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[Q] Clockwork 3.xxxx Recoveries

I have been trying the CM7 Alpha ROM's, and to install them you need to have the 3.xxx recoveries. There are now versions of this from xx.2 (currently using it) up through xxx.5, and now xxxx.5.1.7-
Some posters over on the CM7 forum had stated that before the latest one above, the latter versions through xxxx.5 would not restore or wipe successfully. Asked about the latest above on the CM7 thread, but no response.
The developers are doing a great job over there, but the thread is getting cluttered with "social networking' and not a lot of useful information, so thought I would try here.

as far as the buiilt in restore I wasnt able to restore my OG stock I made from CWM 2.1.2.5 I tried the restore with 3.0.0.2 maybe I would need to restore from the 2.1.2.5 I made it from??? maybe I'll try it from the newest CWM...

bertscookie said:
as far as the buiilt in restore I wasnt able to restore my OG stock I made from CWM 2.1.2.5 I tried the restore with 3.0.0.2 maybe I would need to restore from the 2.1.2.5 I made it from??? maybe I'll try it from the newest CWM...
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You cannot backup or restore anything with cmw 3.xxx except android 2.3 (like cm7). For all android 2.2X, you have to use cmw 2,xxx only.

gaww said:
You cannot backup or restore anything with cmw 3.xxx except android 2.3 (like cm7). For all android 2.2X, you have to use cmw 2,xxx only.
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ahhhhhh great to know.

[Q] Restoring my mt4g

I rooted my phone. I flashed it. and i was attempting to put in iced glacier. I messed up one of the steps -.-
On the clockworkmod recovery i backed up my phone.
I restored it then hit reboot now.
I've waited for a while.. But all i'm getting is the mytough 4g screen >.<
Any ideas?

boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data

cybereclipse said:
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
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I think I am in the same boat as the OP.
I rooted the Mt4g, backed up stock Sense Froyo with Clockworkmod 3, then installed Cyanogenmod 7 with Clockworkmod 3.
I want to revert back to the stock Sense Froyo. I simply did a restore in Clockworkmod 3 to my Sense Froyo backup, and now all it shows is the white Mt4g screen.
Will clearing the cache and data before restoring the Sense Froyo be my fix too?
Thanks. OP, didnt mean to take over your thread but I think we are having the same issue so didnt want to make another thread.

The version of ClockworkMod Recovery you are using MATTERS. It MATTERS VERY MUCH.
Froyo based ROMs, including Stock and Iced Glacier, must be backed up, restored, and installed with CWMR Version 2. Gingerbread based ROMs such as CM7 must be backed up, restored, and installed with CWMR Version 3.
A higher number does not mean better. There are filesystem differences between Froyo and Gingerbread that require the correct tools.
There is a custom version of CWMR for the MT4G that can handle both types of filesystems (assuming you haven't already used the wrong tools) -- it is called version "3.0.0.6" -- you can look for it on the Development Sub Forum.

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I did not know that information at the time when I created the restore file.
When restoring with Clockworkmod 3 failed, I flashed Clockworkmod 2 and restored the recovery made by 3 using 2. Its working so far... It did show one or two errors when I restored.

cybereclipse said:
boot back into recovery and clear cache, advanced>dalvik cache, and data
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So i'm new to all of this.
I don't want to make the wrong move.
I've got CWMR v3.0.0.5
Just to be clear. I go into CWMR. Do i wipe cache partition, then wipe dalvik cache, wipe data.. then restore again? or reboot system now?
OR do I need to flash CWMR 2 or 3.0.0.6? If so. How do i do that without going through rom manager? I'm noob.
Thanks!

Frankasaurus said:
So i'm new to all of this.
I don't want to make the wrong move.
I've got CWMR v3.0.0.5
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That is incompatible with Iced Glacier. You can't use 3.0.0.5 with Iced Glacier, or with the Stock ROM. Ever.
In addition, clearing /cache and /data and the Dalvik cache (which is inside of the /data partition, so won't actually do anything if /data is also reformatted) will not solve your problem. Because ....
The partition with the problem is /system -- which is where the ROM lives. That partition is now in EXT4 format, which a Froyo-based ROM cannot access. The Froyo kernel boots (from the /boot partition) and gets errors when it looks in /system.... and reboots. Hence, your boot loop.
Your easiest fix would be to install CM7 so that you have a functional Android OS on your phone. THEN ..... after getting CM7 running, flash a version 2 image of CWMR from ROM Manager (included in CM7), then boot it, and install Iced Glacier.

jggimi said:
Your easiest fix would be to install CM7 so that you have a functional Android OS on your phone. THEN ..... after getting CM7 running, flash a version 2 image of CWMR from ROM Manager (included in CM7), then boot it, and install Iced Glacier.
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Sounds like that's the course of action. Any threads leading to how to install CM7 in my situation? I'm watching youtube videos on different things trying to learn the best option. But I don't really want to trust tho

From Recovery 3.0.0.5, mount your SD card for use with USB (in the mounts and storage menu) and transfer a CM7 .zip to the card. Get it from http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
Factory wipe / System Reset from the main menu of Recovery, and install the .zip as you did Iced Glacier.
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CM7 does not include Google Apps. If you were intending to actually =use= the ROM instead of using it temporarily as part of a rescue process, you will likely want them. The .zip can be found at http://android.d3xt3r01.tk/cyanogen/gapps/gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip -- install from Recovery after installing CM7.
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Boot CM7. You'll find ROM Manager in the App drawer. Use it to Flash a version 2.x CWM Recovery -- look under "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom of the ROM Manager main screen.
Long press the power button. Select Reboot. CM7 will prompt you for what kind of boot. Select Recovery.
Do another full wipe/factory reset. Install Iced Glacier .zip as you did previously, and reboot.

jggimi said:
CM7 does not include Google Apps. If you were intending to actually =use= the ROM instead of using it temporarily as part of a rescue process, you will likely want them. The .zip can be found at ... -- install from Recovery after installing CM7.
Boot CM7. You'll find ROM Manager in the App drawer. Use it to Flash a version 2.x CWM Recovery -- look under "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom of the ROM Manager main screen.
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So the second zip is only if I want to keep the CM7 ROM? If I do, then I use that zip to get Google Apps?
Also, before I look under "All ClockworkMod recoveries" will I have to install CWM recovery 3.0.0.6 or 2.x first?
In that case. I'll do some research on CM7 too. Idk if iced glacier is better or CM7. Maybe it just depends on preference?

Frankasaurus said:
So the second zip is only if I want to keep the CM7 ROM? If I do, then I use that zip to get Google Apps?
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Correct.
Also, before I look under "All ClockworkMod recoveries" will I have to install CWM recovery 3.0.0.6 or 2.x first?
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3.0.0.6 could be used instead of a 2.x version. But it requires its own manual install. Based on the questions in this thread, I'm not recommending CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 at this point, as you folks do not have a functioning Android system and would have to modify the 3.0.0.6 install procedures. There's only so much knowledge a person can absorb at once. Get your phones working, first.
In that case. I'll do some research on CM7 too. Idk if iced glacier is better or CM7. Maybe it just depends on preference?
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It is =entirely= a matter of personal preference. There are plenty of people who prefer one over the other. There are also those who prefer neither, and are using yet again another ROM. Poke around in the forum threads here to get a feel for what people think.

jggimi said:
3.0.0.6 could be used instead of a 2.x version. But it requires its own manual install. Based on the questions in this thread, I'm not recommending CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 at this point, as you folks do not have a functioning Android system and would have to modify the 3.0.0.6 install procedures. There's only so much knowledge a person can absorb at once. Get your phones working, first.
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sweet. So i'll go with the 2.x version then. In that case, I won't have to install it? it'll just be there?
I'm not at home so I can't try any of it out yet. Just trying to learn as much as i can first

ROM Manager should be able to pull the image from the Internet. CM7, even without Google Apps, should automagically connect your phone and its number and its data plane to T-Mobile's network.

zomg. this is sweet. Thanks for all your help!!! I'm gonna keep CM7 for now. I installed the google app zip. Any suggestions on where to start exploring? The main thing that i wanted to root my phone for was to take screenshots. threads? Bah. so much to explore!

So if on 3.0.0.6 and wanting to go from CM7 to IG, you recommend going into "all clockworkmod recoveries", switching over to a 2.0 version (does it matter which?), and then doing backup, wipe, install?

No. 3.0.0.6 is a unique, one-off version that supports both ext3 and ext4 file systems, and deals correctly with both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
If you were on 3.0.0.5, and wished to install a Froyo ROM, you would back up first, before flashing a 2.x Recovery. Think about it.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5

jggimi said:
No. 3.0.0.6 is a unique, one-off version that supports both ext3 and ext4 file systems, and deals correctly with both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
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So I can just go directly into recovery from Rom Manager and backup/wipe/install Iced Glacier?

Yep. Please see the threads on it in the development sub forum.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5

jggimi said:
Yep. Please see the threads on it in the development sub forum.
HTC Glacier CM7 #5
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Been reading them, but there is 371 pages in the nighlies thread, and 54 pages in the RC7 thread...I'm bound to miss a thing or two, I'm human
But thank you!

The 3.0.0.6 threads. Much lighter reading.
HTC Glacier CM7 #something

[Warining!!!]The CWM Recovery 3.0.0.5 may not be working properly!

WHAT I HAVE DONE:
Backuped my rom with 3.0.0.5 to mess up with my rom.
Replaced framework-res.apk to get some new icons.
New framework-res.apk crashed my phone.
Tried to restore backup with 3.0.0.5.
Find myself stucked at "HTC".
Tried to flash MIUI rom from official MIUI website, MD5 checked.
Still stucked.
Went back to recovery 2.5.1.3.
Tried to restore backup created by 3.0.0.5.
Everything is OK now.
ORIGINAL PROBLEM:
Under 3.0.0.5 Backup restore failed+Flash MIUI ROM failed+HBOOT OK+Tested 13 times!!!!
symptom: Stuck at "HTC"
Went back to 2.5.1.3 and Flash MIUI ROM OK.
Now trying to restore backup created by 3.0.0.5...
Hope no more bricked DHD....
Want more discuss...
This recovery come with CWM Rom Manager 3.0.0.7 following recovery flash from Internet.
MD5: 5E457EDCC2CC8AF60E7B8EB10E1BBF8A
UPDATE: My DHD alive again...
Anybody would like to give it a try may follow this:
Make sure you are using version 3.0.0.5.
Backup your current rom (Make sure you have enough rom on your TF card, there won't be an warning if you failed because of lack of disk space!!! 2GB free recommend). (The backup function seemed OK...)
Mess your system up. (Delete some important files such like framework-res.apk...)
restore backup...
Here I get stucked at "HTC" (AKA first boot screen, defined by manufactor.)
RESTORING:
Boot into HBOOT, then fastboot, flash CWM Recovery 2.5.1.3. (Attached)
restore....
It's alive now...

Don´t be so paranoic...
It depends if the Rom is made for CWM 3.0.0.5. If not its not working...
And of course u can´t restore a backup with 3.0.0.5 which was done with CWM 2.5.1.3

Are you certain of this?
I need the devs and Senior Members opinion's please.

Kelthizar said:
Don´t be so paranoic...
It depends if the Rom is made for CWM 3.0.0.5. If not its not working...
And of course u can´t restore a backup with 3.0.0.5 which was done with CWM 2.5.1.13
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I don't think recovery have anything to do with my rom. According to my 3 years android messing up history.
On the other hand, if that's true, there should be an warning when I flash my recovery through CWM Rom Manager.

CWM 3.x is fine. Been flashing roms with it since january (or december). A lot of people actually.
Edit: recovery has to do with the roms. Cwm 3 requires the updater script(edify). Also, cwm 3.0.0.5 from rom manager works fine for backup/restore. If you flashed it on your own before it was made available through rom manager, then its probably the test version which had probs restoring.
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M_T_M said:
Are you certain of this?
I need the devs and Senior Members opinion's please.
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The recovery works fine. Some people are just not aware that CWM 2 backups are not compatible with CWM 3 backups, and vice versa. There is also another compatibility problem, zips intended for CWM 2 do not work with CWM 3.
So there is no real issue with CWM, just some compatibility problems, and those can not / will not be fixed. It is the way software evolves..

jkoljo said:
The recovery works fine. Some people are just not aware that CWM 2 backups are not compatible with CWM 3 backups, and vice versa. There is also another compatibility problem, zips intended for CWM 2 do not work with CWM 3.
So there is no real issue with CWM, just some compatibility problems, and those can not / will not be fixed. It is the way software evolves..
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Restored my backup created by 3.0.0.5 using 2.5.1.3, strange result according to your opinion...

It also depends on the ROM and it's filesystem, but the rule of thumb is, don't even try it.

Kelthizar said:
Don´t be so paranoic...
It depends if the Rom is made for CWM 3.0.0.5. If not its not working...
And of course u can´t restore a backup with 3.0.0.5 which was done with CWM 2.5.1.3
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phunkycow said:
CWM 3.x is fine. Been flashing roms with it since january (or december). A lot of people actually.
Edit: recovery has to do with the roms. Cwm 3 requires the updater script(edify). Also, cwm 3.0.0.5 from rom manager works fine for backup/restore. If you flashed it on your own before it was made available through rom manager, then its probably the test version which had probs restoring.
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jkoljo said:
The recovery works fine. Some people are just not aware that CWM 2 backups are not compatible with CWM 3 backups, and vice versa. There is also another compatibility problem, zips intended for CWM 2 do not work with CWM 3.
So there is no real issue with CWM, just some compatibility problems, and those can not / will not be fixed. It is the way software evolves..
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Post updated, a little bit long to read it through... but please...
My "ROM" is referring to the current system+user data+whatever else inside my nand, not the one in my update.zip. If you would like to know.
Once I learned recovery backup rom exactly the way it is, just like what Norton Ghost do to your hard disk, so if backup and restore not working, the files must be broken. Otherwise it's the recovery's fault.

[Q] Stock ROM->Cyanogen Via Androot and RomManager?

Is it possible to go from Stock ROM to CyanogenMod via this path:
1. Using Universial Androot to root
2. Install RomManager from the market
3. Install Clockworkmod recovery 3.0.6 from Rom Manager
4. Install CyanogenMod from RomManager
That would be very easy compared to using adb. And it does not require a PC like the various one click root methods.
It should work?

I am asking because these optiions are already in the cyanogenmod wiki (some of them put there by me)
And if it works without problems, it should probably be the recommended update path.
I might try it out myself, but it requires me to go back to stock rom, which I haven't done before. If I understand correctly, it is not possible to flash a 1.6 ROM from a new Clockworkmod recovery, I would have to go back to maverick or amon ra recevery?
I am running Cyanogenmod nb 12, and clockworkmod recovery 3.0.6 at the moment.

to get back to stock rom, you just have to connect your phone to the PC, and double click the .exe of the ROM

I am not using windows, and do not have a rom exe file. I rooted and flashed my phone via adb on linux. I do have a nandroid backup of my stock room after it was rooted though.

Then flash back the old amonra recovery, before restoring your backup because it won t work with the latest clockworkmod

christick said:
Then flash back the old amonra recovery, before restoring your backup because it won t work with the latest clockworkmod
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Ok thanks, I just heard from some one at cyanogen that using RomManager to flash the recorvery on a rooted stock rom won't work. So I guess the update path in the first post is not valid...

finnk said:
It should work?
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Uhm... I think not: is missing the "insmod tattoo-hack.ko" and it will fail the "remount" operation (and then the flash).
IMHO.
Bye
Diego

diego72 said:
Uhm... I think not: is missing the "insmod tattoo-hack.ko" and it will fail the "remount" operation (and then the flash).
IMHO.
Bye
Diego
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Yes, I think you are right. Stock rom needs the tattohack loaded before flashing a recovery.

finnk said:
Yes, I think you are right. Stock rom needs the tattohack loaded before flashing a recovery.
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Well, i had a CyanogenMod "installed" on my tatto, and i flashed it back to the stock 1.6 rom without installing anything, without problem.
i guess that's the question, isn't it?

I used the method you're saying, Androot+Flash Recovery from Rom Manager to the latest ClockworkMod and unfortunately it's not working.
I don't know if it is because the new clockworkmod but my advice is don't use this method. I posted some questions in other threads but nobody could help me.
I reflashed Clockwork several times even to 3.0.6, but the startup recovery menu still the same.

[Q] I did a baaad thing with clockwork recovery.

I installed a custom ROM that came with the rom manager app. Being curious, i clicked it. Something happened, and I booted into recovery. Previously I have had Amon Ra recovery, and now I have clockwork. WHAT HAVE I DONE??? Is this bad, or should I just go with this new recovery. Thanks in advance.

matt.pope.universal said:
I installed a custom ROM that came with the rom manager app. Being curious, i clicked it. Something happened, and I booted into recovery. Previously I have had Amon Ra recovery, and now I have clockwork. WHAT HAVE I DONE??? Is this bad, or should I just go with this new recovery. Thanks in advance.
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All you did was install clock work, personally I prefer AmonRa on G1, since it has the sd partition setting. CWR is newer so you might as well use it, when you get a newer phone I recommend 4EXT recovery.

Thanks for the fast reply. So I should probably just put AmonRa though fastboot?

matt.pope.universal said:
Thanks for the fast reply. So I should probably just put AmonRa though fastboot?
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That will work but both recoveries do the same basic things. No real advantages, unless you need the Amon_Ra specific features; don't forget CWR has some newer features since Amon isn't updated anymore.