Please correct me if I'm wrong. - Epic 4G General

Ok, dont start any fights or anything, this is just my opinion.
The only reason the American Galaxy S phones don't have froyo yet is because they were working on a 2.2 build, then 2.2 was found to have security problems that all phones with 2.2 have. So Google fixes it and makes the update 2.2.1 ,which means Samsung had to trash the 2.2 froyo they were working on and had to start from scratch on the 2.2.1 update we will be receiving. I hope this makes sense.
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They did have to ditch most of what was done on 2.2,but there were still issues,so that was not the exact reason.
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2.2.1 is THAT different from 2.2 that they couldn't just patch 2.2? I have trouble believing that.

I understand that it isn't the only reason they had to start over. But we originally would've gotten 2.2 in Oct or Nov.
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Yea, all I am saying is that it doesn't take 2 months to patch 2.2 to 2.2.1. There has to be something else that caused the delay as well.

It was an issue with the phnes adb. There's no way they trashed anything. Patches are easy to apply to code. Litterally a few mouse clicks. And not only that but dif all the files and pull in the differences, would take a 5 year old a few hours at most.
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Ok. Thanks for all the replies. Im glad this is being used for people to express their opinions about this problem.
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Is DK28 really the final?

The only reason I wonder is because the charging dock still doesn't work with audio out, which was a promised feature.
spitefulrain said:
The only reason I wonder is because the charging dock still doesn't work with audio out, which was a promised feature.
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I have been trying to figure that out myself... Yesterday (or should i say Saturday) dk28 was speculated as an RC... Then I hear its the final version of froyo... I too am very confused.. Seems to be a lot of people with a lot of problems but who knows...
No way this is final.
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The only reason I wonder is because the charging dock still doesn't work with audio out, which was a promised feature.
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I think that will come with a separate software update from the dock software.
If were on the leaked froyo right now will our phone still pick up the ota update when sprint releases the final?
superbraut said:
If were on the leaked froyo right now will our phone still pick up the ota update when sprint releases the final?
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Nope.
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Considering its on Google servers and an OTA we know its at least an RC...as for whether its a final or not depends on Sprint...
In my opinion this rom is stable enough to release...its true its not 100% perfect but sprint isn't looking for 100% perfect..it just has to be decent enough...
I'm sure most of the problems were caused by people not wiping or restoring their old data which conflicts...thats not to say that there is no bugs of course...
I heard a rumor by a credible source (unless he was just running interference) that dk28 was never going to be released and the final was going to be dl07 which is tomorrow
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adamw1101 said:
I heard a rumor by a credible source (unless he was just running interference) that dk28 was never going to be released and the final was going to be dl07 which is tomorrow
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noobnl had posted that DL03 was supposed to be originally, but that may have changed. I also think dk28 was a slip and wasn't intended to go live even for test units.
I'm not sure but honestly froyo has given me very few problems.
The only few I've countered is with random services popping up and samsung widgets disappearing.
I've had a few checkers in the browser, but very rarely.
Overall, its dk28. It seemed ready and it is for the most part, but I had expect an update soon.
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Hi all. Take a look at the following link. It will take you to the Sprint community forum where admin has said that Sprint has not released the update. I cannot post a link as I am a new member, so you will have to remove the spaces within the url:
http :// community .sprint . com /baw/thread/52621;;jsessionid=9BEC6DB99682579B9B0174B54A8C6CEA.app4jive1?INTNAV=SUP:CO
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No way is DK28 a final RC. It left my GPS in zero condition, the Gallery crashed while UL some pics to Facebook necessitating a battery removal to reboot. There were no user problems here as I flashed a tar file.
That makes me wonder if froyo had a more negative effect on rooted or pre peviously rooted users. I have never rooted and i updated from the stock. The problems I've had are very little.
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Dulanic said:
noobnl had posted that DL03 was supposed to be originally, but that may have changed. I also think dk28 was a slip and wasn't intended to go live even for test units.
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How would you make a slip like that? I think it was intended for test units at the very least...
DL03 is possible I guess but DL07 sounds a little strange as its only December 6th...
Of my year and a half with android phones, this is the biggest piece of crap update I've ever seen. I didn't make it 24 hours before the lag started really making me mad. I went back to di18 then nandroid restore. I'm going to wait awhile and see what happens. Maybe.
This is not the official update
The OP is correct. In multiple posts at Sprint's own user forum yesterday, the Sprint admin clearly denied that there has been an official update.
I posted links to those Sprint statments on multiple threads here, but few seem to pay attention. The DK28 downloads we are seeing are a leak, not an official release.
Conspiracy theory time: we're all public RC testers. Sprint allowed that file to be put on Google's servers knowing that somebody here would find it, and knowing that we here will have our phones in all range of possible configurations - from stock to stock/rooted to fully customized. They may not get very scientific data from our experience but they'd get a lot of anecdotal data to add to whatever data they've collected themselves through their own testing.
If this is a RC, they may have thought all of the bugs were worked out and are now seeing some new ones that they didn't know about. We've all tried various things before to get our GPS to work and maybe something we've done is responsible for breaking it completely in DK28... and that's something they might not have known would happen.
Other than the GPS death, though, I've had no problems with DK28. After the painful process of reverting to DI18, re-updating and then restoring all my apps and settings, everything now works (except MediaHub, which is actually a blessing) and the UI is smooth and fast for me.
My gps Is working flawlessly, snag had since the moment I flashed dk28 maybe it is the rom you are using.
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I don't believe dk28 is final myself. It just doesn't perform as good as di18. The only improvement for me has been working GPS. Flash is not a big deal to me. Games like Asphalt are jittery and glitchy. The UI is a bit laggy and jittery as well. These are issues that should have been resolved even in a RC. As it stands now, if this is the final release, I'm gonna roll back to a custom 2.1 ROM and wait for an improved version of Froyo(or Gingerbread lol)
Its not the final. Wish people would stop claiming that it is and confusing new XDA members. There are too many problems with DK28 and DI18 was too stable and polished a release for samsung to truly consider this an upgrade.

Are we ever going to get 2.2

I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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It will get 2.2 eventually, but only time will tell how long. If we can get kernel source for the I500 phones, we should be able to get you a working kernel, and you may be able to use one of the Fascinate Froyo ROMs then. The biggest problem you'll have is getting the kernel until Samsung releases the OTA or source because of the different video driver used for the screen/ticker/soft keys.
lincoln3823 said:
I love my phone but it's frustrating seeing other galaxy devices getting updates left and right while we get left in the dark
I posted a comment on samsung forum saying that this phone is great but it's already outdated when it hit the stores and they denied my comment
Honestly I'm losing hope due to the fact my girlfriend had a Droid Incredible with 2.2 even my old G1 has 2.2 it may be to much for it to handle it but it still has 2.2
Btw. If it wasn't for you developers I would have left a long time ago Thank You Guys
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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I'm with you on this update lincoln3823. Very frustrating hearing other phones have froyo while a phone released in November is unable to get an update.
I love my phone but I'm going crazy with my RSS not working at all and SNS not working correctly (facebook-yes; twitter-no).
I've even reset my phone and it worked for maybe a couple of days.
Why won't they push an update to froyo??
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Well it was said that samsung was charging carriers to release ota firmware updates. I don't know how much it is true but I'm starting to believe the rumors.
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If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
sytech55 said:
If that's true, that really stinks.
Sure wish I new someone who knows the answer to this question.
Heck, I might even pay for it, if the cost (ROI) was worth it. Sure would like to see flash on my phone. Besides froyo has 57% of the market vs. eclair at 31%.
That's crazy considering the Continuum came out in November.
On another note:
I haven't rooted my phone and I noticed your signature as Rooted.
Question? Is it worth rooting? I've read Pros on it but haven't seen any Cons. What's the drawback on it? Updates? Can you revert back to stock if I choose too.
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There is only 1 con of rooting. Having to re-root after an OTA update
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Yea are no cons every since I rooted my phone. I was able to freeze all of verizon garbage freeing up memory thats usually taken by crap that I don't use eg. skype and you can root and unroot as many times as you like
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I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
sytech55 said:
I hear you dfgged.
So like I've been looking around at forums to root my phone but I have no idea what I'm doing. Really none. Just got my continuum in Jan. I read about OneClick and SuperOneClick (think that's right) and sometimes it works and sometime not.
Can you point me to the "Root for Dummies" section?
Also, what software do I need to backup my phone incase of trouble so I can revert back to stock?
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If you want, I could make a tutorial much like my one for CWM. It might take me a bit to edit it though, but better late than never XD
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Tutorials are always great. I'd love to see it.
BTW, I rooted my phone using SuperOneClick. It worked perfectly and I've verified it using Root Checker. Now my next step is I want to remove or freeze the bloatware.
I'll direct future non Subject (Are we ever going to get 2.2) related questions to appropriate Threads posting.
I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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I really didn't have an idea about rooting either....seems like I was looking everywhere for rooting information. I tried z4 multiple times with no effect. superoneclick worked. I am running a windows 7 laptop. The phone drivers updated (downloaded from the net) when I plugged in my phone. Then I followed the video instructions on superoneclick site and everything worked fine. continuum w/ verizon. Now I just need to figure out how update to 2.2 I"m on the way!
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There is no leaks available yet so the only way to get to 2.2 is to wait, or hope that Adrynalyne can get a leak.
But both imnuts and Adrynalyne are both working on custom roms so there will be some love for the continuum
Continuum
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
tclair said:
It's now March 29, still no 2.2. Any info?
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samsung submitted ec17 for the fascinate to verizon...and apparently that is still in testing...im just gonna assume it ll fail testing like most of their updates and never come out
the fascinate root crowd no longer really cares though as the mesmerize 2.2 officially came out w/ source....
but it seems like continuum updates follow quickly behind fascinate updates...so if hypothetically a fascinate ota occured like this week then it would probably be soon after for the i400
Ok, I was just fine tweaking 2.1 for now until something happened and we finaly got 2.2+, since Eclair isn't really that bad. Now I am starting to see 2.2+ only apps (ones that I want to try mostly) and it's starting to make me less patient. It saddens me since this phone had so much potential with the decent hardware and interesting ticker feature, but it is quickly being left in the dust as the little android that couldn't... /sadpanda
Looks like Samsung has released the Froyo source code for the Fascinate... that could be a good sign... Of course, isn't there a Fascinate on Rogers (Canada) that has had Froyo for awhile?
I know I saw it on android central and I got excited but then again we did get left behind once before
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So how do I back up my existing rom. I'd liked to try the non bloated dl17 but want to make sure I can still get back to original if need be.
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Looks like the Fascinate update will start rolling out tomorrow.... Here's hoping we're not far behind.
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Where did you get this info?
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[Q] Is 2.2 for sure in testing?

Because I'm curious, I know some say that its currently in testing.
I found this site from the Motorola site:
https://motorola-global-android.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/62460
Which makes it look like 2.2 is coming verrrry soon.
yes, i can tell you not only is it in testing but most likely coming soon.
i have seen proof of it on phones.
Patience
Oh no rush at all! Just wanting clarification. Thanks guys!
Just strange its not on the motorola update chart
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zachthepack said:
Oh no rush at all! Just wanting clarification. Thanks guys!
Just strange its not on the motorola update chart
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does any one know, by the way, if the update is going to be released OTA or if its going to be a process like the update for the captivate and aria?
Edit: looks like the process is similar to that of the captivate and aria.
MCFarmfresh said:
does any one know, by the way, if the update is going to be released OTA or if its going to be a process like the update for the captivate and aria?
Edit: looks like the process is similar to that of the captivate and aria.
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No its OTA. It goes out like all the other moto phones ota's.
the private moto forums have discussed it and it seems besides one girl having issues (unrelated to the update probably) everyone is saying it works good.
I dont know what they are watiing for, but surprisingly, the 2.2 rom is done and ready to ship. Probably waiting fot att confirmation.
Guess we get a carrier text when it is about to come out?
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bandroidx said:
No its OTA. It goes out like all the other moto phones ota's.
the private moto forums have discussed it and it seems besides one girl having issues (unrelated to the update probably) everyone is saying it works good.
I dont know what they are watiing for, but surprisingly, the 2.2 rom is done and ready to ship. Probably waiting fot att confirmation.
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Sweet. That is excellent news.
Uh oh
Will it still upgrade to 2.2 if I have removed the AT&T branded crapware?
What application/service do I need to unblock in droidwall for it to come down?
Did you totally remove the crapware?? I used Bloat Freezer on the ATT bloatware and unfroze everything before updating. No problems.
Yes. This was before I read that you had to keep it. Removed without backup with Titanium right after I had rooted. Would a factory reset put it back? I'd like to not have to exchange the phone at a store, but not having Froyo is kind of a killer. I mean, FPSE isn't even compatible with eclair
What i'm hoping for is that motorola will put it on the update map soon so that we have a rough date. As for apps.. if anything couldn't we get the files off one of our bravos if factory reset doesn't work?
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I just saw on the motorola website forum that they were looking for 1000 people to do final testing prior to roolout. Deadline to register just ended. Wish I would have found it sooner.
BRAVO™ with MOTOBLUR™: pre-release software testing offer (Registration closes at 3pm Central time 3/30/11)
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47978
Do these usually last a couple weeks or a couple months
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This is my first motorola android phone. How long does it typically take after they release the final build of a sw version for them to officially release to the general public? Also, has anyone who has gotten the update, uploaded it anywhere for others to download or is that even possible with this type of release? Thanks.

Fascinate Gingerbread leak, what does that mean for us?

So, the Fascinate recently had a Gingerbread leak drop..... Since that phone is our phone's brother, do you think we will get it too...... Eventually? What do you guys have to say?
Btw: I am still on Vacation for another few days... When I get back I am going to recruit some graphic artists or whatever on xda to see if they can photoshop a quick green wave, or some other color that you guys like... Because I suck at graphic designing... It shouldn't be hard for anyone interested, because they can just use the template from the original blue wave.... Hopefully xD
Btw2: did you guys see the continuum softkey topic on the front page a couple days ago? D
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i would think the continuum would follow the fascinate with gb...however given the rather poor sales of the device (by all accounts a commercial flop) verizon/samsung just might not feel like spending the r&d on it...but im hopeful for u guys they would
I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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samuelhadams said:
I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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it would be almost impossible to port the touchwiz leaks (froyo/gb) to eclair continuum...aosp is possible i guess...but idk
just hope for the best id think
samuelhadams said:
I find it unlikely we even get Froyo, yet alone GB. Furthermore, I find it unlikely any developer is going to work on porting GB for the Continuum with the Fascinate leak.
Verizon isn't going to pay Samsung to update this phone. With such low sales, it's more cost-efficient for Verizon to forget about us than it is to release updates. Business is business.
Obviously I could be wrong.
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Pretty much this. It's not going to happen. I've given up on ever getting an update. As soon as my job picks up (FINALLY) I'm selling it and getting a charge or x2 or something.
No expert here..but willing to venture
Did the update, it worked with out a glitch.. was able to root using superoneclick from xda..worked if I did not allow it to install busybox, when I did for somereason my phone wouldnt charge? Which btw adding busybox never popped up before when using superoneclick to root other androids...so far so good.. so far the changes are minimal.....a few extra settings such as font...but nice to have all the same..oh netflix works from the link provided with the leaked instructions...could be a tad scary to flash using ogdin..but it works.
Wait you updated you fascinate with this or your continuum?
I was actually just going to ask something too. If the big problem with modding is the ticker and everything else with the fascinate is essentially the same...can't I just update with this and noir have the ticker work or will the absence of ticker support just kill the phone?
I have tried before to install fascinate odin files on our phone... Didn't work xP The graphic drivers are different, so you can't see anything xP
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I figured it would be a no... could we not just c/p the modules for the drivers and over write the ones for the fascinate? Sorry for asking a lotof questions I'm just horrid at programming so I can't exactly just go try it... Though I want to learn if theres any chance we could get this running from the fascinate build. Anyone know how hard that would be? Or is that even possible?
TraMaI said:
I figured it would be a no... could we not just c/p the modules for the drivers and over write the ones for the fascinate? Sorry for asking a lotof questions I'm just horrid at programming so I can't exactly just go try it... Though I want to learn if theres any chance we could get this running from the fascinate build. Anyone know how hard that would be? Or is that even possible?
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They aren't compatible. The drivers we have are for kernel 2.6.29, and the Froyo kernel is 2.6.32.9 (the .9 doesn't really matter to much) and Gingerbread is 2.6.35.x Somewhere betwee 6.29 and 6.32, there was a huge change to the kernel source, and I'm guessing any drivers built for the Eclair kernel we have are not going to work well on Froyo. The Fascinate Froyo source works to build a kernel, but the initramfs sucks, and it isn't something that is easy to troubleshoot really, and I don't have time right now to do so.
Thanks ImNuts, really. I have until about my birthday, July 1st, until I start reteaching myself programming and building it myself. Least I can do is try lol.
TraMaI said:
Thanks ImNuts, really. I have until about my birthday, July 1st, until I start reteaching myself programming and building it myself. Least I can do is try lol.
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If you can get the kernel working, you should at least be able to get most of the system to Froyo, based on the Fascinate releases. The ticker would be an absolute no-go IMO, but you should be able to get the soft-key button images on there.
At this point I don't even care about the ticker. It doesn't work for 90% of what I want to use it for anyways. I would rather just have a phone capable of Froyo use haha.

Got this from Sprint today on their forums

got this from a "sprint rep" on their forums
TiNy-2nz -
I apologize for the frustrations associated with the current issues with the GB release... Please know that we are aware of many of the issues people are experiencing and are working with HTC to resolve them. Although I don't have a time frame now, they will be sending out a patch to resolve issues associated with your device.
SOOO take it for what its worth and maybe there is a hair of hope .....
TInY
hope this is true.
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I had a prompt to download an update today. I skipped cuz I'm still holding out for root on this update that I'm on. I'm not actually having issues other than I can't root...
sent from my 2.3.3 unrooted piece o ****....
I was also prompted for an update today, after just being prompted for the GB update the other day. I was hoping maybe they were being true to their word and unlocking the bootloader.
It was a rather lengthy update process with two reboots involved.
tiny2nz said:
got this from a "sprint rep" on their forums
TiNy-2nz -
I apologize for the frustrations associated with the current issues with the GB release... Please know that we are aware of many of the issues people are experiencing and are working with HTC to resolve them. Although I don't have a time frame now, they will be sending out a patch to resolve issues associated with your device.
SOOO take it for what its worth and maybe there is a hair of hope .....
TInY
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hope this is true.
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Not to sound like a douche, but I think it's pretty obvious that Sprint & HTC plan on releasing an update that would fix the problems presented with the GB update.
There was the 4.22 update,GB
Then the 4.24 update,GB fix,
Are you guys saying there is a 3rd update being pushed?
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I'm wondering the same thing...I've already had two updates. I took both of them because I like my evolution stock, only reason I ever rooted my hero is because Sence made it sluggish.
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at this point in time....i am not confident that we will have any sort of solution in the near future, we will simply have to deal with this horrible android version of gingershitbread, i never tought id hate the awsomeness that is an EVO , but currently...i kind of do, clearing user data, resetting,done it all, it still sucks arse and glitches half the dam time,its horrible, if id have known i would have stayed with stock 2.2 (not because of root but because it actually friggin functioned better)
I waited a couple weeks and did the rooted stock rom, 4.24
Have had no issues after a full week of use.
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the more i think about it you think he said that just to shut me up and so the sprint forums dont get filled up with posts about it ??? I dunno; like the corp store told me; "as long as you can make and recieve calls there is nothing wrong with your handset"
IT suxx to be stock its like having a maseratti that only goes 55MPH

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