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can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
I've seen a tiny hint of this in my screen, but it hasn't bothered me. If it's severe in your phone, you may want to contact HTC.
miketlo said:
can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
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yes I notice this as well but I have to say that is only noticeable with backlight set to minimum, and i think it's a normal behaviour of an amoled screen. Now I have one question about the screen too:
When I'm watching pics or movies the screen has a very good resolution. For all the rest the screen seems a bit dotted and grainy, especially with text. For example in the app launcher where the app's names are written in white and the background is black the text is not extremely clear and if I take a closer look theres seems to be pink pixelss on the letter's edges. I can notice this thing almost evrywhere but I think it's a lot more clear to see with text and the backlight set to max. do you manage to see this too or do you think that's because i have a defective phone?
eug89 said:
yes I notice this as well but I have to say that is only noticeable with backlight set to minimum, and i think it's a normal behaviour of an amoled screen. Now I have one question about the screen too:
When I'm watching pics or movies the screen has a very good resolution. For all the rest the screen seems a bit dotted and grainy, especially with text. For example in the app launcher where the app's names are written in white and the background is black the text is not extremely clear and if I take a closer look theres seems to be pink pixelss on the letter's edges. I can notice this thing almost evrywhere but I think it's a lot more clear to see with text and the backlight set to max. do you manage to see this too or do you think that's because i have a defective phone?
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the grainyness on thin objects like text is 100% normal, its just how these OLED displays work.
This guy did some awesome research into the graininess issue using a macro lens on his camera. Really interesting stuff...
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html
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This guy did some awesome research into the graininess issue using a macro lens on his camera. Really interesting stuff...
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html
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Eheh it's me that started that thread and i think that guy really did a great job trying to explain what's the problem... now i'm curious to know how many people notices this because till now it seemed that only me and that guy could see this "issue" so sometimes i'm still worried i have a faulty phone...it won't be a good thing since I'm from italy and getting a replacement phone wouldn't be very easy
My screen also appears reddish when i turn off the blacklighting in the clock app :\ maybe its defective?
miketlo said:
My screen also appears reddish when i turn off the blacklighting in the clock app :\ maybe its defective?
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No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
coolbho3000 said:
No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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ok thanks, it's just reassuring to know that its not only my n1 experiencing this
Seen it slightly a few times. But never bothered me since I'm never in very low brightness that much.
coolbho3000 said:
No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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Red? Mine goes purple...or am I color blind?
iVisionX01 said:
Red? Mine goes purple...or am I color blind?
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Yes it's more purple than pure red
miketlo said:
can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
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Does it look like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628270
Is it just my device, or are the capacitive buttons on the Nexus S very very faint when lit?
They are near impossible to see in sunlight and still hard to see even in normal lighting. Any insight folks can give would be great. Is this just a thing with Samsung/Galaxy S devices?
unremarked said:
Is it just my device, or are the capacitive buttons on the Nexus S very very faint when lit?
They are near impossible to see in sunlight and still hard to see even in normal lighting. Any insight folks can give would be great. Is this just a thing with Samsung/Galaxy S devices?
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Coming from a Vibrant where the buttons are nearly blinding (especially at night) I'm actually glad they are so dim on the Nexus S.
To answer your question more directly, yes, the button lighting is very dim.
mmas0n said:
Coming from a Vibrant where the buttons are nearly blinding (especially at night) I'm actually glad they are so dim on the Nexus S.
To answer your question more directly, yes, the button lighting is very dim.
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Thanks, mate. This is my first Samsung device.
Thank you unremarked! I'm glad there is a thread about this. I feel they are very dim as well. :-/ Maybe we have a hardware issue? My Epic's buttons were extra, uhh Vibrant
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Coming from a Vibrant where the buttons are nearly blinding (especially at night) I'm actually glad they are so dim on the Nexus S.
To answer your question more directly, yes, the button lighting is very dim.
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i agree 100% with you, the buttons dont need to be lit when you're in direct sunlight and they dont need to be as bright as they are on the Vibrant when you're in low light. I think the nexus buttons are just right.
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i agree 100% with you, the buttons dont need to be lit when you're in direct sunlight and they dont need to be as bright as they are on the Vibrant when you're in low light. I think the nexus buttons are just right.
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jblade1000 are your buttons dim as well? There is a picture in this thread with them looking extra bright...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9865236&postcount=9
Probably like the Captivate, buttons on my Captivate are really feint. My friend's Fascinate has really bright buttons.
I like it, I think that they are not so much more dim as shaded or tinted a greyish color. Notice how the buttons seemingly vanish, it gives the phone a murdered out look. I like it alot, I noticed it in the video and it really looks good with the new screen off animation.
Mine are pretty dim as well.
I like it too Its very professional and sick !!!
I guess to each his own. I believe I like the brightness on my Vibrant better than the dimmer effect on the Nexus S.
Well, I actually noticed it with my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 16Gb N 9005 version.
When I go into settings and open "Accounts" or when I hold the home button to see apps running, I can see the back light on the lower half of the screen. Well, I can see the back lights because the background is black. Whether I'm using it the screen with 100% brightness or less possible, it's the same.
However, when I'm viewing dark pictures or gallery or many other parts that has a black or dark background I can't see the back light. Unfortunately I don't have a picture of it cause I don't own any other camera than my phone to show it to you.
Well, I just wanted to know if it's actually normal to see the back light on the screen as I explained above or is it that my device is a defect one or is there some sort of setting that can change it.
My friend has the N9000 but I can't see the back light on his screen. I'm a little worried.
Thank you in advance for your replies and help!
I've got the 16GB N9005 as well. The screen doesn't have perfectly dark blacks.
nakedtime said:
I've got the 16GB N9005 as well. The screen doesn't have perfectly dark blacks.
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You mean you also experience the back light on some dark background like I've just described?
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You mean you also experience the back light on some dark background like I've just described?
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Correct. I was under the impression this was unavoidable as it is the lcd reflecting the backlight.
Maybe I didn't understand your question.
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Correct. I was under the impression this was unavoidable as it is the lcd reflecting the backlight.
Maybe I didn't understand your question.
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Thank god, I thought my device was a defect one!
I hope it can just be fixed with an update!
Does the 16gb version have an lcd panel ?
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You have a defective screen.
AMOLED displays don't even have a backlight, individual pixels themselves lightup when needed and go off when it's black.
Unless the 16GB version has an LCD display - which I am not aware of.
16GB? Really?
Skander1998 said:
You have a defective screen.
AMOLED displays don't even have a backlight, individual pixels themselves lightup when needed and go off when it's black.
Unless the 16GB version has an LCD display - which I am not aware of.
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Well, I don't know if it's the back light actually. However when I go into settings and then account on the lower half of the screen, I can see the white lights behind the screen. It also apply when I hold the home button to see active apps I can see the same white light like on the lower half of the screen. Normally, since the default background is in black or dark grey it is noticeable.However, the weird part is when I go into gallery which also has the black background, it doesn't appear there! It's full black and I don't see the white like stuff.
Normally it is more visible when I'm in a dark room, mostly at night!
It's not LCD, it's Super Amoled just like the other!
I'm hearing a lot of different stories regarding the screen turning heavily pink when the brightness is at its lowest.
Thought i'd make a poll to see how many people are affected, then we can hopefully gather its its a hardware defect.
No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
spunkfaucet666 said:
I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
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No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Make sure to actually vote guys, would help out a bunch
I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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Same. I use adaptive brightness. My grays have a pinkish hue at very low brightness settings. Doesn't bother me, don't usually have brightness so low.
Just part of being an early adopter, I suppose. Not that big a deal to me, but I can see how others might be upset. It's my first phone of this caliber so I'm still totally stoked with it.
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My device turns pink with adaptive on in a dark room. Also without adaptive only when the screen is just about to turn off.
Mine does this of course, because it is something that happens with every AMOLED phone I can think of. It was something I forgot about of course being on a phone with a regular LCD screen for the last year, but as soon as I got my Nexus 6 I remembered about this little quirk of AMOLED. Hopefully custom kernels can minimize how much we notice it with custom color calibration.
Mine is also much more purple than pink, if it is actually a really pink color them maybe something is wrong, IDK. My purple tint doesnt start to happen till I am about 25% of the way down the brightness slider. All the way down and the screen is very heavily tinted purple. But that is too dark to see with anyway so I never turn things down low enough to make things look bad enough that I would actually care about. The screen look beautiful in any normal lighting conditions. I just think of it as a "night time feature" to be easier on tired eyes. lol.
Wasn't this talked about before release? I thought it was part of the brightness setting and to make it more of a battery saver?
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On... So if I jack my brightness down, it gets a little pink. Whoopty-do... Why care? It looks fine at whatever brightness I use and I've never expected a display to look perfect when it's almost off. It's not some damning evidence that the thing is low rent.
Everyone's looking to complain. Omg, If I click on back 19 times while shaking the phone and switching back and forth into chrome, I drop a frame.... A $650 shouldn't do that!
Smh
Oh I'm not looking to complain at all, I just wanted to see if it's something everyone had or not.
I've just heard so much Conflicting info on this it's driving g me nuts... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
italia0101 said:
... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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You should, it's a great phone. But like every other phone out there, there will be some that have issues and others that are just here to stir the pot.
Heck, I thought it was a feature to make it easier to read text with the brightness super low...
*shrug*
Well, I guess if it's a bug I am glad I got a bad one. Sure as heck not sending it back with the PVS 13. With my luck I'd end up with a 2.
My 2014 Moto X screen turns pink when I crank the brightness down also on lollipop. I think it's due to the AMOLED screen because I can do the same to my N7 and it doesn't turn pink. I've noticed on lollipop that the screen can be made a lot dimmer than on kk
This is all due to amoled folks. And partly how it is calibrated. But it is an inherent quality in these display panels. As long as it's not pink at your "normal" viewing brightness then :thumbup:
Sorry my screen is pretty:good:
One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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Yeah mine does. Lol I am now learning that adaptive is not the same as auto-brightness. But seems like with adaptive on it keeps the screen a bit darker than without. I noticed with the slider maxed out or turned all the way down it gets much brighter and dimmer respectively with it off.
Gorjira said:
I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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If you turn adaptive on, and manually turn the brightness all the way down (something you would likely never do in real word use) you will see it. Even in a dark room I don't see it since my display is still bright enough to stay over the threshold where this phenomenon manifests. If I go lower the brightness way down however, it appears.
Let me start by telling you that I am a fan of LG screens and lcds and I can't stand the AMOLEDs on cellphones and the unnatural colors. I have an LG TV, LG monitor and had G2 and the G3. I am a new owner of the G4 that I just purchased yesterday.
The reason I switched to this phone is to have better camera and better visibility in sunlight which is where I work. I work outside and need good sunlight visibility and take a lot of photos and videos outside.
The problem I have and I'm sure all the G4 owners will have this, is that the color of the screen fades out especially the greys and the blacks on screen. I'm not having the typical light bleed here. the whole screen fades out almost turning very very grey with texts and other colors fade out in color.
Its doing it on a cloudy day as well. Ive swtiched the phone out to a new G4 because of this problem and the issue is still there with the new phone. I'm really shocked by this because all of the reviews going around the net are raving how its visibility is great in sunlight!
I think LG messed up really bad here, made the display awesome indoors and wasn't fully aware that the lcd is sensitive to sunlight.
I was wondering if anyone else is noticing this problem.
To do the test, go to a random website or some site with text which is more noticeble than other colors(grey texts turn really white so its a better test), hold the phone out for 3-5 seconds then look at the phone. You'll notice that the texts are very grey or even white. It has to be done in natural sunlight. It wont work in indoor lighting.
Then turn the phone upside down for 3-5 seconds then look at the text again to see it come back to dark black or visible color.
Please tell me I'm not the only one noticing this....
I might never come back to LG after this one... At least for my cellphones...
I don't even think it's fixable with firmware updates... oh and my brightness is on 100% when I test it. I've tried it with auto as well and same thing with the first G4 and the new G4 I switched out.
I would hate to pay a restocking fee of $50 just to return the phone.... LG what should I do?!
Yes - I've seen this twice when outdoors at work this week. Hoping it's a software issue they can address? What has been said in the past?
Thanks for the reply. I hope its a software issue as well but I doubt it... I looked all over the internet and not one thing has been said...
I can't believe all the reviews are raving about the visibility outside.... how is this better than G3??? even the G2 had better visibility
I think its like the Note 4 it goes into a high contrast mode, but I use Lux Light for auto brightness and it doesnt do it anymore
Agree on that.
Additional the display isnt as bright as LG made me belive, my G2 is noticable more bright than my G4 ?
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This is a design by LG - to lessen the contrast in direct sunlight, so that you can supposedly can see more. If you cover the light sensor, it'll revert. It only does it at 98% brightness or higher.
It doesn't help me, but it's doing what it's supposed to..
I have lux full version and it still does that...
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I have lux full version and it still does that...
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Yes, that's because LUX controls brightness, not contrast.
You're talking about the contrast changing to lessen when under bright sunlight, no?
Did I completely misunderstand this thread?
How is that a design... Its not contrast... It doesnt do that indoors... It fades out everything
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How is that a design... Its not contrast... It doesnt do that indoors... It fades out everything
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You can't replicate this indoors when you have 100% brightness on? That's weird, because I can...
How is it not contrast? Darker colors are not as dark in comparison to the lighter colors...
Does this video work for you:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg4/comments/38hfrw/lg_g4_the_little_things_hidden_features_maybe_not/
Yeah it doesn't detect it tell the lux gets really high, but if you take a flashlight to your sensor it will turn on. But either way its still easy enough for me to read I dunno guess I got good eyesight
I just took whole bunch of pictures of my kids at the pool full sun. I have a nexus 5 and 6 and the G4 is almost in another league as far as outdoor visibility imo. At least with the camera app. Haven't had the phone for long so will have to report back if I see this issue
Sfkn2 said:
This is a design by LG - to lessen the contrast in direct sunlight, so that you can supposedly can see more. If you cover the light sensor, it'll revert. It only does it at 98% brightness or higher.
It doesn't help me, but it's doing what it's supposed to..
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LancerV said:
Yeah it doesn't detect it tell the lux gets really high, but if you take a flashlight to your sensor it will turn on. But either way its still easy enough for me to read I dunno guess I got good eyesight
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Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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Sorry, but I don't know. My eyes have gotten used to this, but I'll admit - it was weird in the beginning because I started thinking that my phone had weird viewing angles and thought it was a defect.
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Wow... How does that help... I dont get how thats a feature..... Is there a way to turn it off???
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It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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Good to hear it's by design. Still weird though - came from a note 3 and it didn't do that. Will now relax!
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It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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I use google keep for my main home screen and I hate how it fades out... At least give us an option to turn it on and off...
Is there a hidden settings in the phone where I can change it maybe??
I'm try to find something myself as well.
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It does actually. Most text isn't gray, it's like the note 4 would do the same thing
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pcoulson said:
Good to hear it's by design. Still weird though - came from a note 3 and it didn't do that. Will now relax!
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Yup good to hear that its not a defect. Still annoying me tho since Im outside most of the time...
The funny thing is that when I called LG from the Tmobile store they didnt even know about it. Thats why they swapped out the phone for me. Good CS