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Miro USB Car Charger?

Saw this bundle on Amazon http://www.amazon.ca/Skque-Premium-Protector-Earphone-Charger/dp/B006OIQC04/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&m=A3VAVEQC03JY97&s=generic&qid=1325865654&sr=1-15 and noticed that it included a micro usb car charger. Would this work with our tablets?

??? The manufacture says it will.

The a500 doesn't support usb charging, supposedly there will be an update to allow it.
~Sent from my Droid SuperCharge~

>DARKMAN< said:
The a500 doesn't support usb charging, supposedly there will be an update to allow it.
~Sent from my Droid SuperCharge~
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Do you have a link to a source stating that there will be an update to allow it?
It doesn't make sense to me, because the hardware physically can't support it (USB can only deliver 5V, whereas the A500 wants 12V IIRC)

It won't work like stated before a micro usb charger won't have the juice to do it. When you plug in the micro usb the charge light does not come on. Not supported and I don't know of any update that will change that.
Update: I just actually clicked on your link and the whole bundle is suspect. The wall charger is even a micro usb. Won't work, perfect example of a company throwing together a cheap bundle to entice the consumer that he is getting a great deal. I bet the chargers aren't even 1000ma which would be the minimum need to charge our tablet if it supported it.

charging and running a 12v device thru a 5 v port.. IF acer figures this out or any other company as in the one the OP is posting..
This company will RULE THE WORLD. BY SOLVING THE ENERGY demand crises in the world... Getting a bit over double energy as you put into something...
Sheesh even a Lame Blonde chic figured this out the day I BOUGHT MY iconia. it Says 12V 1.5 a on my charger... First thing i looked at so i could set my CAR INVERTER . for my tablet.. But with the battery life of the iconia I nearly never need it.. I can howerver charge my cell phone from the usb port in my tablet..
OP no offence but some companies will use popular device names just to trigger sales Read fine print and there exact specs. on any such device..
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Ok ..
Something just came to my mind.. .
I have a new notebook. that has a usb/sata port.. Now i know it required a special cable that is designed for a usb to sata hard drive to use it with a sata hard drive without a enclusure and it runs at the speed of a internal sata port.. when you connect a hard drive to this port . it shows up as a sata drive not a usb drive..
the drive i use is a 3.5 inch 2 tb hard disk that is 12v-5v..
so with this said. its actually pliable that this could work.. But im thinking our iconia does not have this type of usb port.. I will add the 12v usb /sata cable and hard drive will only work on that one usb port on my notebook. the others will not even register it.. If this is a device used in a usb/sata then connected to the Power port of the iconia.. there is a chance such a device COULD be created...
ok im rambling.. Because i DO NOT THINK THIS IS EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT.. most people do not even know this usb/sata shared technology exist....
LAME ERICA AGAIN.. sorry for stealing your thread op.. was just THOUGHTS

erica_renee said:
charging and running a 12v device thru a 5 v port.. IF acer figures this out or any other company as in the one the OP is posting..
This company will RULE THE WORLD. BY SOLVING THE ENERGY demand crises in the world... Getting a bit over double energy as you put into something...
Sheesh even a Lame Blonde chic figured this out the day I BOUGHT MY iconia. it Says 12V 1.5 a on my charger... First thing i looked at so i could set my CAR INVERTER . for my tablet.. But with the battery life of the iconia I nearly never need it.. I can howerver charge my cell phone from the usb port in my tablet..
OP no offence but some companies will use popular device names just to trigger sales Read fine print and there exact specs. on any such device..
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Ok ..
Something just came to my mind.. .
I have a new notebook. that has a usb/sata port.. Now i know it required a special cable that is designed for a usb to sata hard drive to use it with a sata hard drive without a enclusure and it runs at the speed of a internal sata port.. when you connect a hard drive to this port . it shows up as a sata drive not a usb drive..
the drive i use is a 3.5 inch 2 tb hard disk that is 12v-5v..
so with this said. its actually pliable that this could work.. But im thinking our iconia does not have this type of usb port.. I will add the 12v usb /sata cable and hard drive will only work on that one usb port on my notebook. the others will not even register it.. If this is a device used in a usb/sata then connected to the Power port of the iconia.. there is a chance such a device COULD be created...
ok im rambling.. Because i DO NOT THINK THIS IS EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT.. most people do not even know this usb/sata shared technology exist....
LAME ERICA AGAIN.. sorry for stealing your thread op.. was just THOUGHTS
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Dont be sorry, it is very interesting input. I am quite annoyed though because I was actually pretty stoked about having a USB charger. I agree the battery life is pretty good on the Iconia but there are always those days where you forget to charge the thing before going to work. (Thats what got me looking on Amazon in the first place)
I am doubly annoyed that someone might actually buy this and get a big disappointment when the product actually arrives.
Very curious about this SATA / USB port though. Time for some google fu!

i read the manual from HP with not much said in there other then its called a. USB/e-sata port.
I do also know its usb 3.0 standard this notebook is the HP dm1-us3020 model.I think the z version of this notebook does not have this port.the notebook is based on the and Fusion CPU.and gets 7 plus hours batterylife with moderate use.
Charging it is another story.its I think 9 cell li 19.7 v charging brick spent 125.00 for car inverter for this thing grrrrrrrr.
OK im at hair salon and its my turn.
wish me luck.

i believe what you're talking about is an eSATAp port. My (Toshiba) Satilite has one, I just use it as an extra USB port.
*Googles*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp
Some good stuff in there.

mtmerrick said:
i believe what you're talking about is an eSATAp port. My (Toshiba) Satilite has one, I just use it as an extra USB port.
*Googles*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp
Some good stuff in there.
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here is tthe cable I use .not sure if its the same brand
http://www.amazon.com/eSATA-Combo-P...LHVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325966252&sr=8-1
Yes that is the port.as I said above it will run a 3.5 hard drive connected with nothing more then a cheap USB to e-sata unmanaged.(no chips or resistores in cable) type of cable.for all I know all newer notebooks might have one.
I was just making a point that you could in theory charge your Iconia from this port to the Iconia power port.
As the hard drive requires12 vfrom my knowledge.but im not cutting my cable to try it.Don't ask Giggles.

erica_renee said:
here is tthe cable I use .not sure if its the same brand
http://www.amazon.com/eSATA-Combo-P...LHVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325966252&sr=8-1
Yes that is the port.as I said above it will run a 3.5 hard drive connected with nothing more then a cheap USB to e-sata unmanaged.(no chips or resistores in cable) type of cable.for all I know all newer notebooks might have one.
I was just making a point that you could in theory charge your Iconia from this port to the Iconia power port.
As the hard drive requires12 vfrom my knowledge.but im not cutting my cable to try it.Don't ask Giggles.
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Very interesting. According to wiki, laptop eSATAp ports deliver 5v and desktop eSATAp ports deliver 12v. Not sure where in the computer the extra v come from.
I don't have the charger with me so I don't know the specs but I'm wondering if a USB 3.0 to iconia power plug cable would hypothetically work?

Amazon item from op
I got very frustrated after looking around on amazon today for something diffrent.. Frustrated seeing this add for the product you talk about all over the iconia a500 searches on amazon.. So i emailed them about this product . giving them the specs of the a 500 along with a link to the required charger. I also did a review of the product warning anyone from buying this...
I suggest others do the same ITS JUST OUTRIGHT FRAUD...... the seller sent me a response stating the device will do what it says. well not for my iconia it will not..

usb port went to S***

I am super bummed! I have two x10's and BOTH of the micro usb ports on the phones finally crapped out today. I can't get my phone to charge/flash etc. I realize this is a defect of x10's but I have been able to use the micro usb semi damaged by just pushing it forward a bit and resting it against something. Now...nothing, nada. I guess I could buy a universal battery charger to charge the battery (if they even work???) and a microsd reader to put new zips on my phone but how am I supposed to flash kernals without a working micro usb? Is it possible to even do so? I hope that I can talk my phone company into giving me an early phone upgrade since mine isn't due until the end of August! Otherwise I think I may be up a creek without a cell phone...
Edit: I just needed a new cord.:rolleyes
Remove please mods

Yes it is worth mentioning that a new Sony branded USB lead can most of the time fix port connection issues so do not always think the worst.
My X10 had issues for nearly a year but when i got a Arc s and tried that USB cable it worked perfect so now flashing roms is easy again and 2 years on the X10 is going strong.
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Cheap powered USB hub

Has anyone had luck with this one? I'm looking for one that is not too expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000Q8UAWY/ref=aw_cr_d_electronics
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That's not a "powered" hub. By most definitions, a powered hub would utilize a separate power source like an AC adapter, so the attached devices can draw power from it rather than the host device. Something like this perhaps...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ERAOL4
I don't have any experience with either product... just wanted to point out the difference.

kinfauns said:
That's not a "powered" hub. By most definitions, a powered hub would utilize a separate power source like an AC adapter, so the attached devices can draw power from it rather than the host device. Something like this perhaps...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ERAOL4
I don't have any experience with either product... just wanted to point out the difference.
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The Belkin looks like a good choice. There are cheaper products, but I suggest paying the extra bucks for something with a name brand and reputation.
I've had mixed results with cheaper powered hubs. Some worked fine, but none of them for long. My most common problem with cheap hubs is that the USB ports get loose and stop making good connections with your devices.
I've had another odd problem with one of the cheaper ones. The 5v input from the included transformer was not correctly isolated from the 5v of the USB port that heads to the PC. When my PC was shut down, other USB devices on my PC would try to power up through the tiny transformer, which eventually killed the transformer, and was also the most likely reason I had a set of USB ports fail on that machine.
Anyway, what I'm saying is that my recomendation is to buy from a company with a reputation to protect, it's worth the extra few bucks.

Can you still use USB 2.0 cable to charge Note 3?

Can you still use USB 2.0 cable to charge Note 3?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/5/4696874/galaxy-note-3-usb-3-0-power-connector-explained
I have a lot of the USB 2.0 cables, does this mean I have to buy all new cables?

Yes you can. One side of the port can used with a standard Micro USB cable. The linked article even contains a note about it:
Although it's much wider than the Micro USB connector you're used to, the new port is actually backwards-compatible: a regular Micro USB cable can plug into one side of the port.
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That actually works?
*goes to test on a USB 3 harddrive*
Bloody hell! It actually does! You can use a USB Micro cable on a USB3.0 port.

Can confirm the port works with regular micro USB (and Smart Dock, and regular USB OTG cables). Lucky enough to have played with a Note 3 for half the weekend just gone.

But you can't use a an apple 30 pin connector on a lightning port apple product, you have to spend $29 more per cable or risk damaging your device. Ah, the beauty and elegance of industry standards.

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But you can't use a an apple 30 pin connector on a lightning port apple product, you have to spend $29 more per cable or risk damaging your device. Ah, the beauty and elegance of industry standards.
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LOOOL. Good one

Yes You Can! Its a Normaly Way to do this!

RaptorMD said:
But you can't use a an apple 30 pin connector on a lightning port apple product, you have to spend $29 more per cable or risk damaging your device. Ah, the beauty and elegance of industry standards.
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Good luck trying to stuff it in there to begin with.... :laugh: I have no trouble imagining the average iSheep attempting to do so and not comprehending the reason for their failure! :laugh:

Finally USB 3.0 speeds. A shame there isn't a 128GB version of the phone and/or 128GB microSD cards to really let these speeds matter.

I know it`s ancient thread, but can I use standard USB 2.0 cable to flash stock Note 3 firmware via ODIN?

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I know it`s ancient thread, but can I use standard USB 2.0 cable to flash stock Note 3 firmware via ODIN?
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Yes
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Dell Venue 8 Pro - links on USB & Power

I stumbled across these forum posts looking into how to get power and data at the same time on the Dell Venue 8 Pro.
Many good ideas on cable combos and hacking USB hubs to get the power and data working:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/59328-venue-8-usb-power-same-time.html
For the more adventurous, someone cracked theirs open and added a 64GB USB key:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/dell/60553-adding-128gb-flash-venue-8-pro.html

The USB hub mod looks very doable, petergunn posted some videos in that thread which show it step by step and you can pick up the hub (or one very like it) on eBay for less than £2. I ordered one a few days ago to try it myself.
The internal USB mod is a different matter, the soldering points involved look very small. I bought the 64GB model, so coupled with a 64GB SDXC I'm not going to be running low on space any time soon unless I really load the thing up with movies or games.
I have to say I'm pretty impressed with the device though. Bay trails are the first Atom chips Intel will be using the Pentium brand for (for laptop/desktop models) and you can see why. Performance-wise it feels like a huge jump from cedar/clover trail. I've installed a bunch of games on it (inc. Blood Bowl and SC2:Heart of the Swarm) and it plays them well, even on around medium settings. Windows 8.1 is a different matter though, I've already hit several annoyances.

I ended up getting a more expensive but similar hub. The cheap ones seem to be sold out everywhere unless they are shipping from China and I didn't feel like waiting for weeks.
I picked my Dell up as an open box at Micro Center for $139. I don't even know why it was so cheap. It looked like it was never out of the box. I couldn't be happier with the tablet especially for the price. Not as elegant a device as my RT but so much more useful.

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I ended up getting a more expensive but similar hub. The cheap ones seem to be sold out everywhere unless they are shipping from China and I didn't feel like waiting for weeks.
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If your soldering skills are as bad as mine, that was probably a good idea. Mine arrived today, and the 'mini' ones on eBay from Hong Kong are very small inside, with much smaller pads than the ones successfully modified by the guys over on tablet PC review. I attempted the mod today but something must have gone wrong as all I got was "unrecognised device" when plugging it in. In the end I gave up on that and just went for the simpler option (see attachment) and made an adapter from some spare bits and pieces.
It's worth noting that there are a few caveats though, these are mentioned on the thread but quite a few pages in. Firstly, it will only trickle charge while connected to another device, not fast charge (you can verify this by checking in the Dell diagnostics, accessible by holding volume up and the power button when switching on). In practice, this means the battery level should remain around the same if the tablet is on. I think this explains why there is no official docking station for the 8 Pro from Dell as it wouldn't be practical to charge it like this for everyday use. Secondly, you're going to need more power than the Dell 10 watt charger can provide if you want to charge the tablet and run power hungry devices like external hard drives - if I connect my external Western Digital drive to my adapter, it works but the tablet stops charging entirely. A solution is to use a powered hub (or if you're doing the hub mod, attach a second charger to the hub's power connector).
I'm really jealous of the prices the 8 Pro seems to be going for in the US, it's a steal as those. In the UK, I got my 64GB model for £279 which is around $458 USD. That's still cheaper than the official Dell UK price, believe it or not!
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Forget what I wrote about trickle charging, it turns out this was due to insufficient wire thickness. Something to watch out for when modifying your hub though. My tablet is now properly charging when connected to my external hard drive, no powered hub needed

Well, we could actually make a usb 3.0 hub out of the LTE socket.... Took pics of the shields off, I was thinking the notched corner was an sdcard slot. NOPE!

Not USB related, but another mod of sorts (firmware) has been mentioned over on tablet PC review. V3D says it's possible to downgrade to BIOS A03 (with the advanced eMMC/SD speed settings) but keep A04's embedded controller update that fixed the low charge problem:
I just downloaded [A03] right from Dell & used the command /writeromfile to extract the BIOS rom then used AFUWIN from AMI's site to flash the Main bios image & NVRAM. [...]
I don't recommend using DDR50 on the MicroSD card slot, From my benchmark testing I found it had no effect on the speed & others have reported the MicroSD card to becomes unstable, randomly dismounting at times.
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I'll be giving it a go myself tomorrow.
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Confirmed as working, use the AptioV version of afuwin.

something does not go according to instructions complete hanging PC