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After hearing this news about the new screens coming to the nexus one it got me thinking. Will i be able to purchase an after market nexus one SLCD and install it on my "OLD" Nexus one, if not why?

We probably won't know until someone actually gets their hands on a Nexus with the SLCD and decides to disassemble it to make sure everything is the same to know if it's possible. But screen replacement is always pretty risky so unless you know what you're doing, I wouldn't try it anyways.

To me the question is why would you even want LCD over amoled. Amoled is better. They are only using LCD for lack of supply.

yeah i would never try doing that. i will get someone to do it for me and have them be responsible for any mistakes they make!
yeah i doubt anyone will tare down their N1 unless they break it...
blablum said:
To me the question is why would you even want LCD over amoled. Amoled is better. They are only using LCD for lack of supply.
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus. Its really about give or take in this situation. Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm out side..

solidmac said:
well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus. Its really about give or take in this situation. Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm out side..
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You mean you don't want your screen turning into a mirror when you're outside??

uberamd said:
You mean you don't want your screen turning into a mirror when you're outside??
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exactly this guys knows what im talking about!
but if there was a way to kinda provide a type filter on the screen that would help reduce the reflectiveness of the screen and not by Anti Glare, glare is not the problem its mainly reflections
Super-AMOLED displays are AMOLED displays with an integrated touch function..

solidmac said:
well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus.
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Ah, ok, that makes more sense. I don't know if it would help at all as I haven't tried miself, but reflected light is mostly polarized, maybe getting light sunglasses with polarized lenses would improve readability?

I just tried that, it doesn't seem to work, what almost sort of worked was putting my sun glasses on the screen and that improved the visibility very considerably. I dont know the UV rating for my glasses but only down side is that my screen a tone darker with the phone set on "auto".

solidmac said:
Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm outside.
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Well, at the end of the day the night starts, so the AMOLED screen in your N1 will do it just fine!

Lol lol you got me there but can someone have a answer for my filter question ?

[Q]Whitelevels and screen sharpness

I have only seen 4 galaxy tab 7.7's so far and I noticed all 4 of them really have bad white levels as compared to my galaxy note, disabled the auto power saving and there is a difference in white levels but its still not even close to the galaxy note at the same brightness level. Even at brightness 25% on the note the vs 100% on the tab 7.7shows 'dimmer'whites. This is not a rant but I'm just asking if the screens are calibrated that way or should I keep looking?
Also I noticed that the mdine engine oon the tab provides oversharpening to a lot of my photos and its so obvious and makes the images look bd, supercurio has the same findings.

It is a pretty big screen so it may be they limited the brightnes to save battery power. While the claim is that OLED takes less power than LCD that is not always true. When displaying white, OLED tech uses like 4X as much power as LCD. The power saving comes in when displaying images with medium to darker colors.
What is the "mdine engine"? Is this something that can be bypassed by using a different picture viewing app?
It is amazing how Samsung seems to always add some crappy image "enhancement" like DnIE or such crap. Why can't they just leave our images alone, as we meant them to be? It is freakin' OLED man. You don't need any contrast or sharpness enhancement you knuckleheads! OLED by nature is sharp and has great contrast! Duh!

I don't know. My 7.7 is super bright, sharp and with way warmer colors than my Note.
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DaveC1964 said:
It is a pretty big screen so it may be they limited the brightnes to save battery power. While the claim is that OLED takes less power than LCD that is not always true. When displaying white, OLED tech uses like 4X as much power as LCD. The power saving comes in when displaying images with medium to darker colors.
What is the "mdine engine"? Is this something that can be bypassed by using a different picture viewing app?
It is amazing how Samsung seems to always add some crappy image "enhancement" like DnIE or such crap. Why can't they just leave our images alone, as we meant them to be? It is freakin' OLED man. You don't need any contrast or sharpness enhancement you knuckleheads! OLED by nature is sharp and has great contrast! Duh!
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I'm thinking the samr thing that samsung might ne limiting how bright the whites can go duebto the screen size but based on what I've seen on samoleds some screens juat put out better white levels, not really brighter but whiter.
For the mdine its running system wide.
clubtech said:
I don't know. My 7.7 is super bright, sharp and with way warmer colors than my Note.
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The samoled plus tends to have more warmer colors than the samoled, is the whites on your tab 7.7 'whiter' than on the note at the same brightness level?

EarlZ said:
For the mdine its running system wide.
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Is there a way to shut it off or bypass it somehow?

DaveC1964 said:
Is there a way to shut it off or bypass it somehow?
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Yes I believe so, Supercurio knows more about that stuff.
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simulated example done in photoshop, anyone with the tab7.7 and better photoshop skills feel free to redo this simulated image

Perhaps one of the other reason that the 7.7's screen isn't quite as bright, apart from the obvious power saving reasons, is an effort to possibly reduce the OLED degradation (burn-in) effect.
Either way, although I certainly noticed out of the box that my 7.7 wasn't as bright as my Note (or even my GS2 for that matter!), I was never really bothered by it because (especially when you use movie mode) the colour reproduction is very accurate, and paired up with the contrast levels, it's still fantastic!
I guess, to me, white doesn't necessarily mean I need to put on a pair of sunglasses while looking at my screen lol!

I just wanted to know if the norm has lower white levels, what bothers me more is added sharpening on some images.

EarlZ said:
I just wanted to know if the norm has lower white levels, what bothers me more is added sharpening on some images.
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Have you tried using the movie mode? Settings => Screen => Mode

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Have you tried using the movie mode? Settings => Screen => Mode
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I havent but id imagine thats gonna give a yellowish cast on the entire screen. I didnt get the tab yet as the store units I tried had very obvious screen problems. Gonna wait for a the next batch to arrive.

EarlZ said:
I havent but id imagine thats gonna give a yellowish cast on the entire screen. I didnt get the tab yet as the store units I tried had very obvious screen problems. Gonna wait for a the next batch to arrive.
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Yellowish? Not at all! At least not with my unit anyway. Sure it makes the screen generally warmer in colour, but IMO, more than anything, it makes the colours look more accurate and natural.
Give it a try! You never know until you do...

Black Levels.. now White Levels, you are a very picky person EarlZ...

TeeeJaay said:
Black Levels.. now White Levels, you are a very picky person EarlZ...
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Since when was it wrong to ask for more product information on what is the norm, if you've got nothing to contribute stay away instead of starting a flamebait.
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Yellowish? Not at all! At least not with my unit anyway. Sure it makes the screen generally warmer in colour, but IMO, more than anything, it makes the colours look more accurate and natural.
Give it a try! You never know until you do...
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Well ever since the Galaxy S changing the color mode to movie mode gives a yellowish cast, this is probably dependent on the calibration on the screen we get in the first place. I saw a friend's Tab7.7 the other day and his white levels were really brighter than my Galaxy Note. FWIW, its still a luck of the draw when it comes to color calibration on the screen. But thanks for that tip, when I'll purchase the Tab I'll make sure to also check out movie mode and see if it hits my requirements.

EarlZ said:
Since when was it wrong to ask for more product information on what is the norm, if you've got nothing to contribute stay away instead of starting a flamebait.
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it was a friendly comment kababayan, you got it wrong

i have mine set to vibrant... rather like it like that.
it's just a shame it's SOOOO darn bright!
i cant use it t night!
even with screenfilter and other apps... no worky on amoled

FernandoMiguel said:
i have mine set to vibrant... rather like it like that.
it's just a shame it's SOOOO darn bright!
i cant use it t night!
even with screenfilter and other apps... no worky on amoled
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Very bright noticed the same with the Note ,
Nexus was somewhat easier on the eyes at night,
But probably like you I like a very dim screen at night.
When the brightness is turned all the way down on the 7.7,
is any banding or other issues seen like many report on the Note?
Blacks are black I'm sure but how are greys that are near black.
On the Nexus they were fine, but on the Notes I seen they could have been darker?

Simple: I would like to lower the Program/Back buttons' brightness

Dear fellas,
I have a rooted Note 3 with all the good theming, modding apps, but I couldn't find any, which can dim out the Program/Back buttons. I have a white Note, and the bright buttons don't look good in the dark.
Any tipps?
Thanks in advance.

Don't think it's possible to dim them. Only thing you can do is turn them off completely.

Devhux said:
Don't think it's possible to dim them. Only thing you can do is turn them off completely.
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I'm afraid you are right, and there is no possibility to do it. A few years ago, I had an SGS2 and I could do that, but now I can't find any solution.
Because the phone is white, and the leds are bright the bottom of my phone is glowing, even the screen's edge too.

I know what you mean! I have the white one too

Pink screen at low brightness

I'm hearing a lot of different stories regarding the screen turning heavily pink when the brightness is at its lowest.
Thought i'd make a poll to see how many people are affected, then we can hopefully gather its its a hardware defect.

No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.

spunkfaucet666 said:
I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
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clothednblack said:
No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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Make sure to actually vote guys, would help out a bunch

I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.

jbbuie said:
I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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Same. I use adaptive brightness. My grays have a pinkish hue at very low brightness settings. Doesn't bother me, don't usually have brightness so low.
Just part of being an early adopter, I suppose. Not that big a deal to me, but I can see how others might be upset. It's my first phone of this caliber so I'm still totally stoked with it.

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My device turns pink with adaptive on in a dark room. Also without adaptive only when the screen is just about to turn off.

Mine does this of course, because it is something that happens with every AMOLED phone I can think of. It was something I forgot about of course being on a phone with a regular LCD screen for the last year, but as soon as I got my Nexus 6 I remembered about this little quirk of AMOLED. Hopefully custom kernels can minimize how much we notice it with custom color calibration.
Mine is also much more purple than pink, if it is actually a really pink color them maybe something is wrong, IDK. My purple tint doesnt start to happen till I am about 25% of the way down the brightness slider. All the way down and the screen is very heavily tinted purple. But that is too dark to see with anyway so I never turn things down low enough to make things look bad enough that I would actually care about. The screen look beautiful in any normal lighting conditions. I just think of it as a "night time feature" to be easier on tired eyes. lol.

Wasn't this talked about before release? I thought it was part of the brightness setting and to make it more of a battery saver?
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On... So if I jack my brightness down, it gets a little pink. Whoopty-do... Why care? It looks fine at whatever brightness I use and I've never expected a display to look perfect when it's almost off. It's not some damning evidence that the thing is low rent.
Everyone's looking to complain. Omg, If I click on back 19 times while shaking the phone and switching back and forth into chrome, I drop a frame.... A $650 shouldn't do that!
Smh

Oh I'm not looking to complain at all, I just wanted to see if it's something everyone had or not.
I've just heard so much Conflicting info on this it's driving g me nuts... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?

italia0101 said:
... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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You should, it's a great phone. But like every other phone out there, there will be some that have issues and others that are just here to stir the pot.

Heck, I thought it was a feature to make it easier to read text with the brightness super low...
*shrug*
Well, I guess if it's a bug I am glad I got a bad one. Sure as heck not sending it back with the PVS 13. With my luck I'd end up with a 2.

My 2014 Moto X screen turns pink when I crank the brightness down also on lollipop. I think it's due to the AMOLED screen because I can do the same to my N7 and it doesn't turn pink. I've noticed on lollipop that the screen can be made a lot dimmer than on kk

This is all due to amoled folks. And partly how it is calibrated. But it is an inherent quality in these display panels. As long as it's not pink at your "normal" viewing brightness then :thumbup:

Sorry my screen is pretty:good:

One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.

gruppe3942 said:
One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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Yeah mine does. Lol I am now learning that adaptive is not the same as auto-brightness. But seems like with adaptive on it keeps the screen a bit darker than without. I noticed with the slider maxed out or turned all the way down it gets much brighter and dimmer respectively with it off.

Gorjira said:
I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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If you turn adaptive on, and manually turn the brightness all the way down (something you would likely never do in real word use) you will see it. Even in a dark room I don't see it since my display is still bright enough to stay over the threshold where this phenomenon manifests. If I go lower the brightness way down however, it appears.

Screen issues in SUNLIGHT .A very unhappy LG Fan.

Let me start by telling you that I am a fan of LG screens and lcds and I can't stand the AMOLEDs on cellphones and the unnatural colors. I have an LG TV, LG monitor and had G2 and the G3. I am a new owner of the G4 that I just purchased yesterday.
The reason I switched to this phone is to have better camera and better visibility in sunlight which is where I work. I work outside and need good sunlight visibility and take a lot of photos and videos outside.
The problem I have and I'm sure all the G4 owners will have this, is that the color of the screen fades out especially the greys and the blacks on screen. I'm not having the typical light bleed here. the whole screen fades out almost turning very very grey with texts and other colors fade out in color.
Its doing it on a cloudy day as well. Ive swtiched the phone out to a new G4 because of this problem and the issue is still there with the new phone. I'm really shocked by this because all of the reviews going around the net are raving how its visibility is great in sunlight!
I think LG messed up really bad here, made the display awesome indoors and wasn't fully aware that the lcd is sensitive to sunlight.
I was wondering if anyone else is noticing this problem.
To do the test, go to a random website or some site with text which is more noticeble than other colors(grey texts turn really white so its a better test), hold the phone out for 3-5 seconds then look at the phone. You'll notice that the texts are very grey or even white. It has to be done in natural sunlight. It wont work in indoor lighting.
Then turn the phone upside down for 3-5 seconds then look at the text again to see it come back to dark black or visible color.
Please tell me I'm not the only one noticing this....
I might never come back to LG after this one... At least for my cellphones...

I don't even think it's fixable with firmware updates... oh and my brightness is on 100% when I test it. I've tried it with auto as well and same thing with the first G4 and the new G4 I switched out.
I would hate to pay a restocking fee of $50 just to return the phone.... LG what should I do?!

Yes - I've seen this twice when outdoors at work this week. Hoping it's a software issue they can address? What has been said in the past?

Thanks for the reply. I hope its a software issue as well but I doubt it... I looked all over the internet and not one thing has been said...
I can't believe all the reviews are raving about the visibility outside.... how is this better than G3??? even the G2 had better visibility

I think its like the Note 4 it goes into a high contrast mode, but I use Lux Light for auto brightness and it doesnt do it anymore

Agree on that.
Additional the display isnt as bright as LG made me belive, my G2 is noticable more bright than my G4 ?
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This is a design by LG - to lessen the contrast in direct sunlight, so that you can supposedly can see more. If you cover the light sensor, it'll revert. It only does it at 98% brightness or higher.
It doesn't help me, but it's doing what it's supposed to..

I have lux full version and it still does that...

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I have lux full version and it still does that...
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Yes, that's because LUX controls brightness, not contrast.
You're talking about the contrast changing to lessen when under bright sunlight, no?
Did I completely misunderstand this thread?

How is that a design... Its not contrast... It doesnt do that indoors... It fades out everything

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How is that a design... Its not contrast... It doesnt do that indoors... It fades out everything
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You can't replicate this indoors when you have 100% brightness on? That's weird, because I can...
How is it not contrast? Darker colors are not as dark in comparison to the lighter colors...
Does this video work for you:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/38hfrw/lg_g4_the_little_things_hidden_features_maybe_not/

Yeah it doesn't detect it tell the lux gets really high, but if you take a flashlight to your sensor it will turn on. But either way its still easy enough for me to read I dunno guess I got good eyesight

I just took whole bunch of pictures of my kids at the pool full sun. I have a nexus 5 and 6 and the G4 is almost in another league as far as outdoor visibility imo. At least with the camera app. Haven't had the phone for long so will have to report back if I see this issue

Sfkn2 said:
This is a design by LG - to lessen the contrast in direct sunlight, so that you can supposedly can see more. If you cover the light sensor, it'll revert. It only does it at 98% brightness or higher.
It doesn't help me, but it's doing what it's supposed to..
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LancerV said:
Yeah it doesn't detect it tell the lux gets really high, but if you take a flashlight to your sensor it will turn on. But either way its still easy enough for me to read I dunno guess I got good eyesight
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Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???

skym0903 said:
Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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Sorry, but I don't know. My eyes have gotten used to this, but I'll admit - it was weird in the beginning because I started thinking that my phone had weird viewing angles and thought it was a defect.

skym0903 said:
Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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Good to hear it's by design. Still weird though - came from a note 3 and it didn't do that. Will now relax!

LancerV said:
It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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I use google keep for my main home screen and I hate how it fades out... At least give us an option to turn it on and off...
Is there a hidden settings in the phone where I can change it maybe??
I'm try to find something myself as well.

LancerV said:
It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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pcoulson said:
Good to hear it's by design. Still weird though - came from a note 3 and it didn't do that. Will now relax!
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Yup good to hear that its not a defect. Still annoying me tho since Im outside most of the time...

The funny thing is that when I called LG from the Tmobile store they didnt even know about it. Thats why they swapped out the phone for me. Good CS