I have been trying the CM7 Alpha ROM's, and to install them you need to have the 3.xxx recoveries. There are now versions of this from xx.2 (currently using it) up through xxx.5, and now xxxx.5.1.7-
Some posters over on the CM7 forum had stated that before the latest one above, the latter versions through xxxx.5 would not restore or wipe successfully. Asked about the latest above on the CM7 thread, but no response.
The developers are doing a great job over there, but the thread is getting cluttered with "social networking' and not a lot of useful information, so thought I would try here.
as far as the buiilt in restore I wasnt able to restore my OG stock I made from CWM 2.1.2.5 I tried the restore with 3.0.0.2 maybe I would need to restore from the 2.1.2.5 I made it from??? maybe I'll try it from the newest CWM...
bertscookie said:
as far as the buiilt in restore I wasnt able to restore my OG stock I made from CWM 2.1.2.5 I tried the restore with 3.0.0.2 maybe I would need to restore from the 2.1.2.5 I made it from??? maybe I'll try it from the newest CWM...
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You cannot backup or restore anything with cmw 3.xxx except android 2.3 (like cm7). For all android 2.2X, you have to use cmw 2,xxx only.
gaww said:
You cannot backup or restore anything with cmw 3.xxx except android 2.3 (like cm7). For all android 2.2X, you have to use cmw 2,xxx only.
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ahhhhhh great to know.
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WHAT I HAVE DONE:
Backuped my rom with 3.0.0.5 to mess up with my rom.
Replaced framework-res.apk to get some new icons.
New framework-res.apk crashed my phone.
Tried to restore backup with 3.0.0.5.
Find myself stucked at "HTC".
Tried to flash MIUI rom from official MIUI website, MD5 checked.
Still stucked.
Went back to recovery 2.5.1.3.
Tried to restore backup created by 3.0.0.5.
Everything is OK now.
ORIGINAL PROBLEM:
Under 3.0.0.5 Backup restore failed+Flash MIUI ROM failed+HBOOT OK+Tested 13 times!!!!
symptom: Stuck at "HTC"
Went back to 2.5.1.3 and Flash MIUI ROM OK.
Now trying to restore backup created by 3.0.0.5...
Hope no more bricked DHD....
Want more discuss...
This recovery come with CWM Rom Manager 3.0.0.7 following recovery flash from Internet.
MD5: 5E457EDCC2CC8AF60E7B8EB10E1BBF8A
UPDATE: My DHD alive again...
Anybody would like to give it a try may follow this:
Make sure you are using version 3.0.0.5.
Backup your current rom (Make sure you have enough rom on your TF card, there won't be an warning if you failed because of lack of disk space!!! 2GB free recommend). (The backup function seemed OK...)
Mess your system up. (Delete some important files such like framework-res.apk...)
restore backup...
Here I get stucked at "HTC" (AKA first boot screen, defined by manufactor.)
RESTORING:
Boot into HBOOT, then fastboot, flash CWM Recovery 2.5.1.3. (Attached)
restore....
It's alive now...
Don´t be so paranoic...
It depends if the Rom is made for CWM 3.0.0.5. If not its not working...
And of course u can´t restore a backup with 3.0.0.5 which was done with CWM 2.5.1.3
Are you certain of this?
I need the devs and Senior Members opinion's please.
Kelthizar said:
Don´t be so paranoic...
It depends if the Rom is made for CWM 3.0.0.5. If not its not working...
And of course u can´t restore a backup with 3.0.0.5 which was done with CWM 2.5.1.13
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I don't think recovery have anything to do with my rom. According to my 3 years android messing up history.
On the other hand, if that's true, there should be an warning when I flash my recovery through CWM Rom Manager.
CWM 3.x is fine. Been flashing roms with it since january (or december). A lot of people actually.
Edit: recovery has to do with the roms. Cwm 3 requires the updater script(edify). Also, cwm 3.0.0.5 from rom manager works fine for backup/restore. If you flashed it on your own before it was made available through rom manager, then its probably the test version which had probs restoring.
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M_T_M said:
Are you certain of this?
I need the devs and Senior Members opinion's please.
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The recovery works fine. Some people are just not aware that CWM 2 backups are not compatible with CWM 3 backups, and vice versa. There is also another compatibility problem, zips intended for CWM 2 do not work with CWM 3.
So there is no real issue with CWM, just some compatibility problems, and those can not / will not be fixed. It is the way software evolves..
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The recovery works fine. Some people are just not aware that CWM 2 backups are not compatible with CWM 3 backups, and vice versa. There is also another compatibility problem, zips intended for CWM 2 do not work with CWM 3.
So there is no real issue with CWM, just some compatibility problems, and those can not / will not be fixed. It is the way software evolves..
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Restored my backup created by 3.0.0.5 using 2.5.1.3, strange result according to your opinion...
It also depends on the ROM and it's filesystem, but the rule of thumb is, don't even try it.
Kelthizar said:
Don´t be so paranoic...
It depends if the Rom is made for CWM 3.0.0.5. If not its not working...
And of course u can´t restore a backup with 3.0.0.5 which was done with CWM 2.5.1.3
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phunkycow said:
CWM 3.x is fine. Been flashing roms with it since january (or december). A lot of people actually.
Edit: recovery has to do with the roms. Cwm 3 requires the updater script(edify). Also, cwm 3.0.0.5 from rom manager works fine for backup/restore. If you flashed it on your own before it was made available through rom manager, then its probably the test version which had probs restoring.
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jkoljo said:
The recovery works fine. Some people are just not aware that CWM 2 backups are not compatible with CWM 3 backups, and vice versa. There is also another compatibility problem, zips intended for CWM 2 do not work with CWM 3.
So there is no real issue with CWM, just some compatibility problems, and those can not / will not be fixed. It is the way software evolves..
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Post updated, a little bit long to read it through... but please...
My "ROM" is referring to the current system+user data+whatever else inside my nand, not the one in my update.zip. If you would like to know.
Once I learned recovery backup rom exactly the way it is, just like what Norton Ghost do to your hard disk, so if backup and restore not working, the files must be broken. Otherwise it's the recovery's fault.
*Evil 4G-G2 v.2 rom
Im having trouble flashing this rom....
Backed up
Deleted portion.
Installed from SD
Then Reboot system
Then it gets stuck on MT4G boot screen.
I my mytouch is updated to the latest update through Tmobile(I dont know if this is the problem)
Its rooted 100% with S-off.
Please help out OH and Clockwork is V.3xx
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...OH and Clockwork is V.3xx
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There's your problem.
ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.5 is for Gingerbread-based (Android 2.3) ROMs. Evil 4G is a Froyo-based (Android 2.2) ROM. These different versions of Android use incompatible filesystems.
How to recover:
1. Download CyanogenMod 7, a Gingerbread-based ROM, to your PC. Choose the newest release candidate (RC2) or the most recently Nightly build.
2. Boot into CWM Recovery, select "mounts and storage" and make your SD card mountable via USB.
3. Copy the CM7 .zip file to your SD card.
4. Install the .zip after a full wipe / factory reset
5. If you want to stay with CM7, also download the Google Applications (Gapps) .zip to your PC, copy to your SD card and and install it after you complete the install of CM7.
6. Boot CM7.
7. If you want to install Evil 4G, run Rom Manager and have it flash CWM Recovery 2.5.1.2, then reboot into Recovery, full wipe / factory reset, and install Evil as previously planned.
Thanks Ill get on it....
So could I just get CM7 on there then get an older version of clockwork to use the backup I made for the Mytouch rom I had before?
Or is the backup I made pretty much lost because Im using Clockwork V3?
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Thanks Ill get on it....
So could I just get CM7 on there then get an older version of clockwork to use the backup I made for the Mytouch rom I had before?
Or is the backup I made pretty much lost because Im using Clockwork V3?
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Your backup was made with an incompatible version of CWM Recovery. It may not be usable. That said, some people have reported in the some of the many many threads on this subject that they have been able to restore a Froyo backup made with V3, while running V2. Your results might match theirs. The steps I show above let you stop at CM7 or continue on to Evil 4G, and do not include restoring your Stock ROM.
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Thanks Ill get on it....
So could I just get CM7 on there then get an older version of clockwork to use the backup I made for the Mytouch rom I had before?
Or is the backup I made pretty much lost because Im using Clockwork V3?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944681
this gets you running with the 2 versions of recovery, one for froyo, one for gingerbread. whichever backup you want to restore, just use the matching recovery so your old backup is fine
I neglected to mention CWMR 3.0.0.6, that camrs73 just posted about, with a link to its main thread. This is a custom version of CWM Recovery built by option94 that supports both Froyo and Gingerbread filesystems. In order to install it, you need to have a functioning Android system first. You can install it =after= you get CM7 or Evil 4G up and running.
Ok thank God lol
Thanks for the Input guys Ill flash CM7 then download that Clock work and let you know how it went.
* Update im running Cm7 and getting CW installed.
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* Update im running Cm7 and getting CW installed.
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From here if you install 3.0.0.6 Clockwork recovery image (link in my signature) you can flash between 2.2 and 2.3 ROMS w/o any problems.
Yes!!! Im saved!!!
Thanks jggimi ,camrs73 and of coarse neidlinger for your clockwork mod!!
One more question...can I have more than one backup saved on Clockwork?
you can have as many as storage space allows and flash whichever one you feel like at the time (with the appropriate recovery of course)
I've been trying to use clockwork mod backup so that I can try out roms and easily get back to my stable leedroid 2.2.3 setup.
So when trying out the sense v2.3 and cm7 roms, I did a clockwork mod v3 backup just before (after updating to it from rom manager so I can flash the gingerbread roms)
I haven't found a gingerbread rom yet that I like over my 2.2 setup, so I'm now trying to restore the backup. Even when using the full-wipe.zip and then the full restore with clockwork mod, I have a few issues:
1. The boot animation is not restored - Just have the stock android text.
2. Lots of issues when the rom boots - force closes of sense etc.
I thought the clockwork mod backup was supposed to do a bit-by-bit backup of all the partitions, so when restoring you should be back to exactly the same state. Yet clearly this is not true. Any ideas on how I can restore the backup, or do I need to start from scratch and restore my titanium backup?
I've had quite a few other issues with clockworkmod as well - like needing to use the full-wipe when clockworkmod claims it's already wiped those partitions. Seems to be quite buggy - is there an alternative recovery for the DHD? I know that CM is the standard but it seems to be not working very well at all.
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... To be flashed with CWM 2.xx.xx...
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The problem might be there...
I've had these same problems moving between froyo roms with CWM 2.xx.xx . Also I didn't flash leedroid - I tried to restore a CWM backup, made with 3.x , using 3.x.
Yes but there has been some reports in the leedroid thread that backup and restore doesn't work with CWM 3.x.x.x, that's why 2.x.x.x is recommended in the OP.
Edit: Wrong forum. 6+ windows of XDA can confuse anyone. Sorry
Hi, Since new roms need to use CWM to install, and i have my stock backup in xRecovery, my question is. How can i port my stock backup to CWM ?
or i need to go back to stock and install CWM make a new backup ?
Any other solution ?
Thanks
You must back and then install.
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Hmm ok
Thanks
You can install your xrecovery backup with CWM. There is option for this
can we install and use both recoveries in a single rom???
newdon07 said:
can we install and use both recoveries in a single rom???
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Most new ROMs have them both installed but If you haven't, install DualRecovery.zip from the multiboot thread in the development section.
CWM vs xRecovery
I don't want to hijack the OP, but I wanted to understand what the difference between xRecovery and Clockwork Mod.
I originally understood xRecovery was developed as an alternate to CWM because CWM couldn't access certain section of SE's firmware. Am I wrong?
How come we're seeing xRecovery and CWM used together now?
Thanks!
CWM is using a newer type of update-script and it can do more than xrecovery, but this scripting method is more complicated and must be configurated for every device, and I guess that´s why some of the X8´s ROMs are still using xrecovery/amend scripting.
So it´s better when you have them both.
I just rooted my girlfriend's year old fascinate that was bone stock from day 1. In CWM I am unable to make a nandroid (I get an error). I've heard I need a modded stock kernel in order to successfully make a backup in CWM 3.x or something along those lines.
I looked in the developer forum under the sticky with the list of everything, but it only shows three or so kernels (none of which hint at stock).
I have a Thunderbolt and before that a Droid 2 so I know a lot about rooting and flashing with those two devices, but I am new to the Fascinate. I messed around a bit with Odin when I rooted the phone, but I'm still learning.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Older recoveries supported amend scripting (2.x.x) while newer ones support edify scripting (3.x.x)...depending on which rom your running it may cause problems with backups and restores if you don't have the right recovery...unless you plan on going to an Mtd build (cm7, Miui, ect) I would recommend using the (2.5.1) recovery also called the 3/30 fix all recovery because this version supports both amend and edify scripting..so you make a nandroid with out issues....if you can get to recovery still I would install this zip and then select reboot recovery...it will bring you to the 3/30 fix all recovery where you should be able to backup and restore your nandroid...link to follow shortly...
Scroll down in the first page to the .zip file, download and continue with the steps I listed...I know its confusing at first mainly because development has happens rather quickly which is a good thing! its just a lot to catch up on!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
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What would you recommend if my plan was to install MIUI or OMFGB?
I'm deciding between those two because I use OMFGB on my Thunderbolt all the time, but MIUI is very good for my girlfriend I think because it's very straight forward and simplistic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124391
Its not hard to get in to these roms, but you must be sure if you have problems or want to go to anything non Mtd you will have to Odin an official VZW tar and pit file to repartition before going to any non Mtd rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124391
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So basically:
1. Flash the CWM you posted in your original reply
2. Nandroid her current stock setup
3. Flash MIUI
4. If I ever want to return to stock or a non-mtd rom I have to do what's posted in your second reply?
If all that is correct please let me know. Also lets say she doesn't like MIUI, can I simply flash that nandroid or will I have to do what's posted in the second reply?
When I try to flash that older CWM in CWM I get this message:
http://i.imgur.com/3QiwQ.jpg
want a droid said:
So basically:
1. Flash the CWM you posted in your original reply
2. Nandroid her current stock setup
3. Flash MIUI
4. If I ever want to return to stock or a non-mtd rom I have to do what's posted in your second reply?
If all that is correct please let me know. Also lets say she doesn't like MIUI, can I simply flash that nandroid or will I have to do what's posted in the second reply?
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Yes you will have to do what's in the second reply.
You have it all correct, if you nandroid her current stock setup you can only restore it on a non Mtd build you would have to do what I linked to in the second post to use a vzw rom with pit file to repartition...boot fully, flash recovery then you could restore her stock nandroid..for example you get her on Miui you can only do a nandroid with the recovery that comes with it...I think its a 4.x.x recovery...trying to restore the stock nandroid before repartitioning back to stock will cause problems...so basically you only want to restore a nandroid on the same build (Mtd to Mtd nandroid, or ext4/rfs to ext4/rfs nandroid) and if all else fails and you run into big problems, doing the VZW restore (although can be a lengthy process) will get the phone back running to start over!
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Did you see my reply before this? I was unable to get CWM 2.x to flash so I'm still on CWM 3.x.
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Did you see my reply before this? I was unable to get CWM 2.x to flash so I'm still on CWM 3.x.
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I did see it after I replied, is her phone on ed05? I'm surprised that neither the 3/30 fix all or 3.x.x is working
Edit after looking at the pick again you're using times infinity's recovery....you would need to Odin the 3/30 fix all recovery and immediately three finger boot into recovery without letting the phone boot or if you installed the 3/30 fix all via .zip file, you need to choose reboot recovery to enter the fix all one, it should be 2.5.1 I believe
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Here's a picture of her phone info:
http://i.imgur.com/rs1Jd.jpg
And as you can tell from the other photo, both making a backup and flashing the CWM 2.x doesn't work.
Trying a backup results in: "Error while backing up boot image!"
Trying to flash CWM 2.x results in that long information message.
That sucks man i'm sorry I've never been on ed05 so I don't know if that why your having problems my suggestion...back up all her contacts by exporting them to sd card, download titanium backup its free in the market, backup all of her apps and screw the nandroid, flash what you want, restore her apps with titanium, but do not restore data, restore get contacts and then boot into the recovery that comes with the rom/kernel and then do a nandroid and that WILL work..again sorry for the trouble, just trying to help.
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I appreciate all your help. I'll let you know how it goes.
ed05 is not the problem...You have to use cwm 2.5.1.x if your trying to nandroid backup a stock rom. This version of cwm works on all froyo roms and powerwashed gingerbread. After you make a nandroid with cwm2.5.1.x, then flash cwm4 and proceed to installing miui.
Read this link for flashing mtd based roms such as miui, cm7, vgb...etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212239
That was my first reply to him...to use 2.5.1 but he said he still got errors? I don't have a clue what the problem is...he's said he's used ti's 3x.x, and the 3/30 fix all still with errors? confused?
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droidstyle said:
ed05 is not the problem...You have to use cwm 2.5.1.x if your trying to nandroid backup a stock rom. This version of cwm works on all froyo roms and powerwashed gingerbread. After you make a nandroid with cwm2.5.1.x, then flash cwm4 and proceed to installing miui.
Read this link for flashing mtd based roms such as miui, cm7, vgb...etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212239
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I guess you skipped the entire thread, but we already went through all that.
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I guess you skipped the entire thread, but we already went through all that.
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I think you skipped a step... Are you flashin cwm via the PDA function in ODIN?
If not you need to:
ODIN the cwmAll.tar here: http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1359&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1238070&v=1&libid=1316306736482&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2F%3F6x5utoca59et7o9&title=%5BGUIDE%5D%20Installing%20a%20rom%2F%20cwm%20recovery%2F%20or%20going%20back%20to%20stock%20for%20NEWBIES!%20-%20xda-developers&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2F%3F6x5utoca59et7o9&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13163071702031
make a nandroid back up of the stock rom.
go back to odin and flash the jt's cwm4
boot into recovery
wipe data, cache, dalvik
install miui.zipfrom sd card
Follow the rest of the directions in the link I provided
+1 there ya go. Beat me to it.
Plus, I wouldn't even worry about backing up your stock ROM. Just flash the full official package. This will wipe your slate clean if you run into problems. Restoring nandroid backups leads to glitches eventually from what I've seen.
Sorry, I didn't see there was a second page here...I'm a bum.
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I guess you skipped the entire thread, but we already went through all that.
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Should probably try not being a **** when you're begging for help from people.
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Personally, I thought his reply was honest and effective. I commend him on his frankness, and respect him for his boldness.
grenade01 said:
Personally, I thought his reply was honest and effective. I commend him on his frankness, and respect him for his boldness.
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Really? Snide, snarky comments are respectable? At the very least, they shouldn't be coming from the person asking for help.
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