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More than one model of the g2?

I've looked around at pictures of the g2, and some of them are not the same. I've also read a little bit that different carriers offer different amounts of ram. Perhaps someone can tell me if I'm reading wrong, or if there're really multiple versions of the g2. Aside from that, if there is more than one version, which one is the best?
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Its because there is no G2. There are multiple android Devices... But a search for G2 pulls you up a bunch of rumors and nothing legit. If on TMO there is the G1 and soon will be the Mytouch this is not the G2 as everyone calls it.

As noted there is not G2, but there are two differently speced HTC Magics
HTC - Products - HTC Magic - Specification
And the one that TMobile is/will be selling

and Rodgers (RAM: 288 MB, HSDPA/UMTS dual-band (850 and 1900MHZ )
and ION (RAM: 196Mb, 1700mhz/2100mhz (WCDMA))

it seems I'm getting the gsm/gprs version. Does this mean it's the 288 version?
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sharky34 said:
and Rodgers (RAM: 288 MB, HSDPA/UMTS dual-band (850 and 1900MHZ )
and ION (RAM: 196Mb, 1700mhz/2100mhz (WCDMA))
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I have a Google ION and I have 288MB of RAM, not the 196 as you have quoted.

bex said:
I have a Google ION and I have 288MB of RAM, not the 196 as you have quoted.
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can you print out the output of "cat /proc/meminfo" from adb shell please.
If you are using useful switchers to get that info, thats showing the size of the flash not RAM.

bex said:
I have a Google ION and I have 288MB of RAM, not the 196 as you have quoted.
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No you do not have 288MB of RAM in your Google Ion.
I have a Google Ion as well and it only has 192MB of RAM (98908 kB after boot).
What you are seeing when checking SD card & phone storage is the ROM.

Ok guys, I stand corrected...Android / Linux thing is new to me, and sort of confusing.
Thanks for the clarification and leads to a question, how do I get to issue these commands ADB PUSH many more have been used on this forum, to my ION from a mac?

As easy as I can explain.
There are HTC branded versions such as the Rogers, Nordic, TIM, etc
There are Google branded versions like Vodafone.
Also thanks for pointing out that there is no such thing as a G2. There is the Google Ion and the HTC Magic and the Tmobile MyTouch 3G is just a rebranded Google Ion.
To answer your question, you use boot camp to shrink your HFS+ partition and create say 32gb free for Ubuntu and then google how to install Ubuntu on your mac. It works on any Intel Mac including unibody like mine.

I have one from Proximus (my employer), an operator from Belgium and partner of Vodafone.... the magic is fully "googled" but also has 288 RAM, exchange support and quickoffice on it...
Back of the cover has the "htc" logo instead of the "google" logo
cheers
B

want to buy a HD2.Help!!

I know that there are two version for HD2:T version and htc version.The T version's RAM and ROM is larger than the htc's.But I wonder why the T version's price is cheaper than the htc's.And some people told me that the T version is unstable and can't install some ROM.(By the way,I'm from China.If I buy the HD2,I need brushing machine.)
I'm hesitated for a long time:which version should I buy?
So,what's your guys' opinion?

The t-mobile version is cheaper because t-mobile lowers the price for starting a 2 year service contract. The import (I'm in the US) version is purchased without a contract and is therefore unsubsidized. From what I've gathered the two variations are nearly identical in performance, build quality etc.

Thanks!This is my first oversea thread and I'm so glad that you give me a reply!

I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.

yeoldgreat1 said:
I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.
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T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2

rexzooly said:
T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2
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The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.

rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Well FFFFFFFFF to them lol

rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
EDIT:
It seems though AT&T is cracking down on NON-AT&T devices though ....

watcher64 said:
Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
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Thanks for the details maybe I should get my hands on a US one for a hands on check

TMO HD2 vs HTC HD2; which one runs android better

I am planning to buy a HD2 just to run android on it. I have the option to buy TMob HD2 (bigger RAM and ROM) and the HTC HD2 (smaller RAM and ROM).
Am sure that almost all the Android ROMs work on both phones. I just want to know, which of these runs android better?
I really like Desire HD but its currently very expensive here (~US$ 710) and I don't want to spend that much. whereas HD2 (both Tmob and HTC) is available for ~US$ 435. So am thinking of buying HD2.

hsnmz said:
I am planning to buy a HD2 just to run android on it. I have the option to buy TMob HD2 (bigger RAM and ROM) and the HTC HD2 (smaller RAM and ROM).
Am sure that almost all the Android ROMs work on both phones. I just want to know, which of these runs android better?
I really like Desire HD but its currently very expensive here (~US$ 710) and I don't want to spend that much. whereas HD2 (both Tmob and HTC) is available for ~US$ 435. So am thinking of buying HD2.
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If you're from the US, you should get a TMO HD2 for sure, they're the only ones you'll have 3G possibilities with, and you have more internal memory. EDIT: That's assuming you have TMO as provider. If you don't, you won't get 3G on your TMO phone.
If you live outside the US, you'll need an HTC (well, they're both HTC of course) if you want 3G, but you can still use a TMO for everything but 3G if you really like to have that 512mb extra internal memory (not the best choice if you ask me).
If you're Australian, I'm not really sure what you should do because I think they have an even different version.

StephanV said:
If you're from the US, you should get a TMO HD2 for sure, they're the only ones you'll have 3G possibilities with, and you have more internal memory. EDIT: That's assuming you have TMO as provider. If you don't, you won't get 3G on your TMO phone.
If you live outside the US, you'll need an HTC (well, they're both HTC of course) if you want 3G, but you can still use a TMO for everything but 3G if you really like to have that 512mb extra internal memory (not the best choice if you ask me).
If you're Australian, I'm not really sure what you should do because I think they have an even different version.
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not sure where ur from , if your from ASIA T mob is the deal coz u get 3G!!, well u can actualy gte one on XDA for as low as 250$

If you are in the US and have ATT, get the Telstra/Australia version as it has support for ATT's 850mhz 3g band I think. Just depends on where you're located and what carrier you have. I would go with the version that I could receive 3g service on.

Get TMOUS HD2

I don't know what you guys are thinkin but all hd2's are tmobile in america. so if your from another country than this question is legit but if your in america all hd2's are htc and tmobile branded.

sherlockpwnz said:
I don't know what you guys are thinkin but all hd2's are tmobile in america. so if your from another country than this question is legit but if your in america all hd2's are htc and tmobile branded.
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Yeah, but you can still order one from Australia, which will allow you to get 3g with at&t in USA.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

thanks for the suggestions guys. I am from Pakistan and there is no 3G here. my only concern is the performance of both variants. with more RAM and ROM, does TMO HD2 perform better as compared to the HTC HD2 while using android?

For Australian HD2 be aware the "Next G" version is model 9193 ( 850 - 2100mhz), you can still get the 8585 model that has different frequencies that are 900Mhz - 2100mhz. This is not great for Australia as there is the Next G network from Telstra (works well everywhere with minimum 3G but H in metro) and the 3G network (3G in metro areas and normal edge network elsewhere).
You need to check which model you are getting as there has been an influx of 8585 models available on ebay.

I'm in the US and had the Euro version of the HD2 several months before getting my TMUS phone. I tried every Winmo ROM available on both, finding no discernable difference in performance. I can't address any potential performance differences in Android however as I sold my Euro phone prior to Android builds being introduced.

hsnmz said:
thanks for the suggestions guys. I am from Pakistan and there is no 3G here. my only concern is the performance of both variants. with more RAM and ROM, does TMO HD2 perform better as compared to the HTC HD2 while using android?
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There will be no difference when running android. Only difference between phones is 3g radio and rom size. Rom size will give more storage space once android can be installed on rom, but there will be no difference in performance.
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zarathustrax said:
There will be no difference when running android. Only difference between phones is 3g radio and rom size. Rom size will give more storage space once android can be installed on rom, but there will be no difference in performance.
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thnks for the info. now I will get the one I find cheaper.

[Q] EU user needs info for TMOUS devices

Hello everyone
Here's what I know about the differences between the EU and US models of the HD2:
It's 1.5mm taller.
It's branded to AT&T.
It's got 1024MB ROM.
So what's stopping me from buying one and using it in the UK? Are there hardware limitations, like for example the baseband not working in my country?
I suppose if this device was any better than the EU version then we'd all be desperate to have one but i've never known of anyone who wanted one...
Views/thoughts/opinions welcome...
Dan

It's branded "T-Mobile" btw
It's 3g frequency operates on 1700 and 2100. Unless your carrier works on 1700 or 2100, you won't get 3g.
The reason as to why people want it, is that it has a lot of internal storage. Especially in android it is most appreciative for it eliminates the need for someone to partition their sd card to expand the amount of apps one can install to their phone.

Cheers, not much point then with A2SD.

dkl_uk said:
Cheers, not much point then with A2SD.
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If you by. a new one from T-Mobile it comes with a 16 GB SD card. Now. if you are going to by one from e-bay or criegslist just make sure the seller is not going to keep the 16GB SD card. you could probably find another SD card for fairly good price to if you search the web, but make sure it is a repuable site that you buy it from cause there is some sites out there selling bad and bogus ones.

Hi,
I've been using a TMOUS HD2 for nearly a year in the UK now and have had no problems at all.... To be honest, I find that the US model is great for flashing some of the newer DesireHD NAND roms, as they don't leave much space for apps on the euro version, and not all apps support a2sd.... if you get the chance, go for it,, i'm very happy!

[Q] HTC HD2 T-Mobile US - are they all the same?

I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?

elgar said:
I own HTC HD2 from Europe. It has only 512Mb of flashable memory. I want to buy a T-Mobile HD2 from ebay. But when I was reading descriptions, some phone's ids were HTC Touch Pro. And I have seen a whole few of those at ebay. Does it mean that the sellers didn't know better, or that under the name HD2 could be a couple of family lines? Also, some description said that the camera was 3mp.
So, my worry is that trying to buy a T-Mobile HTC HD2 with 1Gb internal memory, I might end up with something different than the original T-Mobile HTC HD2.
Or maybe I am just dealing with sellers who don't know much about phones, and I don't need to worry?
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Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)

Thank you very much!

hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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plus one .

hakuchi18v said:
Be careful you don't end up with a different phone all together..
Tmobile US HD2 has the same specs as the Europe one except for the Nand Space like you said...
Only one model US HD2
5MP
4.3"
Tmobile AWS (3G) etc...
The touch pro is a model before the hd2 so stick with items that have htc HD2 and the pictures (better to see the actual item before buying)
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Plus one also

I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.

also make sure you're not getting a Chinese knock off.

robearg said:
I am in Canada, on the Bell network. I know there are some differences between US and Canada because of different networks. Which model would I look for, to get an unlocked HD2? Thanks.
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I believe you'd be better off with the telstra (Aussie network) version...
This would allow you to use 3g on Rogers... but I'm not sure about bell. They may use different bands.
I'm not 100% on the details but do a search on telstra hd2 Canada etc etc and you'll get some more reliable info...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......

It'll work on the Bell network as well, as Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same bands ( though Bell/Telus and Rogers have different networks).
Just make sure you're getting the Telstra 9193 model.