Has anyone found an actual solution to completely get rid of the wake delay issue? What I mean by wake delay is when you try to wake your phone from sleep and the key pad lights come on but the screen stays black for a few seconds sometimes longer.
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What type and class card are you using? Seems to be related to card. I have 3 cards. 16gb class 2 Sandisk = no wake delay on any build. 8gb Lexar class 6 and other 4gb class 6 = 3-5 second wake delay on all builds except darkstone's Super_Ram build.
I'm using the stock 16gb class 2 SD card that came with phone. I've alreAdy formatted the card and I'm using ozdroid Windows Rom but I still get the wake delays...So with your 16gb class 2 card you get
Zero delays ? Maybe I should buy a different card.
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Try reformatting with 32kb clusters.
This is a known software issue and is present in every single Android build on here. The devs all know about it and it's something that needs to be fixed.
Actually, I take that back. I'm using Ginger HD2 at the minute and it's a LOT better.
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Well its random. It will work fine for a while then I start having long delays. It's good to know that its a known issue and the devs are working on it because its the only real issue that's keeping android from being stable. It sucks when you want to show someone something on your phone and it won't even wake up.
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Seriously, if you can be bothered to set up a new build, try Ginger HD2. I can go into standby with the power button and then wake it again seconds later, and it works 99% of the time.
johncmolyneux said:
Seriously, if you can be bothered to set up a new build, try Ginger HD2. I can go into standby with the power button and then wake it again seconds later, and it works 99% of the time.
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Probably is because GB is so much more resource efficient, so the sleep/wake process is faster. I cant wait til theres more complete/stable GB builds released after awhile. But for now, UltimateDroid does the trick for me as a daily driver.
One thing to prevent black screen on wake is to hold the power button instead of just pressing it. For some reason, this cuts way down on the black wakeups. Between that and using the newest kernel by MDJ, I almost never have black wakeups anymore.
Oh, and it seems to me that the lower class sd cards actually help run Android better. Don't ask me why, but class 2's seem to yield better battery life and even perform better, or at least as good as a 4 or 6
huggs said:
Probably is because GB is so much more resource efficient, so the sleep/wake process is faster. I cant wait til theres more complete/stable GB builds released after awhile. But for now, UltimateDroid does the trick for me as a daily driver.
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Ginger HD2 isn't a Gingerbread build. It's a 2.2.1 build with a Gingerbread look and feel to it (and the lovely new keyboard too!)
Did you try what I suggested? Also, do a chkdsk for errors on your card. I'm using stock 16gb Sandisk card and have no wake delay with any build and latest hastarin kernel. My phone wakes immediately even multiple back to back locking/unlocking.
reocej said:
Did you try what I suggested? Also, do a chkdsk for errors on your card. I'm using stock 16gb Sandisk card and have no wake delay with any build and latest hastarin kernel. My phone wakes immediately even multiple back to back locking/unlocking.
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I have reformated to 32 kb a few times and it has improved some aspects of Android but I still experience wake delays but not all the times only when I really need it. ;-)
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Perez827 said:
I have reformated to 32 kb a few times and it has improved some aspects of Android but I still experience wake delays but not all the times only when I really need it. ;-)
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Hmm... not sure why you're experiencing this issue, but I have one more suggestion for you. D/L Advanced Configuration Tool for WinMo. Once installed, open it up and go down to section for Power Management and enable all of the power management options, save and reboot.
reocej said:
Hmm... not sure why you're experiencing this issue, but I have one more suggestion for you. D/L Advanced Configuration Tool for WinMo. Once installed, open it up and go down to section for Power Management and enable all of the power management options, save and reboot.
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I will try this in the next few days. I'm wondering if the wake delays are directly related to the inconsistent ear censors that control the wake and sleep of the phone when in a phone call. Sometimes I will take my ears off the phone to look at the screen and the screen won't light up for a good while. Happens when I end calls too sometimes, screen won't light up. I feel these 2 issues are closely related.
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Hi
maybe you should try the last hastarin kernel v8.6, it seems it has got ride of those delays.
May we know what are you using now ?
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Hi
maybe you should try the last hastarin kernel v8.6, it seems it has got ride of those delays.
May we know what are you using now ?
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I'm using hastarins 8.6 and the delay is still there. It is a tad better but not gone. I've tried various builds and they all have this very minor delay. It is not that long but can be at times. Sometimes I think people have different interpretations of instant. The best comparison is to try a Desire or Desire HD. Press the power button on those phones and it comes on INSTANT.
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Hi
maybe you should try the last hastarin kernel v8.6, it seems it has got ride of those delays.
May we know what are you using now ?
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I'm using v8.5.3. I've noticed it mostly delays when I quickly sleep wake , sleep wake or like I mentioned before while on a phone call, trying to look at the screen. I feel that the solution to this issue can be found by adjusting the sensors, but Im no expert. Does any one use set CPU? I heard that can help.
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D/L Advanced Configuration Tool for WinMo. Once installed, open it up and go down to section for Power Management and enable all of the power management options, save and reboot.
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this isnt going to do a single thing in android... not even in the slightest.
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Hi all,
anyone knows if there's a ROM for HTC TOUCH HD that contains Android OS?
Thank you previously!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468360
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
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€: It doesn't hurt to read or use the search.
Rumbi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468360
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux
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€: It doesn't hurt to read or use the search.
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I've already found those links! I dunno what to do! I'm w8ing for safest ways to boot Android on Blackstone...
You can't do anything yet, Android isn't running properly on our devices yet.
no rom for htc touch hd. I advise you not to try
NOOB!!!
ok, i tried installing the adroid versions on the HTC Touch HD, and it didnt work. Now my touch starts, and then switches off.
i suppose i now have to install something from scratch via a pc.
any ideas ?
you could try to do a soft-reset
or try the zip version but both version is the same.
Finally, FRX07.1 on my HTC Touch HD
Finally, got the FRX07.1 working on my HTC Touch HD.
I had tried installing from a folder on the microsd (shared with other WM apps) but that did not go well and the installation stalled on several occasions.
My first attempt using a dedicated microSD (class 2) AND keeping the files on the root worked, so this approach is highly recommended.
Update on Day 1 of installation
Android was not stable. Hanged a number of times. It might be due to the known problems of too-frequent read/writes to the microSD (mine is an 8GB). Will do a re-install using a 1 or 2GB microSD.
Update on Day 2 (2200hr GMT 23 Dec)
I decided to resize my 8GB to 2GB with Minitool. Looks more stable now than before resize.
Battery life seems to be fairly normal.
Time drift is about 10 mins per 12 hours.
Update on Day 2 (1035hr GMT 26 Dec)
FR07.1 seems to be stable the last couple of days and I am quite happy with it.
Resized my microSD back to 8GB with Minitool. Took 3 reboot attempts (first 2 stopped at animation screen).
Installed Launcher Pro (free) as default launcher as I also use this on my Android ICS Tablet.
Update on Day 4 (0811hr GMT 28 Dec)
Stable so far.
Battery life is about 12-14 hours with light use (few phone call/sms) rest of time on standby
Migrated over from my Class2 8GB microsd to a Class4 32GB microsd
Class4 microsd seems to be more stable.
So far 100% successful reboots out of at least 5 times. Did the reboots because of trying to get rid of the strange keyboard on top of screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19268355#post19268355
The Fagyi's NAND is a good alternative. Its under development yet, but it looks so pretty, estable, and high speed. The battery life is one of its issues. In my Blackstone 10 hours with the las version.
Bye
the nand rom is what you mean
gilen tell said:
The Fagyi's NAND is a good alternative. Its under development yet, but it looks so pretty, estable, and high speed. The battery life is one of its issues. In my Blackstone 10 hours with the las version.
Bye
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unfortunately at present it's still not an absolute solution, still it looks perspective.:laugh:
tomywood said:
unfortunately at present it's still not an absolute solution, still it looks perspective.:laugh:
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Why are you always so negative? Just get happy with what you get on a sh**ty hardware...
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negative?
mfsr98 said:
Why are you always so negative? Just get happy with what you get on a sh**ty hardware...
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Dude, pls
how can you see I am negative about the nand, on the contrary I appreciate their efforts and think it's promising.
tomywood said:
Dude, pls
how can you see I am negative about the nand, on the contrary I appreciate their efforts and think it's promising.
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You are always complaining about bugs on the ROM although it has almost none...
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Finally, NAND ROM for my Touch HD
chan.sk said:
Finally, got the FRX07.1 working on my HTC Touch HD. . . . . .Update on Day 4 (0811hr GMT 28 Dec)
Stable so far.
Battery life is about 12-14 hours with light use (few phone call/sms) rest of time on standby
Migrated over from my Class2 8GB microsd to a Class4 32GB microsd
Class4 microsd seems to be more stable.
So far 100% successful reboots out of at least 5 times. Did the reboots because of trying to get rid of the strange keyboard on top of screen:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19268355#post19268355
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Then a few days ago, I installed the ROM NAND by fagyi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914723
It is more stable and faster than FRX07.1, did not notice clock drift and the battery life seems much longer. Managed >24 hrs without seeing the charger. Here's fagyi's list of what's working and what's not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Blackstone_NAND
Happy with that.
chan.sk said:
Then a few days ago, I installed the ROM NAND by fagyi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914723
It is more stable and faster than FRX07.1, did not notice clock drift and the battery life seems much longer. Managed >24 hrs without seeing the charger. Here's fagyi's list of what's working and what's not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Blackstone_NAND
Happy with that.
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Who the heck did that wiki?
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Blackstone NAND Wiki
Got it from this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37174434
fagyi mentioned he would be updating the wiki . . .
Hello everybody,
I didn't think I'd be writing this thread. I mean, owning a SGS is a dream come true for me. But I came to know that the reality is not as good as my dream.
First, let me start with the PLUS/Advantages
--> Obviously, the best screen I've ever seen till date.
--> Feels very thing and light, though a bit large, definitely its pocketable and handy (IMHO).
--> Android 2.1 interface rocks! Superb Visuals unlike iOS and very user friendly.
--> Android Market
--> Superb Default Browser
-->Very Very Responsive, just like the iphone.
--> Great hardware - Still couldn't belie it is able to play 720p videos with more than 6mbps bitrate.
--> Excellent Video camera - 720p video recording is so cool!
--> Excellent NIGHT mode!
--> Dedicated SGS section at XDA
Now, the MINUSes/ Disadvantages.
--> Initially I thought, only the lack of flash and the iphone like model are the only bad things about this phone.
--> LAG, LAG, LAG, LAG! As the usage days increases, the lag increases gradually. And I'm unable to get rid of the lag.
And what's most annoying is that, even the telephony and messaging application is lagging (android could've atleast reserved some permanent resources for both of these apps, as they are the ACTUAL PHONE apps.)
--> Battery - Still I'm not sure whether it is a good battery or not. But I'm definitely disappointed. All of my friends used to have a probem with their smartphone, if they use the features of their phone, the battery won't even last a day. But before buying SGS, I read in various reviews about its great battery life. So I thought, I can use all the features of this phone and it'll last atleast a day or more. But if I use the features of this phone, then battery won't even last for a day. But if I use it like a normal phone, the battery is good (But who wants that? I need to use those features, that's why I've put so much money into this box )
--> Samsung. I guess I'll be stuck with what I have. No official updates, no fixes, no nothing.
P.S: If any one of you can help me out with my problems with LAG and share some tips on battery improvement, IT'D BE GR8!! (Of course, I did see the threads regarding tips, but still...)
lag fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
Battery
Fully charge battery, then use it until it is completely discharged, recharge fully, that is one cycle.
After you have done five complete cycles your battery should be conditioned and give you longer between charges.
My phone lasted about 8 hours when I first got it, after three cycles it's now lasting 24 hours between charges.
Hope that helps.
Geryatrix said:
Battery
Fully charge battery, then use it until it is completely discharged, recharge fully, that is one cycle.
After you have done five complete cycles your battery should be conditioned and give you longer between charges.
My phone lasted about 8 hours when I first got it, after three cycles it's now lasting 24 hours between charges.
Hope that helps.
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Really? i can't believe this.
I have used my phone for 2 weeks. if I follow this procedure now, will it still work?
And thanks a lot, Geryatrix, for your your reply
@ AllGamer - Thanks for the link mate. I've seen that earlier, but I'm too noobish to try that out. I'm waiting for an OFFICIAL samsung firmware update. So that, if anything happens while updating that firmware, I could still claim my warranty
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but I'm too noobish to try that out.
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Just update your firmware to JM2 and all your lag problems will be gone. Seriously, i had 4 different firmwares and can honestly say, that JM2 is lag free. It also comes with a samsung provided task manager(long press home now includes a button to sammy task manager).
Updating firmware is so easy, and you can't brick your phone(honestly).
There's no harm in flashing, since there are now stock firmwares available, so you can go back if you want to return the phone in future. Why wait for the official update?
@buddy01 - thats very convincing. I'd like to do that. But this phone is my 3 month salary - I wouldn't dare to spoil it in anyway. Of course, it makes sense, when you say 'NO BRICK + REVERSIBLE FIRMWARE'... But still . . . .
BTW, is the thread mentioned by AllGamer ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251) is JM2 firmware??
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BTW, is the thread mentioned by AllGamer ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251) is JM2 firmware??
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No, that's the mimocan lag fix, which in my honest opinion is not needed anymore since JM2.
If i were you, i would just go with the JM2 and see if that's fast enough for you (is for me) and if not then try the lag fix.
All i can say is that im 99,9% sure you won't brick your phone if you flash your firmware like everyone else.
I am running JM2 with the lag fix. And my phone is still laggy as hell.
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Filgaliel said:
I am running JM2 with the lag fix. And my phone is still laggy as hell.
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Must be some crappy configuration, app, something messing it up. Mine is Flash Gordon fast. I don't know if the fact that i use launcherPro instead of Touch(lag)Wiz, make any difference. It might also be that something is changed in latest (JM1,JM2) firmwares in such a way that mimocan fix is actually a burden now. Who knows, but im lag free, honestly.
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Must be some crappy configuration, app, something messing it up. Mine is Flash Gordon fast. I don't know if the fact that i use launcherPro instead of Touch(lag)Wiz, make any difference. It might also be that something is changed in latest (JM1,JM2) firmwares in such a way that mimocan fix is actually a burden now. Who knows, but im lag free, honestly.
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Strange. I too use Launcher Pro. What I experience is this.. I press to open an app.. The app starts to open but seems to freeze midway for a second or two, sometimes longer. Even when I try to enter the settings menu I get this lag.
Another strange thing is that sometimes when in an app the screen returns to home screen as if the back button has been pressed. I reenter the app but instantly I am returned to home screen. I try another app.. Same thing. Only when I turn the screen off and on again will I be able to open an app..
Very weird..
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Strange. I too use Launcher Pro. What I experience is this.. I press to open an app.. The app starts to open but seems to freeze midway for a second or two, sometimes longer. Even when I try to enter the settings menu I get this lag.
Another strange thing is that sometimes when in an app the screen returns to home screen as if the back button has been pressed. I reenter the app but instantly I am returned to home screen. I try another app.. Same thing. Only when I turn the screen off and on again will I be able to open an app..
Very weird..
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Something is definetly wrong with your setup. i would do a factory reset and/or do the flashing again with re-partition and forget the lag fix.
Only app that takes 2 to 4 seconds to open in some occasions is gallery, and that is if i open it the first time (fresh boot or killed with task manager). everything else i commonly use, such as dialer one, handsentSMS, app draw, camera, gmail, market, youtube, browser, maps, contacts ... all open instantly.
The other problem your experiencing, i have never heard of. Must be some app acting wrong or things got messed up because of the mimocan fix. Honestly i would do a factory reset and then re-flash JM2 and forget the mimocan fix.
Yeah perhaps you´re right. I think I will.. Thanks.
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Yeah perhaps you´re right. I think I will.. Thanks.
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Good luck!
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I repeated the procedure this time with mimocan fix on EXT4. I now rate 1592 in quadrant and the phone is smooth as hell..
I haven't tried mimocan fix yet sounded very good, but rather complicated and requires Odin's flashing the phone.
My current galaxy is rooted and I install AutoKiller to better manage the memories. So far so good, lag are kept at the minimal. This procedure to me is far simpler and give acceptable performance.
Mimocan is the most complicated because in addition to odin flashing the kernel (not the entire firmware), you must also partition an external sd card and make some changes to the filesystem with an terminal program.
Mimocan gives you the best quadrant score atm, but after seeing a video of it in work, i can without a doubt say that my phone is just as fast with the newest jm2 firmware only.
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Ok then, I guess I have to go with jm2. Can you please tell me where can I get that firmware and a tutorial for that.
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No, that's the mimocan lag fix, which in my honest opinion is not needed anymore since JM2.
If i were you, i would just go with the JM2 and see if that's fast enough for you (is for me) and if not then try the lag fix.
All i can say is that im 99,9% sure you won't brick your phone if you flash your firmware like everyone else.
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I won't be flashing jm 2 as of now as froyo is out and will be given officially in few months. till then I'll manage with this lag.
hi all.
I have this phone 3rd day now and here are issues I discovered while using it.
It is a great phone,but needs serious update from guys in HTC.
-Navigation feature is utterly useless.it is so damn slow.in compass mode it is showing wrong direction.also I miss footprints implementation with Google maps.I know,you can open certain footprint in GM but I meant full support.this is only my suggestion but all in all navigation app is horrible and I think once used,it slows the DHD down.
-Sometimes it lags like hell.at least for me.I have installed only apps I've used before on old Desire and there I had no problems with slowdowns or lag.I am using app from market called "SystemPanel".basically it shows all your phone activities an running processes.it can also monitor phone performance over time.this app is showing that every time I wake up DHD CPU usage rises to 100% and stays there until I switch screen back off.then it drops to almost nothing.unfortunately it doesn't show which processes are using this much resources.this app always pointed me to the right direction when I was tracking down defective apps.i have already emailed the developer about this.it could be compatibility issue with this app and new DHD.it also shows that right after reboot almost 75% of RAM is in use.really?this phone has a huge RAM and if this is correct reading,than HTC did a lot of bad coding while making this new Soft.after some time of use my DHD becomes sluggish and lags a lot.I got rid of Samsung Galaxy S because of it's lag issue.I never had any similar problems on old Desire and it has much smaller RAM and was running on 2.1!
-Sync function is a bitt dogy as well.it takes ages to sync all the accounts and it took few attempts to sync with my Google account.I've seen someone posting about this,so I know I am not the only one with this problem.this brings me to all new
-htcsense.com.nothing seems to work right.at least for me.and this was one of the most highlighted features when this phone was announced.
-Camera software is not what I expected.I doubt it is hardware problem.it is just poorly programmed.in low-light conditions quality simply sucks.and I just don't understand why camcorder cannot work on higher frame rate.
-flash support is not that good too.If you select option in browser to "always use" after a while of browsing od flash sites phone gets so slow reboot is needed.after such a long time Adobe still cannot make proper mobile version.that is a fail by me especially when these days mobile devices are in almost everyone pocket and are widely used for web browsing.
That's about it.sorry that you had to read such long post,but that's my DHD experience so far.
My point is that guys un HTC software kitchen should sit down and fix this IMO rushed release and give as an proper update.until then this is great hardware being hold hostage by poor software.it is unacceptable for phone with such specs to be performing like this.
Come on HTC.we know you can do better.
Please share your experience too...
I agree. I've gotvl the very same issue. I would really like to use stock android 2.2 like my old n1 waiting for a very necessary update
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Endr1 said:
I agree. I've gotvl the very same issue. I would really like to use stock android 2.2 like my old n1 waiting for a very necessary update
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stock ROM is one solution.but i enjoyed HTC Sence on Desire.i hope they wil fix this one.
thx for confirming.at least i know i am not the only one with this problems.
I swapped out htc sense for launcherpro and also stopped all the syncing that htc sense requires like facebook for sense, twitter for sense, htc sense, stocks, news and weather.
I then set profiles within setcpu to allow for performance when the screen is on while scaling back the processor whilst the screen is off.
Installed spare parts and sped up some of the animations and bam! my desire hd is as fast as my nexus one was with CM6 with over-clocked kernel and all the lag has disappeared. I also have over 30 apps I have installed myself.
The problem with flash I'm sure will be fixed sometime, everyone is experiencing this slow down.
teihoata said:
I swapped out htc sense for launcherpro and also stopped all the syncing that htc sense requires like facebook for sense, twitter for sense, htc sense, stocks, news and weather.
I then set profiles within setcpu to allow for performance when the screen is on while scaling back the processor whilst the screen is off.
Installed spare parts and sped up some of the animations and bam! my desire hd is as fast as my nexus one was with CM6 with over-clocked kernel and all the lag has disappeared. I also have over 30 apps I have installed myself.
The problem with flash I'm sure will be fixed sometime, everyone is experiencing this slow down.
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i have purchased LauncherPro before.did not want to go down that road,but i think i will swap Sense for this launcher for a while to see how it performs.
Endr1 said:
I agree. I've gotvl the very same issue. I would really like to use stock android 2.2 like my old n1 waiting for a very necessary update
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Does the lagging also occur when your're running stock? Do you use a task killer?
My phone has no programs with lag!
Oops sorry my post was a question to the OP
Black1982 said:
Does the lagging also occur when your're running stock? Do you use a task killer?
My phone has no programs with lag!
Oops sorry my post was a question to the OP
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i don,t know what you mean by "running stock".
and no.i don't use any task killer.don't think it is needed in Froyo.
Ive found a lot of the slow down is from programs starting up and starting in the ram most I found from htc :/ I've used root and a auto memory manger (one that uses the system, not an app killer) and now my phone runs great next step is full root and a custom rom to fully cut out the bloat : D
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Have you people who are suffering from performance problems installed the OTA update? It was supposed to fix some performance issues IIRC. My DHD is blazingly fast and i have around 100 apps installed. I run SystemPanel too and haven't seen any high cpu use.
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Unfortunately I have to agree as well. Lags the whole time, ages to load the picture gallery with about 200 photos. But the worst thing, it is not supporting ActiveSync with Exchange 2010, for me incredible! I feel like on HD2 at the beginning, great hardware but bad software. On DHD I was sure that the software must be better but it is disappointing. I never had such lags on the HD2 even with the worst ROMs. I am also a bit diasappointed from the home screen. On HD2 with Co0kie home tab I had a lot of more information as I have now. The Market, for me the biggest improvement, is not really working since the begining, needs 20 retry to download a 1 MB app. I am sure HTC will fix most of the software problems but currently it is disappointing.
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Ive found a lot of the slow down is from programs starting up and starting in the ram most I found from htc :/ I've used root and a auto memory manger (one that uses the system, not an app killer) and now my phone runs great next step is full root and a custom rom to fully cut out the bloat : D
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i will give this a go.
it is a shame that in the end i have to get rid of HTC software.i know some may not agree with me but i like HTC's software.i loved what they did since i had my old Touch Pro.Manila made that phone different from others that time and ever since i was buying HTC phones for their innovative approach.i cannot believe they screwed up so much this time.but i've seen them fixing their mistakes before so i still have hope.
berek9999 said:
Have you people who are suffering from performance problems installed the OTA update? It was supposed to fix some performance issues IIRC. My DHD is blazingly fast and i have around 100 apps installed. I run SystemPanel too and haven't seen any high cpu use.
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yes.i applied OTA as a first thing after first boot.before i set up any account sync or installed any software.
EDIT: I got DHD after the OTA was released.
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i don,t know what you mean by "running stock".
and no.i don't use any task killer.don't think it is needed in Froyo.
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I meant "out of the box" I'm asking because you seem to point to the HTC software as the culprit for your lag problems, but it is not so clear to me why you come to this conclusion. I also use CPU monitoring aps, and my CPU load is mostly 0%. So how do you know it's not another app? Did you do a reboot? what happened after that.
I know it is not needed to run a Task killer, but it could be the reason for your lag, that's why I asked.
Maybe it needs gingerbread
Having said that, there is already report gingerbread will be out (on at least one handset) on 8th Nov. I m not convinced HTC will update DHD to Gingerbread for at least a few month given their track record with the past model. There will probably be only 1 update for the life time of DHD.
Is launcher pro a valid alternative to the sense? I mean will use more power and drain my battery faster? To use the memory manager should you get root? With Paul's visionary?
I am not giving up on sense just yet but I would like to know if there are alternatives...
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Black1982 said:
I meant "out of the box" I'm asking because you seem to point to the HTC software as the culprit for your lag problems, but it is not so clear to me why you come to this conclusion. I also use CPU monitoring aps, and my CPU load is mostly 0%. So how do you know it's not another app? Did you do a reboot? what happened after that.
I know it is not needed to run a Task killer, but it could be the reason for your lag, that's why I asked.
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well i noticed this after a few first hours of using DHD.that was before and after i added 3rd party software.the main reasons why i think that the cause of this lag is HTC software are...
-after a while of using Navigation app phone started to lag
-if i add navigation widget and then i navigate to that page on the home screen there is almost instant lag.
-it is not only Navigation app but some others too.like friend stream,htc peep etc.this apps worked fine on old Desire.i was using them on daily basis so i am sure.
-almost every other non HTC app i use runs smooth.
-when i sync my Gmail only,it is just fine.but if i use HTC sync all widget it is just painfully slow and it is slowing down the whole phone.
can you please recommend me an CPU monitor app you are using?so i can check my DHD with it.
Market is down.
The app is system panel and costs 3$.
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Endr1 said:
Market is down.
The app is system panel and costs 3$.
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i stated in my first post that this is an app i am using to monitor my phone.
problem is,it is showing me constant 100% CPU usage while phone is on but it doesn't show which app is responsible for this being such i high value.SystemPanel always worked without a problem for me and i always found defective apps with it.but in this case i have no idea how to track it down.SystemPanel simply doesn't see it or registering it.confused here a bit...
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i stated in my first post that this is an app i am using to monitor my phone.
problem is,it is showing me constant 100% CPU usage while phone is on but it doesn't show which app is responsible for this being such i high value.SystemPanel always worked without a problem for me and i always found defective apps with it.but in this case i have no idea how to track it down.SystemPanel simply doesn't see it or registering it.confused here a bit...
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SystemPanel works fine for me and usually shows < 10% cpu. Maybe you have something installed that's not fully compatible with the new Sense that is causing the problem? It seems there is a genuine problem here with quite a few people reporting it. The difficult bit is working out what it is of course since it's not affecting everyone.
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i stated in my first post that this is an app i am using to monitor my phone.
problem is,it is showing me constant 100% CPU usage while phone is on but it doesn't show which app is responsible for this being such i high value.SystemPanel always worked without a problem for me and i always found defective apps with it.but in this case i have no idea how to track it down.SystemPanel simply doesn't see it or registering it.confused here a bit...
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Try OSmonitor, in settings you can set it to show processes according to CPU load etc. I also use that app for looking at differnt logs eg. battery logs.
Perhaps you can also try SeePU for showing CPU and RAM usage in your notification bar! I like that I can see what's going on!
I'm trying to replicate yor problems using Navigation and Friendstream, but it doesn't slow down. You didn't install the youtube update by any chance?
Yesterday my touchscreen no longer responded to input. Hard buttons worked. Took it to T-Mobile and will have a replacement within 7 days. Anyone else have their touchscreen die on them?
Is the HD2 black? Yeah, everyone it seems has suffered from this...especially if you run Android alot.
Mine died today. Unfortunately I have bought it second hand and don't have a receipt.
Any hints for fixing it would be nice.
Mine did it too. Got the replacement and it did it on that one too the next day. I just kept flashing random roms and after 2 or 3, it unfroze. Lesson i learned? If in android, your screen freezes, DON'T reset or take out the battery. Wait til the screen turns off and it apparently is safe to reset. (I quickly do a reboot command in android)
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If you mean the screen, no. It boots up and everything fine, hard buttons work fine.
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Mine did it too. Got the replacement and it did it on that one too the next day. I just kept flashing random roms and after 2 or 3, it unfroze. Lesson i learned? If in android, your screen freezes, DON'T reset or take out the battery. Wait til the screen turns off and it apparently is safe to reset. (I quickly do a reboot command in android)
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Wow, interesting, if true, that Android could affect our touchscreen like this. I'd test out flashing new ROMs but I already reverted back to stock ROM and SPL when I took it to T-Mobile. Think I'll just use the loaner in the mean time and await my shiny new HD2 =D
happened to me.
and these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757117
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758846
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775333
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814584
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822777
happened to me again today. I had to flash 7 different roms but eventually it did unfreeze. I picked a new kernel from a thread in android, the one where it prevents screen freezes and it so far has worked. For some reason, for me, it does it when it gets near moisture. Doesn't have to be on the phone, but if its raining out, misty out, foggy out and even humid out, and it constantly freezes up. Nice dry sunny day and i know i am good all day. If its acting up, gps will kill it for sure.
Special Delivery =)
Well I just received my replacement today! =D Talk about a quick delivery, it got here before they even sent me the tracking number lol. Can't say its a "New" device. Telling from the hex screws it looks like it has been torn down. For a refurbished phone it looks new =)
Time to put Android back on =P
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happened to me.
and these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757117
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758846
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775333
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814584
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822777
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WOW, didn't realize it was this big of an issue. I'm sure there are others.
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happened to me again today. I had to flash 7 different roms but eventually it did unfreeze. I picked a new kernel from a thread in android, the one where it prevents screen freezes and it so far has worked. For some reason, for me, it does it when it gets near moisture. Doesn't have to be on the phone, but if its raining out, misty out, foggy out and even humid out, and it constantly freezes up. Nice dry sunny day and i know i am good all day. If its acting up, gps will kill it for sure.
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Interesting theory.
It started acting up this morning again so i changed the kernel to this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787588
because its supposed to have the touch screen freeze/g sensor issue patch built in. And it has not yet. (And the backlight to my keys work a LOT better vs. the bangsters one.)
Touchscreen death blows
I was so happy with my HTC HD2 leo ever since I put the Energy sense 2.5 rom on it with radio 2_10_50_08_2 until today. Have the same problem with non-responsive touchscreen but hard keys work fine. I didn't even get to put Android on it yet : (
Not sure if I should try random roms or switch back to the original rom; newbie here and need quickest and easiest solution. Input greatly appreciated.
Try going back to the stock 2.13 ROM and see if it helps. It more than likely won't, but it's always worth a try!
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Try going back to the stock 2.13 ROM and see if it helps. It more than likely won't, but it's always worth a try!
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That's exactly what I tried at first to no avail.
bigbodymissmari said:
I was so happy with my HTC HD2 leo ever since I put the Energy sense 2.5 rom on it with radio 2_10_50_08_2 until today. Have the same problem with non-responsive touchscreen but hard keys work fine. I didn't even get to put Android on it yet : (
Not sure if I should try random roms or switch back to the original rom; newbie here and need quickest and easiest solution. Input greatly appreciated.
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Someone stated that multiple flashes fixed his, so maybe going on a flashing spree may do it. Best of luck and if you still have manufactures warranty I'd say use that.
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It happened to me and I just got my new one about 15 minutes ago. Sad that Android does this, but it seems the MCCM builds caused mine to go out, since I replicated it three times. Oh well. I'll go through 10 if I have to, as I love my HD2
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Is the HD2 black? Yeah, everyone it seems has suffered from this...especially if you run Android alot.
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You have a stock rom for one, try the one darkstone suggests for it and flash your radio to a newer one, it fixed my problem with it, and I use it daily now...
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It happened to me and I just got my new one about 15 minutes ago. Sad that Android does this, but it seems the MCCM builds caused mine to go out, since I replicated it three times. Oh well. I'll go through 10 if I have to, as I love my HD2
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I don't think it's build dependant since it happened to me using CMYLXGO's Topia series build.
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Hey I got a HTC Hd2 and my touch screen is not working I bought it from a guy and have no warranty so do you know a solution to fixing it and I'm not sure if it had android put on it so if you could help I really would appreciate it.
Spidey EVO
spideytw2007 said:
Hey I got a HTC Hd2 and my touch screen is not working I bought it from a guy and have no warranty so do you know a solution to fixing it and I'm not sure if it had android put on it so if you could help I really would appreciate it.
Spidey EVO
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Does the phone boot properly and hard keys still functioning? If it's the same issue I and others had then your best bet is to flash roms untill it works again.
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This recently happened to my GF's phone, She said she was just playing a game one day, it froze so she popped the battery out and rebooted. Now every time she uses the End/Power ( red ) hard button to shutoff or wake up the device, the screen stays locked and won't respond.
I have tried soft reset, hard reset, different lock screens and what not. The only solution I found, besides sending it in, is to let the screen shut off by itself, and then wake it up with the Call/Send ( green ) hard button.
You can also try using the End/Power hard button to lock it, but then as long as you wake it with the Call/Send hard button it should be fine.
It has worked every time now. Try it and see if it helps! It's a little annoying but it saves money and insurance!
Going to repost this in all those previous listed threads to see if it helps anyone else.
Good Luck!
Happened to me the other day too. Mine was stock rom and t- mobile replaced it immediately. The new one came to my house within 16 hours and it runs silky smooth like mine never could have. I noticed it has a newer rom version than my original one.
rom 3.14.531.1
radio 2.15.50.11u
I found a work around, I have only tried this in android. Press the power button to turn the screen on, Then when it comes on it will not be responsive.
However if you turn the screen off then back on and try and unlock it it will respond and also i have noticed if the phone wakes it self up it will be responsive again.
I own an 512 eu htc hd2 and I have prj 3.2 nand rom.
I have a very bad wake up lag is there a solution for this problem?
sp33dy_gtx said:
I own an 512 eu htc hd2 and I have prj 3.2 nand rom.
I have a very bad wake up lag is there a solution for this problem?
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I'm waiting for an answer to that bug too :/
Uninstall setcpu and if it doesn't work just stfu, I have this issue as well but crying out loud, it's 2 seconds, you guys are just over reacting, nothing is gonna be perfect, hell the HD2 runs android better then most native devices in terms of performance, so let's just be grateful and mention this bug every ten minutes, ffs it's only 2 secs anyway, some people can't even use their touch screen or launch android.
tkato said:
Uninstall setcpu and if it doesn't work just stfu, I have this issue as well but crying out loud, it's 2 seconds, you guys are just over reacting, nothing is gonna be perfect, hell the HD2 runs android better then most native devices in terms of performance, so let's just be grateful and mention this bug every ten minutes, ffs it's only 2 secs anyway, some people can't even use their touch screen or launch android.
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Wow dude.. he was only asking a question, slow down. Btw, if you can't watch your language againts other people, dont reply.
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