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[Q] ROOT?

I love my Evo. Main reason? Personalization, flashing custom roms, flashing fonts, etc. My knowledge of development ain't that great though and I'm wondering from those "in the know": Do you think we'll access root and be able to flash custom roms?
For me, this is the best tablet b/c it runs android. I don't mind the price, I just want to be able to do what I want to the device Opinions?

I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.

Sirchuk said:
I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?

blozout said:
Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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Ditto

blozout said:
Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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That's about all it is. They shut down any access to the loader which means you can get around to install anything. Most of motos new phones are this way. Its a kick in the nards but it protects their hardware from stuff like overclocking and burning out stuff. And of course the occasional brick.
I hate it but I see the point. And I can see the xoom being locked....little expensive for them to have to keep taking back because a new rooter f'ed theirs up.

Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.

setite said:
Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.
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I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.

feron said:
I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.
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I know the hardware won't be outdated, I'm talking about all the obsolete android phones because their OEMs abandoned them and they never got FroYo. I think if it ends up being locked down I might have to utilize Best Buy's new return policy on the 28th day.

The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/

I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.

robbiev80 said:
The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/
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Until I see the bootloader rooted, I say meh.
jkurl said:
I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.
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Shame on you for talking to BB employees about anything technical. No hate, but most of them are morons.

It just makes me laugh when I talk to people like that. Being an electronics technician I do it sometimes just to see what chunks of stupid come out of their mouths.

Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.

tsekh501 said:
Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.
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This is what I'm banking on. But if it turns out being locked down. I will be sending an e-mail to Motorola and Google with a picture of my return receipt and an explanation.

I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.

jkurl said:
I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.
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Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?

jacob.stewart said:
Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?
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All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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p-slim said:
All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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Thats all i have also. The confusion among the techs had me skeptical. Hopefully my skepticism doesnt hold to be true.
Also praying for no locked bootloader. Hoping to be rooted within the first few days

All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.

DaBoSSmon said:
All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.
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Yep, ran into the same problem. The guy had no clue, the female was all over it. She knew exactly what I was asking for, went right to the pre-order sheet and got it done lickity split and she was hot to.

Stood next to a dude who also thought of getting a Xoom...

...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.

I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
Oh, wait.

Nor external ports...
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You made the right choice!
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Thanks for sharing

arrtoodeetoo said:
I guess you don't mind the lack of an SD card slot...
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There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.

Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Lol not even 1% chance?

Earthbrain said:
...and after discussing about the advantages and disadvantages of the Xoom, we finally left the store with the same thought of waiting for the Samsung 10.1 tablet.
What's the point of this thread????....
Patience is virtue.
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Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
Trav29 said:
Lol not even 1% chance?
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Ha, was laughing at that too.

Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .

Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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It won't have an SD slot or a normal micro USB port, have fun!

setite said:
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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probably hard to locate find the Galaxy Tab forum??

theahlenius said:
Assuming there is sufficient advantage to waiting.
Waiting by itself doesn't qualify having patience. Sometimes it means you don't understand the choice. The only real "disadvantage" in buying the Xoom now is the price. What about the Samsung tablet appeals to you more? Or was this purely about the Xoom?
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I did not mention in my first post that I also bought the Xoom at Motorola for 25% off and I already have the UPS tracking number and it will be delivered this coming Monday. My bank statement has shown that the charge is complete.
So the price is not really the issue here.
I will not open my Xoom on Monday when I received it but will wait for March 22 to decide.
Biggest advantages of the Samsung tablet are the following:
1. Lighter weight
2. Most likely a better screen (brighter/better contrast). You look at the screen 100% of the time when you use a tablet (unless you just listen to music) so this is very important.
Big disadvantage
1. May not be rootable

Like I mentioned, you don't seem to understand the choice if those are your only disadvantages. I get that you're waiting, I just find your attitude funny.

Earthbrain said:
There is a .999999% that it may have the SD card slot. I am willing to wait until March 22 to find out.
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Your a better man than me. Me, personally I will never buy another samsung product. What shortcomings does the Xoom have that the 10.1 won't have? From what I have read the 10.1 is inferior spec wise to the Xoom althoigh they are very close.

setite said:
Am I missing something. What on earth makes the tablet by Samsung any better than one by motorola unless you are a homunculus incapable of holding a 1.6lb device but can hold a 1.3?
In all seriousness though, besides aestethics and brand preference I don't see the draw. I am seriously looking googling to try and find the big deal. Moto is a proven OEM in the Android world, and the XOOM is wide open and soon to be 4G capable. I see that the 10.1 is supposed to be HSPA 21+mbps so I am assuming T-Mo's fake 4G?
It seems it has a better rear camera, higher resolution video, optional capacities, and a proximity sensor(did they forget this isn't a phone) in the THINGS THE XOOM DON'T category.
It has a single instead of dual led flash, no new data tech, no HDMI, no barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for) no external memory(which I will be using to put music on my tablet when I get a deal on a 32gb microsd, or so I tell myself), no ambient light sensor(I don't like autobrightness but I see the utility) in the THINGS THE XOOM DOES category.
Options are good but I don't get the point of this pointless thread .
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Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.

Samsung updated their phones in Europe
I am also waiting that March 22, but mainly for the 8.9" version.
Hope it will have better screen and more.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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[email protected] thread... First there were Apple fanboys, then phandroids now people are arguing and defending different android tablets... Motoroloids? Phansungs? When will it end?!! Who cares? And let's be honest, since when did arguing on the internet ever change someones stance on an issue? Get over it.

setite said:
barometer(hmmm someone tell me wtf a barometer is for)
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If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.

keitht said:
If you load Weatherbug you will see the barometer actually being used. Not very interesting right now unless you are a weather addict like me.
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What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
angermeans said:
Thats exactly what I was thinking plus you left one out. Samsung will never update it they will just have another come out in four months and make you pay for that. I will never buy samsung ever. Horrible company that forces a ****ty skin on its users and takes away uogrades making promises and never coming through, they care for nothing more than your money and i will leave you.
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Thanks for that. I went into that post thinking about that point but I got sidetracked. It is fair to point out that Samsung has let all the initial Galaxy Tab owners twist in the wind with no word of whether they will ever see an update.

setite said:
What part. I couldn't figure out where it is.
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When you load Weatherbug you will see "My Device Stats" which shows the Barometer reading from your Xoom.
Screen attached.

Exchange Your AT&T Pre-Ordered Phone For In-Store

I think the pre-ordered ones were a beta firmware or were pre-production, because I just exchanged mines today at a corporate AT&T store and it just seems better and more fluid.
On the pre-ordered, when I check to see if there were a software update, I would get an error, but the in-store version will just say that I'm up to date. I can now view my playlist on the stock music player, which the in-store version would not. Also, when I get a notification, I get a bubble on the lock screen that tells me that, something the pre-order didn't do. The in-store version just feels smoother overall, thus I think Samsung must've screwed something up with the mad rush to get the phones out to everyone.

Interesting. I just read an article about the international S3 getting an update that made the UI smoother and had different radios. One of my friends got the Sprint S3 and it didn't have the launcher redraw issue I have.
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perhaps you just had a bad phone; i dont have any of those issues on mine.

Was there any hassle in exchanging phones? My Wi-Fi seems to work about 70% of the time.
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They definitely changed the build quality....I preordered mine on the 13th and th back cover doesn't close completely flush in a corner....then I ordered one for the wife on the 28th and that one snaps in just fine! It's not the cover as I tried hers on mine (same gap)...

My pre-order seems ok, no errors at all. I see a small gap different from the other side though lol :-/ wouldn't have noticed if u didn't say either lol
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There is nothing different about the pre-order phones, you just happened to get a dud, apparently. It happens.
My phone does all of the things your 'in-store' one does, and has from day 1.

RampageRR said:
There is nothing different about the pre-order phones, you just happened to get a dud, apparently. It happens.
My phone does all of the things your 'in-store' one does, and has from day 1.
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I am of this same thought. There are going to be defective units out there. That's what happens in manufacturing (both hardware and software). Sometimes software doesn't "stick", sometimes molds get out of line. It happens.
Mine has issues with wifi, issues with bluetooth, random apps force closing regularly, voice control/s voice not working (opens then just closes) and wont check for updates (I get that server communication error thing).
My new one is on the way to replace the one I pre-ordered last month (middle of the month some time).

RampageRR said:
There is nothing different about the pre-order phones, you just happened to get a dud, apparently. It happens.
My phone does all of the things your 'in-store' one does, and has from day 1.
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Same here, my pre order has been fantastic.
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As long as hardware is good im okay with it. Thanks to xda it WILL NOT stay stock anyways.
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My t mobile is perfectly fine too..no issues what so ever..loving it
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My pre-order is a mess.... between the loose volume rocker that rattles like the cans behind a limo leaving a wedding and the robotic voices that the front speaker produces on a call, I can't wait to bring mine back for an exchange! I love this phone though, and considering I use Bluetooth for any call I ever make (was waiting on my newest one to arrive or else I would have never known about the horrible speaker), I'm not going to ***** about it anywhere else online for Apple fanboys to fuel their fire....
Best Buy pre-order, AT&T customer, Silver Rewards member, picked it up on 6/28/12, going to return it 59 days from the date of purchase so I can beat this thing up without a case or screen protector until then and see how it holds up!

nismax said:
As long as hardware is good im okay with it. Thanks to xda it WILL NOT stay stock anyways.
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I'd be careful with this line of thought. If a unit has a difficult time caring out "stock" tasks, then isn't it possible an "aftermarket" program would cause even more issues?

the1stSecond said:
I'd be careful with this line of thought. If a unit has a difficult time caring out "stock" tasks, then isn't it possible an "aftermarket" program would cause even more issues?
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We are not on same page bro. Im talking about roms kernels modems. Not apps.
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nismax said:
We are not on same page bro. Im talking about roms kernels modems. Not apps.
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I know exactly what you mean. I wasn't talking about apps.
Are the ROMs, Kernels and modems ALL built totally from scratch? Or, are they pulled from predefined configuration and then tweaked and massaged to the liking of the user? (an Aftermarket build that starts with the stock build and tweaked from there).
So, if the stock build has issues running on a particular unit (defective) what reasoning says it would run better when the ROM/Kernel/Modem is modified to suite the users' tastes? It's really a toss up isn't it? Are we breaking these phones down and physically testing each circuit and then saying "OK all hardware is fine, it must be this one line of code that is the issue."?
My point is, would you build a house on a cracked foundation (defective from factory)?
But, if the foundation is torn down completely and rebuilt from the ground up, then you can have a very stable house. Which I believe is more where you are coming from, and correct me if I am wrong. I am after all a noob. That's not a smart a** comment, I am new to Linux/Android.

NIKKG said:
I think the pre-ordered ones were a beta firmware or were pre-production, because I just exchanged mines today at a corporate AT&T store and it just seems better and more fluid.
On the pre-ordered, when I check to see if there were a software update, I would get an error, but the in-store version will just say that I'm up to date. I can now view my playlist on the stock music player, which the in-store version would not. Also, when I get a notification, I get a bubble on the lock screen that tells me that, something the pre-order didn't do. The in-store version just feels smoother overall, thus I think Samsung must've screwed something up with the mad rush to get the phones out to everyone.
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So what does a program like Antutu Benchmark's information page (or some other system info program) say for details of the new phone? Let us know when you check and what you used to check it. I have probably one of the earliest shipping AT&T phones (received fedex on 6/22) so I'd like to compare component version numbers and such. I get the error on the update check and I don't recall getting a "bubble" on the lock screen. Could you post a screenshot of what you mean by that?
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Story of my Atrix

Well, this is the story of the rise and death of my Atrix.
Bought this wonderful phone on the 6th of August 2011, after reading reviews of it online, for a cheap price of $146 with dock and a 2 year contract.
Lots of exciting moment, especially when the 2.3 update came, and again with the CM9.
However, I had LOTS of issues with the touch screen, and had to send it in for repair 5 times.
Well, all was fine till about 15 days ago, when I dropped my phone, and the digitizer shattered. Well, its fine, I told myself, I'll just buy one from ebay, well, it is easy to install after all.
Yeah, well the item arrived AFTER my warranty was over, but i was like "meh, I won't need it anyway"
Replacing the digitizer was very easy, however, after I replaced it, I realised part of the digitizer was not working =(
Yeah, ****. Well what choice do I have? I sent it to Motorola for repair.
Well, I went there and they were friendly and nice, as usual, but when they scanned my serial number, all hell broke lose.
"Uh, well you phone is out of warranty, including the 3 months grace period"
"Um, yes, well I know that"
"There will be an evaluation charge of $25"
"About how much will it cost?"
"Well, the parts about $150"
"So a total of $175?"
"Uh, yes, would you like to reconsider"
(I would love to, but I can't. My carrier is screwing with me, and I cannot cancel this plan. I am paying $30 for 12GB, and if I renew the plan, it will drop to 2GB. I have no choice but to keep my atrix)
"Um, not really. Just send it in"
Well, two days pass and I was in school when I received a call. (Yeah, I'm a student, still in secondary school actually)
Obviously I can't pick up, so I just let it ring...
Well, I tried to call back, but no one answers. (Dear Motorola, answer your phone PLEASE)
This goes on for a few days, but one day, I was lucky enough to pick up.
A little tired here, its 12.54AM and I have school tomorrow, so I'll cut it short.
In short, after consulting with their managers, Motorola decided they will not fix my atrix. Instead, they will replace it with a BRAND NEW atrix 2
Obviously, I'm chuffed to bits. Is the atrix 2 better? Not really. However, I do really appreciate the service shown here. Is it google at work here?
I have no idea. However, Motorola has just won a loyal customer.
The whole point of this post is simple.
1. Motorola, please don't allow flaws like the Atrix digitizer and wifi+bluetooth to get pass QC
2. Motorola, please pick up your phones. You are a phone company. Doesn't reflect well if your phones are useless
3. Motorola, thanks for being such a good company. You are really setting a good example here. I cannot describe how much I really appreciate your efforts here.
4. Goodbye Atrix forum. You all have been really nice, and I am sure this phone will continue to exceed your expectations, and I am sad I won't be here to witness this.

Lucky American.
Why no one is ready to pick up my Atrix and swap it with anything non-nVidia crap based?

They're seriously allowed to do that? Replace your phone with a completely different one that's largely accepted as being worse?

sms2000 said:
Lucky American.
Why no one is ready to pick up my Atrix and swap it with anything non-nVidia crap based?
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1. I'm not american.
2. What's wrong with nVidia?
nerfman100 said:
They're seriously allowed to do that? Replace your phone with a completely different one that's largely accepted as being worse?
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1. The warranty is over. They are not bound to do anything.
2. I agreed. I would not want a phone that has no warranty that has failed every 2 months anyway.

matthew5025 said:
2. What's wrong with nVidia?
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nVidia makes all of their SoCs closed-source. It shouldn't matter if you run stock, but it makes it makes it much harder for devs to work their magic.

nerfman100 said:
nVidia makes all of their SoCs closed-source. It shouldn't matter if you run stock, but it makes it makes it much harder for devs to work their magic.
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Well, the bootloader for the atrix is unlocked. That is it's saving grace I guess.

no hope for ics
planning to buy s3
i observe even our moderator is now using s3
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maggedo said:
no hope for ics
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Of course not, especially when moto already said they will release ICS =.="

Safe way of getting a 6P outside of the US ?

Hey,
Okay, so I've been using the Galaxy S2 for god knows how long and I really need to move on.. and also the fact that its battery is dying for the third time... that helped me to take the decision to go with the 6P.
There's just a major problem, I'm neither from US nor Europe... and I don't wanna pay 200$ or 300$ extra just to get it.. because the only reason i'm buying it is it has a great value in its current price..
I have seen a few nice forwarding sites, like fishisfast and usgobuy and they do look promising... I can buy from the Google Store and ship to my country and that would only cost me about 50 bucks more.. which is great...
My only concern is defective units... I've seen so many complaints on the forums here about defective units starting from the slight pink screen to speakers and the list goes on... and I'm afraid that If I receive a defective unit i won't be able to get a replacement...
is there's any safe way of getting the 6P without compromising warranty or paying like 200 extra bucks

I'm not sure about your situation but wanted to tell you if you reply to your own post with the word bump it will get moved to the top and people will see it. You don't have to keep starting threads. Just a friendly FYI.

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I'm not sure about your situation but wanted to tell you if you reply to your own post with the word bump it will get moved to the top and people will see it. You don't have to keep starting threads. Just a friendly FYI.
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Keep Starting threads !?
I guess you might be confusing me with someone else !?
this my first and only thread here on XDA

biascoblix said:
Keep Starting threads !?
I guess you might be confusing me with someone else !?
this my first and only thread here on XDA
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Sry. Yeah I did lol. My app was doubling some of the threads. My bad.

Gizmoe said:
Sry. Yeah I did lol. My app was doubling some of the threads. My bad.
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no problem, so any recommendation or ideas how to get that thing ?
I've never thought i'd struggle that much to get a phone before...

Where are you from in the first place?

bradputt said:
Where are you from in the first place?
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a country far far away, Egypt...

Got mine out of HK, no issues...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

jabbermacy said:
Got mine out of HK, no issues...
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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HK ?

I got mine via a company that ships from the USA and I'm all the way in Zambia, why now try expansys.com they shipped to Zambia before so i don't see why they wouldn't to Eygpt

neoian1277 said:
I got mine via a company that ships from the USA and I'm all the way in Zambia, why now try expansys.com they shipped to Zambia before so i don't see why they wouldn't to Eygpt
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Yea, I was totally gonna do that... I'm just afraid to get a defective unit somehow...
If that happens, I don't think you can return it, right ?

Okay, I'm going with a forwarding service.. which one is better to order from, Huawei or the Google Store ?

biascoblix said:
Okay, I'm going with a forwarding service.. which one is better to order from, Huawei or the Google Store ?
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From a returns standpoint I'd easily prefer the Google Store. However, I'm not sure how that applies (or doesn't) to your current situation & questions.

ohlin5 said:
From a returns standpoint I'd easily prefer the Google Store. However, I'm not sure how that applies (or doesn't) to your current situation & questions.
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Ugh, I'm sick of this, I've always wanted to buy a Nexus.. Starting from the Nexus 4, to the 5 and then 6P... and I never did.. Why google makes them that damn hard to get anywhere else on the world !!
I think I'm gonna wait till Amazon start selling them officially.. That's probably gonna be the best in returns standpoint..
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Okay, No Nexus for me then... I am buying the HTC M8.. It does have a pretty active dev community.... Definitely not as good as the 6P.. But it's currently for half its price...