I have T-Mobile, and they just put that tethering plan, however does that apply to the Nexus One and Nexus S? I hope not... please, need to know.
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I have T-Mobile, and they just put that tethering plan, however does that apply to the Nexus One and Nexus S? I hope not... please, need to know.
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No it does not, technically it doesnt apply to any device, you could theoretically just get an app and use it for wired tethering and they cant stop you
I am talking about the native Android tethering.
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I am talking about the native Android tethering.
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Again no it doesnt, it would be illegal for them to stop you, because that would require them to snoop on your data and thats illegal without a warrant, so tether away, its just data your already paying for
Alrighty, thanks
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Again no it doesnt, it would be illegal for them to stop you, because that would require them to snoop on your data and thats illegal without a warrant, so tether away, its just data your already paying for
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Answer is right, logic is way off...
In the olden days of long distance, it was not illegal for your phone company to track your usage for billing purposes. They don't have to monitor or snoop, but track.
Data use would be viewed the same way. they are within their rights to track usage for billing purposes, and that doesn't require monitoring or snooping.
Hope this helps.
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I asked the T-Mobile representative directly this very question when I activated my Nexus-S. She told me that the phone supports tethering, and that my unlimited data plan would not be affected at all if my laptop or other device shared the tethering connection. I pressed further, pointing out that Sprint charges an extra $29 for turning on tethering for the device, and she said that T-Mobile would not do that. I confirmed AGAIN that "unlimited" truly meant unlimited, and she replied that, yes, there is no hidden limit, that unlimited really mean there was no limit.
What T-Mobile seems to monitor is the User Agent of the web browser you are using on their data connection. You can modify your desktop's browser's user agent(there's a great thread on this in the MT4G forums, but I can't recall where it is at the moment) to mimic that of Android and they wouldn't know any the wiser.
As far as your question goes, the answer is yes and no. Tethering is not free. They charge money for that service. Can you tether and get away with it? Yes. I have tethered just fine, including torrenting a 1gb file without any issue. T-Mobile can, and has, blocked folks from tethering by redirecting you to their website. You usually receive a TXT message as well.
As far as unlimited data goes, and this might just be for HSPA+ devices, there is a 5GB cap. After 5GBs your connection may be throttled.
More info on Tethering: http://www.bgr.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
More info on 5GB cap: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-reducing-data-cap-will-throttle-speeds-after-5gb-of-usage/
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Again no it doesnt, it would be illegal for them to stop you, because that would require them to snoop on your data and thats illegal without a warrant, so tether away, its just data your already paying for
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Only the government requires a warrant. Unless there are specific laws against DPI (I'm sure there aren't - yet) tmo can snoop all it wants since its a private entity.
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Only the government requires a warrant. Unless there are specific laws against DPI (I'm sure there aren't - yet) tmo can snoop all it wants since its a private entity.
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Im a private entity, does that mean that me snooping on my neighbors internet is legal, no
not like ive ever done that
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Im a private entity, does that mean that me snooping on my neighbors internet is legal, no
not like ive ever done that
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It is if they're using your internet!
This whole thing about warrants or what have you is pointless because the data connection isn't your personal property. You don't own it. T-Mobile owns it. It's theirs and they can do what they want with it. You are leasing/renting/being a guest on their network. Same logic is behind why your landlord, or his appointed representatives, can enter your residence at will or why moderators on forums such as these can censor you if they so choose without worrying about "freedom of speech" issues. This is their property, not yours.
Also it's in the terms & conditions of your service contract lol.
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There is a thread at G2 forum about it and I did his method on my Mytouch 4g and it seems that the internet speed is still being throttled after.
What I did:
1) I install update-Ice-Glacier-v1.1.1-Themed_signed
2) I turn on data roaming and download Phone info and set to WDCMA only
3) I modify the service.jar successfully and install it into my phone
I get a nice 6Mbits/sec a few minutes but afterwards the speed goes down to 0.02Mbits/sec again.
Anyone has an idea how to defeat throttling for this phone?
I think this belongs in the Q&A forum, but I don't think there is anyway around it. From what I understand, they control it on their end. As a person that goes well beyond the 5GB cap per month, they seem to throttle you down for a day then things return back to normal speeds. Others have reported that this has happened to them as well.
If there is something we could do on our end that would be great, but T-Mobile does reserve the right to terminate our data plans if we constantly violate the terms and conditions. There was one person who regularly hits around 30GB a month. If they do cancel data plans, I bet he'd be the first to know.
Aside from going into tmobile corporate and changing it, theres nothing any rom changes are going to do unless you can change your phone number, IMEI numbers.......
If it could be done, it would have been. And they are enforcing it more now with the added tethering plans. 5gb on a phone is a lot, if your using it for tethering, then they have the right to charge you more to keep the network open for others
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Aside from going into tmobile corporate and changing it, theres nothing any rom changes are going to do unless you can change your phone number, IMEI numbers.......
If it could be done, it would have been. And they are enforcing it more now with the added tethering plans. 5gb on a phone is a lot, if your using it for tethering, then they have the right to charge you more to keep the network open for others
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Even if you pay for tethering it's still cheaper than home internet, and once HSPA+ is fully rolled out it might even be faster to boot!
If you pay for tethering, will it be truly unlimited?
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If you pay for tethering, will it be truly unlimited?
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Nothing is truly unlimited. If you consume to many resources in which it effects others you could be limited.
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Nothing is truly unlimited. If you consume to many resources in which it effects others you could be limited.
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I suppose I should be more clear. My question is does the 5GB cap/throttle down apply to those who pay for tethering?
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I suppose I should be more clear. My question is does the 5GB cap/throttle down apply to those who pay for tethering?
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Yes, it applies to every TMobile's data plans
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I suppose I should be more clear. My question is does the 5GB cap/throttle down apply to those who pay for tethering?
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Q&A Please!!!!!!!!!!!
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I suppose I should be more clear. My question is does the 5GB cap/throttle down apply to those who pay for tethering?
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Yes, it applies to every TMobile's data plans
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I'm not sure this is true, otherwise what would be the point of paying for the plan?
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I'm not sure this is true, otherwise what would be the point of paying for the plan?
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Because since they have the different data plans now like 250mb etc..., the tehtering is just an added choice.
But yes, on all "unlimited" plans there is a 5gb cap, and then its their choice by your area and usage to throttle you or not.
I have actually gotten up to 250gb before the tiered plans came out before I was throttled. I was in an area that didnt have internet access and had to tether my pc and Ps3. Was interesting to explain in store why my use was so high lol
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Because since they have the different data plans now like 250mb etc..., the tehtering is just an added choice.
But yes, on all "unlimited" plans there is a 5gb cap, and then its their choice by your area and usage to throttle you or not.
I have actually gotten up to 250gb before the tiered plans came out before I was throttled. I was in an area that didnt have internet access and had to tether my pc and Ps3. Was interesting to explain in store why my use was so high lol
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and I thought 30GB's a month was high.
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and I thought 30GB's a month was high.
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lol.. I was even told I wasnt the worst.
Please post questions in Q&A section.
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lol.. I was even told I wasnt the worst.
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HA!
I guess the "tethering plan" only applies if you're using one of T-mobile's tethering apps, but I don't know why any of us would do that. All you need is PDANet and then they can't tell the difference between data usage and "data usage."
Even the stock android usb tether is available. I fail to understand what exactly we are paying for, if not a higher cap.
Anybody cares to share his Kung Fu to disable throttling on this phone please
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Nope still the same cap 5gb even if you pay for tmo tv as well easytether and pdanet arte not identified by tmobile your ua string is.
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Mrdaviso said:
Nope still the same cap 5gb even if you pay for tmo tv as well easytether and pdanet arte not identified by tmobile your ua string is.
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what's a ua string?
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Check out my thread on this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845225
Here's a walk through I also did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9306107&postcount=17
i dont really see how you guys are having issues, i go over 5GB's (by quite a bit some months) at least 10 months outta the year, even with my blackberry (a while ago)... in the last 9 years with T-Mo (had smartphones+data for 5 of those years) i have gotted 2 txt's that i would be throttled (and then it never even happened) and thats IT!... maybe because they can tell ive been with T-mo even longer than DTK (deutche telekom), when i signed up it was voicestream and powertel... or maybe because i have so many phones (3 dealer lines, 1 data line + 4 full retail price lines in Family plan)
now i get HSPA+ at home (not that that matters too much with a 30/10 pipe) and my data usage has been higher, ive been using my phone to stream HD movies and TV from the house to wherever the hell i happen to be (watch movies and tv at work???? nawwww, why would i do that?)
Any way to create hotspot in Gignerblur (without paying extra to ATT) ?
Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
Force
Data plans are already limited. Screw them.
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Wow, this is exactly what people were talking about in that long thread about how most people dont steal tethering, lol. Way more of the casual users do than you think and thus its justified for At&T to lock down any device they feel they need to.
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F that -- I pay for unlimited internet access from them AND for unlimited text (even though texting is JUST data). I should be able to use my unlimited internet the way I want to use it without having to incur more charges.
1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.
Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.
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1) texting is NOT DATA, it uses un-use protions of the VOICE network.
2) you pay for unlimited data on YOUR DEVICE not on every wi-fi enabled device you own.
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ATT gives us 2gb of data for 25 dollars a month, why do they get to control the way that we use those 2gb? If you were on an unlimited plan and used tens of gigs per month then I would understand how that would be abusing the system but if you are on a data capped plan then tether away in my opinion.
I would agree except you signed a contract.
Yes. , we all signed contracts. It's not like we were given much choice. In the usa all cell carriers practice the same policy. They all make money from costumers that need their services. But they force our hand into paying for services that are overpriced and convenientley designed to bring them even more profit to our losses. I would love to be able to buy a smartphone and use the limited data plan it comes with any way I want to. If I get 2 gigs and want to use them through my pc, well, than I should've allowed to do so. Data is data and is sold to us in a certain quantity, at not allways good quality, because or speed limitations and reception. We pay for it anyway, but why should we settle for tethering charges? Well because we have no choice. All carriers do the same so there are no options. They do it because they want more monkey and apparently nobody can stop them. Its like gas prices. They find the lamest reasons to increase prices and they get away with it because we need gas and are so damn dependent on it. We now need data and we will pay for it no matter the unfairness of the conditions. Maybe they should start charging extra if we buy gas for anything else other than our personal cars. Like if u want to use your boat, well, than u have to have a different price for that. Im tyerd and rambling but its not right.
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dcarpenter85 said:
Did you enable tether+sideload when you rooted? If so, just choose the custom tether APN and then enable hotspot. Tether+sideload is something separate from Gingerblur.
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How do I do that? I did exactly this directions ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12631216&postcount=2911
Thanks a lot
To Forcelite. I pay for 2GB data, I would like to use it whatever way I'd like.
It should have asked you if you wanted to enable sideloading and/or tethering at somepoint after you ran beforeupdate.bat
Got it, thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZi-5MOs7pc
this reminds me of back in the day when isp tried to charge extra for people with more than one computer in the house, then wifi routers came along... kinda ridiculous that people pay for their data and cant use it how they want, what difference does it make as long as users dont go over their data plan. this just seems like a method for att to get people to sign up for more data that they can use by restricting tether.
Bad news! I am at a buddies house using WiFi Router, and then Internet Sharing over Bluetooth PAN and just got a text from the new AT&T owned T-mobile service center saying my teather/WiFi sharing will be blocked unless I purchase a special plan from them...
I LOVE my HD2 Leo, but after everything they've put me through over the last 2 years, this may be the final insult. Free teathering and recently the way cool xda WiFi Router app have been a benifit allowance that now will be tossed on the plate of the all mighty cash cow.
I wonder if a cooked ROM HD2, or 3rd party app might get around this, but alas! They probably detect the networked devices different IP. Can we Yanks please flood T-mobile customer service with requests to stop this greedy new rule? If one has the unlimited data plan, what does it matter which device is using it?
greedy? why is it greedy? the networks are tehre to make money aswell as provide a service, the data plan you have is normally for mobile data use only, the network im on do not allow tethering at all due to the sheer volume of data than can be used when you hook a laptop up tot he data connection
nothing will get around it if they are using software to detect what header data is being sent
is it truly unlimited tho? my proivder says it is unlinuted buyt there is a soft cap of about 20Gb whcih if you are using that on a mobile phone is absolutely crazy, it is stop people using a cheaper mobile data connection than havin to pay for proper broadband
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Bad news! I am at a buddies house using WiFi Router, and then Internet Sharing over Bluetooth PAN and just got a text from the new AT&T owned T-mobile service center saying my teather/WiFi sharing will be blocked unless I purchase a special plan from them...
I LOVE my HD2 Leo, but after everything they've put me through over the last 2 years, this may be the final insult. Free teathering and recently the way cool xda WiFi Router app have been a benifit allowance that now will be tossed on the plate of the all mighty cash cow.
I wonder if a cooked ROM HD2, or 3rd party app might get around this, but alas! They probably detect the networked devices different IP. Can we Yanks please flood T-mobile customer service with requests to stop this greedy new rule? If one has the unlimited data plan, what does it matter which device is using it?
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Which plan do you have?
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greedy? why is it greedy? the networks are tehre to make money aswell as provide a service, the data plan you have is normally for mobile data use only, the network im on do not allow tethering at all due to the sheer volume of data than can be used when you hook a laptop up tot he data connection
nothing will get around it if they are using software to detect what header data is being sent
is it truly unlimited tho? my proivder says it is unlinuted buyt there is a soft cap of about 20Gb whcih if you are using that on a mobile phone is absolutely crazy, it is stop people using a cheaper mobile data connection than havin to pay for proper broadband
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You are lucky, T_Mobile has a 5GB soft cap, unless your 20GB quote was a typo and was suppose to be 2GB.
You are right if they are looking for people tethering then they will find you. I tether a good bit so I know they will find me eventually and I will hate it. I mean no matter what someone says about it, this is a clear injustice to the consumer. The consumer should have the right to use their devices and services they pay for in the manor they wish. Not be told 'Hey sorry but we can nolonger offer this service for free". It is a crock if you ask me.
I don't know why you say a cheaper mobile data service. Cause I pay $30 USD a month for my unlimited data, and it is $30 a month for a broadband service on a USB broad band device for my computer through T-Mobile. It uses the same dang network as my phone at the same dang speeds. So please tell me why I should have to pay for a "proper broadband" service, if I already have it with my phone? All you get when you get a broadband device is the cost of the device coupled with the monthly payment for the services. It is even worse that they want you to pay for something that has been free for a good while now just to add to their profits. It has nothing to do with this bull you heart about overloaded networks and the sort, those are all just a legitimizing statements to say "Hey we are right to instate these news regulations", and the mindless masses to not question the real legitimacy of it.
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You are lucky, T_Mobile has a 5GB soft cap, unless your 20GB quote was a typo and was suppose to be 2GB.
You are right if they are looking for people tethering then they will find you. I tether a good bit so I know they will find me eventually and I will hate it. I mean no matter what someone says about it, this is a clear injustice to the consumer. The consumer should have the right to use their devices and services they pay for in the manor they wish. Not be told 'Hey sorry but we can nolonger offer this service for free". It is a crock if you ask me.
I don't know why you say a cheaper mobile data service. Cause I pay $30 USD a month for my unlimited data, and it is $30 a month for a broadband service on a USB broad band device for my computer through T-Mobile. It uses the same dang network as my phone at the same dang speeds. So please tell me why I should have to pay for a "proper broadband" service, if I already have it with my phone? All you get when you get a broadband device is the cost of the device coupled with the monthly payment for the services. It is even worse that they want you to pay for something that has been free for a good while now just to add to their profits. It has nothing to do with this bull you heart about overloaded networks and the sort, those are all just a legitimizing statements to say "Hey we are right to instate these news regulations", and the mindless masses to not question the real legitimacy of it.
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no not a typo, thats what some people have downlaoded before being cut off, personally i dont use anywhere near 500meg because i do all my browsing etc when im conencted to wifi in the house, people seem use the data connection on their phone for their home internet which is what causes the high volumes
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)
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They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
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I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.
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I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.
I've been tethering for a while now with my phone and I noticed that lately it seems like my internet stops working after a while. Sometimes it will let me download as much as 2GBs then it starts kicking me off minutes after I begin tethering.
Is Sprint able to see if I'm tethering now? I don't care to much either way I'm fine using my phone to download the things I need. It's just sometimes my downloads fail after reaching 100% so I like to use my PC more.
I have noticed that I've used 50GB this month .
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I've been tethering for a while now with my phone and I noticed that lately it seems like my internet stops working after a while. Sometimes it will let me download as much as 2GBs then it starts kicking me off minutes after I begin tethering.
Is Sprint able to see if I'm tethering now? I don't care to much either way I'm fine using my phone to download the things I need. It's just sometimes my downloads fail after reaching 100% so I like to use my PC more.
I have noticed that I've used 50GB this month .
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So its because of people like you I get slow connections whenever I try to open any website on my phone if I can't use a wifi.
Ever heard of cable internet?
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obsanity said:
So its because of people like you I get slow connections whenever I try to open any website on my phone if I can't use a wifi.
Ever heard of cable internet?
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That's BS. Don't throw claims around no one knows are true. I tether and the other sprint 4g phones in my household don't take a hit in bandwidth. The amount of people that tether alot or a small minority compared to people that don't. Blame sprint for not giving you a good connection, not us. Anywho, back to this torrent...
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Sprint told me to root my phone and tether.
I don't think they check.
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That's BS. Don't throw claims around no one knows are true. I tether and the other sprint 4g phones in my household don't take a hit in bandwidth. The amount of people that tether alot or a small minority compared to people that don't. Blame sprint for not giving you a good connection, not us. Anywho, back to this torrent...
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actualy they can tell and torrent downloaders are so easy spot, and im pretty sure torrent downloading might be in the fine print somewhere.
Oh also your so cool bro replacing home internet with sprints weak 3g/4g service that does not have any net neatrilty laws lol you will be gone sooner or later
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I read recently sprint was pulling tethering apps from the market so they may be trying to weed out some in addition the recent 5GB cap on hotspot, i'm sure they are fine tuning their system to track data in different manners. Currently they cant even separate hotspot and phone data, that should serve interesting to how they implement overages.
Yeah. Eventually when all the unlimited plans are gone at least we'll know why.
Also, sprint can tell your tethering, they're just not actively doing anything about it yet. After all when you are on 3G or 4G you go through their IP gateway and they can control what you see and can tell what you're using to see it. The only way to prevent that would be through vpn and maybe some https but headers still have to go through clean.
P2P is probably the easiest to detect even if encrypted so good luck trying to get your number back after they close your account.
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True, i would hope the systems are able to track it with all the tracking a smartphone is capable of especially just knowing the browser type they should be able to see who's tethering. I'm really curious to see how this plays out over the next year or two with data usage.
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That's BS. Don't throw claims around no one knows are true. I tether and the other sprint 4g phones in my household don't take a hit in bandwidth. The amount of people that tether alot or a small minority compared to people that don't. Blame sprint for not giving you a good connection, not us. Anywho, back to this torrent...
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No definitely you guys
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searchfirst said:
I read recently sprint was pulling tethering apps from the market so they may be trying to weed out some in addition the recent 5GB cap on hotspot, i'm sure they are fine tuning their system to track data in different manners. Currently they cant even separate hotspot and phone data, that should serve interesting to how they implement overages.
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Actually they can
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Don't believe anyone who says they cannot tell if your tethering. All they have to do is check what the source and destination mac address using a program such as wireshark to sniff the IP of your phone.
Also don't believe anyone who says your phone is affecting their bandwidth. Bandwidth depends on signal strength and how much bandwidth they are using on their 3g 4g frequencies they use. Its different everywhere for every tower and has to do with the type of license they were able to obtain from the fcc for the tower you are using.
As far as your question regarding sprint killing your downloads, you would need to find a way to sniff you phone's 3g/4g connection to find out whats killing the packets. i would guess that its probably an issue with the connection(s) timing out for high ping times. i don't know if there is a way to manually adjust the ttl in android.
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So its because of people like you I get slow connections whenever I try to open any website on my phone if I can't use a wifi.
Ever heard of cable internet?
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Guess what jackass not everyone has cable availability. I live in the county and I don't have cable, or DSL available. In fact as of this year I can no longer get a phone line to my home. The only options some of us have are satellite internet or tethering.
They may be able to on a backend but sprint.com and their billing system doesn't show the difference. Currently if you call sprint and ask for your hotspots usage they cannot provide an answer.
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Don't believe anyone who says they cannot tell if your tethering. All they have to do is check what the source and destination mac address using a program such as wireshark to sniff the IP of your phone.
Also don't believe anyone who says your phone is affecting their bandwidth. Bandwidth depends on signal strength and how much bandwidth they are using on their 3g 4g frequencies they use. Its different everywhere for every tower and has to do with the type of license they were able to obtain from the fcc for the tower you are using.
As far as your question regarding sprint killing your downloads, you would need to find a way to sniff you phone's 3g/4g connection to find out whats killing the packets. i would guess that its probably an issue with the connection(s) timing out for high ping times. i don't know if there is a way to manually adjust the ttl in android.
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Yes but torenting is easy to spot due the way it downloads parts of bytes from different spots
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Windst said:
Sprint told me to root my phone and tether.
I don't think they check.
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Really????
My wife hates XDA
dowmace said:
Guess what jackass not everyone has cable availability. I live in the county and I don't have cable, or DSL available. In fact as of this year I can no longer get a phone line to my home. The only options some of us have are satellite internet or tethering.
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There are means to tether when you have no options. I was pointing out the ops ignorant approach to data usage since he clearly has a different internet connection but still chooses to use the phone.
Keep your jackass to yourself.
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There are means to tether when you have no options. I was pointing out the ops ignorant approach to data usage since he clearly has a different internet connection but still chooses to use the phone.
Keep your jackass to yourself.
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You blamed him for your data speeds. If he is causing low data speeds, then how do the people legitimately tethering not effect your speeds?
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There are means to tether when you have no options. I was pointing out the ops ignorant approach to data usage since he clearly has a different internet connection but still chooses to use the phone.
Keep your jackass to yourself.
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I never said I have another internet connection. I said I could simply just download the files with my phone. I preferred to use my PC instead because I can avoid having to transfer files.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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You blamed him for your data speeds. If he is causing low data speeds, then how do the people legitimately tethering not effect your speeds?
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Sprint would accommodate for that. But because people abuse the otherwise would be fair use type of tether system, soon people such as yourself, who can't have any other access will be either limited to a ridiculous 5GB per month or not have the ability at all.
For people like myself who ocasonally use tether without tether plan (because of root access) to check some emails/web when stranded without wifi access, Sprint may disable that all together and we'll be forced to pay the $30 per month fee for the 1 or 2 times a year of 100-200MB of data used.
That's why I can't stand people abusing it. And for the op... if you truly do not have any other means of getting a wired data line, I hope you are at least paying for it even though it may no longer be unlimited.
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obsanity said:
Sprint would accommodate for that. But because people abuse the otherwise would be fair use type of tether system, soon people such as yourself, who can't have any other access will be either limited to a ridiculous 5GB per month or not have the ability at all.
For people like myself who ocasonally use tether without tether plan (because of root access) to check some emails/web when stranded without wifi access, Sprint may disable that all together and we'll be forced to pay the $30 per month fee for the 1 or 2 times a year of 100-200MB of data used.
That's why I can't stand people abusing it. And for the op... if you truly do not have any other means of getting a wired data line, I hope you are at least paying for it even though it may no longer be unlimited.
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Obsanity, Were I can definitely understand your frustration with sprints slow network (I feel the same way), Sprint advertises unlimited data on smartphones. regardless of him paying for tethering (which he should pay for), data is data, and its all 1's and 0's and therefor is a mute point. People that tether without paying for it are not cause of slow data, however they will be the cause of tiered data plans. Until that happens chill out and relax. If you have a signal , -60db or better, then call sprint and have them take a look at the tower. if they insist its your phone, have them replace it. if they won't look at the tower, thank them for their time and file a complaint with the fcc.