...does anyone else feel that the text messaging on Android 2.1 on the Wildfire is complete and utter garbage?
Its as slow as death mainly and takes forever to jump back from a text to the inbox etc and when you send a text you can't jump out for about 5 secs till the text is actually sent. Then when you want to jump from the inbox to the main screen using the back button it takes another 3 secs.
I'm now using 'whatsapp' for messaging and its like a million times faster with almost zero lag! How the hell can a 3rd party app be better than an integrated part of the OS? I don't get it.
Seems like smartphones should be renamed 'dumbphones' as they are crap at being a phone and not quite as good as a computer for the 'smart' stuff! Basically stuck in the middle of nowhere!
Rant over!
ps. i know i expect too much! Just my nature!
It's alright to me.
Also, Android has the power of SMS replacers.
Handcent SMS is a perfect example.
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how many messages do you have? i had like 3500, then they got deleted when i wiped all the data, and it was as fast as my dads desire. i was shocked. but then i flashed openfire without doing a backup, now ive lost my original rom forever
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I never actually used the stock messaging app. As soon as I got my phone my friend told me to dl handcent.
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I never actually used the stock messaging app. As soon as I got my phone my friend told me to dl handcent.
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Yeah, but even handcent and chompsms have anoying lag times. I just did the froyo update this night, and i have the feeling that the lag time is even worse.. shouldn't froyo be faster then eclair? I main, even my MFLOPS are 20% lower now :-o Don't know what to do anymore :s
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Yeah, but even handcent and chompsms have anoying lag times. I just did the froyo update this night, and i have the feeling that the lag time is even worse.. shouldn't froyo be faster then eclair? I main, even my MFLOPS are 20% lower now :-o Don't know what to do anymore :s
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Have a try at Go SMS. It's faster (well I think it is) and also some of the themes are cool , I'm using it as a replacement for HandcentSMS atm.
upgraded to 2.2...
Nothing to do with what app you use anymore, Andriod is just effing crap! Typing just laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaags! All i get is lag, constantly having to go back a retype words that have failed to enter properly.
Crap, crap, crap!
Nokia make crap smartphones but bloody good phones that work as a phone and allow u to type as fast as u want and not miss a beat.
Android just lags, crashes and generally feels crap and makes a superb useless Dumbphone!
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I have never experienced lag while texting
same here, i've never had lag or any problems with texting.
maybe you're not using your phone properly ;D
yup i am using GO SMS and its quite fast ,.. the most imp setting is that u need to reduce the number of messages that the phone stores per convo. i kept it to 20 and it phone works smoothly.. no lag even in the built in msging app.
and if ur experiencing typing lags again that is due to the excessive memory the phone has to use to get all the stored messages.
ALso download a different keyboard (many avail on market) they are all awesome and really u will experience super fast typing with hardly any lag...
i type on my wildfire all the time.. gtalk, watsapp, imo im, messaging, FB, twitter.. never had any issues
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upgraded to 2.2...
Nothing to do with what app you use anymore, Andriod is just effing crap! Typing just laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaags! All i get is lag, constantly having to go back a retype words that have failed to enter properly.
Crap, crap, crap!
Nokia make crap smartphones but bloody good phones that work as a phone and allow u to type as fast as u want and not miss a beat.
Android just lags, crashes and generally feels crap and makes a superb useless Dumbphone!
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Don't blame Android, blame HTC. The 2.2 update was crap, which is why many people advised against doing it... it mainly made the phone slower and changed the label to "2.2" from 2.1 as far as a user can see. My phone is snappy and runs fast on CyanogenMod 7 (2.3.2) (which is pure android)
edit: oh and i never experienced lag like how you say even with the htc sense keyboard. (maybe a tiny lag every now and then but nothing big)
i found that turning prediction off did wonders for lag
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Thanks for the info folks.
I'm actually using Sunaabh's custom 2.2 ROM which is very good overall.
I don't wanna use any ROMs that don't allow the camera to function properly.
Maybe you guys don't type fast enough, i tend to type very fast with the old style phone keypad and i expect the phone to keep up but it doesn't.
I don't care how much memory my messages take up because i bought a smartphone because it should be able to handle it and i shouldn't have to worry about basic crap like that. I expect the phone to work as a phone without any issues. But HTC have failed me. I simply can't imagine how horrible other Android phones are as the Sense overlay is meant to be the best out the lot! And generally its a fantastic overlay apart from the lag.
I suppose i'll just have to learn to type slower.
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Thanks for the info folks.
I'm actually using Sunaabh's custom 2.2 ROM which is very good overall.
I don't wanna use any ROMs that don't allow the camera to function properly.
Maybe you guys don't type fast enough, i tend to type very fast with the old style phone keypad and i expect the phone to keep up but it doesn't.
I don't care how much memory my messages take up because i bought a smartphone because it should be able to handle it and i shouldn't have to worry about basic crap like that. I expect the phone to work as a phone without any issues. But HTC have failed me. I simply can't imagine how horrible other Android phones are as the Sense overlay is meant to be the best out the lot! And generally its a fantastic overlay apart from the lag.
I suppose i'll just have to learn to type slower.
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Camera works fine on CM7 using Vignette. Sometimes better pics than with sense. only video recording is shaky but even on sense it sucked so doesnt make much of a difference.
And no you're not the only person who types ultra fast, on the gingerbread keyboard (which is supposed to be faster than sense) i got letter repeats because of lag due to word prediction (it wwould come oout like tthis). I turned off the key popups and all lag disappeared
Edit: i seem to remember keyboard lagged quite a bit on the stock rom, but it stopped when i switched to wildpuzzle (this was before cm had even come out)
slideit keyboard with abc mode = flawlezzy
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-it's so annoying, when you are in text messages and you touch a "persons" txt, but it opens ANOTHER person's grouped text!
I've even txted eg. person a, but the message went to person b!
wtf!?
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just wondering now that the slide has had a couple days of usage how is it running for every? is it still fast? any fc's? any other wierd problems popping up? im just asking cause im thinking of getting one but want to know if there are any problems with it.
I personally wouldnt trade it in for any phone out on the market right now. I would take this devce unrooted over any current android device on the market. Once it gets rooted...it will be unbelievable.
Being that I require an actual keyboard, its not a hard decision, but its far exceed my expectations. There are quirks that bug me...like the pull down notification. Having the recent used applications in there was a pretty stupid idea when its x5 easer to hold Home down.
You know theres some asshole of a sr. software engineer that pushed for that to be included + sizes to be the way they are, and someone under him going "i told you so" user interface issue like that dont just go over looked, it couldnt be more blatant.
But if thats all I have to complain about, Im in pretty good shape. This phone is nearly perfect (for me)
I got the chance to play with an Incredible today. I let him mess with my Slide. His had a bigger screen and a nicer display, but my Slide was MUCH faster than his phone, even with all of the bloatware.
I just noticed the Incredible was real choppy when going from window to window and in the app drawer. I was expecting much more.
hey all
i read a lot of these forums here on xda but dont really post too often.
ive owned the G1, MT3G, Cliq, Cliq XT, HTC Hero, and have had enough experience with the Samsung Behold II to say I wouldn't let someone give me that phone... having said that.
i have had the mytouch slide for about a month now (ha, only now ((since launch)) can i speak of it)
i dont use any task killing manager app whatsoever.. literally.. ever..
this phone is butter.. the 512 ram and the QCOM 7227 really help this thing glide... it has also been confirmed by HTC that it will receive the 2.2 Update. for that.. i cannot wait.
I'm loving this phone, and I'm the type that can always find fault with phones. Its as snappy as ever.
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This phone is great. The only fc i have had is with the built in twitter client, but after i logged out i have not had any problems. Fantastic g1 replacement.
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Mine has been running great, no fc's, still super snappy and I am figuring out how to get everything to play nice together (htc mail with gmail app, my custom ringtones, etc) I am still quite happy and impressed, although I would dump this in a second if the supersonic came to tmo.
Btw, holding home still brings up your recent apps (but I'm sure you already knew that!
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Mine is butter as well. No slowdowns while running multiple apps.
I do wish the HW keyboard was a little more functional; autocorrect without having to turn off swype and maybe a directional pad. Its not bad though, just have to get used to it.
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I bought mine on Tuesday have widgets on every screen.speed an responsiveness is top notch and this has the fastest web browser I've used on a mobile device to date.my main complaint and the only thing that really bothers me is watching my internal memory dither to nothing as install apps and themes.I'm currently at 50mb and that's with only a few apps and some themes installed.froyo can't come soon enough,if I get apps2sd I'll be fine with this phone.however if we don't get an apps2sd solution soon I'm afraid I'll be getting rid of this.storage is definitely a deal breaker to me.
Absolutely wonderful. My G1 screen was starting to die, and not having another HW keyboard choice is what forced my hand. Thought I would be getting a mid-range stand by till Q4 of this year, but I have been pleasantly surprized. It's small/thin, yet extremely potent for what it is. And though I'll probably be one of the few, the Espresso Sense UI is nice. I would simply like custom control over the theme. /agreed @ once we get root, this thing is gonna soar.
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Phone is quick as hell. Way better than my G1 in its prime (rooted and unrooted).
One thing that isn't working is hotmail. All other email works (exchange, yahoo, work) but hotmail doesn't work with stock or K9 email. Is Microsuck hating on Android?
Four words (faster than my HD2) are you sure this phone doesn't have a snap-dragon processor or is wm6.5 and sense is just that much slower than android
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Four words (faster than my HD2) are you sure this phone doesn't have a snap-dragon processor or is wm6.5 and sense is just that much slower than android
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Definitely blame stock WM6.5. I tried the HD2, and while I know I could have vastly improved performance by installing custom roms, tweaks, etc, I just didn't feel like putting that much effort into a WinMo 6 phone when we know that later this year Windows Phone 7 is coming. There will never be a major update for the HD2, which is sad considering the hardware is magical. I loved everything about that phone except everything that ran on it. I'm very happy with my Slide, and to be honest, it's a lot easier to hold than the massive HD2.
I've had mine for 24 hours now, and I can say Advanced Task Killer is a must.
When I first opened it, I had 36mb free. I scrolled through the list, and noticed that not only was every app I had ever run present, so were some I've still never run, actually, almost every app on the phone!
I started killing them one by one, and when I killed Twitter, my free mem jumped almost 60mb! After I killed everything else, it's like a new phone. I LOVE it.
I'm a die-hard WinMo guy, I actually was in the store *just* to buy a Touch Pro 2 or HD2, and wanted only to give the MT3GS a try because I could return it and buy the WinMo phone later.... Nope... I love it....
I've had mine since launch day and haven't used any of the task killers.....usually around 50 M free (damned GPS memory hog programs) and have no problems with lag.....quite unlike my G1, thank goodness!
I came from a nexus one and can I love this phone the speed is roughly the same and I love the keyboard also coming from the n1 all I can say is that the reception on the n1 is terrible this rocks
Mines is running so smooth and the on screen keyboard is great! I don't like how they changed the usb port instead of keeping the same one as the mytouch that I had so many chargers for. Not a deal breaker though.
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Loved this phone. I switch from a g1. Which feels so big aftedr having this bad boy in my pocket. Adv task killer is a must and the g1 seemed to get a little better service. But the swipe text is awesome. I never hardly even use the slide out keyboard.
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well so far 2 days use and honestly both myself and my brother agree. We love this phone I would not trade it in for anything out right now at all. The speed has been constant the phone is just solid in general and I really love mine so far.
I love how the phone works so far but the 3g reception has been horrific compared to my g1
Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
The difference must just be that I'm not a heavy app user. I still have the stock firmware the phone came with. Never had a 10 second delay with anything. Never noticed any sort of build up of lag. It works great! Do you guys install like 50 apps on your phones or something? Clearly that must be your problem.
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
Not saying others are only having problems with the above situation, but it does seem like there are specific factors that cause it, which is why a lot of people have had no problems.
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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I know, but until we can actually use it, we are limited to 256MB (or was it 232MB?)
SGS has 512MB RAM
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What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1
And although I am not a really heavy app user, I am a heavy user, and it wasn't hard to make the phone lag quite heavily at times, so I'd say no, it has not been blown out of proportion.
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What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
Tachikoma_kun said:
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
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Tachikoma_kun,
Please understand that Android does not work like the Mac OSX on an iMac, and that, if you open 8 odd apps in a row, you should _not_ have them all running in the background at once.
Android's memory management should close applications and free memory as needed. Processes will start if needed, be set to inactive as long as possible and killed if necessary. This works fine with other Android devices and obviously not with the Galaxy S.
You can read about the life cycle of Android Components at
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Using a task killer to free up memory might make your Galaxy S faster than not using one, but this is still a lot less efficient than it should be. In a working Android system you should use the most out of your available memory and the system should stay fast as you open and switch between applications. You should never have to think about which applications are running or not running.
Again, this works just fine with other devices. If it does not work with the Galaxy S then this is a serious flaw in the system. The flaw might be related to the slow I/O on the internal SD, or maybe there is a firmware bug besides the I/O. But it is currently not working correctly.
If you have access to 256mb memory of RAM, and you use a task killer to always keep 100MB free, then you use your device like it only had 156MB.
I also do not believe that the average customer without a technical background is able to use a task killer without shooting himself in the foot. Without knowledge about what each application and service does, and how android manages background processes, how should a normal user know what he can kill and which services he should keep running?
lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.
lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.
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More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?
That is exactly what i was telling people.
I come from the HTC Athena, and OMG... that thing is like crawling on sand, even with its super duper 625 Mhz CPU which by then was supposed to be the state of the art.
yet everything i did was sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, using the SGS was like smooth flowing water, everything is perfect in this phone out of the box.
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Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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what made you choose a Droid X vs. a SGS i9000?
the 2 phones are almost identical, except for the camera.
the lag is very real.
try opening Dolphin HD and then closing it again .....about 8+ seconds to do either, and that's with nothing else open.
instantaneous on the nexus with 2.2.
some apps are much slower than others, some there is no difference, but even the default samsung apps such as phonebook have a good lag when switching between tabs.
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I agree. I'm guessing you haven't used/owned a HTC Hero? If so, you haven't experienced the PAIN!! lol.
On my side I don't have any heavy app, I don't do games, or HD stuff what I expect from my phone is to be able to show me my mail ... and that's where I have plenty of lag ( not all the time but everyday for sure).
Lag to open the mail, lag to delete the mail, lag to come back on the homescreen.
Up to 15 sec to come back from the settings menu.
My benchmark is the iphone 3GS but also the HTC P3600 and the HTC diamond which are not that fast
I have never been waiting so long in front of my phone.
Excuse me if I am working with my phone and I don't want to wait 10 sec all the time.
And stop insulting people who complains please
Oh and the comment about installing 50 apps .... please learn how android is supposed to work. I should be able to install 1000 app without any problem. Who care about the number of app installed ???
By the way, when I have a lot of lag I go in systempanel to see what it my amount of memory and it's around 30-50 Mb so it should not be a problem.
I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
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No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
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LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
kizer said:
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".
I just got home from Best Buy where I played with their Xoom for about 20 minutes. Anytime I tried to use the keyboard (in the browser or just doing the google search on the home page), the keyboard only registered like 1/5 keystrokes I made. The line "just testing out this new xoom" would come out as "j tesgo t ewom" or something like that. I watched as I was typing and it looked like the keys were lighting up. Is this just a bad display unit or does the keyboard really suck this bad?
Let me put it this way, I am typing this on my xoom almost as fast as I can type on a computer. It does get laggy in the browser on more complex sites, but it shouldn't lead to that much mispelling. The keyboard is at least as good as the ipad in terms of speed.
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Best Buy has some crappy units on display for some reason. ANGRY BIRDS lagged when I used the one at Best Buy.
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i find the keyboard quite laggy. I am typing this post in the quick reply box and am running about 1-2 keystrokes behind. And this is with stock or Thumb keyboard.
ZBoater said:
i find the keyboard quite laggy. I am typing this post in the quick reply box and am running about 1-2 keystrokes behind. And this is with stock or Thumb keyboard.
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The xda forum makes the browser lag like crazy, probably because of all the elements that are on the page at once. Use the xda app instead.
Not sure, but as far as my personal experience goes, every single floor unit of any device I've tried is always slower than the real thing. With the amount of abuse that the devices get, and in the case of Android the people messing with things that they don't know the reason for make everything laggy.
I remember using the Galaxy Tab at a T-mobile kiosk and having it run pretty smooth, then trying one in a Sprint store than absolutely lagged out and crashed several times. It really depends what people have been doing to them.
Let me also +1 the Xoom soft-keyboard- between the responsiveness and accuracy of the touchscreen, the size of the keys, and the medium autocorrect setting, what used to be a chore typing on soft keyboards has now made sending E-mails FAR easier (which my client certainly appreciates, as now I respond to E-mails coming thru in late at night or early AM much faster ).
I found that when I went to bestbuy the display unit was terrible because everyone installed apps and put a ton of widgets on the desktop. When I actually got my own xoom it was perfect and never had any issue browsing or using the keyboard. So I guess the point I am trying to make is that its more what people put on it then the unit itself and when you have tons of people messing with it a lot of things get screwed up.
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I found that when I went to bestbuy the display unit was terrible because everyone installed apps and put a ton of widgets on the desktop. When I actually got my own xoom it was perfect and never had any issue browsing or using the keyboard. So I guess the point I am trying to make is that its more what people put on it then the unit itself and when you have tons of people messing with it a lot of things get screwed up.
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The unit at the best buy I was at didn't have a google account tied to the device. You couldn't use the market, gmail or any google application. So nobody put extra apps or widgets on there. Maybe they messed with the settings? All I know is the keyboard was horrible. It would enter a couple letters, miss a couple letters. Half way through typing something it would auto-close the keyboard. Something must have been messed up, I guess. Otherwise I assume everybody would be complaining, which they aren't. I just wish I could have tested the device with the keyboard working correctly so I knew what to actual expect since I'm still on the fence between this and the ipad 2.
Sorry but its not the store unit's fault. This is something ive noticed and subsequently been annoyed with using my Xoom. Usually its while im using the keyboard in the browser window. It just cant keep up and misses keystrokes. It wouldnt be so bad if the keystrokes were just behind, but it lags enough where it doesnt even register some keystrokes. but like i said this is mainly in the browser. Plus for the person who mention Angry birds, i noticed this myself. Which is something thats alway bothered me about Non-Apple(dont shoot me im not a fanboy) hardware/software. If there was one thing i never experienced on my iphone/ipad it was subsequent slowdown while using apps and such. Everything was as quick the first time as it was the last time. Slowdown to me is a major nusiance becuase it seems to happen in intervals as apposed to consistantly. i hate that. Sometimes AB is smooth as silk other times its choppy, but i never know why or when.
I have noticed the lag too. Not on all sites but some especially XDA.I have seen many others complain about the same thing in other posts. Obviously an issue that needs to be corrected by Google in an update.
I have yet to see any lag playing Angry Birds.
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The unit at the best buy I was at didn't have a google account tied to the device. You couldn't use the market, gmail or any google application. So nobody put extra apps or widgets on there. Maybe they messed with the settings? All I know is the keyboard was horrible. It would enter a couple letters, miss a couple letters. Half way through typing something it would auto-close the keyboard. Something must have been messed up, I guess. Otherwise I assume everybody would be complaining, which they aren't. I just wish I could have tested the device with the keyboard working correctly so I knew what to actual expect since I'm still on the fence between this and the ipad 2.
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Interesting since the unit I messed with had a ton of stuff. The only time I have noticed some keyboard lag occasionally was in the web browser when on some intensive websites but other than that seems to be fine. As a note you could try out a different keyboard on it if they actually have a Google account such as swift key and see if that helps. Also id see if you can go to another store such as Verizon and test it out there since normally it works well without lag for me.
That is very strange, I played with my new xoom and it was quick on all apps except for SBM but it makes sense since its not optimized yet but as far as browser and keyboard I haven't experienced any lag yet. Side note Google body was very underwhelming.... more for children then Med students or anything past high school.
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I get no lag but I use voice to text a lot and that works great
I thought that I was the only one that noticed a little lag on the keyboard..... nothing I can't handle or that stopped me from buying the Xoom
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My problems with the keyboard are how it freezes up during a keystroke and the only way to stop it is to turn the Xoom all the way off. It can be a bit laggy, but it seems to depend more on the app being used vs the keyboard its self.
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My problems with the keyboard are how it freezes up during a keystroke and the only way to stop it is to turn the Xoom all the way off. It can be a bit laggy, but it seems to depend more on the app being used vs the keyboard its self.
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Ya it probably depends on if the app is optimized yet for honeycomb so the keyboard lag issue should be fixed when everything becomes more compatible.
Is it just me, or is this phone nigh-on useless?
problems abound with it:
1) sometimes (quite often too) If I loose signal and then go into an area where I know there is now a signal, the Wildfire will not pick up the signal again - system has to then be rebooted!
2) Typing in a txt is damn awkward!
3) Phone does not understand MMS messages, what the hell is that all about!
4) It's SLOW. There are also bugs in the txt message routines - even this has a very slow response time when getting and updating recieved messages - very annoying.
5) Bluetooth connection to my Parrot CK3200 hands free kit is flakey - sometimes the phone is detected, others not (and it takes like 15 seconds to sync to it).
I'm glad I'm NOT using this phone for business purposes.
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It's not supposed to be a business phone. It is a smartphone for people on a strict budget, or, those who are just entering the world of smartphones, up from feature phones.
I cannot comment on your all your issues, but, in the few I can:
1) Never got signal issues myself. In areas I know there will be signal problems, the signal does drop indeed, but, it regains it as soon as I am out of the problem area.
2) Not really. I mean, it's just like any other pure touch screen operated phone. This cannot be a Wildfire specific issue.
4) It is indeed slow compared to top end flagship phones, but, I would point to my opening line again.
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Is it just me, or is this phone nigh-on useless?
problems abound with it:
1) sometimes (quite often too) If I loose signal and then go into an area where I know there is now a signal, the Wildfire will not pick up the signal again - system has to then be rebooted!
2) Typing in a txt is damn awkward!
3) Phone does not understand MMS messages, what the hell is that all about!
4) It's SLOW. There are also bugs in the txt message routines - even this has a very slow response time when getting and updating recieved messages - very annoying.
5) Bluetooth connection to my Parrot CK3200 hands free kit is flakey - sometimes the phone is detected, others not (and it takes like 15 seconds to sync to it).
I'm glad I'm NOT using this phone for business purposes.
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I will try my best to help you
1) I have not had this problem.
2)Try deleting some useless apps to make it quicker, or downloading an app such as ACcleaner to clear the cache?
Move apps to SD card?
3)What do you mean? As in sending them or receiving?
4) See 2)
5)Possibly a bug?
Still, this phone isn't a high end phone, its a budget conscious smart phone.
Hope I was of help
Well see is your phone branded? ;D
I understand the phone is lower end, entry level smartphone, but that aside, SURELY it should be capable of getting the BASICs right! Hence my rant.
Software is up to date and it's not 'rooted' etc. So faults not the result of me mucking about with it.
3) Issue with MMS is when recieving MMS messages, for example a simple picture. Bombs out every time!
Like I said, it's not managing to do the basics. I will attempt to do as you've suggested and remove some of the apps that may be bogging it down...
Thanks again,
Andy
I have signal problems in some part of my home. but it does regains the signals instantly. I guess if it does not regain on your device that means its specifically a problem with your device
For messaging and MMS issues, maybe you can use other Messaging applications like Go SMS, it may solve your problem
all above suggestions are very useful. You can also, Use task killer to free-up memory, that will boost the speed to some extent.
Another thing is root the device and use custom ROMs they are faster and let you have a lot of free space. I will root my phone soon
I think Wilfire is a different class phone, its a complete and capable smartphone but it may not be something you expected.
If you were using phone like Nexus or Desire etc., and then switch to Wildfire, that will definitely a downgrade for you and it will be annoying
For me, its great as I switched from Touch (Elf)... Using Elf for over 2 years with patience
Well it IS a low end phone and a crapy one at that
There are phones out there for half its price that perform WAY better, they're just not HTC.
And that is why we search and read reviews before buying anything. You can always chuck it or sell it and get a ZTE
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Well it IS a low end phone and a crapy one at that
There are phones out there for half its price that perform WAY better, they're just not HTC.
And that is why we search and read reviews before buying anything. You can always chuck it or sell it and get a ZTE
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Agreed. I sold my wildfire and got Sony Ericsson x8 which Is 99pound in uk it has better screen Res, faster CPU and a gpu. Can't go wrong. Compaired to the 159.99 to 189.99 for a wildfire. I did like the feel of wildfire though, and do miss sense a Tad.
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Maybe root your phone...... I use cyanogenmod and it works good for me. My wildfire is overclocked a little bit and in my opinion for the money its a great phone......... for sure a desire or phones in that price range are better.
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Agreed. I sold my wildfire and got Sony Ericsson x8 which Is 99pound in uk it has better screen Res, faster CPU and a gpu. Can't go wrong. Compaired to the 159.99 to 189.99 for a wildfire. I did like the feel of wildfire though, and do miss sense a Tad.
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Lol how much crap in one single post , :
Screen res is better on x8,no doubt.
Cpu is 600mHz where as wildfire has 528 mHz (not even noticeable with the crappy softwarelayer of SE)
It doesn't even support multi-touch??
And just saying : it's shipped with Donut (1.6) dude?!
Re your signal - the wildfire is set to connect to 2g and 3g networks. However the wildfire will defult to a weak 3g signal instead of a strong 2g signal
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Wildfire + cyanogen mod = perfect daily driver
I get no problems with mine. I mean come on look at it's price it's cheap you can't expect too much from it.
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I don't have those problems with mine. It seems to work perfectly, is it branded to someone, like Orange? They have a habit of plastering the phones full of there own addware junk, that will always smother the phones performance. I bought mine HTC stock and use a sim only contract .
I will add that my mother opted for the Sony X10. And the screen on that is not as bright and no where near as clear. It is quite apparently a lower quality screen. And the phone its self is not as tactile. And no touch sense.....
I'm glad I stuck with HTC
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Only problems I had came from (poor) roms and are easily fixable (CM7 GPS for example).
1) never had any problems like this
2)install another keyboard? SlideIT or GingerKeyboard for example
3)had the same issue, but I haven't been getting much MMS' so far so it hadn't been that bad
4)don't you ever test the phone before you buy it? or compare the system specifications to other phones'?
Hi
I have Wildfire rooted CM7 and very pleased with it for a Budget smart phone, only fault I have found so far is that I cannot download Angry Birds for some reason. Was able to on stock Rom but not since ibstalling CM7.
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its a great phone for the budget. i havent had any of the problems that u are facing.
i would like to know what is the rom u r using. is it an official froyo rom or a custom rom. if u r using a custom rom, then u cant comment on those things bcoz custom roms differ in performances.
i suggest u how to recover those issues.
u must have made ur phone buggy by installing many conflicting applications. do u know that installing two task managers or two app managers on the phone decrease the performance by conflicting with each other. try to know what else the conflicting apps will be.
i would recommend u to format the phone and memory card first. then donot install any app. use the phone like this for 2 days. and feel the difference.
if u feel a huge performance difference then the issue will be conflicting applications itself. if u still had problems, then the problem is with ur phone.then give it to service centre. let me know after doing this. after all u must know how to use ur phone before saying it as USELESS.