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Looking at the Specs for the new Nexus S, there is nothing revolutionary. Seems like basically the Vibrant just renamed. Minor differences like FFC, and obvoiusly the Google experience with Gingerbread. Yet, hardware wise, the Nexus S looks like to be the same as the current Galaxy S lineup. Can you point out major differences in hardware?
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http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
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Hey, Senior member, do you think this should be posted in the development section.
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OHHHH woops, I totally didn't mean to post this here, Sorry.
I already notified the mods to move it, that's what I get for not paying attention while typing.
there are actually a few hardware differences that may cause some minor issues with porting. location of micro usb port and headphone jack. might also have a different gps chip in it and then the inand only issue. it will be monumentally easier to port it to our devices than cm6 made for htc devices because processor and gpu wise they are identical.
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You mean like in l33t? Don't reply, you'll spoil it
kind of same but does have some differences
major selling point for me is 2.3, google, ext4, and more developers but yea that's all software.
But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
My gripe ...bluetooth 3.0 got down graded to 2.1, external micro SD got removed, video codecs
I understand the codecs but i dont see the need to remove and downgrade hardware
I like its being sold threw local bestbuy because Ill probably end up buying it and if i dont like ill just return it
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You mean like in l33t? Don't reply, you'll spoil it
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Like 31337, actually: elite; later shortened to '1337, but never typed as l33t.
On topic: I was seriously planning on going to Nexus S, but they removed enough to make it unattractive. I'm (probably foolishly) going to give Sammy a chance to go ahead and get 2.3 on the SGS line. The world knows it's not just possible, but simple to do so.
If not, I have faith that XDA will fill that role whilst I search for a new primary phone mfg.
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But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
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what do you mean it has a new antenna? what type of new antenna.
yeah it's diff.
first thing is NFC
bluetooth etc
not to mention the FFC
the Nexus S is thicker too.
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there are actually a few hardware differences that may cause some minor issues with porting. location of micro usb port and headphone jack. might also have a different gps chip in it and then the inand only issue. it will be monumentally easier to port it to our devices than cm6 made for htc devices because processor and gpu wise they are identical.
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If that's true, awesome. But won't the different file formats make it more difficult to port? Isn't the fact that we have RFS the reason why it's so difficult getting AOSP on there in the first place? I'm curious because if it's going to be an easy port to get NS ROMS then there's really no reason for an "upgrade".
I dont believe the nexus s records hd 720p video either...
Nothing on the nexus s wool get me to switch... And if I want a ffc I'd just mod one on....
Vibrant ftmfw
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If that's true, awesome. But won't the different file formats make it more difficult to port? Isn't the fact that we have RFS the reason why it's so difficult getting AOSP on there in the first place? I'm curious because if it's going to be an easy port to get NS ROMS then there's really no reason for an "upgrade".
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Did anyone confirm what filesystem Samsung implemented for Nexus S?
There are a few differences hardware wise:
- No SD expansion slot
- FFC by default
- LED flash by default
- Menu, Home, Back and Search keys are in different order (I do not get it, why all the different phones even from the same manufacturer have to have different key layout )
- There could be different screen used in markets other than US and UK.
- NFC
The only real benefit of NS over its Galaxy S cousins is the carrier independent software releases/updates it seems.
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I dont believe the nexus s records hd 720p video either...
Nothing on the nexus s wool get me to switch... And if I want a ffc I'd just mod one on....
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Reports show it does do 720p video. FFC mod is still a fail in my book as it makes the rear camera pretty crappy. And then only a subset of apps support ffc on the vibrant.
I wont switch to ns, BUT I would choose it over vibrant if I had to buy all over again.
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Reports show it does do 720p video.
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Its capable of 720p but not out of the box... It does not record @ 1280x720
It will be added later im sure by google or a developer here.
They did it with the nexus one
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kind of same but does have some differences
major selling point for me is 2.3, google, ext4, and more developers but yea that's all software.
But also has FFC, NFC, new antenna and possible new GPS chip, anti fingerprint curved glass, no more chrome bezel
My gripe ...bluetooth 3.0 got down graded to 2.1, external micro SD got removed, video codecs
I understand the codecs but i dont see the need to remove and downgrade hardware
I like its being sold threw local bestbuy because Ill probably end up buying it and if i dont like ill just return it
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That's all true, the Nexus S is built for developer in mind. Not for consumer daily usage. My dad said the phone does have new GPS hardware. The screen is basically the same, except slight curve on glass, all current SGS phone can be curved during manufacturing. But Google want that design specifically for Nexus S only.
But this time Nexus S actually do have 16GB memory rather than 13GB for storage. 3GB for programs extra.
This is all I know so far. Will be getting the phone anyway cause its newer hardware.
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The only real benefit of NS over its Galaxy S cousins is the carrier independent software releases/updates it seems.
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"only real benefit"?
This is a _HUGE_ benefit. Everybody on XDA, in every forum, is constantly waiting for the devs to strip out all the manufacturer garbage, and release something close to stock as soon as google announces a new version.
I am crossing my fingers that the Nexus S is close enough to the Vibrant that within a week or two of the nexus hitting the streets we'll have a pulled vibrant-compatible ROM. If that doesn't happen then the hardware is different enough that devs will still be on the same cycle for the vibrant that we're currently on-- held back by Samsung's ability to crap touchwiz all over a year-old OS.
And then I'll get a Nexus S so I can finally be on a reasonable upgrade cycle for a phone of this speed.
The poll is bad because it's too black and white. Can't vote without feeling like I'm lying.
They are similar enough hardware wise that the Nexus S cannot be considered an Upgrade to Galaxy S phones (not just the Vibrant, any of them). Add in the actual bad points (No SD Card Slot, Downgraded Bluetooth functionality, etc.) and that phone becomes a bit of a joke. Maybe the released specs are an inside joke between Samsung and Google, and they're actually different than we think they are...?
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Like 31337, actually: elite; later shortened to '1337, but never typed as l33t.
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Usually only the vowels are replaced with numbers, else the **** becomes unreadable. L33T is readable. 1337 is not. The readability comes from the contrast between the numbers and the letters, as well as the fact that the numbers look similar to the letters. Turning every letter into a number only seems readable to you because you did it, and there are 26 letters - there aren't enough numbers to replace them.
Readable = R34d4bl3
It's called L33TSP34K.
i hope it still has download mode and uses Odin since its pretty much impossible to brick
Its a coin toss really; not a thumbs up or down imho
This is all strictly in my humble opinion based on the fact that I'm a T-Mobile customer, and own a Vibrant. That said, like others here I acknowledge the [subtle(?)] differences between the Galaxy S devices and the Nexus S so I'm onboard with:
NFC
FFC
Camera Flash
Support for T-Mobile's network (for those who care, like me)
Curved Display
The "pure Google experience" and everything that entails
But I don't feel all the new features should be considered 'pros' because they're not features I'm longing for or really desire at the moment:
NFC: Few places in my area support this so I don't see how I'm going to make much use of this initially
Curved Display: I hardly consider this a feature; I don't see/understand how I'm going to benefit. Its not like I'm getting cramps holding my phone.
And as others have voiced, I share the same sentiments that in some ways the Nexus S is a step backwards:
Lacks a microSD slot
Defaults to 480 recording
No HSPA+ (for those it matters to, like me)
Bluetooth downgraded from 3.0 to 2.3 with EDR+
Unfortunately for me, some of these missing feaures are a big deal:
The lack of a microSD slot is nearly a deal breaker.
If the recording is software controlled, why is it nerfed out of the box? Lame. Now we have to rely on some group of devs to figure this out, or wait for Google to release an update to address this issue, if they even consider it an issue.
The lack of HSPA+ is just a disappointment, but at least its a lateral move.
I don't use BT so much these days so I'm not really missing anything, but why not 3.0?
I was hoping for an 'immediate future proof' device. Honestly, I'll have to handle the device to be swayed in either direction. If the lack of Sammy's poorly implemented RFS produces a lag-free experience in general, and there aren't any GPS issues, or really annoying issues in general, that just might be enough for me to jump, but its a tough call right now.
Sources:
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=t-mobile-mytouch-4g&phone=samsung-vibrant-a-galaxy-s-phone
http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
http://www.google.com/nexus/tech-specs.html#!/tech-specs
Multiple: http://www.pcworld.com/search?qt=Nexus+s&s=d
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/mobile...-event-promises-to-show-off-holiday-releases/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...us-4g-details-leak-4g-lte-ice-cream-sandwich/
This would be kinda nice to have a Nexus phone on AT&T. Still only a 5mp camera?
How do you figure not impressive spec wise? the next Nexus will be killer! IMO, the current one wasnt a big step up from the previous. It should have sported dual core. Big mistake with google going w/ Samsung. No external SD card...seriously? That killed the phone INSTANTLY for me. Sorry. I got away from the iphone for that reason (among others)
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How do you figure not impressive spec wise? the next Nexus will be killer! IMO, the current one wasnt a big step up from the previous. It should have sported dual core. Big mistake with google going w/ Samsung. No external SD card...seriously? That killed the phone INSTANTLY for me. Sorry. I got away from the iphone for that reason (among others)
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I was referring more the the 5mp camera than anything. Somehow i missed the CPU specs and assumed it was only a single core 1ghz or so... I retract my previous statement... This should be a really nice toy, I just hope it actually comes to AT&T
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How do you figure not impressive spec wise? the next Nexus will be killer! IMO, the current one wasnt a big step up from the previous. It should have sported dual core. Big mistake with google going w/ Samsung. No external SD card...seriously? That killed the phone INSTANTLY for me. Sorry. I got away from the iphone for that reason (among others)
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The lack of external SD immediately killed the Nexus S for me too...
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5mp is good if the sensor is big enough
i dont care if the camera got 99MP but the pictures turns out looking like cr4p
but yea i'll probably ditch the atrix for the nexus if its on att
specs don't seem to be that much better than the atrix, which I guess is good for us if we want to get ICS. Still a beast of a phone.
With ICS they removed physical keys like in honeycomb, does this mean that if the atrix gets ICS that we'll have the keys on the screen as well as our physical keys(reducing screen real estate)?
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specs don't seem to be that much better than the atrix, which I guess is good for us if we want to get ICS. Still a beast of a phone.
With ICS they removed physical keys like in honeycomb, does this mean that if the atrix gets ICS that we'll have the keys on the screen as well as our physical keys(reducing screen real estate)?
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Doubtful about the onscreen keys - it would be re-coded for the Atrix IF we ever get ICS... thats a huge IF..
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/mobile...-event-promises-to-show-off-holiday-releases/
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...us-4g-details-leak-4g-lte-ice-cream-sandwich/
This would be kinda nice to have a Nexus phone on AT&T. Still only a 5mp camera?
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You do realize that the MP rating on the camera has next to NOTHING to do with the image quality?? You also realize the iPhone 4's 5MP shooter is still second to none in the phone world dont you??
The description says "advanced sensor" which probably eludes to what the iPhone 4 uses, a backside illuminates sensor.
Read up......
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Doubtful about the onscreen keys - it would be re-coded for the Atrix IF we ever get ICS... thats a huge IF..
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Well by then you'd hope that the bootloader would be unlocked. According to what they've been saying it should be unlocked after the gingerbread update, including maintenance upgrades, meaning that we'd hopefully be able to get it through the devs. Don't know if they're going to be able to remove the onscreen keys though.
Guys I need your help. I'm not sure what I should do but the galaxy nexus looks really good to me. Now I know the Galaxy s 2 that we have is pure BEAST, in fact as far as the internal go it's better than the galaxy nexus. But i do like the 720p screen on the nexus, the no capacitive buttons and the bigger screen and of course Ice Cream Sandwich bare naked. So should I get the nexus or should I wait for ICS on the S2 and get the s3 later?
Wait for those A15 cores.
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The 720p screen is Pentile. While it has a lesser effect at higher pixel densities (I have seen the Galaxy Note and it's way better than my friend's SGS1), it's still noticeable. Like the guy above said, wait for the A15-equipped phones.
I would love to buy a pure Google phone but they always seem to be six months behind Samsung's Touchwiz devices. It seems that in order to stay bleeding edge you have to make do with Touchwiz. The Galaxy Nexus isn't of BAD spec; but the pentile screen tech and camera and lack of expandable memory makes it a no-go for me. The Galaxy S3 will completely destroy it. I just hope for a more solid construction that doesn't scuff and scratch so easily and that Touchwiz is redesigned to be more sexy than it currently is. I want Samsung to move away from their current garish design ethos and make something a bit more smart.
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I would love to buy a pure Google phone but they always seem to be six months behind Samsung's Touchwiz devices. It seems that in order to stay bleeding edge you have to make do with Touchwiz. The Galaxy Nexus isn't of BAD spec; but the pentile screen tech and camera and lack of expandable memory makes it a no-go for me. The Galaxy S3 will completely destroy it. I just hope for a more solid construction that doesn't scuff and scratch so easily and that Touchwiz is redesigned to be more sexy than it currently is. I want Samsung to move away from their current garish design ethos and make something a bit more smart.
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What I'll like to see from SGS3:
Non-Pentile 720P SuperAMOLED
Camera with 1080p 60fps recording
Dual or quad core A15
Fully open source. That includes driver so that Team Hacksung can work their magic.
I just sold my GS2 and my Nexus is on its way. I did my research, I know that the GS2 has slightly better internals, but the Nexus phones were never about having bleeding edge hardware. The Nexus phones are about bleeding edge software... and when it comes down to it, you can have all the hardware in the world, but stay stuck with crappy software.
The only thing, IMO, that keeps the S2 going is Cyanogenmod. I have immense respect for their work, but when the developers have to hack around closed-source, ****ty code from Samsung, things mostly work. Emphasis on mostly. I'm sick and tired of being constrained by Samsung's unwillingness to cater to the Android dev community, and I decided to break free from their chains.
Is the Galaxy S2's GPU slightly better? Yes. Is the S2's camera slightly better? Yes. Does the S2 have a SD Card slot? Yes. But the GPU in the Nexus is better than the GPU in the iPhone 4, and that thing is super smooth & capable. The camera in the Nexus does what its supposed to - take good quality photos for Facebook, G+ etc. I've always had SD cards in my phones, and have never used them.
Go look at the Nexus's development forum... its like a beehive in there, and the honey looks crazy sweet
So yes, the S3 will probably destroy the Nexus in terms of hardware... but its simply not what counts - look at all the N1 users who are only upgrading now, because only now their phone feels like it needs upgrading. Software is where its at.
ppl should get a nexus and compare. I got both at the moment.
Hands down a better experience.
like soulcro said, the development there is amazing!!
doubt me, check these - all this over 2 weeks.
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s18/s...12690192d279/402eb97e626011c2b2a8d828ab90144c
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s18/s...24b19efbe36e/8aac1540cbe655c3c4199885ea92b509
http://www.evernote.com/shard/s18/s...470f65bbda91/b9945d9911d7c3934950bbd34776d1d4
ALL OPEN SOURCE! WINZIP KANG WARRIORS GETS SHUT DOWN IN < 8 HOURS
Does the Galaxy Nexus have a MicroSD card slot? No
'nuff said.
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Gs2 has muuuch better GPU not only slightly, try 1080p on Nexus...
Nexus has no MicroSD slot, which means constantly moving files from ur phone to pc to free up space ( unless you dont make oics and videos at all, or dont watch any movies on it)
On Nexus u cant even watch 720p on youtube it's lagging like hell!!!! (Talking about flash from any browser)
Cant transfer bluetooth files TO Nexus! The only way is to ZIP them and then send them ( not rly convenient. Has no problems from Nexus to any device
The camera...oh god, pics not bad with lots of light, but indoors in low light, noisy as hell!!! Video recording is not even close to the quality of GS2!!!
Nexus doesnt have DLNA app u have to download thirdparty one, the best is Skifta,but on ICS it drains the battery like hell!
Nexus doesnt have wifi direct, it's just API for developers
Battery is the same, but Nexus manages the processes better. No wakelock etc. no tweaks are needed to get good battery life )
Nexus has pathetic speaker!!! Almost unusable on loudspeaker unless it's really quiet around you!
Nexus is sooo much more expensive than GS2!
a good point is the Screen of Nexus it's really good!! Cant even tell it's pentile. it is so much easier to read anything with HD screen
Those observation are from about 1 month testing
I think I have said enough to make ones mind into bying any of the two hope it helps
Guess which One I'm gonna keep, but still everyone has different needs
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I ran out of memory on both my internal and external card (8gb) so had to buy a 32gb which is now half full. Nexus is useless to me.
Anyway, this question is a bit like asking on a BMW forum whether I should buy a Mercedes.
Why not go ask on the Nexus forum??
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I think i would be better to wait for the sgs3...
Samsung made a really great job with the original sgs and the sgs2...
sxi200 said:
I ran out of memory on both my internal and external card (8gb) so had to buy a 32gb which is now half full. Nexus is useless to me.
Anyway, this question is a bit like asking on a BMW forum whether I should buy a Mercedes.
Why not go ask on the Nexus forum??
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It helps to judge it properly by having both devices. Don't think I will ever buy a non-nexus again.
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It helps to judge it properly by having both devices. Don't think I will ever buy a non-nexus again.
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True. But where do I fit the more than 20gb of data I already have on my S2.
Like I said, its useless to me. A bit like buying a fantastic 2 seater car for a family of 5. Doesn't serve the buyers purpose.
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not worth it
i was at the same situation and stay'd with my SGS2.
the Gnex not offering real upgrade over the SGS2
* CPU - the TI OMAP 4460 CPU is good for lower Power consumption but is no match for the sammy's 4120.
* GPU - the Gnex GPU is SGX540 clocked at 400mhz while the SGS2 GPU is the MALI-400
an old GPU but much stronger then the SGX540\400mhz.
* Screen - the Gnex 720p screen is real blessing but the Pentile matrix ruin's it
i dont know if anyone saw it before but it looks a bit blurry compare to the SGS2
"SAP" screen.
* Software - its very important to keep the phone updated but to be honest
no one actually stay's with the original rom for long.
with ICS our SGS2 will be even faster then the Gnex in every parameter.
so software OTA is irrelevant.
* Camera - the SGS2 camera is amazing 28mm 2.4 that takes really great shots
no Camera-phone is nighttime capable (yet!)
stay with the SGS2 and get the SGS3 when it comes out.
My only reasons to get Nexus is that, it's LED Notification (Although overcome by BLN in S2) and of course, Nexus's AMOLED HD (Although I've yet to get it hands on, so, I'm not sure how good it is).
Lastly, my fear is that, Custom ROMs & Kernels developers would shift to other devices within my two years of contract with my carrier for S2 although Nexus is my dream.
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There was no attitude in that message But it was already stated couple of posts ago that b19 fixes the wrong alignment of the navbar buttons.
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fair point, different purpose.
I stream practically all my media so SD card is a mute point for me.
Anyways, i am happy with the sentiments. That should fetch me a good price for the gs2 then.
OT: I will never buy a sports car with fitting a family as a requirement.
I played with a GNex a few minutes in-store and I must say CM9 on sgs2 is 3 times faster. Nexus even lags when switching screens slightly and especially when entering appdrawer. Screen is nice, but it's nowhere near Retina-quality is should've been. I'd say it's VERY slightly clearer. Performance on SGS2 is just crazy fast. Not to mention a lot better camera and SD card slot.
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Everyone uses their phone differently. I've never, ever had a use for DLNA/Bluetooth File Transfer/Wifi Direct/MicroSD. The flash is reportedly working fine when you upgrade to 4.0.3. The camera does exactly what its supposed to - pictures for usage by Facebook, etc... I hope you're not taking your wedding pictures with your S2
The speaker problem is easily fixed with Volume+, although I've seen users saying the stock volume works for them.
Regarding software - yes, developers can and will port AOSP ICS to the S2. But I've been using Cyanogenmod (only worthwhile AOSP in my experience) on my previous three phones - HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy, and Samsung Galaxy S2. In all cases, the CM developers had to work around propriety code/drivers, and the end user always had to sacrifice one or more features in order to get AOSP on his device. On the Nexus line of phones, everything is wide open - meaning developers don't have to jump through hoops to get things working.
No more "petition Samsung to release XYZ!!!", no more "XYZ doesn't work because we don't have the source for XYZ", etc etc. I used to think owning a Nexus wasn't worth it due to the developers, but its simply not the case.
And I think we can agree the TouchWiz, or any manufacturer skin for that matter, just kinda sucks.
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* CPU - the TI OMAP 4460 CPU is good for lower Power consumption but is no match for the sammy's 4120.
* GPU - the Gnex GPU is SGX540 clocked at 400mhz while the SGS2 GPU is the MALI-400
an old GPU but much stronger then the SGX540\400mhz.
* Screen - the Gnex 720p screen is real blessing but the Pentile matrix ruin's it
i dont know if anyone saw it before but it looks a bit blurry compare to the SGS2
"SAP" screen.
* Software - its very important to keep the phone updated but to be honest
no one actually stay's with the original rom for long.
with ICS our SGS2 will be even faster then the Gnex in every parameter.
so software OTA is irrelevant.
* Camera - the SGS2 camera is amazing 28mm 2.4 that takes really great shots
no Camera-phone is nighttime capable (yet!)
stay with the SGS2 and get the SGS3 when it comes out.
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CPU, agreed. However with hardware acceleration in ICS. less load is on CPU, even max 700MHz is fine for a lag free experience.
GPU, agreed. Maybe I don't play enough games, however Modern Combat 3 on the GNEX dispay is amazing
Screen, this is where one would need both phones in comparison, gs2 is not even close on this one even though the gnex has pentile.
Software, with pure AOSP. Sort of, not with closed source though. It took Jkay awhile to get to where its at, the same thing happens on the nexus in 2 days. Check my previous posts with links to screenshots.
with how samsung is making it like gingerbread, not so much.
Camera, agreed. Not for low light conditions, iphones are better yet. The gs2 has better camera, however not highly noticeable so far between the two for me.
Hmm, it looks like I don't need the gs2 anymore, any buyers?
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I played with a GNex a few minutes in-store and I must say CM9 on sgs2 is 3 times faster. Nexus even lags when switching screens slightly and especially when entering appdrawer. Screen is nice, but it's nowhere near Retina-quality is should've been. I'd say it's VERY slightly clearer. Performance on SGS2 is just crazy fast. Not to mention a lot better camera and SD card slot.
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Is that a proper google phone or a carrier version?
Like CM9 is non stock firmware, put a good rom and kernel with vm tweaks on the gnex, it is silky smooth even at 700MHz.
VERY slighly clearer? I wear glasses and I can tell it's a better screen. put the GNEX on 240DPI and see the diff.
Retina quality is awesome for the small display, but the screen resolution and the resultant ppl, even my gf on the iphone 4s likes the GNEX screen better.
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Regarding software - yes, developers can and will port AOSP ICS to the S2. But I've been using Cyanogenmod (only worthwhile AOSP in my experience) on my previous three phones - HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy, and Samsung Galaxy S2. In all cases, the CM developers had to work around propriety code/drivers, and the end user always had to sacrifice one or more features in order to get AOSP on his device. On the Nexus line of phones, everything is wide open - meaning developers don't have to jump through hoops to get things working.
No more "petition Samsung to release XYZ!!!", no more "XYZ doesn't work because we don't have the source for XYZ", etc etc. I used to think owning a Nexus wasn't worth it due to the developers, but its simply not the case.
And I think we can agree the TouchWiz, or any manufacturer skin for that matter, just kinda sucks.
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Agreed.
I think the main point here may be people defending their purchase, or just being fanboys without actually using the GNEX.
I've paid the same price for both phones due to being a fairly early adopter.
I have no such need to justify purchases and can definitely compare both in my hands to have an objective view.
btw, a sound comparison between the two by plugging them into a stereo system clearly ensures the gnex as the better device. Sorry I checked coz I had been asked to check before.
I came to the GS2 from the RAZR. The siren call of the GNex and it’s big screen is sweet but in the end I couldn’t stand not having a decent camera in it. The pictures I take with my cell camera when I don’t have my regular digital camera will play an important part of recording my kid’s as they grow up. I feel that the GS2 has one of the top 3 cameras in android at this point.
Ask yourself this: if the GNex wasn’t first to market with ICS, would it really have been THAT much of a big thing?
The GS3 should be a world beater with great camera, OS AND HD screen.
I love the device, well the specs I don't have one yet but the things that are stopping me buying it now is
No expansion slot for storage
No rear facing camera
No HDMI output
Maybe you guys can convince me, I love the device's power, the cpu and what not seems really good but the above is ridiculous in this day and age...
If someone has to convince you, then this device is not for you.
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I love the device, well the specs I don't have one yet but the things that are stopping me buying it now is
No expansion slot for storage
No rear facing camera
No HDMI output
Maybe you guys can convince me, I love the device's power, the cpu and what not seems really good but the above is ridiculous in this day and age...
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1. Sort of a pain but OTG almost makes up for it.
2. Personal thing but why would you want to take photos with it anyway. Use your phone or a real camera.
3. Again personal but why?
it s micro usb unlike samsung.
and camera on samsung are fixed focus...
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The first reply is very true.
Well OP, if you don't have a 7inch device yet, get it. It's an awesome form factor at least for many of us, it just feels good in the hands and gameplay is awesome as well. Memory solved by usb OTG. Front cam is enough for a tablet IMO, phone for taking pictures.
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jarayn said:
1. Sort of a pain but OTG almost makes up for it.
2. Personal thing but why would you want to take photos with it anyway. Use your phone or a real camera.
3. Again personal but why?
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1) Good point, but didn't want to root the device, guess i may have to
2) Another good point, did think about this and thought there would be no point of it any way
3) to play games etc on a hd screen, but its no major let down
you forgot reason number 4 to get it .. IT FITS IN MY PURSE..
Not to mention reason number 5 .. Battery life
then number 6 reason to get it.. Most important.. GET IT BECAUSE ERICA HAS ONE..
good luck with your decision . but it looks as thou you made it for yourself
The lack of expandable storage does suck but not having a rear camera really isnt a big issue. Not too many people will be taking pictures with a tablet. To me, the only way this device could have been better would be to offer expandable memory and maybe a removable battery.
I sold my ipad 2 to get this tablet, and I dont regret it. Seriously, it is alright to only have a front camera as the main use would be for things like skype. Specs are really good and the device really smooth. It got a gps chip too, you can locate yourself everywhere without wifi! Really love this tablet!
Btw, with CM10, you can plug a usb key or whatever you want
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I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
Sensamic said:
I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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The new nexus 2 still be having sd card slot.
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There is no SD card slot in the sgs3??
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w1nter456 said:
1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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Yeah, I know. Not great obviously, but storage alone is not enough if you lack the other three I mentioned, like more tweaks, better roms and such.
Oh, I forgot another little reason:
- There is no in line spell checker on Samsungs touchwiz rom. In stock Android a red line appears before any misspelled word, but Samsung doesn't have this. The reason? Who knows... but I really need that feature because I type a lot on the phone.
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The phone should be 32gb at least. If not I won't buy it until it had 32gb.
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Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
jinosong said:
Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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Next year nexus, android 5.0. Sweet
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w1nter456 said:
1 more thing u miss, a 8gb and non-sd card slot.
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This was just a prototype . Official woukd have minimum 16 gb
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jinosong said:
Sorry, but the Nexus will never be a high-end phone. It's supposed to be somewhat affordable. Although considered a good value and pure Android, it won't possess the higher-end specs like the Galaxy S or HTC One series will. Which Nexus are you going to get? There are like 6 coming out next year. LG maybe?
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I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
Sensamic said:
I like my sgs3 but I'm thinking of maybe changing to the new nexus.
The basic reasons are:
- IPS LCD display (if it has one like the rumors show). Amoled is clearly a second class display nowadays. Before it was good, but now... today I compared it to the LCD IPS of the iPhone 4S and I was impressed with the white backgrounds. On the SGS3 they look terrible on comparison, just terrible. There is also a notice difference in brightness and visibility outdoors.
- This whole problem with Samsung not releasing the info, codes and stuff of the exynoss processor is making it difficult for stock roms to become better. There is actually not that many interesting roms or tweaks available for the SGS3. Most roms are based on Samsung's. The nexus is obviously gonna have some really cool stuff and tweaks.
- Better optimization of software. Project butter on the SGS3 right now is a shame. I'm hoping on the next update they make it better. It's still a beta firmware so let's wait, but I don't trust Samsung that much.
Three basic reasons. Of course, not saying the SGS3 is a bad phone, but I expect better, specially software wise.
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Only thing I like with the nexus, would be the faster updates (yes I do use custom roms).
Another thing I can't really stand seeing users who say that stock android is better bla bla. Have you ever compared stock androids camera (aosp) vs samsungs one? You might dislike the template/colour scheme of touchwiz, but from a functionality point of view, samsungs software is way ahead of stock android. (even aokp, cm etc etc) eg, camera, task manager on home long press, clock app, better messaging app, contacts app etc, direct call, smart alert, smart stay (better than not having the option)
Sensamic said:
I've come to realize more powerful hardware is not essential. What use is there for quad core if project butter is half baked and developers cannot use all its horsepower because of lack of documentation from Samsung? It's way better to have dual core optimised, just like the nexus will do be it dual or quad core. Software must be optimised or quad core means nothing.
I would buy the one with LCD IPS display clearly. I think it's the best display right now, very bright and whites look great.
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Butter shouldn't be the goal of the phone. Functionality clearly trumps it. For example, playing a complex game or watching a high resolution movie is where you'll see high-end hardware really shine. As for IPS, I foresee Samsung shedding that very soon in future models.
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I can't really stand would be users who say that stock android is better bla bla.
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I agree that some of Samsung's modifications are really useful. I used an S3 then tried a Nexus for the first time and I couldn't stand the simplified options menu of the device.
Not interested in Nexus devices. Apart from faster software updates, I still can't see any better features Nexus can offer to consumers compare to OEM devices.
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Yes my next phone would be a Nexus... I like the default android launcher and fast update on Android OS. Less stress cause by waiting and TouchWiz bugs.
I would sacrifice having no SD card slot if that's the case. I just want the next nexus to have a quad core and 2GB of RAM and a 32GB of storage would be fine with me.
if the price is right, i'll get the LG nexus phone to replace my S3
i'm always on AOSP rom. no point S3 when there's always something not working on stock android.
No sdcard slot = no go!
If it had a sdcard slot, I'd definitely go for it. It seems to solve all the problems of SGS3.
When the new Lumia 920 is there, i'll go for it.\
Im getting tired of android, the flashing, the custom ROMS.
None of it is without lagg, so i'm gonna try Windows Phone 8
No. The Nexus series of phones will never have a microSD slot 'cause Google do not think they're needed (along with file managers - with the Android trait of leaving leftover **** on the SD when uninstalling applications, yeah right). Despite already nearly filling up both my 16GB internal + 32GB microSD card, I'd - grudgingly - live with the loss of a microSD card slot but rumours say that the memory of the new LG Nexus is either 8GB/16GB in order to push Google's **** cloud services. Not only do I feel it's more futuristic that I can carry huge amounts of files on a tiny microSD card without having to be tied to the Internet, Google Music doesn't officially work this side of the pond and even if it did I don't have the data allowance to always be streaming - and, in my case, I don't get mobile phone signal for a couple hours a day...
LG have been told to make the next Nexus. Luckily, I never bought the useless doorstop known as the Optimus 2X, but ask around and owners will generally tell you it sucks thanks to its feature of randomly rebooting throughout your day, on the stock firmware doing nothing. LG Canada also said no to ICS for the phone - we're talking about the first Android dual-core phone and LG's flagship. Thankfully, Google will be operating the update side of things so this won't be an issue with the Nexus, but I'll be damned if I ever buy an LG phone (4x has a locked bootloader, for example. Again not a problem on the Nexus, but another reason why I'll never consider LG).
I want to (well, try to) punch a wall when I say this, but odds are I'll be getting a Sony phone when they release a phone with specs worthy of the month of the year they're announcing it in. (In short, I want a quad-core, Sony, not excitement over the fact that the T is - finally - your first dual-core) I'll never forgive them for the Vita but with phones, they seem to have it right so no point in cutting my nose off in order to spite my face. Everybody knows of Code Aurora, but Sony do release binaries for those things they don't/can't open the source of to make it easier for those who want to run AOSP-based ROMs, unlocking the bootloader can be done through a website of theirs (and there's no bollocks like S-ON to deal with), Entropy512 says they release the code of some of their own things that they don't need to - nothing groundbreaking but very helpful to AOSP ROM maintainers etc. and they've posted on XDA in order to promote their open-source software to help developers (there's a post from a Sony Ericsson employee somewhere on XDA talking about their program that wraps apktool and others to for a better decompiling experience... god I sound like a shill).
I've also seen them contribute fixes to upstream software. Take D-Bus. On a GNU/Linux desktop it's an open-source program used mainly by the KDE & GNOME desktops (and by a ton of freedesktop.org programs like the upower daemon) as a way for programs to communicate with each other. (Sorry for the awful attempt at an explanation) On Android it's there too, probably because BlueZ, which provides the Bluetooth stack, needs it. Applications can't use it on Android but if dbus-daemon is happy then BlueZ is too. On the DBus mailing list, I would see posts by Sony Ericsson employees working on Android trying to find out why X operation was slow and, in some cases, providing fixes themselves. This is a great approach as it means not only DBus-using Linux desktops get a more stable piece of software because Sony chose to submit directly to the people who wrote the the program, it also means that other Android phones that run the version of dbus-daemon with Sony's fixes also benefit. JBQ of Google also put the Arc S device tree into AOSP - the first non-Nexus phone - because (if I'm remembering right) Sony were always friendly to AOSP and were contributing.
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waiting s4
As a previous owner of the original sgs1 and currently have the nexus s I recently had to decide on my new smartphone. I discounted the nexus pretty quickly because, frankly I found the nexus s boring. The nexus line will always be good but never great. Lack of storage and no sd card is a killer. The only - admittedly considerable - thing going for the nexus range is early access to latest firmware. That's it. The galaxy s range are sexy and leading edge. That's where each new model is aimed and that's what Samsung achieve
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