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Soooo i give up....HD2 ..blame F***ing windows

I love the phone but cant stand windows choppiness makes the phone useless... im coming from a Iphone 3gs.. i can use the iphone 3gs hardcore use all day without having to reboot it cause it gets slooowww and unresponsive...hd2 have to reset around 5 times daily.. wtf? camera pictures are stunning that's what kept me using it for 4-5 days ..i tried couple of tweaks and stuff. last one im using is BsB tweaks that seem to work good.... lets talk about typing..............OMG!!! lol suck ass i thought i need it to get use to the phone but not at all .. its just bad and it kinda make pissed cause i know is windows. why but why in the earth HTC loaded windows in this such a beautiful phone? ..i hope when the EVO comes out someone please please do the ROM from the EVO into the HD2.. this phone need to run android..........
and please be honest... the phone gets very choppy after texting and texting and sending mms ... i call that normal use...
so im going back to iphone until a miracle happens .. android ROM for the HD2

same situation here, why the hell cant this phone just function like its suppose to? everything..... i mean everything is a god damn project with this phone. if this phone had the iphone os... for me at least itd be the perfect device.

Either you love it or you hate it! So far I love it!

I don't have the issues anymore.................I returned mine.

Put on a custom ROM and the days of rebooting/choppiness will be long gone.

Frankly speaking, TMOUS stock rom is the best rom so far I have used with windows mobile (forget about the interface thing, it's the most stable one I have ever experienced. Even custom roms got bugs here and there), and I never have to reset the phone due to any bugs or performance issues... I just can't help but to say I love my HD2

Can u please link me to that ROM. I really want to keep using the hd2. I'll give that one I try

To be honest, I was ready to return both of mine. Then I disabled Sense and installed spb shell. All my issue have disappeared except the daily reboot on one(waiting on T-Mobile to get some in stock to send me a replacement). The keyboard does not hang anymore, and I type fast. The keyboard is acurate now too. The only problems I have now is the network, but I can't do much about that. Stick with the stock rom and do what I did. Also, keep using the bsb tweaks. It really does help.

makino_ruki said:
Frankly speaking, TMOUS stock rom is the best rom so far I have used with windows mobile (forget about the interface thing, it's the most stable one I have ever experienced. Even custom roms got bugs here and there), and I never have to reset the phone due to any bugs or performance issues... I just can't help but to say I love my HD2
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Feel the same. Since I brought the phone home, has been flawless. Top notch performance.
My only concern is not the phone but, T-mobile's network.
Thank you,
Monnie

Disabling SENSE kinda takes away the beuty of the phone.

i don't think its windows i think is the damn t-mobile rom or the first batch of phones i say exchange it cause i had the touch pro 2 and i would just get maybe a message and email bug. but i do see where you coming from and believe me i had problems with all the phones i had with a lag when i had over 1000 sms my nokia n82 would lag android installing and syncing 2 years of calendar appointments went bunkers I think as tech gets more advance software gets more buggy. but if you find the iphone way more useful i would tell you go for it no device its worth a headache lol

ajftl said:
Disabling SENSE kinda takes away the beuty of the phone.
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Damn, I love this phone but Im annoyed with the Messaging lag and not to mention the lag with the onscreen keyboard. When I bought this phone
I was thinking I would get used to the keyboard like on the Ipod Touch
but boy was I wrong. Im not going to lie to you guys, even the Keyboard on the
Zune HD is better than this phones and its a shame because of the screen size.
I installed the sensitivity cab so it could decrease the sensitivity but it didnt help at all.
Not to mention Sense crashing on me if I try to load some picture on the photo album. POP OUT THE BATTERY LITTLE KID
BSB tweaks help for battery life I guess.
I AM SURELY GOING TO MISS MY MIGHTMIKE ROMS ON MY SPRINT TP2.

I love my HD2

Are you using the task manager? The only reboot i have done is on updates that require it. Set your call button key to open task mager on holding the call button. I always use end all tasks before locking the phone, and it is ready and waiting on the next unlock. I had to do the same on my wing and shadow. I love this phone. I have had an iphone, g1, sidekick. But to me Windows mobile is so much more customizable than the other phone OS'. My first smarthphone was the Shadow and got me hooked on windows mobile.

fastwanabe said:
same situation here, why the hell cant this phone just function like its suppose to? everything..... i mean everything is a god damn project with this phone. if this phone had the iphone os... for me at least itd be the perfect device.
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i feel your pain about everything being a damn project, i'm thinking about jumping ship as well and its only been 5 days

84Gti Guy said:
Are you using the task manager? The only reboot i have done is on updates that require it. Set your call button key to open task mager on holding the call button. I always use end all tasks before locking the phone, and it is ready and waiting on the next unlock. I had to do the same on my wing and shadow. I love this phone. I have had an iphone, g1, sidekick. But to me Windows mobile is so much more customizable than the other phone OS'. My first smarthphone was the Shadow and got me hooked on windows mobile.
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thats what bugs the sh*t out of me about this phone, yes its not the phone issue itself, but winmo6.5m. but having to install a rom or program just so the X button on the upright corner, will ACTUALLY CLOSE the program instead of minimize it and stay in memory, while draining resources?!? thats a great idea!! why should i have have to use a damn task manager to close a damn program...

Get an HTC Desire or Nexus one.
Best of both worlds: Hardware like the HD2, software like the iPhone (much better than the iPhone, actually).
IMO it's much better than both the iPhone and the HD2, cause the whole package is consistent. Great hardware, great software. Android alone is worth it (much better than both iPhone OS and Windows Mobile), but with great, HD2-like hardware, there's nothing that can even come close to the Desire/Nexus.

Nexus One suck a$$... That's why I returned it... Piece of cr****.
Disable email on HD2 stock ROM and your re-booting problems will be gone...
I know..... Some peeps need email , but some is not clicking there.
Just my 2-1/2 cents... LOL

I second the opinion that the tmous stock rom is pretty dang great. Sense UI is the primary culprit behind any sort of slow down. It's great eye candy, but spb mobile shell is much less resource intense.

Why would u want to disable ur email on this phone just to make it "better"? It's like buying a new car and get rid off the headlights !!! U need emails ! and I shouldn't or better say we shouldn't disable ANYTHING to make this phone better. It has balls to run anything ! He's just going to sleep for a while until a updates come or something
btw after playing with a screen this big anything else looks crappy lol

Thinking of switching from a G1 to HD2, worth it?

Hey all,
I am thinking of switching from a G1 to the HD2 but still deciding. I like the fact that I can easily load things in to it from my pc (apps, updated ROMS for the OS and all). Does the HD2 have things like that? I liked that my G1 can play nes and snes games and such.
Only thing I do not like on my G1 is the battery life, but then again any phone with a nice big screen is going to have ****ty battery life. Anyone have experience with the battery life?
Just want to see what kind of apps, hacks, and what not there are for it before I get one. I see it has a 1ghz processor, so wondering what it actually is capable of : )
Thanks guys,
Dan
(P.S. I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after I got it, so for the last year I am glad its even working at all lol)

I'm sure all those things are capable on an HD2, i currently don't have any games like that..........yet. But depends on how much the battery means to you, just browse the forums, you'll find lots of posts about "****ty" battery life. For me, my battery is fine. Depends on usage. As for "hacks" farthest I've gone so far is Radio and ROM flashing, which i think I'm becoming addicted to it... any more in depth hacks or warez, have to look somewhere else.

it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.

Using task manager goes with out saying, it is a windows phone after all : P
I purchased "advanced task manager" for my G1 and use it all the time, so I am used to that anyways.
Android is neat and all, but I am really liking the youtube review and such I have seen, and what this phone can do. Especially since my G1's camera is so ****ty, and it has no headphone jack, which was a huge mistake on their part. : \

I came from the G1 too. I felt the G1 was a bit slow. Also, my G1 battery life seemed horrible. Probably around 12-14hrs before 10%-0% without too much use. Maybe the battery was old. The HD2 is currently giving me much better battery life and I use it more. I barely used the HD2 today, but it was unplugged at 9am and now it's almost 7pm with 82% battery left.
I miss the notification pulldown and the better app integration with it. With gtalk on WM, you have make about 3 taps after you see the notification to get into gtalk.
I miss the power and news/weather widgets from Android. I don't think there is a gvoice app for WM. I would have liked to be able to use gvoice since I finally got an account a couple of months ago.
I also miss the physical keyboard (a little) and the Android onscreen keyboard implementation a little. The WM onscreen keyboard is a little tricky for me since there are a couple of areas that if tapped on hide the keyboard or change it. I think it should be a long tap (instead of quick tap) to activate those annoying functions.
I never use the app store too much on Android, so I don't miss it.
My reasons for the HD2 was the faster processor and huge screen. Also the ability to play any video format.

xtenpeben said:
it really just depends on what you wanna do with a phone and if ur willing to use task manager on the phone a lot. I found that closing apps via task manager will help you avoid lock up problems other people are having.
i also came from the g1.
but if u like android so much, i say just wait for another android device.
Android does not equate to WinMo.
Both OSs have problems and advantages over the other.
If ur not sure, i suggest you play with a friend's HD2 or something.
I also suggeest you use the task manager when trying it out because you will probably just complain that its laggy, unresponsive and buggy if you don't use the task manager wisely.
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x2. you can pretty much do anything on the hd2 as you can do on the g1 but differently due to the differences in OS. i find it harder to customize the original rom on the phone vs. the stock g1 where more apps and tweaks are readily available whereas on the hd2, you gotta dig deeper (look no further then xda) for certain .cab files that are not in the marketplace or the open market to proceed with certain theme customizations.
yo, peben! this is ryan lol, good to see you posting here too.

It is worth it just for the camera, which is leaps and bounds over the G1, I had a G1.
The screen size makes it better. Bigger is better says my wife.

Beware!
Massive stability issues.

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Massive stability issues.
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I dropped my G1 in water 3 weeks after getting it a year or so ago. Instability is one thing I am used to. I have to pop my battery out at least twice a day. My camera doesnt turn off when I close it and just sucks battery even more horribly then the phone does normally.
Ear speaker works when it wants to, same with loud speaker.
If it is anything better then that, I will be happy.
** EDIT ** Also, is it possible to transfer contacts and what not from my G1 to this easily? I have a good few.

I came from a G1 as well and it has been well worth it for me. Yes the operating systems are different but I can do just about everything now that I can do on my G1 and its, in my opinion, more customizable. Even though I loved it I don't really miss anything about android, in fact I was getting a little bored with it. Battery life for me is much better, multimedia options are better. The speediness, ram, rom and speediness are also huge pluses. Various people have had various experiences but I never had any freezes or other issues with my using stock or custom roms.

I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.

ministersin said:
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I do miss those apps!! Coming form Nexus one.

I have navigation in my car, so the only thing I really do with my G1 these days is text, weather, and occasional youtube because it does not do much because of the water damage. I take pics with it sometimes and upload to picasa, but they look ****ty.
ministersin said:
I came from the G1. For the first week I thought I may have made a mistake.
I was VERY VERY wrong.
HD2 beats the G1 in every way.
The only thing I miss is ease of finding apps and Google Nav.
The truth is though that Copilot 8 is real Nav system (you don't have to be online to use it). It's just not integrated with gogle maps the way I wish it was.
If you love your G1, stick with it. If you want the best phone on the market,,the HD2 is where it's at.
You'll have to lean how to make all the settings and customizations (there are WAY more ways to customize than the G1) ad get used to using Google to search for apps instead of the marketplace.
After that..you'll LOVE this phone.
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I've have the g1 and also a hd2. the only thing I really miss is the apps for Android and ease of finding them. I never used the marketplace (it sucks!) except for like a browser or to DL or a Facebook app or something . to bump up to the hd2 is definitely worth it. specially comin from a g1. when I got it I was amazed at how quick and responsive it is. but I missed Android too much and ended up getting the nexus one so now I switch back and forth lol. if u don't think ull miss the OS all that much its deff worth getting. battery life for me I could make it bout a eight hour shift before it'd go into the red but again I was surfing the net on that thing all day at work ...days when I wouldn't power use it the battery wasn't too bad . also with the HTC sense it really covers up the Windows pretty good. and there is a emulator app for it ..nes snes genesis ...with multitouch !
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one more thing. u can sync ur Google contacts with the hd2. life saver :]
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Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.

Battman23 said:
Also coming from G1. I really loved Android and my G1 but when I saw the HD2 I knew it was over. Android is a great OS with a ton of apps, but the phone was just too slow to really take advantage of Android's capabilities.
I was planning on getting a Nexus One eventually, but I always like to try the phone out in the store a few times to see if I really like it at far as speed and ergonomics. Not having Nexus Ones in stores really hurt Google here IMHO as I probably would have gotten one.
I can say for sure that the HD2 is ultra fast with NO LAG for me. I can listen to podcasts, use navigation, switch between apps all with no freezing like I had with my G1. Plus I see way more "oohs" and "aaahs" when I use the big-ass screen in public.
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yeah it gets you major *****... haha jk

I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted

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I came from G1, trust me well worth the switch. Processor speed and screen size combined with swype make it great. I was not in love with the idea of no keyboard, but have adjusted
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Well, I installed swype on my G1 just to test it out and I really like it, but now I already have it on my G1 so its not the biggest selling point lol. But so far everything in this thread is telling me its the right phone to switch to

Another G1 to HD2 person. I do miss android and hopefully soon we will have a port for the HD2.
But, the hardware is super. I love this phone. Great camera, great call quality, large beautiful screen, fast, plenty of customizations, many rom's to switch to if you want.
The more I think about this phone I would like to have android, but only as an option for the apps I like. Otherwise, winmo will do.

Whos picking up a Slide today?

Im prolly picking one up on my lunch....Ive been stuck with my broken Cliq for too long.
How many others are picking up today?

I did! and i'm loving smoothness of the phone

Yea, Im really not worried about the latest and greatest, I just want a stable phone that does what it supposed to, and does it well. From what Ive heard from people that already have one, this phone pulls it off. That, an I have a pre-req of a physical keyboard, which made me not a big fan of the N1...should have mine in a couple hrs

I picked mine up already and Im impressed by the speed,but the touch screen is dare I say too responsive,when hitting the harware keys at the bottom of the touchscreen it somehow always does something on the touch screen not intended,and swype always picks up the wrong letter,I swear you barly hover your finger over this thing and it senses touch,kinda anoying,other then that my only complaints are that I set up my faves and after reseting the phone I had to do it again.I like the ui and the sense widgets but could do without the bubble icons and the bloatware,I mean for having 512 internal memory only 130 was available to me stock,and after puting about 7 apps on it's already down to 100,I mean christ my original mytouch is running 2.1 with 20 apps and I have 250 mb internal left without apps to sd.Hopefully some roots this and I can remove all the tmobile crap that you cant even use over wi-fi anyway.plus 2.2 is supposed to open twice the memory and add apps2sd support.the camera could be better,but all in all the phone is very fast and responsive so I wont complain too much,but will take some getting used to as I still love the original mytouch and it's lightweight design and the touch response seemed perfect.2 more complaints though is the slide out keyboard,not a smooth transition,feels kinda roughopening and makes a horrid noise,and the 4 row querty will take some getting used too,and the battery cover removal is assnine I can see it breaking easily.well thats all for now,will share more if I find anything intresting.

Picked mine up today. Not sure if I like the Faves app on the phone, but I'll play with it and see.
Only thing I'm noticing is that I get "The process com.htc.bg has stopped unexpectedly" message about every 10 minutes while messing with it.
Im still adding apps to it, so I'm not sure how it will react once it starts getting loaded with processes running.

the faves widget is fine but the app itself is kinda hokey, not terribly practical.

I've had mine since early April and still LOVE it

I would pick it up if there was some way for me get it at the 129 price.. I already have 2 tmobile lines, mine, and the wife's.. dont wanna pay any more a month than I am arleady paying, I dont see the need to IMHO.

Jerzeeloon said:
I picked mine up already and Im impressed by the speed,but the touch screen is dare I say too responsive,when hitting the harware keys at the bottom of the touchscreen it somehow always does something on the touch screen not intended,and swype always picks up the wrong letter,I swear you barly hover your finger over this thing and it senses touch,kinda anoying,other then that my only complaints are that I set up my faves and after reseting the phone I had to do it again.I like the ui and the sense widgets but could do without the bubble icons and the bloatware,I mean for having 512 internal memory only 130 was available to me stock,and after puting about 7 apps on it's already down to 100,I mean christ my original mytouch is running 2.1 with 20 apps and I have 250 mb internal left without apps to sd.Hopefully some roots this and I can remove all the tmobile crap that you cant even use over wi-fi anyway.plus 2.2 is supposed to open twice the memory and add apps2sd support.the camera could be better,but all in all the phone is very fast and responsive so I wont complain too much,but will take some getting used to as I still love the original mytouch and it's lightweight design and the touch response seemed perfect.2 more complaints though is the slide out keyboard,not a smooth transition,feels kinda roughopening and makes a horrid noise,and the 4 row querty will take some getting used too,and the battery cover removal is assnine I can see it breaking easily.well thats all for now,will share more if I find anything intresting.
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My lord... your punctuation is terrible...
I am thinking of grabbing one this afternoon. I also have a pre-req of a physical keyboard, so being with T-Mobile has made me stick with my G1 for this long. My only gripe is the number keys do not have their own dedicated row like the G1, but I can probably get over that.
I also am just looking for a stable phone. With the G1's limited internal memory, I was left to rooting and hacking it up, and it's all getting on my nerves. I am ready for a solid working stock phone that also has a physical keyboard, and this looks to be the one to use. It even has a 3.5mm audio jack to boot!

Picked mine up today, as an early upgrade from my busted G1. SUCH a good call. It runs smoother than I ever expected, the browser blazes, and the only gripes I have are the weird bubble icons and the actual Faves app.
Also, much to my surprise, Flash is installed and working on the phone, though most of the video websites I use don't work. However, being able to see the full national geographic page load on a mobile device... well, let me tell you, it's refreshing. I can't wait 'til they release the Froyo update.

Might be a stupid question here, but does anyone know how to change the wallpaper for the lock screen? I feel like I've tried everything.

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Might be a stupid question here, but does anyone know how to change the wallpaper for the lock screen? I feel like I've tried everything.
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It's pretty simple, but you have to do it through myModes. Hit the menu button while you're on your home screen, then go into myModes. Select "Change your Mode" and while you're there, you have options to change your wallpaper and lock screen, as well as whatever else.
Good luck.

I was gunna pick it up today, but the lady on the phone told me if I hold out till the 26th i'll hit my 18 month period on my contract and it will drop $50 in price. Gunna wait till then, my G1 still works.

Thanks slobatch. I think that's about the one place on the entire phone that I hadnt remembered to look at until you mentioned it.

Just got mine. The Genius button works pretty well, but I've never used voice recog stuff ever since it's been around on phones, so not sure how much use it will get.
I do like it's speed. Just trying to get the feel for it currently, but so far I like it.

I've been about half and half on the voice recognition. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Really picky about some things

I use Dragon dictation for voice input, and for those of us to speak the Queen's English well, it works. Awesome!
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The Voice so far has not failed, its seriosuly has to be the best voice controlled app ive used. Its been dead on in calling, and hicupps a tiny bit for text...which is all ive used it for thus far.
Gripes?
The sides the the keyboard are edged, they really should have been rounded (I can see myself taking a dremel to it lol), it gives it a minor uncomfortable feeling, but Im also comming form a Cliq (its leaps and bounds from that phone) so my hands are prolly still "formed" to it.
The phone as mentioned before...is a beast...and he potential it has once its been rooted is going to be fantastic. Now if we can just get a dev to pry their eyes from their noobN1s (thats right mikey, im lookin at you ) and take a look at it. The bloatware and stuff isnt much concern to me, because it will be taken care of once its rooted.
What would set me nice till then is a docking station, and a slim gel case..other wise..to me, its the best android phone w/ a keyboard tmo has to offer.

I picked one up this morning and I am glad I did. They nearly sold out before I showed up (20 minutes after the store opened). Right now I am in the process of reloading my music and CoPilot software while my fiance is napping. She is beyond tired of me testing this phone out today haha!
Mini-Review:
So far it has been very swift and almost too responsive. The phone part of it is very well done and the "linking" structure to hook up your social networks to contacts is very intuitive. Faves....meh. It has potential but I'm not seeing it yet. There isn't too much "bloatware" that concerns me on this phone that I have run in to. The keyboard is GREAT but I can see the concern in regards to the alphanumeric section of the keyboard being confusing. You get over that after a few emails though. My only gripe at the moment is that the market has been really slow and wonky but the same thing happened when I bumped up to 1.6 and 2.1 with CM5 on the G1. The market should be smooth in the next day or so. I'm sure the influx of everyone redownloading their paid apps is not helping. Ok, sorry for the randomness but I just thought I would throw some thoughts out.

i have to agree about the faves, bloatware and the 'odd' keyboard lettering....i also experienced the market being slow though i must say, the 3G has been 'blazing' in nyc...using the speedtest.net app i've consistently hit speeds well over 2 meg!!!!!

Is the Samsung Fascinate a good choice?

I'm due for an upgrade on Nov. 18th, and wanted to know the goods and bads of this phone from my fellow XDA Community. Basically, I want to know:
1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
I'm coming from a Droid Eris and want to get the best phone out there that can last me for a year.

Ok my personal opinion:
Camera is great!!!
Video Recording is great
Screen Is great!!!
GPS is quirky (might be fixed with 2.2 update)
Touchwiz is boring , slow etc
Great design!
But i got rid of mine, in hopes that the htc desire hd is being released this month on verizon! The new Sense UI is awesome .......my opinion others love stock android ui!

Just saw your coming from a HTC Eris..........then honestly if you like the Sense UI, dont get this!
Goodluck!

I came from an Eris too and I love this! (I got rid of the Sense UI on my Eris with a custom ROM) Personally I don't have any problem with lag even without a lagfix, my GPS works just fine, and call quality is great. It is a big improvement from the Eris, the battery life is definitely better, and I really have nothing bad to say about it. The only thing I miss is the LED notification but there are ways around that. The camera and camcorder work great - excellent picture quality, and no screen burn in that I have seen so far anyway.
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Wtf does HTC sense have to do with the Samsung phone. I never flame but that is dumb as hell to say. Touchwiz and sense are not even close. Besides. Put LP on there and forget it. People only slam it when its not their cup of tea. I have literally had every phone Verizon has release since the Droid 1 and I ****ing love my fascinate. The new HTC will likely be a ***** to root much like the others. And Verizon WILL NOT GET DESIRE HD. it will likely be the exact same phone but not called that. But in Sherwood's defense ill say that's one hella good looking phone. But I am gonna keep my fascinate til LTE and by the. That HTC will be shot BC it wont have LTE. if u want to be impressed read about how much better fascinate screen and CPU /GPU Are than any other phone. If u like to game the Samsung galaxy phones are the absolutely best made for that
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Untrue statement about Sense UI being better than Touchwiz. I have had the eris, incredible and now the facinate and touchwiz is just fine. Load ADW as your launcher and you will really dig this phone over the eris for sure.
IMO... GPS is not that big of an issue for me as there are some work arounds to get satellites to lock quicker and if I do get burn in on my screen I will have it replaced.With the 2.2 update just around the corner it should help make this a more solid phone. (Especially after the developers get a hold of it!) If your ok with the size of the incredible, there isn't a better phone made but it lacks a good car dock/mount and the best case ever made, "kickstand case". My incredible did have a little better cell signal also... Having said that, good luck. The facinate will be a huge upgrade from the eris. And as stated before, this is all (IMO) with experience with all three.
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Depending on your screen size preferences and the reviews you might want to take a look at the Samsung Continuum when it comes out - should be before your upgrade date. If you must have a notification when things happen then the ticker seems to be a great idea. We have yet to see how it affects battery life though.

1. Yes. Also depends on your level of annoyance to the lag.
2. No.
3. None evident at all, after a month and a half.
4. Yes. I have always loved the sammy panorama feature.
No regrets at all.
good day.

Coming from a moto droid this phone is great!
Camera and camcorder are great
gps is iffy at time but works prob get fixed
I like touchwiz and find it not laggy at all in fact its one of the only launchers that dont lag when used with lwp. I mean launcher pro does not lag alot but u can see it in the app drawer alittle touchwiz app drawer has zero lag.
I dont use lagfix (uninstalled) i see no need for it actually i think just running the stock deodexed rom makes for a super smooth experiance.

Problem is, I'm deciding between a Samsung Fascinate with AWESOME hardware (love that GPU) and a Droid X with 2. 2. It's hard!
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Go to a corporate store and play with both of them - I briefly considered the Droid X but when I tried it out in the store, it just seemed slow and somehow cumbersome and not just from the size - even stock the Fascinate was smoother to me.
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If you liked the ERIS......... stay with SENSE UI. Its hard to give it up. I regret it!!!
As far as Games , if you want a gaming phone WAIT TILL THERE ARE QUALITY GAMES. And not 1 year old IPHONE PORTS.
Wait a little longer trust me.
BTW I had the droid X the camera was complete garbage!!! And I prefer capacative buttons at the bottom and not tactile ones like the x.
But again stay with sense. You get alot of built in options stock instead of 3rd party addons to get same options. Like copy and paste, and scrollable widgets.
Goodluck!!

I'll just have to wait and see.

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1. Will the lagfix potentially fix any "lag" on the phone beforehand?
2. Is the GPS as bad as people say it is?
3. Is Screen Burn in a problem with the Super Amoled Screen?
4. Is the Camera and Camcorder any good?
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1. I don't notice any lag for normal use. It only really lags on me when installing things from the Market, but I'm guessing this is a general issue with Android
2. GPS lock can take 10-20 sec, but isn't that bad. I've found that always leaving GPS on as opposed to turning it off/on as needed helps keep the lag from being as bad.
3. Haven't noticed any burn in on my phone
4. I haven't taken many pictures yet, but the one's I have taken have been good for a phone camera
I'd say go to a store and play with both devices. After using the capacitive buttons on the Fascinate for a couple weeks now, the physical buttons of the Droid X seemed annoying when I played around with one a few days ago. Also, if you're waiting until the 18th, FroYo should be out not long after that, and that is when I'd expect a lot of development to start up for ROMs and kernels, so the software should hopefully catch up to the great hardware in a couple months.

Droid X VS Fascinate
I just picked up the Fascinate a few days ago after returning the X. I had the X for three weeks. I agree with the poster that noted how BAD the X camera is. So far with the sammy I have not had any issues lag,GPS or otherwise. I had a Tmo Vibrant and loved it. My only complaint about the fascinate is the lack of 2.2. Other than that I think its the perfect size and weight. I currently carry and iPhone 4 and the Fascinate. I dont think I have taken the iPhone out of my laptop bag since I got the Samsung.

you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw

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you should wait and see if the nexus two comes to vzw
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No, you shouldn't. Right now the Nexus Two is a mythical device that does not exist. Even if Google does decide to make one, it won't be out anytime soon, and there's a good chance it wouldn't be on Verizon first, if at all.
I came from an Eris myself, and had no problem dumping Sense UI. In fact, the last month I had it, I was running the KaosFroyo ROM, which is based on stock Froyo. Once I installed LauncherPro Plus, Dialer One, and a few other goodies, I realized that it was even better than when it ran Sense UI. If I were you, I would grab the Fascinate over the Droid X, because te hardware is superior, and Froyo will be out for it soon enough. Bing is a non-issue, since it can easily be removed by rooting, if you don't like it.
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Moving over from hd2

I can't wait for the roms to come out. Its simply amazing that my hd2 running android was actually faster than the samsung galaxy s2 but that is also disappointing given that I am supposes to be upgrading.
Having said that, at stock level the s2 its actually very good. Launcher pro is definitely faster than touchwiz. I have tried to stick with touchwiz but there doesn't seem to be any saving on battery life, hence no point when there are better home programs.
There are some debates about the gps but I get it working in seconds all the time even at home. The builds quality is really poor to the extent that I wanted too send it back the next day. It may be light but it doesn't exude style, more like cheapness. Battery is great without needing any compromise from me.
These comments are all compared too the hd2

hm, I also just migrated from HD2, but speed wise, none of the HD2 android builds I have tried comes even close to SGS II, so which build were you using?

Wtf u talking bout. Lol, android on hd2 was better than a lot of pure android phones. But against sgs2 ur crazy. What exactly is slow about touchwiz? Its not as integrated as sense but not slow on my device.
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I can't wait for the roms to come out. Its simply amazing that my hd2 running android was actually faster than the samsung galaxy s2 but that is also disappointing given that I am supposes to be upgrading.
Having said that, at stock level the s2 its actually very good. Launcher pro is definitely faster than touchwiz. I have tried to stick with touchwiz but there doesn't seem to be any saving on battery life, hence no point when there are better home programs.
There are some debates about the gps but I get it working in seconds all the time even at home. The builds quality is really poor to the extent that I wanted too send it back the next day. It may be light but it doesn't exude style, more like cheapness. Battery is great without needing any compromise from me.
These comments are all compared too the hd2
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I also had the HTC HD2 before buying the SGS2. I used to be a flashing maniac. Everytime something new was released I had to try if it was better than what I had already tried. But enough of that.
Once I got my SGS2 I knew why I felt like getting a new, real android phone in the first place. The SGS2 has beat my old HD2 in every aspect.
I only miss the weight of the HD2. After holding it for so long the SGS2 feels like you have nothing at all in your hands.
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Touchwiz is ok but the experience is not as smooth as the iphone. Nor is it as good as my experience with darkstone ram build

Yay another fake "i come from xxx phone and the sgs2 sux!"
The sgs2 is extremely fast and responsive on stock rom, so good luck trolling on that lol.

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I also had the HTC HD2 before buying the SGS2. I used to be a flashing maniac. Everytime something new was released I had to try if it was better than what I had already tried. But enough of that.
Once I got my SGS2 I knew why I felt like getting a new, real android phone in the first place. The SGS2 has beat my old HD2 in every aspect.
I only miss the weight of the HD2. After holding it for so long the SGS2 feels like you have nothing at all in your hands.
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+1, my thoughts exactly.
The HD2 was a fantastic phone, tons of ROMS and dev, but slow compared to the SG2

I don't mind the discussion but why the provocative choice of words.

+1 samething happens with every device released. Its either coming from xxx device or threatening current users with upcoming devices.
Hd2 is the flashers dream, and I have no problems with that device besides the fragile screen. But please remember that the hd2 is hacked/modded/tweaked to death. And I was there when it was just winmo 6.5. It was an extremely long process and has been in development for years now. Its a damn good android device but nowhere near the sgs2.
Its 10 times better than any iphone to above post.
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Yay another fake "i come from xxx phone and the sgs2 sux!"
The sgs2 is extremely fast and responsive on stock rom, so good luck trolling on that lol.
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Hmm, you must have a faulty GS2, as I had a GS2 for a bit, and it was so much faster than the HD2!
However, I'm back to HD2 now as the price GS2s were going for on ebay left me with no choice
If you're not making it up, can you please post your HD2 setup so I can make mine faster than a GS2 as well? I'd pay you if it worked!
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I probably should stop now as it is clear my experience is just mine. I use the darkstone ram build but with almost no other widget on. It was my weekend os as I needed windows mobile for work.
I certainly feel the iphone os had a more finished feel to the stock touchwiz. For example scrolling to the next screen with the ap news widget and the email widget below is not 100% smooth. A lot of you our there really love this phone and I don't mean to dispute.
In fact I wish I can delete this thread as it is now a meaningless reflection of my own and I accept that my opinions are not shared at all.

yeancheant said:
I probably should stop now as it is clear my experience is just mine. I use the darkstone ram build but with almost no other widget on. It was my weekend os as I needed windows mobile for work.
I certainly feel the iphone os had a more finished feel to the stock touchwiz. For example scrolling to the next screen with the ap news widget and the email widget below is not 100% smooth. A lot of you our there really love this phone and I don't mean to dispute.
In fact I wish I can delete this thread as it is now a meaningless reflection of my own and I accept that my opinions are not shared at all.
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Wow, I'm surprised that people are still using my build on the HD2
In some aspects the SuperRAM build will be faster since /system is completely in RAM. This is great for quick loading etc, but in terms of raw performance, the SGS2 has it beat
Still though, the HD2 is a great phone but I've moved on to the SGS2 now. I'll likely start working on this superphone some time soon

wow, i can't believe darkstone is commenting here haha - it was the last person i'd expect to see!
btw - i loved your ROMs, i was a major flashaholic with my HD2 ever since the beginning. Thanks for contributing to the huge breakthrough that was Android on the HD2! I still remember the first desire build
anyways, back to the thread topic
I'm currently using the HD2 and still waiting on Handtec to get stock for the 2nd preorder batch
The ONE MAJOR problem i had with the HD2 was that it did not have a "true" multitouch touch controller. Whenever two points were touched in parallel it would register it as one point of touch.
So my major issue was with TYPING on the HD2. I could never type fast because i had letters jumping here and there.
I temporarily switched to an Atrix and loved the multitouch keyboard. But after using it for about a month and reading about the S2 - i know what's better.
I had a bunch of issues with the Atrix as well so I cant wait to try out the S2. The qHD screen was nice , but the pentile matrix was too noticable for me. Plus it got WAAY too hot.
Here's hoping Handtec gets stock soon
AND I AM SO HAPPY DARKSTONE IS ON BOARD WITH THE S2!! I can't wait for custom roms

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Wow, I'm surprised that people are still using my build on the HD2
In some aspects the SuperRAM build will be faster since /system is completely in RAM. This is great for quick loading etc, but in terms of raw performance, the SGS2 has it beat
Still though, the HD2 is a great phone but I've moved on to the SGS2 now. I'll likely start working on this superphone some time soon
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Hey, I was quite happily using one of your ancient FroyoStone v3.1 (manually patched up and tweaked with my own stuff of course) until I jumped on the SGS2 just two days ago
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Mate, if you reckon the default TouchWiz interface is crap just ditch it and download one of the million launcher apps on the Market these days. I didn't bother with TouchWiz at all - I just migrated my entire LauncherPro setup from my HD2 to the SGS2. The only things that bug me on the SGS2 atm was the stupid battery drain (which I think I've just fixed this morning) and the lockscreen, which I'll be rid of as soon as someone ports over a stock Gingerbeard build.

I came over from Pongster's build because I was so fed up with custom notifications not working.
Only things I miss from the HD2 are the call end button, notification LED and easy access to the MicroSD card. Oh, and TomTom (in Windows of course).
The speed boost is really noticeable in comparison, especially on the Market when you're updating or installing several apps at once.
I'm baffled as to why Samsung made the card reader so hard to access with a battery removal.

Jonzza said:
I only miss the weight of the HD2. After holding it for so long the SGS2 feels like you have nothing at all in your hands.
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Well, yesterday I took my old HD2 in my hands after 3 weeks of using the Galaxy S II.
My reaction was: "How could I carry such an overweight brick for so long?"

I'll have a hard time leaving my old HD2 behind. It may be a heavy brick but it's a good looking and tough brick. And with AmericanAndroid's Gingerbread build and the MIUI Gingerbread builds it's also been really fast and efficient with battery.
*sniff* , oh well at the end of the day it still isn't a "real" android phone so it will be nice to see what that feels like. And I've always got a solid backup if the Sammy goes on the blink. Hopefully Darkstone will have some nice treats for us in the future as well. His Froyostone Sense build was my first HD2 Android experience.

Having moved over from the HD2 myself the only disadvantage I notice is a reduction in WiFi signal strength. The S2 is a lot faster though overall, there is simply no comparison in that respect and I have used virtually every HD2 Android build available at one time or other, both SD and nand.
I miss my MIUI roms though, I'm looking forward to the S2 getting them.

DarkStone1337 said:
I've moved on to the SGS2 now.
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Over the Evo 3D? :-o
The Evo 3D has the SGS2 beat in every way save for the hacky "internal storage." The screen especially is better on the Evo 3D (qHD S-LCD). Plus it, like, has 3D.
Hurry before it's too late and you're forced to buy the SGSII! XD

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Over the Evo 3D? :-o
The Evo 3D has the SGS2 beat in every way save for the hacky "internal storage." The screen especially is better on the Evo 3D (qHD S-LCD). Plus it, like, has 3D.
Hurry before it's too late and you're forced to buy the SGSII! XD
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Back under your bridge....
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