I've looked around at pictures of the g2, and some of them are not the same. I've also read a little bit that different carriers offer different amounts of ram. Perhaps someone can tell me if I'm reading wrong, or if there're really multiple versions of the g2. Aside from that, if there is more than one version, which one is the best?
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Its because there is no G2. There are multiple android Devices... But a search for G2 pulls you up a bunch of rumors and nothing legit. If on TMO there is the G1 and soon will be the Mytouch this is not the G2 as everyone calls it.
As noted there is not G2, but there are two differently speced HTC Magics
HTC - Products - HTC Magic - Specification
And the one that TMobile is/will be selling
and Rodgers (RAM: 288 MB, HSDPA/UMTS dual-band (850 and 1900MHZ )
and ION (RAM: 196Mb, 1700mhz/2100mhz (WCDMA))
it seems I'm getting the gsm/gprs version. Does this mean it's the 288 version?
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sharky34 said:
and Rodgers (RAM: 288 MB, HSDPA/UMTS dual-band (850 and 1900MHZ )
and ION (RAM: 196Mb, 1700mhz/2100mhz (WCDMA))
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I have a Google ION and I have 288MB of RAM, not the 196 as you have quoted.
bex said:
I have a Google ION and I have 288MB of RAM, not the 196 as you have quoted.
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can you print out the output of "cat /proc/meminfo" from adb shell please.
If you are using useful switchers to get that info, thats showing the size of the flash not RAM.
bex said:
I have a Google ION and I have 288MB of RAM, not the 196 as you have quoted.
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No you do not have 288MB of RAM in your Google Ion.
I have a Google Ion as well and it only has 192MB of RAM (98908 kB after boot).
What you are seeing when checking SD card & phone storage is the ROM.
Ok guys, I stand corrected...Android / Linux thing is new to me, and sort of confusing.
Thanks for the clarification and leads to a question, how do I get to issue these commands ADB PUSH many more have been used on this forum, to my ION from a mac?
As easy as I can explain.
There are HTC branded versions such as the Rogers, Nordic, TIM, etc
There are Google branded versions like Vodafone.
Also thanks for pointing out that there is no such thing as a G2. There is the Google Ion and the HTC Magic and the Tmobile MyTouch 3G is just a rebranded Google Ion.
To answer your question, you use boot camp to shrink your HFS+ partition and create say 32gb free for Ubuntu and then google how to install Ubuntu on your mac. It works on any Intel Mac including unibody like mine.
I have one from Proximus (my employer), an operator from Belgium and partner of Vodafone.... the magic is fully "googled" but also has 288 RAM, exchange support and quickoffice on it...
Back of the cover has the "htc" logo instead of the "google" logo
cheers
B
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I was looking into buying a new HD. Obviously I like the idea of 3G but it's simply not going to happen.
When I was reading, apparently the Austrailian version has the necc. frequencies.
So, I started looking at the Aussie version and found out that not only does it have 192 of ram compared to 512 of the Euro version, it also has only 4'ish hours of talktime compared to 6 hours of the Euro.
Guess I'm going to deal with having Edge.
Mark
Go to pdadb.net for hd spec http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1469
192mb -- user accessible ram
288mb-- total ram
512-- rom (storage memory 2xx avaiable to user)
talktime-- depends on what network you use gsm(standart) or 3g (hispeed)
orangecrush said:
I was looking into buying a new HD. Obviously I like the idea of 3G but it's simply not going to happen.
When I was reading, apparently the Austrailian version has the necc. frequencies.
So, I started looking at the Aussie version and found out that not only does it have 192 of ram compared to 512 of the Euro version, it also has only 4'ish hours of talktime compared to 6 hours of the Euro.
Guess I'm going to deal with having Edge.
Mark
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There is no "Australian version". As far as HTC is concerned, they did not even have any intention to sell it in Australia, according to someone I contacted. Later, for some reason, Telstra is selling it although Telstra is the only guy in town having 850 3G network which HD does not even support. How strange is that? May be Telstra has signed an exclusive deal to prevent the other carrier from selling it???
All the so-called Australian sellers are brining in stock from Hong Kong and China.
I just did a speedtest at
www.ozspeedtest.com
I have Virgin 3G
With Opera 9.5beta
iinet mirror Melb From Syd
600kb file
and got
time 7.06
linespeed 692kbps
download 86 kbps
Not doubting what you're saying but here's a quote from an Aussie vendor.
Product Specifications
HTC Touch 3G
• Size: 102 x 53.6 x 14.5 mm
• Weight: 96g
• Connectivity: GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz & WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps
• HSDPA 7.2 Mbps
• Software/Operating system: HTC TouchFLO with Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
• Display: 2.8 inch QVGA screen
• Camera: 3.2 megapixel
• Internal memory: 256 MB flash; 192 MB RAM
• Memory card: microSD™
• Bluetooth®: 2.0 with EDR
• GPS: GPS/AGPS
• Interface: HTC ExtUSB™ (mini-USB and audio jack in one; USB 2.0 High-Speed)
• Battery: 1100 mAh
• Talk time: WCDMA: Up to 360 minutes*** / GSM: Up to 400 minutes***
• Standby time: WCDMA: Up to 450 hours*** / GSM: Up to 365 hours***
• Chipset: Qualcomm® MSM7225™ 528 MHz
Just curious why this is different from all the other ones I've read about.
eaglesteve said:
There is no "Australian version". As far as HTC is concerned, they did not even have any intention to sell it in Australia, according to someone I contacted. Later, for some reason, Telstra is selling it although Telstra is the only guy in town having 850 3G network which HD does not even support. How strange is that? May be Telstra has signed an exclusive deal to prevent the other carrier from selling it???
All the so-called Australian sellers are brining in stock from Hong Kong and China.
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Not doubting what you're saying but here's a quote from an Aussie vendor.
Product Specifications
HTC Touch 3G
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Just curious why this is different from all the other ones I've read about.
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The Touch 3G is very different from the Touch HD
eaglesteve said:
There is no "Australian version". As far as HTC is concerned, they did not even have any intention to sell it in Australia, according to someone I contacted. Later, for some reason, Telstra is selling it although Telstra is the only guy in town having 850 3G network which HD does not even support.
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Bahahaha! You better tell that to my blackstone here infront of me running on Telstras 850Mhz NextG network.
It must be a bad blackstone supporting frequencies it's not meant to! Bad Blackstone!
Although...it does say on the box 850/2100HSDPA with 512MB Rom and 288MB Ram. It's also the T8285 unlike the original Blackstone the T8282.
Maybe I just picked up a freak of the litter? Or maybe they do have an Australian version
Moony1987 said:
Bahahaha! You better tell that to my blackstone here infront of me running on Telstras 850Mhz NextG network.
It must be a bad blackstone supporting frequencies it's not meant to! Bad Blackstone!
Although...it does say on the box 850/2100HSDPA with 512MB Rom and 288MB Ram. It's also the T8285 unlike the original Blackstone the T8282.
Maybe I just picked up a freak of the litter? Or maybe they do have an Australian version
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Well, if what you say is true, then it means that our friends in US would have 3G since many of them are on 850 HSDPA. It would be one of the best kept secrets on Blackstone.
eaglesteve said:
Well, if what you say is true, then it means that our friends in US would have 3G since many of them are on 850 HSDPA.
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Well it's true
It would be one of the best kept secrets on Blackstone.
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Not really. There are atleast two threads on this very forum regarding the Telstra version of the Blackstone.
Moony1987 said:
Well it's true
Not really. There are atleast two threads on this very forum regarding the Telstra version of the Blackstone.
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Really? I have missed reading them. Thanks for the info.
eaglesteve said:
Really? I have missed reading them. Thanks for the info.
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No worries. I was annoyed when the Blackstone was first announced with Euro 3G bands, and not 850Mhz because I wanted on on NextG! Now that's happened, I'm stoked!.
Moony1987 said:
No worries. I was annoyed when the Blackstone was first announced with Euro 3G bands, and not 850Mhz because I wanted on on NextG! Now that's happened, I'm stoked!.
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This sounds like good news for the US customers.
BTW what download speed are you getting from the NEXT G network?
According to
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Versions
the model number is different and the radio and rom are different too
k6076199 said:
According to
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Versions
the model number is different and the radio and rom are different too
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Whoever put the info for the radio has stuffed up. They've put the Rom version info in as the Radio version.
I can assure you that the Telstra Touch HD comes with radio 1. 10. 25. 25 / 52. 57. 25. 30U exactly the same as the latest one in the Euro versions of the Touch HD.
Okay. That was odd.
I just reinstalled the Telstra Rom Upgrade, and after rebooting the red numbers said the radio was 1.10.25.25/52.57.25.30H (H instead of a U). Now after the customisations installed and the phone rebooted it's showing the normal 1.10.25.25/52.57.25.30U (U instead of a H).
I've decided to take the leap from win mo to android and want to purchase the Magic as my frist android device, however I'd like some help choosing which model i want, as there a few variants..
first of all i'm on a small wireless carrier which uses t-mobiles 3g bands (1700/2100) but i would like to buy a 32a model for the extra ram..however, after some searching the models that ive seen and should be 32a ones, only have the 900/2100 hsdpa bands..
So my question is, is there a 32a variant of the Magic that also has the 1700/2100mhz hspda bands?
No one knows where or if it is even reasonably obtainable?
I cant seem to find anything and doubting if it even exists...
There is a limited edition one coming up soon with a 3.5mm headphone jack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574274
Actually you could get yourself an htc ion, the one that was given away at the Google IO conference. Its htc branded so it has the 288 ram, this is what me and a friend did and its a noticeable difference. Now when we load custom roms its a lot snappier. Your best bet would be to look on ebay.
defiantbeast said:
Actually you could get yourself an htc ion, the one that was given away at the Google IO conference. Its htc branded so it has the 288 ram, this is what me and a friend did and its a noticeable difference. Now when we load custom roms its a lot snappier. Your best bet would be to look on ebay.
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We all wish. Ions don't have 288 ram, they have 192 just like the MT3Gs. I have an Ion, they're all 192. Do some searching and you'll find confirmation and ways to check your own phone through adb.
defiantbeast said:
Actually you could get yourself an htc ion, the one that was given away at the Google IO conference. Its htc branded so it has the 288 ram, this is what me and a friend did and its a noticeable difference. Now when we load custom roms its a lot snappier. Your best bet would be to look on ebay.
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Google Ion is unfortunately hardware-identical to the MyTouch 3G. I'm pretty confident that there aren't any 32a models that support T-Mobile 3G. I wish it were easier to mix-and-match features, but unfortunately we're stuck with the models that they decided to make and there's too many variables for all combinations to be made.
I know that there are two version for HD2:T version and htc version.The T version's RAM and ROM is larger than the htc's.But I wonder why the T version's price is cheaper than the htc's.And some people told me that the T version is unstable and can't install some ROM.(By the way,I'm from China.If I buy the HD2,I need brushing machine.)
I'm hesitated for a long time:which version should I buy?
So,what's your guys' opinion?
The t-mobile version is cheaper because t-mobile lowers the price for starting a 2 year service contract. The import (I'm in the US) version is purchased without a contract and is therefore unsubsidized. From what I've gathered the two variations are nearly identical in performance, build quality etc.
Thanks!This is my first oversea thread and I'm so glad that you give me a reply!
I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.
yeoldgreat1 said:
I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.
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T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2
rexzooly said:
T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2
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The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Well FFFFFFFFF to them lol
rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
EDIT:
It seems though AT&T is cracking down on NON-AT&T devices though ....
watcher64 said:
Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
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Thanks for the details maybe I should get my hands on a US one for a hands on check
What is the difference between these phone apart from one being locked to t-mobile it is confusing me Thanks
no difference except for one runs sense while the other runs stock android. desire z might have some extra bands but internally and cosmetically nothing different
Confused me too cause im the mod for the G2 when they announced it i was a little lost
mtl171 said:
no difference except for one runs sense while the other runs stock android. desire z might have some extra bands but internally and cosmetically nothing different
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Anybody found what bands the DesireZ run on?
eXase said:
Anybody found what bands the DesireZ run on?
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Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE, dual-band HSPA/WCDMA
I hope that root and a sense rom dont take long for the g2!!!!
The two forums should probably be merged :\ Besides the fact that one comes loaded with Sense and the other not, they're identical.
Devs are dealing with the same hardware.
Edit: Oh wait, that's right. The G2 would be AWS-band for T-Mobile. Scrap what I said above.
Nobody noticed the ROM difference?
Desire Z has 1.5GB while G2 has 4GB.
Besides that, there are some difference in the Keyboard keys. For one, where the Tab key would be on the Desire Z, it'll be the www / com key on the G2.
Also, GSM arena lists the wifi for G2 as b/g only while for the Desire Z is b/g/n. Specs on HTC's website does not mention what wifi G2 has. Can anyone confirm whether G2 has b/g/n?
Internal Storage
G2 - 4GB
Z - 1.5GB
OS
G2 - Stock Android 2.2
Z - Android 2.2 with Sense
3G Compatibility
G2 - Band IV only. Works in USA(T-Mobile, etc) and Canada(Mobilicity, WIND wireless, etc.)
Z - Bands I and VIII works in Europe, Asia, Africa and Brazil and a few other places
These are the ones I have noticed.
Is there any difference in RAM?
I'm just thinking back to my google branded Vodafone HTC Magic having less than the non-google version :-(
I think its unfair G2 has 4GB
Anomaly said:
Internal Storage
G2 - 4GB
Z - 1.5GB
OS
G2 - Stock Android 2.2
Z - Android 2.2 with Sense
3G Compatibility
G2 - Band IV only. Works in USA(T-Mobile, etc) and Canada(Mobilicity, WIND wireless, etc.)
Z - Bands I and VIII works in Europe, Asia, Africa and Brazil and a few other places
These are the ones I have noticed.
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wait a sec. i thought g2 only had 1.5gb like the Z. though at least this way won't run out of space for apps. sucks how g2 only has band IV. don't think it'll work in asia or europe.
Oh my god you serious? So I can't buy an unlocked G2 and use 3G here in Italy?
................
I was planning on getting the UK stock Desire Z. While I doubt I'll want to 3G roam via my home account (too darned expensive) it might be nice to get a US SIM card for while I'm over in the USA. How compatible (or not) will it be for data use between Europe and the USA?
Andre
Thought I was the only guy noticing the differences..
daijoubu said:
Nobody noticed the ROM difference?
Desire Z has 1.5GB while G2 has 4GB.
Besides that, there are some difference in the Keyboard keys. For one, where the Tab key would be on the Desire Z, it'll be the www / com key on the G2.
Also, GSM arena lists the wifi for G2 as b/g only while for the Desire Z is b/g/n. Specs on HTC's website does not mention what wifi G2 has. Can anyone confirm whether G2 has b/g/n?
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I wish the Z had 4gb as well but still cant wait..
Both the Z and the G2 have 512 MB RAM.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Cell-Phone-Detail.aspx?cell-phone=T-Mobile-G2-with-Google
In specs:
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
"850 MHz;900 MHz;1800" - Isn't it for 2g? and UMTS for 3g?
No 850/1900 MHz 3G for the Desire Z
No 4 GB for the Desire Z
That's why I'm looking at the Motorola Droid 2 WE (world edition) too
Droid 2/Milestone 2 Cons:
It's a Moto, No Sense, Not HTC, just some blur
Droid 2/Milestone 2 Pros:
More RAM - 8MB
Faster chip - 1GHz
Slightly smaller and lighter
Dual LED flash
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gtrab said:
No 850/1900 MHz 3G for the Desire Z
No 4 GB for the Desire Z
That's why I'm looking at the Motorola Droid 2 WE (world edition) too
Droid 2/Milestone 2 Cons:
It's a Moto, No Sense, Not HTC, just some blur
Droid 2/Milestone 2 Pros:
More RAM - 8MB
Faster chip - 1GHz
Slightly smaller and lighter
Dual LED flash
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Fair point changeed my mind going for DHD gotta love that screen
Anomaly said:
Internal Storage
G2 - 4GB
Z - 1.5GB
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Wow. I wonder why there's such a difference there?
Hi,
I have a rooted HTC Aria (Liberty) wth Froyo 2.2 on the AT&T USA network. While I love the phone, it seems like the 185MB of internal memory is not as robust and large as what I need, given I frequently get low disk space warnings. I have abut 15MB right now and have moved all of the apps that are posisble to my SD card.
UPDATE....So I am looking for another similar phone that is gnerally not "sold" by AT&T, that could be rooted, run 2.2, and has HTC Sense with larger intermal memory.
Ordered an HTC Desire Z from plemix.com for $550 and now worried it will not do 3G on AT&T...uh -oh...
Comments, thoughts, ideas etc. more than welcome and including how to get some internal memory back.
Thanks,
malloy0
malloy0 said:
Hi,
I have a rooted HTC Aria (Liberty) wth Froyo 2.2 on the AT&T USA network. While I love the phone, it seems like the 185MB of internal memory is not as robust and large as what I need, given I frequently get low disk space warnings. I have abut 15MB right now and have moved all of the apps that are posisble to my SD card.
UPDATE....So I am looking for another similar phone that is gnerally not "sold" by AT&T, that could be rooted, run 2.2, and has HTC Sense with larger intermal memory.
Ordered an HTC Desire Z from plemix.com for $550 and now worried it will not do 3G on AT&T...uh -oh...
Comments, thoughts, ideas etc. more than welcome and including how to get some internal memory back.
Thanks,
malloy0
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If it's the North American version that supports 850 and 1900mhz then you're fine. If not.. then big uh oh.
Edit:
Straight from Plemix.com per Desire Z they sell:
"HSDPA 900 / 2100 MHz (3G Is NOT Compatible In US & CA)"
Here is the one you needed to order:
http://www.newayci.com/detail/1220/HTC_A7275_DESIRE_Z_NAM/
kaschenberg...thanks!
As it turned out I called Plemix customer service, spoke with Paul and they canceled the order. WOW! They are in Hong Kong. Talk about service.
So now I will look at ordering the phone at this link
http://www.newayci.com/detail/1220/HTC_A7275_DESIRE_Z_NAM/
Again THANK YOU!
.
Oh it was as easy as to run A2SD with moving the dalvik cache to the ext partition. Now I have 512mb to install stuff. With a class 6 memory, there's no lag.
Darius, thanks.
Did some searching on A2SD and found a couple of guides, but wondering if I can tap into what you have already done? Is there one method better / easier then another?
malloy0
This is my ONLY gripe about the Aria, will look into A2SD. Desire Z looks like a great phone, it is the G2 on t-mobile here in America.