. The Pure fits perfectly in the bottom of my pocket. The HD2 is really so large and so wafer thin that it might get a lot of twisting and tortional abuse while in a pocket. I can only imagine leaning forward to stand up, and hearing the HD2 crack.
The HD2 seems to me to be more of a mobile internet device than a phone. I'll take a look at it, that's for sure, but I'm guessing it'll be too large for my taste and I'll probably stick with my Pure, which I absolutely love.
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I find the HD to be a perfect size. The HD2 is slightly bigger and may or maynot be a problem. But it is thinner than the TD2 which is nice. I was expecting my TD2 to be thicker than what it is but would love for it to be thinner. I'll just wait till the spring for the next gen TD and android phones instead of juping ship and getting an HD2 I may not like.
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I know what you mean about the Pure, I have an X1, and decided to get the Pure while my X1 was undergoing a warranty repair. The warranty stuff went quickly, so although I purchased the Pure, I've only used it for a week. Here are my thoughts.
I thought the housing felt cheap at first, but then the fact the phone was so light grew on me. Nonetheless, I feel we are getting mifed on our hardware. We get an old processor, a screen that is still kind of small, and why is the phone so damned thick??? My year old X1 is just 1 or 2 mm thicker, and the Moto Droid is thinner. Both phones have keyboards, and the Pure does not...
I know I'll get flamed for this man, but given the price of the Pure as compared to the iPhone, I'm considering exchanging it for an iPhone... I'll still have my X1, and I can probably sell the iPhone for more than the Pure on eBay.
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Well it is official I traded in my pure for an iphone 3gs. Yes the iphone is wider, heavier, but it works. I hate to say it but it is a great device. I am very sasd to be leaving the forums but the pure was just the last straw. The phone reception between the pure and the iphone was a night and day difference. We tested it in the store with the manager. I dont know why the signal strength was so different if both devices are quad band?? Anyway my best wishes to all pure owners, if you are under the 30 days you might want to try the dark side a try (apple). HTC can no longer keep carrying the weight of windows mobile alone with there touchflo/sense. Microsft really needs to provide a decent platform to compete with the likes of apple.
I was offered a trade for my Evo and 100 bucks for an Epic and the money isn't really THAT much of an issue but I wanted to know would I regret it in terms of not as many roms for support for the Epic or is the community as large and as Nice.
I did enjoy holding on in the store and if you look at my past posts I'm not a troll trying to start a debate I just want honest opinions. Would you go with the epic if you owned and Evo and why?
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I was offered a trade for my Evo and 100 bucks for an Epic and the money isn't really THAT much of an issue but I wanted to know would I regret it in terms of not as many roms for support for the Epic or is the community as large and as Nice.
I did enjoy holding on in the store and if you look at my past posts I'm not a troll trying to start a debate I just want honest opinions. Would you go with the epic if you owned and Evo and why?
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-Faster processer
-Better screen
-3d Games, all games play MUCH smoother.
-Qwerty keyboard is the best
-Fits in pocket better
-If you like sense use launcher pro
-rated #1 Android phone by PCmag, CNET
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-Faster processer
-Better screen
-3d Games, all games play MUCH smoother.
-Qwerty keyboard is the best
-Fits in pocket better
-If you like sense use launcher pro
-rated #1 Android phone by PCmag, CNET
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Okay, I think i'm going to go with it. I'm a phone junkie anyway and am willing to go with something else. I am just nervous about getting burned over the lack of development on this section for the phone. Are there any cool mods for the Epic?
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Okay, I think i'm going to go with it. I'm a phone junkie anyway and am willing to go with something else. I am just nervous about getting burned over the lack of development on this section for the phone. Are there any cool mods for the Epic?
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While we may not have as many devs tha evo users have, we do have some very good devs that do amazing work. We don't have 100 roms and kernels but we don't need 100, the roms we have are blazing. If you can i'd pick up the epic over the evo
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I just came from the EVO a week ago. 2 things I don't like so far about the Epic are the charger plug being on the top of the phone and selecting text is not nearly as easy as on the EVO. The main thing that irritates me is the charger port placement. When I use the phone while charging the cord dangles annoyingly in my face. The text selecting is not going to be an issue once I'm rooted of course. Other than those things the Epic is a far superior phone imo. To add to the other post of pros, I'm getting much better battery life with the Epic compared to the EVO.
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I just came from the EVO. 2 things I don't like so far about the Epic are the charger plug being on the top of the phone and selecting text is not nearly as easy as on the EVO. The main thing that irritates me is the charger port placement. When I use the phone while charging the cord dangles annoyingly in my face. The text selecting is not going to be an issue once I'm rooted of course. Other than those things the Epic is a far superior phone imo. To add to the other post of pros, I'm getting much better battery life with the Epic compared to the EVO.
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Awesome I think i'm going to make this deal happen before the guy gets second thoughts lol. I agree about it not needing as many roms as long as I can play my Galcon and Angry birds on it i'm good.
I really don't care for a physical keyboard as I haven't had a phone with one since the samsung instinct (went from the Instinct to the s30 to the Hero to the iPhone to the Nexus One to the Evo. And throw in a couple of Blackberries here and there along the way. lol) Swype and even swift keyboard work quicker for me than a physical keyboard. Maybe i'll get re aquatinted with it now.
I too like to change phone often. I was on the exact same boat a couple weeks ago when someone offered to trade my EVO for an Epic. The only thing we kept was our memory cards. In the beginning I was regretting as the charger cable got in my way, less development, and felt less sturdy. But after warming up to it a definetly prefer it. The screen is gorgeous and the hummingbird is defintely faster then snapdragon stock. I do miss 2.2 but it should come in november. Noobnl is also working on porting cynogen 6.1 so that's exciting news on the rom front. Just my 2cents. Enjoy!
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Awesome I think i'm going to make this deal happen before the guy gets second thoughts lol. I agree about it not needing as many roms as long as I can play my Galcon and Angry birds on it i'm good.
I really don't care for a physical keyboard as I haven't had a phone with one since the samsung instinct (went from the Instinct to the s30 to the Hero to the iPhone to the Nexus One to the Evo. And throw in a couple of Blackberries here and there along the way. lol) Swype and even swift keyboard work quicker for me than a physical keyboard. Maybe i'll get re aquatinted with it now.
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I got my evo on launch day. Before the end if its days it was running cm6 rc1. U got my epic on release and it us far superior then running my evo with cm6. I haven't looked back now regretted making the switch. I think u used the physical key board once. I love having swype put installed. I didn't like how the swype beta worked on the evo
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The Epic is better then the evo in specs across the board, the rest is personal preferences.
im coming over from an evo and i dont regret it one bit..love the phone..even if its not on froyo yet i feel it performs better than the evo..i wasnt too big of a fan of touchwiz but with the launcher options that isnt even an issue..as far as the roms yes there arent many, but theres a few gems out right now and from what i understand the devs are hanging back until the update to froyo..so in my opinion i would say yes trade it for the epic but what i like you may not like
Well the deal was done and the selling point was the Evo section and showing the guy how to download rom after rom after rom for the Evo. I felt like putting my child up for adoption when he was holding my Evo and now the Epic is sitting in the corner like a pets first night in your home. Warming up to it in baby steps.
I do love the physical keyboard though. I think it was already broken in by the guy so it didn't feel stiff at all and my fat thumbs were having a field day. Now the next debate in my mind will be to Zagg shield or not to Zagg sheild. I wish they were universal because I wouldn't have given mine to him.
The case around it makes it bigger but has saved mine. Never used a screen prot. I've beat this thing up and havn't been able to hurt the screen. Crazy strong. I love the smooth glass feel. Can't do the protector. Good thing they used special glass.
The USB at the top is a hit and miss. I Never really ever charge it because I just switch out from my second Batt. I get a way better charge using the ext charger. Hold 100% for a good hour. But I can see it being a pain while using it.
But... if your plugging it in for the computer or in your car. Top is best. It will sit on the seat or in a slot/cup holder better.
I recommend a second Battery for every one.
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I recommend a second Battery for every one.
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Definitely agree. I picked up another one recently and it has been great. I use mine very very heavily and it usually only lasts around 9 hours. That's with heavy listening of music, texting, emails, etc... Definitely loving the fact that I never have to have it sit and charge
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I felt like putting my child up for adoption when he was holding my Evo and now the Epic is sitting in the corner like a pets first night in your home. Warming up to it in baby steps. QUOTE]
Lol I know what you mean. I had my Evo for awhile and bought an Epic a week after release. I switched back and forth on a regular basis between the Evo and Epic and always felt like I was cheating on the Evo. Finally made a committment today and sold my Evo for $425 and stuck with my mistress.
The only things I really miss about the Evo are some of the HTC apps as well as the sense widgets, mainly the email widget. Dont get me wrong the Evo was a great phone, but the Epic has a lot of features that won me over. Mainly the keyboard for playing games (Punch Out FTW!), the overall speed difference, and swype. I had swype on my evo, but there were always issues with it.
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@a454nova: I did get an extra battery in the deal which was great for me. And I just realized how much better it is to have it charging from the top is in the car as i'm always driving. thanks for the obvious but I was oblivious to tip.
@chino0131: I have gotten used to not having them with the MIUI Rom for evo. Which was my favorite with the exception of Myns version 2.2. If you end up going from an Epic to an Evo I highly suggest the Myn rom. I also just got the dag-on desire animated flip clock on my evo. lol. I am going to miss sense and I must say the "Epic is better" is hogwash. Without the stats you wouldn't notice anything. But I am very happy with my Epic.
On another note, I'm still on the fence about getting a shield still. I'm going to look up the glass to see if it really is scratch resistant and what not. Can't wait for Froyo!
I reccomend getting a realook or clarivue screen protector over zagg. Zagg is thicker and more durable but the realook amd clarivue are super clear and thin and don't compromise the look of the screen at all and they feel almost as smooth as the glass screen. The screen is one of main selling point of the phone so u don't wanna comprimise the clarrity of the screen.
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I reccomend getting a realook or clarivue screen protector over zagg. Zagg is thicker and more durable but the realook amd clarivue are super clear and thin and don't compromise the look of the screen at all and they feel almost as smooth as the glass screen. The screen is one of main selling point of the phone so u don't wanna comprimise the clarrity of the screen.
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Where can I purchase these screen protectors? Are they only for sale online?
I went from an Evo to an Epic about a month ago or something. Overall I like the Epic, I'm just really starting to miss flash 10. I watch TV shows online all the time and can't do that anymore without froyo.
I think the Epic has better quality pictures. The screen is nice. The battery is longer, but I'm still waiting for my 2nd and 3rd batteries to come in the mail so I don't have to sit by an outlet before the end of the day.
My main selling point on the epic was the keyboard, which I sometimes get annoyed with when it doesnt recognize all the letters I type.
I had a screen protector on mine, but it keeps falling off so I finally just left it off. The way the glass feels and how the screen is unhindered is so much better, but I'm also paranoid of it getting scratched. Tough decision.
Overall, I'm dying for CM or a port of it. I like AOSP much more than any other launcher.
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Where can I purchase these screen protectors? Are they only for sale online?
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Yea online is ur best bet. They not too expensive and u can google coupon codes usually. These screen protectors are static cling so no sticky residue and no need for water solution/messy install like zagg.
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Where can I purchase these screen protectors? Are they only for sale online?
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I put an eXtreme guard protector on my Epic, had the same kind on my moment.
If you put it on well, you can hardly tell its there. It's the kind that goes on with a little soapy water.They're $2.49 with free shipping now, I think I paid $3.99.
Has a much better feel then ones that are just stick on, again you can hardly tell it's there even when using it.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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Good point, I did buy the N-S for the "pure" Android experience, and not having to run custom roms/themes, and million downloads and installs, just to get what this gives me right out of the box, stock. And with all those custom roms, and stuff, the EVO seemed a little more sluggish to me, than stock Sense UI.
Plus this screen is just so awesome, I love it. And really like the thinness and light weight of it compared to the heavy EVO.
Looks you are actually having second thoughts on keeping T-Mobile rather than device.
I've been on TMobile since 1998 and I don't think I've ever experienced a dropped call. Sprint as my work phone the last two years and never had one either. What happens? Phone just hangs up? Just bizarre to me
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As long as you don't break the screen it should be very durable. The great thing about a plastic housing is that you can treat it like crap--a replacement back will probably run $5-$10, which is cheaper than any case you can buy. Metal phone housings are tres nice, but you're always paranoid about scratching or denting it (which, besides bringing tears to your eyes, lowers resale value).
My philosophy has always been that since I look at the screen and hold the housing, I'd prefer a phone with a great screen over a great housing (it's nice to have both, but you right now you have to choose).
That being said, I'd stick to the Evo. An Android phone loses the majority of its functionality if you can't get a signal, so in your case the Evo is the better choice (or get an Epic, which has SAMOLED and the same CPU/GPU as NS).
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You own an Evo already. Its the most feature rich phone on the market. NS is awesome for me. But if I had to choose just one id keep my Evo
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The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
Zorachus said:
The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me the most. I have an office in the basement, and sometimes down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone never worked down here, or maybe 10% at best, Sprint was 75% and very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 30-40%, not terrible, I do get some texts down here, but not great like Sprint either.
I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
Zorachus said:
Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
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instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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Thanks for the info, but that kind of sucks then, if it drops the call cold turkey once you walk out of the WiFi range ? Phone hardware can't handle the smooth transition from WiFi to cellular at the same time I guess ?
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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Today after 3 days with the Nexus-S, I agree with you. My EVO feels heavy like a brick now, and the screen color is so washed out and bland compared to Super AMOLED< no comparison. Plus the battery life on the N-S does seem to be much better than the EVO's so far. And the icing on the cake, T-Mobile is cheaper per month, for me a good $30 cheaper.
Plus T-Mobile seems to be the best Android carrier, they seem to get the best and latest phones pretty quick. They were first ever Android carrier with the G1, and then the first with the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S. And I prefer the "Nexus" idea, getting the untainted OS, sort of like Apple with the iPhone. Just buy a new Nexus every Christmas to have the latest and most pure Android phone.
Sure there will be new dual core faster phones early next year. I rather wait for the Nexus-3, by then dual core will be done beta testing on other phones, and the Android OS will be really optimized for it by next Winter. I wait for the dual core Nexus, not the any ol dual core coming out right away next year, no thank on the bugs and issues that may pop up. For now I am a happy Nexus owner. Will just plan to buy a new Nexus every year for now.
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I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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Personally, I find the Nexus to be the perfect size after using the EVO for so long. Often times I found myself having to stretch my hand to reach the notification bar, and the phone just seems too wide now. As far as the "build quality," my EVO's had unattractive light leakage from day one while the Nexus is perfect in every way. I think a lot of people have gotten stuck in the "heavier = better quality" rut. Just because the Nexus is light doesn't mean it isn't solid.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I will make final decision by Monday, after a full weekend with the Nexus-S, but leaning on keeping her
Nexus-S;
- T-Mobile is cheaper, almost $30 per month.
- Super AMOLED screen is amazing
- Lightweight and compact size easy to keep in shirt pocket, but still good size 4" screen
- Hummingbird processor is smoother at pulling apps and scrolling, not choppy
- Pure Android OS, no need for major custom roms, will get Honeycomb right away
EVO;
- Large 4.3" screen is easier to text on, and read
- Sprint service might be slightly better than T-Mobile
- 4G ( but never used but a few times, major battery )
Zorachus said:
The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
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Be aware that AMOLED can be a serious battery killer. Try to play Angry Birds and you'll know what I am saying.
480*800*3(color per pixel) light together can draw power like crazy.
Is it just me or is the nexus just sexiest phone. not trolling just every time i see one i want it. best looking by far.
I remove mine from its case as soon as I get home, just can't stand its looks being spoiled It might also just be me but it feels seriously slick as well!
I like the simplicity of it. No chrome, bezels, etc. Not that those are necessarily bad things but depending on the design, sometimes it gets cluttered.
the nexus is freaking beautiful. prob the nicest phone i've ever had or seen. i have it out of the case now just to enjoy using it naked! i actually hate this though because i keep avoiding upgrading to a new phone cause none are as good as the n1, but at some point i will have to switch!
I agree. Nexus One is one of the sexiest looking devices out there :drools:
I was real sad that I had to sell my Nexus One because of the T-mobile/Att merger but, outside of a white iPhone 4, no other phone even comes close
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I was real sad that I had to sell my Nexus One because of the T-mobile/Att merger but, outside of a white iPhone 4, no other phone even comes close
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You didn't have to sell your phone because of the merger, not yet at least. The merger hasn't even started yet. Maybe in a year or two it will be necessary, but a lot will change over that time.
It's extremely sexy! Just ask the girls at AVN!
I was in love with my vibrant--then I got an N1 for my other line and I kinda neglect the sammy goodness now. The vibe is definitely jealous.
I like it but I think it would look so much better with the G2's trackpad that lights up!
If there ever is an HTC nexus 2 I hope they simply update and refine the Nexus Ones look and features but don't do something extreme and for the love of God keep the damn trackpad, or a trackball.
another one that agree with you
AbsoluteDesignz said:
If there ever is an HTC nexus 2 I hope they simply update and refine the Nexus Ones look and features but don't do something extreme and for the love of God keep the damn trackpad, or a trackball.
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i agree with you, but it wont happen. HTC will do every single thing opposite of what we want, and then do things nobody would have cared about in the first place. i'd bet money on it!!
i'm sure they'll remove the trackball and give no notifications, then make some solid back so no extended battery possible.
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same here
I have to agree with you and have said this in other forums... the N1 is the sexiest consumer electronics device so far in my opinion. I like the industrial design of the iPad 1 and the iPhone 4 a lot, but this phone just feels so good in the hand and its metal casing and soft touch accents make me never put a case on it just because I love the slim form factor in my hand and pocket too much. only thing I did was keep an invisibleShield on it at all times.
I think I actually prefer the look of the a HTC Pyramid a little more than the Nexus One. The simplicity of the Nexus S has also caught my eye. Overall the Nexus One may win... however, if Apple made a cell-phone sized iPad, I think I would prefer that to anything else hands-down. The original HTC Desire is also nice looking...
I love my Nexus One!
It's Teflon® coating looks simply stunning.
I probably won't upgrade until HTC Pyramid is out and about.
Up until now only the nexus one and the pyramid made me call them "sexy".
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If there ever is an HTC nexus 2 I hope they simply update and refine the Nexus Ones look and features but don't do something extreme and for the love of God keep the damn trackpad, or a trackball.
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I like the Pyramid design. It's very similar. The Thunderbolt/Aspire are nearly as nice as my N1. I really like my case it shows off the front, but it's still not as sleak and nexy as it is w/o it!
I love the trackball. It will never be the same w/o it!
Those samsung phones are Uugly!
Love the teflon coating ... very unique.
No doubt when I got it I bought it along with ATT captivate. I almost wanted to sell my n1 over my captivate. I was crazy I tell you crazy. But yeah phone is not too big but perfect. I like it Alot cuz you can mod. I love modding. Cars, bikes and my phone. Lol.
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