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ok guy's and gal's ,just want some good feedback on this phone.i used to have the g1 when it first came out ,had it for a while .up till about 6 mth's ago .then i sold it got a touch pro 2 .i love android but after the stuff with google pulled on Cyan .wasn't sure were all this was going.but know been looking to get back in .with the power and memory look's like partitioning the memory card will be no more .i know you can have root on this one to and it just came out ! so let me know on this phone what ya think.i read about battery life thread but that seem's to be the first place everyone go's to.i want to now how you like it for everyday use and if you are rooted it or not .thank' s for the imput.
Short answer...love it....can't think of a better device...wish the gps/compass was fixed sooner rather than later though...
I did root it as soon as I read the instructions via adb...glad to have wireless tether running and glad I don't have to worry about partitioning the sd card or having swap etc..
I think we all complain about some of the things on the phone but I mean what phone doesn't have its share of complaints? I think the general consensus is that most people love it =)
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very good to here !ya what phone don't have complaint's lol well keep it coming thank's everone.
I'm rooted and absolutely love this phone.. I have no GPS problems and get locks fast... the screen is beautiful and amazes people everytime they see it. The camera is pretty good for me as its just a phone camera but takes awesome shots. The night mode kinda makes up for the lack of camera flash but once again no biggie. The compass is wack but whatever I don't use it. ..
The 720 p recording is awesome and takes great videos I was impressed.
The games are insane on this thing. The 3d graphics on this super amoled screen is just amazing, I actually play games now one my phone.. the screen is super responsive and the Multitouch is flawless vs the nexus one (came from it)..
All in all I love this. Oh I also get no slow downs either... and the memory is awesome no need for apps2sd or ever check my memory... fantastic phone way better than my old n1 IMO...
Best phone I've ever used/owned.
thank's everyone i think i'm sold.going to have to get one !well let's keep this thread going for all !
I absolutely love mine. Had it since launch. i used my gps for the first time two days ago and it worked fine for the most part. Im also unrooted at the moment. I also came from a g1 so from me to you, it's a good choice to go with.
Loving mine so far. My GPS takes a bit to lock on sometimes but its usually only after google maps crashes and locks up the phone. A manual restart usually solves it and I get a quick lock.
Screen is beautiful, responsive and just the right size. The phone is light and thin which I like and battery life has been getting better for me. With my latest cycle, light use mind you, i'm at almost 23 hours since charge and im at 58% battery left using Juice Defender.
This phone gets my recommendation.
If you want to use Layar, Google Sky Map, Wikitude, or any other Augmented Reality app, prepare to be disappointed. The compass problem really sodomizes all those apps' ability to know which way you're facing. It was so bad I returned mine before my 14 day remorse period was up. If they manage to fix it in software, I might get a new one, but it remains to be seen whether their fix will be adequate.
It took a lot to get the G1 out of my hands but this phone is just so much better in terms of performance, stability and usability. It does take a day or so to get used to the different feel and button placement but other than that - I would say go for it!
Pros:
CPU/GPU
Camera
Performance speed
16gb on board and still room for a SD card
screen
weight
thinness
Android
Cons:
GPS/Compass (lets hope they fix it)
No flash on camera
Cheap build quality (volume button is flimsy)
plastic feel kinda cheap
old iphone like design
Touchwiz
Samsungs future support is questionable.
Overall its a great phone with great hardware especially if you are on Tmobile. If you can look past the cheap design and the GPS issues that might be fixed in the future then you will enjoy the phone. If you want a higher quality feeling phone and solid support I would hold for a HTC phone.
I bought the phone and generally happy with it I just hope all the kinks are worked out.
thank's again everyone ,hope this will help others if they are wondering about it to !
Im thinking about getting the A2 but the OG seems good enough for now. If i get the A2 I would lose, Finger print scanner, dual band WIFI (5ghz),dual L.E.D flash, 48gb (w/ 32gb sd card), 1930mah battery, and tricolor notification light. The only gains i see with the A2 is 4.3" screen,1080p recording (only 24fps) and 8mp camera. Is that enough to make the switch? what do you guys think?
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Im thinking about getting the A2 but the OG seems good enough for now. If i get the A2 I would lose, Finger print scanner, dual band WIFI (5ghz),dual L.E.D flash, 48gb (w/ 32gb sd card), 1930mah battery, and tricolor notification light. The only gains i see with the A2 is 4.3" screen,1080p recording (only 24fps) and 8mp camera. Is that enough to make the switch? what do you guys think?
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Get the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II. It's better than both the A2 and A1 in every way. Plus it has waaaaay better ROMs.
Truthfully from having just got the A2 I really barely notice anything missing at all and the UI is so much smoother even without a custom rom and kernel. As for the SGSII people tend to forget the AMOLED Screens have burn in as well as the fact that you have to spend extra money to get the HDMI Cable well you do with the A2 unless you already have a micro HDMI cord which I did. Dual L.E.D Flash is whatever thats personal preference. Finger Print Scanner I Never Used, never noticed wifi and if your using that much memory you should stick with a Real Laptop. Either way the A2's build quality feels a lot sturdier than the original and don't get me wrong the SGSII is a good device just not That good as far as I am concerned.
It just depend on if you want it or not... I never owned a atrix so I wouldn't know but the atrix 2 is a great phone. I chose it over the gs2 because samsung has yet to make a phone that GPS works out the box. Motorola makes great working phones hardware wise and for someone like myself who was a flashaholic I am finding myself just wanting a phone that works....lol... the atrix 2 so far has.... but if the og is good for you, then wait to see what google says!
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I use fingerprint scanner exclusively. It's amazingly convenient for me and usually I swipe as I am taking it out of my pocket and by the time I have it up to my face it's unlocked and ready to use. Just for that alone it would not be worth it for me to go to A2. I almost feel like Motorola helped me develop this dependency and the scanner and now they are abandoning me... It'll be tough to go back to pattern locks and all those that require me to look at the screen to unlock.
End of the day A2's got almost the same hardware. I don't see it as much of an improvement. I am personally holding on the the Atrix and waiting for a better phone to come along next year.
If I were forced to upgrade, I would go to GSII just for the developer support. I can't find a single reason to go to A2.
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It just depend on if you want it or not... I never owned a atrix so I wouldn't know but the atrix 2 is a great phone. I chose it over the gs2 because samsung has yet to make a phone that GPS works out the box. Motorola makes great working phones hardware wise and for someone like myself who was a flashaholic I am finding myself just wanting a phone that works....lol... the atrix 2 so far has.... but if the og is good for you, then wait to see what google says!
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I am not the biggest samsung fan, but I had no problems with the sgs2 gps.
Captivate is a different story though.
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Im thinking about getting the A2 but the OG seems good enough for now. If i get the A2 I would lose, Finger print scanner, dual band WIFI (5ghz),dual L.E.D flash, 48gb (w/ 32gb sd card), 1930mah battery, and tricolor notification light. The only gains i see with the A2 is 4.3" screen,1080p recording (only 24fps) and 8mp camera. Is that enough to make the switch? what do you guys think?
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It records video at 29fps on 1080p and 29fps on 720p just so you know.
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I use fingerprint scanner exclusively. It's amazingly convenient for me and usually I swipe as I am taking it out of my pocket and by the time I have it up to my face it's unlocked and ready to use. Just for that alone it would not be worth it for me to go to A2. I almost feel like Motorola helped me develop this dependency and the scanner and now they are abandoning me... It'll be tough to go back to pattern locks and all those that require me to look at the screen to unlock.
End of the day A2's got almost the same hardware. I don't see it as much of an improvement. I am personally holding on the the Atrix and waiting for a better phone to come along next year.
If I were forced to upgrade, I would go to GSII just for the developer support. I can't find a single reason to go to A2.
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My thoughts exactly...
Also I NEED the fingerprint scanner since I have control of several cars from within my Atrix 4G thatnks to Tramigo M1. It would be VERY BAD to have my phone stolen or lost with that application in there.
Fingerprint scanner and Lapdock accesory alone, make me stay put with the Atrix 4G..
Also, I will try my best to stay away of any AMOLED based phone, period.
Cheers!
Rayan
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These are do or die for me.
Information posted here: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_10_16gb&feature=microsite seens to indicate no; which makes me a sad panda.
Being a Nexus device it has no sd card slot, which means 32gb is a must for most people.
Don't forget you can use usb sticks with this too. So having no sd card slot isn't a deal breaker.
Don't know about keyboards yet. You can easily buy a standard bluetooth keyboard if you can't live without one.
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Being a Nexus device it has no sd card slot, which means 32gb is a must for most people.
Don't forget you can use usb sticks with this too. So having no sd card slot isn't a deal breaker.
Don't know about keyboards yet. You can easily buy a standard bluetooth keyboard if you can't live without one.
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I really dislike having a USB stick out the side from a mobile device. I dislike bluetooth keyboards almost as much.
Maybe I'll just wait for the next Asus.
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I really dislike having a USB stick out the side from a mobile device. I dislike bluetooth keyboards almost as much.
Maybe I'll just wait for the next Asus.
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then yeah maybe not the best device to buy....
You could buy one of these mini USB sticks and break the plastic part. Maybe it fits in the USB slot and you only see some millimeters of it.
Could be a solution. I already know some USB sticks that have 16GB and stick only 5mm out of the slot.
Someone should make an NFC device that is a little box (around the size of a credit card, and 1/4" inch thick) and only has SD and USB storage options.
Then again it looks like someone has already thought of making one: http://www.google.com/patents/US20060069814
Now ... has someone already MADE one?
Why is it that manufacturers are starting this trend of leaving SD cards out? I'd expect it out of a cut rate piece of hardware, but not when they are charging a premium price. The fact that this on a Nexus (which is supposed to have all the bells and whistles. I am really disappointed. Granted it's a Samsung build, but someone at Google needs to wake up if the intend to hang the Nexus moniker on it.
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Why is it that manufacturers are starting this trend of leaving SD cards out? I'd expect it out of a cut rate piece of hardware, but not when they are charging a premium price. The fact that this on a Nexus (which is supposed to have all the bells and whistles. I am really disappointed. Granted it's a Samsung build, but someone at Google needs to wake up if the intend to hang the Nexus moniker on it.
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Umm you are getting the phone at cost. Silly to complain.
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Why is it that manufacturers are starting this trend of leaving SD cards out? I'd expect it out of a cut rate piece of hardware, but not when they are charging a premium price. The fact that this on a Nexus (which is supposed to have all the bells and whistles. I am really disappointed. Granted it's a Samsung build, but someone at Google needs to wake up if the intend to hang the Nexus moniker on it.
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Probably a little cheaper and with the new fascination with everything being thin as paper, leaving it out allows for more room. I'm sure fitting a 9000 battery in a package this small wasn't a easy task.
At cost? How do you figure? And last I checked we were talking tablets. The point I was driving at was, as an original N1 owner, bought direct from Google, I have come to expect that the Nexus name will only be applied to only the most technically advanced devices. be they phones or tablets. To further that point, *not* including a microSD slot (which is the actual form factor I was referring to, apologies if you thought I meant a fullsize SD card) is taking a step backwards. I semi understood it with the Galaxy 7, as they were competing against the Kindle Fire's price point.
Cost I don't think is an issue. Thinness maybe, but for crying out loud this thing is a 10 in Tablet, not some microthin waferphone. Google/Samsung, you let me down. Going to have to consider the Nexus name as a marketing tool only, and not the absolute best like the N1 was on release.
For the price? I'd rather have an MSD slot than the screen resolution. Guess that's just me...
However, the Nexus 7 I may look into again.. If they did more than slap 32GB in it...
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At cost? How do you figure? And last I checked we were talking tablets. The point I was driving at was, as an original N1 owner, bought direct from Google, I have come to expect that the Nexus name will only be applied to only the most technically advanced devices. be they phones or tablets. To further that point, *not* including a microSD slot (which is the actual form factor I was referring to, apologies if you thought I meant a fullsize SD card) is taking a step backwards. I semi understood it with the Galaxy 7, as they were competing against the Kindle Fire's price point.
Cost I don't think is an issue. Thinness maybe, but for crying out loud this thing is a 10 in Tablet, not some microthin waferphone. Google/Samsung, you let me down. Going to have to consider the Nexus name as a marketing tool only, and not the absolute best like the N1 was on release.
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Looking historically; Nexus has been attached to 'good' but not 'leading edge'. It's never been used on the absolute best. That wouldn't have the mass market appeal that the price tag of 'good' has. I think you misunderstand the purpose of 'Nexus'.
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Looking historically; Nexus has been attached to 'good' but not 'leading edge'. It's never been used on the absolute best. That wouldn't have the mass market appeal that the price tag of 'good' has. I think you misunderstand the purpose of 'Nexus'.
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My problem is that my desire for for easy & cheap interchangeable storage (an SD card) apparently doesn't have the ease of use that is desired in a Nexus device. I can live with that in a phone; but not a tablet. ONE of my NFC devices has to have an SD card.
there is this remedy on the way (If it gets funded).
And until then there is CHEAP ebay products...
Now on the keyboard note, I am also in the same pickle. I have a TF700t, I have had SO MANY DAMN HARDWARE ISSUES! I have exchanged like 7 of the damn tablets! I have an RMA coming in form newegg for one, and it sucks. I love the design and the features, but the lagginess even on JB is absolutely insane on a $500 tablet!
Here's to hoping the next Asus Transformer tablet is a killer, crazy 2560x1600 Super IPS+ with a similar design to the TF700, maybe with some other cool features.
Samzebian said:
there is this remedy on the way (If it gets funded).
And until then there is CHEAP ebay products...
Now on the keyboard note, I am also in the same pickle. I have a TF700t, I have had SO MANY DAMN HARDWARE ISSUES! I have exchanged like 7 of the damn tablets! I have an RMA coming in form newegg for one, and it sucks. I love the design and the features, but the lagginess even on JB is absolutely insane on a $500 tablet!
Here's to hoping the next Asus Transformer tablet is a killer, crazy 2560x1600 Super IPS+ with a similar design to the TF700, maybe with some other cool features.
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Asus has a thing for slow I/O, no idea why but basically every all of their tabs sucks - even the Vivo, which is much more recent. I wouldn't count on their next tab being worth anything. Why not just get a Nexus 4 and a Bluetooth keyboard? There's probably a full-size folding one somewhere.
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Kookas said:
Asus has a thing for slow I/O, no idea why but basically every all of their tabs sucks - even the Vivo, which is much more recent. I wouldn't count on their next tab being worth anything. Why not just get a Nexus 4 and a Bluetooth keyboard? There's probably a full-size folding one somewhere.
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Nexus 4? lol
Idk, I really like the keyboard with a battery, gives me all day+ battery life. I can use the thing probably 3 days with HEAVY usage! Plus a full size USB port and SD card reader, AND a mousepad, PLUS it protects the screen VERY well when closed!! What's not to love about Asus's design?! I love the concept, just the execution on the prime was crap from Asus thanks to poor I/O.:silly:
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Nexus 4? lol
Idk, I really like the keyboard with a battery, gives me all day+ battery life. I can use the thing probably 3 days with HEAVY usage! Plus a full size USB port and SD card reader, AND a mousepad, PLUS it protects the screen VERY well when closed!! What's not to love about Asus's design?! I love the concept, just the execution on the prime was crap from Asus thanks to poor I/O.:silly:
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I had an tf101, it was a shame. It restarted about 5 times a day after the ics update. Sold it now, there were to many lags even after all the updates. Asus's hardware is AMAZING but the software really sucks. It won't start up when docked...
Gonna buy the nexus 10 the day it comes out.
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Hey guys my nexus 4 was recently stolen :crying: and now its time to start looking for a new phone
This is probably the best option i've found so far in my price range but... I have a few questions I'd like to ask to people who actually own the phone, not biased internet reviewers
First of all, I will not ask about benchmarks or specs as we all know they mean nothing if the software is not optimized... but here are a few doubts I have before I buy it
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
Yes - it's a fast phone. A high clock speed and the fact it renders to 720p rather than 1080 means it's very snappy
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
A good screen, not great like flagship devices. Viewing angles are fine IMO - Sony has a bad rep for this but the SP's viewing angles are a vast improvement on their older xperia phones
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
I don't think you should be worried, this is improving with each update, but people have complained about this.
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
Sony have a good support network, but there are some issues they seem unwilling/unable to address with this phone. Wifi is clearly a problem
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
A relatively new device and not especially common IMO, but development is steady, a rom a week maybe. I don't know which are popular, but stripped back ROMS and ones attempting to give the feel and look of flagship Xperia devices dominate. Kernels are all stock based at the moment, but FreeXperia and some independent developers are planning to bring CM10.1 and CM10.2 to the phone. After that I expect things to gather pace - MIUI and AOSP roms should follow on pretty quickly I imagine. There are a decent amount of mods as well
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
The internal storage - around 5gb is available for the user, this is just about adequate, coming from a 2011 device I thought it would be enough, but because you can't move apps to an external SD, it get's used up quickly. I'm not a power user and it doesn't feel like enough. There are ways around it if you're rooted, but you wish Sony would do what Samsung have done and mod their builds to allow this
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
I think it helps if you've got a newish router, but my experience isn't great and this is echoed by many others here and on Sony's support forums. There are ways to improve it, but out of the box performance for some users is unacceptable IMO. However with the tweaks in place I now get reception in parts of my house where none of my other devices (laptop, netbook, old phone) get reception - for me range has always been excellent, but connecting in the first place sometimes took several attempts or needed a phone reboot
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
The camera is average, don't know whether this is a hardware issue or Sony's image processing - but the fact that people complain about the cameras on better Xperia devices suggests that Sony's software may be at fault. They definitely cut costs with the front camera - fine for video calls and basic snaps but not suitable for photography. Ultimately, whoever the manufacturer, people complain about cameras
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
The S4 mini has a smaller screen (lower resolution too?), but more RAM, I think it's a better device if you want a more compact phone. The SP feels better in the hand IMO, it is somewhat chunky and heavy but feels solid and well made. If you've come from an N4 going to a smaller screen may be difficult. The SP is almost flagship standard - the corners cut aren't that important to sensible users, do mobiles really need 4 core processors, 1080p and 2gb of ram? I don't think you can do much better for the price - so it's really about the screen size when it comes to choosing between this and the S4 mini. I don't know about the L7
Parkside said:
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
Yes - it's a fast phone. A high clock speed and the fact it renders to 720p rather than 1080 means it's very snappy
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
A good screen, not great like flagship devices. Viewing angles are fine IMO - Sony has a bad rep for this but the SP's viewing angles are a vast improvement on their older xperia phones
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
I don't think you should be worried, this is improving with each update, but people have complained about this.
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
Sony have a good support network, but there are some issues they seem unwilling/unable to address with this phone. Wifi is clearly a problem
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
A relatively new device and not especially common IMO, but development is steady, a rom a week maybe. I don't know which are popular, but stripped back ROMS and ones attempting to give the feel and look of flagship Xperia devices dominate. Kernels are all stock based at the moment, but FreeXperia and some independent developers are planning to bring CM10.1 and CM10.2 to the phone. After that I expect things to gather pace - MIUI and AOSP roms should follow on pretty quickly I imagine. There are a decent amount of mods as well
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
The internal storage - around 5gb is available for the user, this is just about adequate, coming from a 2011 device I thought it would be enough, but because you can't move apps to an external SD, it get's used up quickly. I'm not a power user and it doesn't feel like enough. There are ways around it if you're rooted, but you wish Sony would do what Samsung have done and mod their builds to allow this
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
I think it helps if you've got a newish router, but my experience isn't great and this is echoed by many others here and on Sony's support forums. There are ways to improve it, but out of the box performance for some users is unacceptable IMO. However with the tweaks in place I now get reception in parts of my house where none of my other devices (laptop, netbook, old phone) get reception - for me range has always been excellent, but connecting in the first place sometimes took several attempts or needed a phone reboot
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
The camera is average, don't know whether this is a hardware issue or Sony's image processing - but the fact that people complain about the cameras on better Xperia devices suggests that Sony's software may be at fault. They definitely cut costs with the front camera - fine for video calls and basic snaps but not suitable for photography. Ultimately, whoever the manufacturer, people complain about cameras
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
The S4 mini has a smaller screen (lower resolution too?), but more RAM, I think it's a better device if you want a more compact phone. The SP feels better in the hand IMO, it is somewhat chunky and heavy but feels solid and well made. If you've come from an N4 going to a smaller screen may be difficult. The SP is almost flagship standard - the corners cut aren't that important to sensible users, do mobiles really need 4 core processors, 1080p and 2gb of ram? I don't think you can do much better for the price - so it's really about the screen size when it comes to choosing between this and the S4 mini. I don't know about the L7
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer everything I asked!!!
This really seems like a good phone, specially for the price. Regarding the screen size, thats why im interested in this phone more than any other "budget" phone, I know it will be hard to go any smaller than 4.5" and 720p. Anyways thanks a lot for your time, guess Ill try to go to a store where I can use it for a while and compare it with others
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer everything I asked!!!
This really seems like a good phone, specially for the price. Regarding the screen size, thats why im interested in this phone more than any other "budget" phone, I know it will be hard to go any smaller than 4.5" and 720p. Anyways thanks a lot for your time, guess Ill try to go to a store where I can use it for a while and compare it with others
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Plus... If you're a gamer, then this is it! Amazing performance!
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Go for it mate.. Using it since 3 months.. Amazing performance.. With the latest Update all bugs are solved for me.. Camera is not great but not bad.. And u will get upcoming android 4.3 and 4.4 ( may be)
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Go for it mate.. Using it since 3 months.. Amazing performance.. With the latest Update all bugs are solved for me.. Camera is not great but not bad.. And u will get upcoming android 4.3 and 4.4 ( may be)
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I think I will! thanks a lot man, I've seen you around a lot on this forum, glad to know we have people like you guys helping the community!
I have one more question, do I have to unlock my bootloader in order to intall custom roms and kernels, or iin order to make them perform better? If so , I hope any of you can guide me on how to unlock the bootloader without loosing any features as I've read that you'll loose bravia engine and some other stuff... Please excuse my ignorance but the method to do this on the N4 was pretty straight forward and Im a little confused right now lol
Btw: I know I don't even have the phone yet but usually the first thing I do is rooting and unlocking the bootloader and installing a rom so I really want to know a bit more before doing anything stupid :silly:
Thanks again
To open the bootloader it is easy but not like n4, if you open bootloader then you will loose be2 etc.
You can root and install cwm without opening bootloader.
Many Sony xda members use software called flash tools to install ftf files these contain all the stock ROM files.
To install custom stock ROMs you generally can use on locked bootloader, for some custom ROMs like cm 10.xx you will need to unlock bootloader to use kernels(this applies to all kernels)
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zolaisugly said:
To open the bootloader it is easy but not like n4, if you open bootloader then you will loose be2 etc.
You can root and install cwm without opening bootloader.
Many Sony xda members use software called flash tools to install ftf files these contain all the stock ROM files.
To install custom stock ROMs you generally can use on locked bootloader, for some custom ROMs like cm 10.xx you will need to unlock bootloader to use kernels(this applies to all kernels)
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Yeah thats what I thought, but I think ill install a "stock enhanced" rom or something similar, Xperia pureness seems to be a good rom with a bit of customization while keeping all Sony features. No custom kernel for me, although I was kind of exited to try doomlodr's
Once again, I appreciate your quick response and support. Think ill buy this little guy today
fcb-1899 said:
Hey guys my nexus 4 was recently stolen :crying: and now its time to start looking for a new phone
This is probably the best option i've found so far in my price range but... I have a few questions I'd like to ask to people who actually own the phone, not biased internet reviewers
First of all, I will not ask about benchmarks or specs as we all know they mean nothing if the software is not optimized... but here are a few doubts I have before I buy it
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
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1- So far very smooth and great experience. I have around 50 apps installed and so far no noticeable lag or performance issues.
2- The display is pretty good, the viewing angles are not very good but it doesn't bother my much as I'm usually holding my phone straight or have it propped up against something. Other than that the screen is very crisp and beautiful.
3- Like in point #1, no ram issues so far but I haven't tried any resource intensive apps to test it to it's limit yet.
4- Haven't needed to contact Sony so far hope it stays that way. Bear in mind their support services might change from one region to another.
5- Personally I'm really enjoying the stock rom so I didn't feel like I need to install any custom ones. There are a few custom roms out there though including Cyanogen Mod
6- There is something that bothers me about this phone but I don't hate it, it's just an annoyance. The phone feels a bit fragile and if you're clumsy or paranoid like me you'll want to get a case for it. The problem is this model doesn't have that much accessories out for it (and no official accessories) so you might have a hard time finding something. I had to order stuff for it online and it was quite costly.
7- WiFi reception is pretty bad, especially when I use it side to side with my other devices. There is a couple of WiFi fix threads on this forum, I haven't read them yet but you should definitely check them out.
8- Camera isn't amazing but it's not bad either. In low light conditions you have to fiddle around the settings a bit first to get a decent shot. Again there's a thread on this forum with users' camera shots to give you a good idea on how good or bad the camera is
9- The Galaxy S4 mini is a decent competitor for this phone, it has a better camera and better viewing angles if that's important for you, but it has a smaller screen.
The Sony Xperia ZR is slightly more expensive than this phone but has higher specs and some extra features. Mind that the water proof models have all their ports covered with water tight flaps and the sound on the speakers sound a bit muffled probably also because they are made water proof. (http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php)
There are some nice mid-range HTC phones but the new HTCs often have internal battery and memory (no SD card slot).
Overall I'm absolutely in love with this phone. I love the battery life, the screen and the sound (loud speakers included). If you're into gaming this phone performs good and it also supports Sony Playstation's Dual Shock 3 controller which is a nice little bonus. (Hook it up to your TV and play with the controller :victory: )
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I think I will! thanks a lot man, I've seen you around a lot on this forum, glad to know we have people like you guys helping the community!
I have one more question, do I have to unlock my bootloader in order to intall custom roms and kernels, or iin order to make them perform better? If so , I hope any of you can guide me on how to unlock the bootloader without loosing any features as I've read that you'll loose bravia engine and some other stuff... Please excuse my ignorance but the method to do this on the N4 was pretty straight forward and Im a little confused right now lol
Btw: I know I don't even have the phone yet but usually the first thing I do is rooting and unlocking the bootloader and installing a rom so I really want to know a bit more before doing anything stupid :silly:
Thanks again
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Good thing you asked this because I stupidly unlocked my bootloader without paying attention and I permanently gimped my phone in the process. Xperia devices have a hidden partition that contains DRM keys. Without them the Bravia Engine and certain non-essential features in the Walkman app won't work. There is a way to back up and restore that partition before unlocking the bootloader. This will keep your phone's full features and warranty intact if you need them.
Check this thread here before unlocking the bootloader :
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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1- So far very smooth and great experience. I have around 50 apps installed and so far no noticeable lag or performance issues.
2- The display is pretty good, the viewing angles are not very good but it doesn't bother my much as I'm usually holding my phone straight or have it propped up against something. Other than that the screen is very crisp and beautiful.
3- Like in point #1, no ram issues so far but I haven't tried any resource intensive apps to test it to it's limit yet.
4- Haven't needed to contact Sony so far hope it stays that way. Bear in mind their support services might change from one region to another.
5- Personally I'm really enjoying the stock rom so I didn't feel like I need to install any custom ones. There are a few custom roms out there though including Cyanogen Mod
6- There is something that bothers me about this phone but I don't hate it, it's just an annoyance. The phone feels a bit fragile and if you're clumsy or paranoid like me you'll want to get a case for it. The problem is this model doesn't have that much accessories out for it (and no official accessories) so you might have a hard time finding something. I had to order stuff for it online and it was quite costly.
7- WiFi reception is pretty bad, especially when I use it side to side with my other devices. There is a couple of WiFi fix threads on this forum, I haven't read them yet but you should definitely check them out.
8- Camera isn't amazing but it's not bad either. In low light conditions you have to fiddle around the settings a bit first to get a decent shot. Again there's a thread on this forum with users' camera shots to give you a good idea on how good or bad the camera is
9- The Galaxy S4 mini is a decent competitor for this phone, it has a better camera and better viewing angles if that's important for you, but it has a smaller screen.
The Sony Xperia ZR is slightly more expensive than this phone but has higher specs and some extra features. Mind that the water proof models have all their ports covered with water tight flaps and the sound on the speakers sound a bit muffled probably also because they are made water proof. (http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php)
There are some nice mid-range HTC phones but the new HTCs often have internal battery and memory (no SD card slot).
Overall I'm absolutely in love with this phone. I love the battery life, the screen and the sound (loud speakers included). If you're into gaming this phone performs good and it also supports Sony Playstation's Dual Shock 3 controller which is a nice little bonus. (Hook it up to your TV and play with the controller :victory: )
Good thing you asked this because I stupidly unlocked my bootloader without paying attention and I permanently gimped my phone in the process. Xperia devices have a hidden partition that contains DRM keys. Without them the Bravia Engine and certain non-essential features in the Walkman app won't work. There is a way to back up and restore that partition before unlocking the bootloader. This will keep your phone's full features and warranty intact if you need them.
Check this thread here before unlocking the bootloader :
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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Are you talking about the TA partition? Just curious...i did back it up before i unlocked bootloader..so if i restore it, will my "features" be back? Also..any special procedure for restoring the backup? By the way i am on .254 ..i made the backup while on .245 . So will restoring, in any way, harm the device? And also. Does restoring TA wipe data of the phone? ..sorry for so many questions.
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That was quick! Congrats on your new phone
Yep, I mean the TA partition. What did you use to back it up? Either FlashTool or TA_Backup script (the .bat file) should give you the option to restore, so use the same one you used in the first place. Yes, it should restore all your features back. I haven't tried restoring before since I lost mine, but I would assume it would wipe your phone since it also re-locks your Bootloader.
As for firmwares, I'm not sure. You can check this thread (use the "search this thread" box) or maybe even ask them directly. If you're feeling brave you can go ahead and try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
Edit: Sorry, my internet is a bit slow today. I did a quick search and it seems it's safe to restore to any firmware. I still highly recommend you check the thread for yourself first. Don't take my word for it.
That was quick! Congrats on your new phone <br />
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Yep, I mean the TA partition. What did you use to back it up? Either FlashTool or TA_Backup script (the .bat file) should give you the option to restore, so use the same one you used in the first place. Yes, it should restore all your features back. I haven't tried restoring before since I lost mine, but I would assume it would wipe your phone since it also re-locks your Bootloader.<br />
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As for firmwares, I'm not sure. You can check this thread (use the "search this thread" box) or maybe even ask them directly. If you're feeling brave you can go ahead and try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598<br />
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Edit: Sorry, my internet is a bit slow today. I did a quick search and it seems it's safe to restore to any firmware. I still highly recommend you check the thread for yourself first. Don't take my word for it.
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Oh thanks man and i'm not the one who made this thread XD i just wanna restore to stock completely
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Oh thanks man and i'm not the one who made this thread XD i just wanna restore to stock completely
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Oops! Looks like my internet isn't the only thing that's slow today xD
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ByteFalcon said:
Oops! Looks like my internet isn't the only thing that's slow today xD
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Haha XD and just letting you know, i did a full wipe and returned to .245 , then rooted it and THEN restored TA partition. Afterwards i clean flashed 245 and updated to 254 via OTA.everything's fine now and i finally feel the effects of Bravia Engine
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Very Very good phone.
Hi,
I'll try to give you my most honest feedback, unbiased as much as possible. I'd like to state that XSP is my 1st droid phone ever, my last phone was nokia E52 (which had a high velocity encounter with a wall) so it is quite a change so my opinion might be and prolly is influenced by that. Ofc i played around with other droid phones like my brother's HTC wildfire S so i have some minor comparison to the inferior phones. Lest get started...
fcb-1899 said:
Hey guys my nexus 4 was recently stolen :crying: and now its time to start looking for a new phone
This is probably the best option i've found so far in my price range but... I have a few questions I'd like to ask to people who actually own the phone, not biased internet reviewers
First of all, I will not ask about benchmarks or specs as we all know they mean nothing if the software is not optimized... but here are a few doubts I have before I buy it
1- How is the overall user experience, I mean, are the transitions smooth and do apps open fairly quick?
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The overall Xperia'ence is very good if not great. I would say that 99% of apps you will find run flawlessly, the one i remember that manages to stutter having influent scrolling is A1 SD bench (it also doesnt recognize SD card as a external card). Every game i installed and toyed with ran beautifully be it Osmos, PvZ or nearly anything else. The most extreme fps drop i've managed to get is in (this is the "nearly") arcane legends where there is like 30 people at once on the screen. i think that fps might drop there to like ~25 fps, personally i find it a very secluded and specific case and i am not bothered with it. For crying out loud this little gadget runs full HD 1080p mkv movies like its nothing... The processing power is insane and you really have to find/do some crazy stuff to encounter any kind of unsmooth transition. The only other situation i can think of when things get a bit jerky is the first few seconds after boot up. But i guess it's normal when there is a crapload of things to load up at once.
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2- What do you think from the display? Ive read that its pretty good for a mid/almost high-end smartphone but viewing angles aren´t the best
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At first when i got the phone i was in 3 days awe, things looked insane. When i started to read reviews there is indeed some truth to it but lets face it... why would anyone need some sick viewing angles on a 4.6" display? Its not a display large enough to view from to great distance to get in the bad angle range. When you are looking at it straight or even on some minor angle, like 3 people looking at the display at once things look great. So... angles aren't THE best, true but are really really great. Not only for this price, but in general they display is performing great. You also have to be aware that you (you as eye-brain) get used to things. So if you are using a very high end IPS display day to day with 120 Hz+ refresh rate you are likely to be not satisfied ONLY due the fact are used to something so much better. I use S27B350 Samsung display daily so my eye is used to similar class or quality and i am very satisfied with XSP display. I am sorry i cant give you any angle values but i didnt measure it so i can only give some examples from practice.
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3- Should i be worried about ram? On my fist android phone, apps crashed because there wasnt enough ram, for example if I was playing a ram intensive game, while listening to music, the music suddenly stoped playing
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I dont think you should be worried about that. I very rarely seen app crash but i did nonetheless. I cant even recall what were the apps to crash since it was so rare. At some point i used Google navigation, music and had a browser opened in the back - no problem, phone not breaking a sweat (apart from insane battery drainage and some heat).
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4- How is sony's support, has anyone had any problems with their phone?
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That would be influenced a little by your country. I once called polish support, since i am polish, and the lady i talked to... god id rip her throat out, quite a b*tch she was. The one problem i encountered is the LTE. Let me explain, when my phone is set to LTE (preffered) / WCDMA / GSM the gsm reception (signal) is often lost - i get 0 bars and red x for few seconds. This goes away when i set to WCDMA (preffered) / GSM.
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5- What are the most popular roms arround here? and kernels? This is a big one for me, as i consider my self a flashoholic hehehe I ask because after a quick look at the android development forum in here i haven´t found much althrough Im happy to see DoomLord around (remember him, and his awesome kernels for the Xperia play)
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I cant help on this one i use stock, rooted, locked bootloader (btw rooting with DoomLord's method nearly always generate an offline charging bug - fixable but needs some work). Isnt Cyanomod an option?
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6- Is there any specific thing you hate about this phone? Anything?
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Yes in fact there is but minor. I hate the color inconsistency of apps. I would shoot in the head the one responsible for not making black/dark gui (only white) as a stock option for sms phonebook etc. I love that smartconnect in stock is black but hate with passion that updates are white and no longer support gps toggle. Last one is more about 4.1.2 not XSP, i hate that i cant get a popup when i connect to PC via USB asking which mode to connect in. The option to choose either Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) or Mass Storage mode (MSC) is only manual and "hidden" very deep in options (settings > Xperia > USB connectivity > USB connction mode).
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7- How is the wifi reception? Ive read somewhere that it was terrible but that seems unlikely, so what do you think about it?
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That one might be true. Prolly one of the biggest if not the biggest issue of this phone - quite bad wifi antenna. It really works bad with weak signals, where laptops or other devices have like ~30% wifi strength the XSP might not have it at all. Where my silly old E52 had 100% the XSP has 50-75%... It is also very likely to lose wifi connection on very weak signals. Some people claim that the 2.254 soft fixed the issue but the only fix i noticed, compared to 1.257, is that i dont need to wait few seconds after unlocking the phone to connect to wifi (at home situation). Sadly I cant see the signal strength to be one bit better.
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8- Camera... How is it? And how does the front facing camera perform? I use it a lot in low light situations, and my nexus camera was kind of terrible
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Personally i am not too satisfied with the camera, neither of the 2.[Rear] I think that compression of images is way to great. I wouldnt mind having 4 MB photos from 8 Mpix camera and not 2-2.2 MB like now. I cant compare to your nexus but i feel that camera could have been a tiny bit better. However, many/most people say it is very good and are happy with it. I dont do too many photos so i am living with that but if you really like or need to do good photos... you might wanna think twice. [Front] And front facing? It's a tiny, little thing in VGA, let's not expect miracles from 640x480 resolution form optics that are the size of a needle (?). Although, I dont know if you would get anything better in that price range...
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9- Finally, would you recommend a different phone (in a similar price range of course) over this one? How do you think it compares to the s4 mini, or an lg L7 as those are probably the only other options available in my country
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Personally i hate samsung phones mostly cos they **** them out like they had a diarrhea which leaves little time to introduce updates. Only because like 50% of the market is samsung doesnt mean its good. The LG L7 i dont know... literally i have no opinion. I for one am very happy with XSP. It has one of the highest capacity batteries out there: 2370 mAh, compared to high end considered Xperia Z's 2330 mAh it looks darn good. Beaten by far afaik only by Xperia's Z ultra's 3050 mAh battery. With moderate and reasonable usage the battery can last even 2 days which is quite a feat for any new generation smartphone with a display of that size. XSP to this day has one of the best dual core CPUs and GPU which performs superbly in practice. It is also made quite well, u dont see any "cheapness" in the material. If i were to chose again from the three S4 mini vs LG L7 vs XSP id still go for the Xperia. One more good thing is that we are expecting the 4.3 JB update soon, which gives hope that this phone won't be disregarded and leaves hope for upgrades in foreseeable future. The phone seems optimized dead on in terms of software efficiency which perhaps why many people on XDA are quite glad with stock rom - simply it really is good and well made, not perfect simply because there is are no perfect things in this world.
Personally i think it is the best choice it its class.:good:
Any Front camera samples?
Not expecting any miracles tbh just want to see how it looks.
They should'v ereally put a 1.3 on the front tbh
I can vouch for Sony Support, a few drops of water were in my screen and the aluminum casing was totally messed up(scratched and chipped) from an awful fall, I sent it in using warranty, saying that the display was acting up, and they replaced the screen and the aluminum casing ^_^
it seems that there are fairly decent reviews for SP in this thread.
Actually, I cant decide between a N4 and a SP since I can get either one for the exact same price
I am an average user who tends to do some light gaming, browsing and whatsap
I just wish to have a smooth user experience. Personally I am inclined to have a sony sp, given that the various bugs (wifi, touch screen sensitivity) are actually solved by the recent updates.
Are they major differences between the two handsets ( apart from 3g and 4g) or I would be happy with either one of them?
Thank you.
Main issue for me is the lack of internal storage on the n4. The n5 is rumored to only be a month away and its supposed to be quite competitively priced. Only a rumour though.
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Im between several phones tbh.
Been looking at the HTC One X, not brand new but used, better camera and what not but I heard the battery lifes horrible.
Hey thanks for helping out.
Okay, let's break things down. Consider I can get either of these phones for the same price. Now, go through my impressions on both the phones and help me decide.
So, these are reasons to go for,
G6 over OP5
- The design
- "I" think the G6 camera got an edge over OP5
- It's compact yet has a bigger screen
- Water resistance (not really a deal breaker for me though)
- OIS
- Design again (It's essentially just the design and alot the design)
OP5 over G6
- I love Oxygen OS just because it's closer to stock android (G6 doesn't even come close in this department)
- Much cleaner with nearly no bloatware
- More RAM and better processor means smoother and faster experience
- I think I would find myself using the portrait mode more often than a wide angle shot
- Dash charging (of course)
- Alert slider
- Faster read and writes
- Prefer AMOLED over LCD
And there are things like SOT, sound quality/volume and other little things that would make one of them top the other. Hope someone can give some valuable comments on this. Thanks again
PS: I know the later list is longer, but it's just not that easy for me Also you may know other things that would make either of my lists grow.
also a LED notification for the OP5, the G6 doesn`t have one, that was the one thing that bugged me about the G6, so I ended up getting rid of it, I would go OP5, but I will have my OP5 tomorrow...... so I will see if my mind changes on that lol
For me The OP5 is better
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Hey thanks for helping out.
Okay, let's break things down. Consider I can get either of these phones for the same price. Now, go through my impressions on both the phones and help me decide.
So, these are reasons to go for,
G6 over OP5
- The design
- "I" think the G6 camera got an edge over OP5
- It's compact yet has a bigger screen
- Water resistance (not really a deal breaker for me though)
- OIS
- Design again (It's essentially just the design and alot the design)
OP5 over G6
- I love Oxygen OS just because it's closer to stock android (G6 doesn't even come close in this department)
- Much cleaner with nearly no bloatware
- More RAM and better processor means smoother and faster experience
- I think I would find myself using the portrait mode more often than a wide angle shot
- Dash charging (of course)
- Alert slider
- Faster read and writes
- Prefer AMOLED over LCD
And there are things like SOT, sound quality/volume and other little things that would make one of them top the other. Hope someone can give some valuable comments on this. Thanks again
PS: I know the later list is longer, but it's just not that easy for me Also you may know other things that would make either of my lists grow.
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The design of the oneplus5 is good bro , i know it's like a year old desing and everybody been pissing on it , but be sure to know that if it wasn't close in apparence to the Iphone 7 , nobody will point it out as a "bad" design ... once you take that idea out of your brain , the design is really good , also don't judge it like you see it because unless u held it you know nothing about it ... like MKBHD said : the most important is how it feels .
The camera on it is also great , i couldn't rely on the reviews on youtube , just because some people showed it better than the biggest phones , while others showed it like trash ... so for this i'll say it's up to you , it's definitely a user preferance thing , but note that hopefully it will get better with software updates and also that the phone is less than a week old
compact , bigger screen , water resistance ... are things that - again - come to your preferance , some of us would've wanted an infinity display on it , even the company said it themselves ... if it's a deal breaker for you than definitely consider them
as for OIS , it's something shamefull , like how could a company promote a phone and make it's selling point on the camera and not include OIS ?! i don't know , but something to point out , is that of there were EIS with 4K vids , or if EIS was more enhanced ... the lack of OIS will be no problem , even though
OIS >>> EIS ... but still an enhanced EIS will do the job , and hopefully OP will be on it with software updated to put EIS for 4K videos and make it over all better
hope i helped you with is , presonnally just for stock-ish android experience , and support of the dev community and root and all that ... i will choose a OnePlus phone over anything else ... the GPixel is great , but very expensive nd lacks some very cool stuff that the OP5 has ... and after all , it is your call , for me ... i would rock that OP5 .
G6 only has snapdragon 821 whereas OnePlus has 835. That's another big item I think.
Some for hijacking the topic but I too am considering buying OP5 but am confused which version should I get, the 6GB one or the 8GB one. Storage is not an issue as 64 GB will be four times more than what I need, lol. But just curious if that 2 GB will make any difference in performance? If not now, will it make difference in the next say 6-12 months, as I am considering to buy this one for at least 2 years.
Thanks
G6 better build quality, display, camera. The only downside to it is its an S821 but the S821 is a great SOC.
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Some for hijacking the topic but I too am considering buying OP5 but am confused which version should I get, the 6GB one or the 8GB one. Storage is not an issue as 64 GB will be four times more than what I need, lol. But just curious if that 2 GB will make any difference in performance? If not now, will it make difference in the next say 6-12 months, as I am considering to buy this one for at least 2 years.
Thanks
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6GB will last you for some years to come. As of now, there is no real usage for 8GB of RAM; the software isn't properly optimized (yet). With some time and custom ROMs this will probably change though. But still, considering most major flagships (S8, Pixel, G6) only have 4GB, the 6GB version should be more than enough. I was considering the 8GB version only because of how storage consumption is currently growing pretty fast, so I was concerned I might run out of storage when I manage to keep my phone more than 3 years. Also I like the matte black version more.
At the end, I still opted for the 6GB/64GB/Slate Grey version though. Arrives tomorrow
Indian Devil said:
Some for hijacking the topic but I too am considering buying OP5 but am confused which version should I get, the 6GB one or the 8GB one. Storage is not an issue as 64 GB will be four times more than what I need, lol. But just curious if that 2 GB will make any difference in performance? If not now, will it make difference in the next say 6-12 months, as I am considering to buy this one for at least 2 years.
Thanks
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For the casual user you probably won't notice a difference. 6GB is still well beyond what you'd get from pretty much any other manufacturer. If you are a super heavy multitasker, that is probably where you might see a difference.
That said, I got the 8GB one, but it's probably overkill even for me. One of the biggest surprises using this phone is that even large games stay open, suspended in the background practically forever. No more random Pokémon Go Plus disconnects!
Software is key for me. I sold my S8 because as much as loved the hardware, the op5 blows it out of the water in performance. Lgs software imo is even worse than Samsung as it's just all over the place.
Personally I wouldn't pay anything over $300 for a phone with last year's SOC. While it still works perfectly fine, that's akin to paying 2017 prices for a 2016 car.
Basically (to me) the raw speed and clean software on the op5 puts it over anything save for the pixel, which would be a closer call if the pixel could be had for less than the op5 price.
adiliyo said:
Software is key for me. I sold my S8 because as much as loved the hardware, the op5 blows it out of the water in performance.
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You sold s8 and now happy with the OP5? That's great to hear.
adiliyo said:
Lgs software imo is even worse than Samsung as it's just all over the place.
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That's what I was worried about. I hate the s8's software already. Don't think I'd cope up with LG's
adiliyo said:
Basically (to me) the raw speed and clean software on the op5 puts it over anything save for the pixel, which would be a closer call if the pixel could be had for less than the op5 price.
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Agreed. I'm currently using the Pixel XL. And it's blazing fast and super smooth(Except some rare frame drops I encounter in the Android O beta). It's sad that I gotta let go of my Pixel. (Reasons I'm letting it go: It's been purchased from US and it doesn't support some bandwidths I need here in India. Also ROM is only 32, no dual sim and occasional microphone issues)
There no other, absolutely no other complaints I have with my Pixel. (Except for a stereo speaker I'd still want that)
2003vstrom said:
also a LED notification for the OP5, the G6 doesn`t have one, that was the one thing that bugged me about the G6, so I ended up getting rid of it, I would go OP5, but I will have my OP5 tomorrow...... so I will see if my mind changes on that lol
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The notification light is no big a deal for me though. Just a nice thing to have
Poor battery life on G6 and old processor
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Batfink33 said:
G6 better build quality, display, camera. The only downside to it is its an S821 but the S821 is a great SOC.
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I don't have any problem with the build quality of my O+5... It's nice, slim, thin, feels solid, ... great phone. Build quality? 100% good. :good:
OnePlus 5 all the way. The G6 is pretty much dead in the water. LG should have waited for SD 835 imo.
ReyTheBoss said:
The design of the oneplus5 is good bro , i know it's like a year old desing and everybody been pissing on it , but be sure to know that if it wasn't close in apparence to the Iphone 7 , nobody will point it out as a "bad" design ... once you take that idea out of your brain , the design is really good , also don't judge it like you see it because unless u held it you know nothing about it
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It's the bezels..man.. The phone really doesn't look like all that 2017. I would not have a second thought had the OP5 a bit slimmer bezels. At least like the G6 if not like S8
Believe me i faced the same dilemma.
There's no hitch in my mind after choosing the OP5.
Personally, it is a preference as to what you want in your phone.
Go over the pros and cons for both.
Check camera quality samples.
See comparison videos.
Etc.
Then make an informed decision bro.
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These days the cameras on most mobiles are so good, it's very hard to make out whats good n what's not, in a manner of speaking...
The OP5 is missing a sd card slot. Thats a big drawback for me
ad_slev said:
Go over the pros and cons for both.
Check camera quality samples.
On a Side Note:
These days the cameras on most mobiles are so good, it's very hard to make out whats good n what's not, in a manner of speaking...
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What's your impressions on the camera? Is it bad? Good? Or great?
mephi_ said:
The OP5 is missing a sd card slot. Thats a big drawback for me
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I don't think I'd run out of memory with 128GB version (maybe 64GB too) really. Considering I also got a laptop if I needed a backup. I'm having a tough time with the 32GB on my Pixel XL though. There's only so much you can do even with a laptop to backup.
It's good only.
I have not tested it fully but I like it.
I switched from a Nexus 6P.. & still like the OP5 camera
It's still on personal preference..
Do check MKBHD's review on it.
Even SuperSaf camera comparisons..
You'll get the idea