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what's this about?
I don't get it...

bewA said:
what's this about?
I don't get it...
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Everyones moaning and crying about the nexus one being outdated by newer phones such as the incredible and the evo but technically they're all outdated since the htc scorpion is going to be "whats hot". Its really annoying how some of these people are so concerned about being outdated. Appreciate what you have and make the best out of it.

I think
The nexus is still the top phone, which is why I ordered one yesterday even with all the new phones out, this is my reasoning.
Even with a1.5 processor, our nexus can be clocked to a stable 1.2 at least, and with that speed I font believe a phone actually Needs more because my nexus already flys.
That's just my input on this outdated deal.

sassyness77 said:
... I font believe ...
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You're using Swype, aren't you?

sassyness77 said:
The nexus is still the top phone, which is why I ordered one yesterday even with all the new phones out, this is my reasoning.
Even with a1.5 processor, our nexus can be clocked to a stable 1.2 at least, and with that speed I font believe a phone actually Needs more because my nexus already flys.
That's just my input on this outdated deal.
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If you always MUST live on the "Bleeding Edge" with the best of everything, you will run out of blood and run out of money.
The way I see it, living always on the newest hottest thing out there are for the people with more money than brains.
Yes, I have a Nexus One, I bought it BRAND NEW, but my total out of pocket expense was $140.00, because I sold or traded stuff I had, but stuff I could sell to get the money I needed to get this phone.
So it would not be worth it for me to try and get the next new hot thing out there because I love my N1 and would be hard pressed to see something pass this one up.
I have played with TONS of new android phones that are not out yet (MyTouch Slide, what a joke) and NONE of them are anything that even gave me a slight twinge of wanting to jump off the N1 scene.

these threads are lame... and obviously started by people who don't even own a nexus one.

TotaL BS News...
From a Nexus owner perspective the future is not about slightly better hardware, but about adding real value to the OS.
As far as my Nexus will be updated to any future Android releases I´ll have the better phone out there...others will always have to wait for Google´s compasion.

cheddie said:
Everyones moaning and crying about the nexus one being outdated by newer phones such as the incredible and the evo but technically they're all outdated since the htc scorpion is going to be "whats hot". Its really annoying how some of these people are so concerned about being outdated. Appreciate what you have and make the best out of it.
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Well put, exactly what I mean
sassyness77 said:
The nexus is still the top phone, which is why I ordered one yesterday even with all the new phones out, this is my reasoning.
Even with a1.5 processor, our nexus can be clocked to a stable 1.2 at least, and with that speed I font believe a phone actually Needs more because my nexus already flys.
That's just my input on this outdated deal.
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If that’s what turns you on then fair enough. I maintain the best reason to get a Nexus One (if you accept you eventually have to plump for some phone instead of holding out forever) is that if Google does something cool it’ll pretty much definitely come to us first. And more than likely before everyone else.
But that’s just me, I’m more of a software fan.
antoniouslj said:
these threads are lame... and obviously started by people who don't even own a nexus one.
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If you are referring to me and this thread, you’ve not read it properly. Please see above.
If you are referring to people I criticised in my original post, then I think they probably do own a Nexus One, and become incredibly defensive about it. The people that don’t own one tend to just post saying how they are not going to get one and then their reasons. You can tell because the whole post usually smacks of someone trying to convince themselves of something.

I thought the Scorpion was rumored to be a tablet anyway.

BigDamHero said:
And yes for everyone debating if the Incredible or the Evo mean the Nexus is outdated you can all relax.
Because they are out of date now too – search for HTC Scorpion.
.... which I expect to also be superseded around about tea time.
It’s a point that’s been made in other threads – but you CANNOT keep up with new tech (especially phones). You’ll end up financially ruined if you try. So we can all stop going on about it now and just enjoy our Nexus Ones?
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Link?
Specs?
Any info at all whatsoever?
So does this phone make the Nexus One obsolete simply because of its name?
Lol?
How about providing some real information? Or is this just a troll thread?

Paul22000 said:
So does this phone make the Nexus One obsolete simply because of its name?
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Jesus.... Christ.
That's like the complete opposite of what I said. Please re-read my original post and follow up posts.

BigDamHero said:
Jesus.... Christ.
That's like the complete opposite of what I said. Please re-read my original post.
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I read your post. You said the Evo and the Incredible are out of date because of the Scorpion, without giving any reason why.

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bewA said:
what's this about?
I don't get it...
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antoniouslj said:
these threads are lame... and obviously started by people who don't even own a nexus one.
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I too don't have any idea whats the purpose of this thread...

Paul22000 said:
I read your post. You said the Evo and the Incredible are out of date because of the Scorpion, without giving any reason why.
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You said I said the Nexus One was obsolete, watch I’ll quote you again…
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So does this phone make the Nexus One obsolete simply because of its name?
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I said almost the polar opposite.
Anyway the HTC Scorpion, IF all the rumours are true will have a faster processor (1.5Ghz). Just search the name for references (as I said in my original post). Given how people are positively suicidal over a slightly better camera on the Incredible, I imagine this will not go down well. Its only a few rumours at the moment.
What I’m basically saying is the N1 is amazing and in no way obsolete just because something newer is out. There ALWAYS will be. So lets not live and die over newer phones that are going to come anyway. Thread after thread of it. Lets just bask in the glory that is the N1. Again I say see my previous posts.
I’m not trying to troll, just posting my viewpoint. What’s disturbing is you are potentially the second person to accuse me of exactly what I am criticising.

faraz1992 said:
I too don't have any idea whats the purpose of this thread...
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Epic sigh..
Right fine. No-one is reading, just posting. Pointless.
Mods please close / delete the thread? Or if someone would be kind enough to let me know how if I can close it myself?
Thanks
Bye

This whole thread is dumb; even with the Scorpion coming out HTC is working something to make the scorpion obsolete. Being obsolete doesn't make our Nexus any less awesome than it is.

Wow, they ALL totally missed your point. You were basically telling people to stop complaining about the Nexus One being obsolete. And they all jumped on you thinking you were the one complaining.

Clarkster said:
Wow, they ALL totally missed your point. You were basically telling people to stop complaining about the Nexus One being obsolete. And they all jumped on you thinking you were the one complaining.
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That's what I thought when I read through this whole thread or did I miss something? 0.o

[Q] Android 3.0 on G2

I been reading and i see all the rumors of it being released mid Oct and that it requires a 1GHZ cpu do you think the G2 will get the bump? (but we all know cm7 will be a for sure update) and yes i know the reqiurements are just rumors.

I doesn't need a 1ghz cpu.

You're wrong. The requirements are not just rumors but are confirmed to be wrong.
I just wonder how someone with 200+ posts still hasn't found the search function of this site.

cdw9800 said:
I been reading and i see all the rumors of it being released mid Oct and that it requires a 1GHZ cpu do you think the G2 will get the bump? (but we all know cm7 will be a for sure update) and yes i know the reqiurements are just rumors.
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first off... we HAVE a 1GHZ capable scorpion processor (its just UNDERclocked at 800MHZ to save battery) and the fastest android phone available so yes, of f*cking course the G2 QUALIFIES for gingerbread (sorry I freaking hate that stupid rumor. it's nothing personal... it's just been asked around 10 million times). second... that is debatable whether 3.0 will be pushed to the G2 since tmobile has been screwing all their android phone customers with their lack off new OS version otas after 1.6 so.... who nows for sure. it seems like they didn't release 2.2 for the MTS so some of the owners would upgrade to the G2. and guess what? it worked... we will get a couple fix otas (one is being pushed out as we speak) but know one knows for sure what they will do. if can root the darn thing (hopefully the ota being sent will help in the efforts), we can just port it from the desire z or something similar if tmobile drops the ball on gingerbread. I wouldn't count on it... just my opinion

sino8r said:
we HAVE a 1GHZ capable scorpion processor (its just UNDERclocked at 800MHZ to save battery)
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I've seen this claim made over and over but have yet to see the basis for it. What are you basing that claim on?

People need to enjoy froyo before they start thinking about anything esle
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carlitozway57 said:
I've seen this claim made over and over but have yet to see the basis for it. What are you basing that claim on?
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e.g. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
Can't find anything more canonical than that, sorry.

Guys its very simple. Lets consider the below statement (current situation):
A Desire with 1Ghz snapdragon that scores lower in benchmarks and slower than a 800mhz Desire Z.
If based on that "rumour spec", which do you think deserves Gingerbread more? The 'spec achieving' but slower 1Ghz Desire or the 'below spec' but faster 800mhz Desire Z?
PROCESSOR NUMBER IS NOT AN INDICATION OF ACTUAL PERFORMANCE drill that into your head and stop thinking that the Desire Z will not get Gingerbread.

This topic has been answered before, please use the search function next time.

daijoubu said:
Guys its very simple. Lets consider the below statement (current situation):
A Desire with 1Ghz snapdragon that scores lower in benchmarks and slower than a 800mhz Desire Z.
If based on that "rumour spec", which do you think deserves Gingerbread more? The 'spec achieving' but slower 1Ghz Desire or the 'below spec' but faster 800mhz Desire Z?
PROCESSOR NUMBER IS NOT AN INDICATION OF ACTUAL PERFORMANCE drill that into your head and stop thinking that the Desire Z will not get Gingerbread.
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my sentiments exactly

Becksman said:
You're wrong. The requirements are not just rumors but are confirmed to be wrong.
I just wonder how someone with 200+ posts still hasn't found the search function of this site.
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I searched but what I typed didn't nothing come up and I figured if the Nexus One would get it we would also, and I always felt that our cpu was underclock based on the scores, and yes im aware the processor numbers doesnt account for performance. I havent did much following on Gingerbread so yeah thought id ask my peers..and thanks for clearing that up.

cdw9800 said:
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I searched but what I typed didn't nothing come up
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Search result with query: Gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7968305&postcount=20
which links to the source:
http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter

xyrcncp said:
Search result with query: Gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7968305&postcount=20
which links to the source:
http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter
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oh ok thanks i searched by android 3.0 but the info from the link is good i didnt come across that with my late night googling same ones was popping up from june.

you know XDA has this feature where when you decide on a title for a thread it actually searches for you and you have to scroll down past the results to post the rest of your new thread. i don't mean to be rude, had a trying day and thought for a second that XDA would make me happier(wow i'm f*cking stupid for that).
we need to remove the add new topic from the tapatalk app as it makes search harder and new thread easier. these rumors have been debunked, and notice that the G2 out peforms EVERY other phone out there even with the "slower" CPU, the underclock is a software lock so we could get it kicked up a notch when 3.0 is released(which from recent rumors 3.0 is actually honeycomb). if you don't think the phone will get updates then please return your phone and get a nexus.
sino8r thank you for posting that these were rumors but it seems these rumors will never go away

tubaking182 said:
you know XDA has this feature where when you decide on a title for a thread it actually searches for you and you have to scroll down past the results to post the rest of your new thread. i don't mean to be rude, had a trying day and thought for a second that XDA would make me happier(wow i'm f*cking stupid for that).
we need to remove the add new topic from the tapatalk app as it makes search harder and new thread easier. these rumors have been debunked, and notice that the G2 out peforms EVERY other phone out there even with the "slower" CPU, the underclock is a software lock so we could get it kicked up a notch when 3.0 is released(which from recent rumors 3.0 is actually honeycomb). if you don't think the phone will get updates then please return your phone and get a nexus.
sino8r thank you for posting that these were rumors but it seems these rumors will never go away
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im happy with my phone was just wondering and yeah thanks for the tip honeycomb huh its been that long? i had a vibrant since july i wasnt worried about 3.0 more about 2.2 lol lag fixes gps fixes etc never again will i disown a HTC phone ive learned my lesson but thanks for the tips guys sorry if i caused too much trouble.

itp said:
e.g. http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230
Can't find anything more canonical than that, sorry.
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Thank you. That's better than what most people cite (their ass).

Nexus 3? Oh yeah!

http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
!!!words
No need for words.

uoY_redruM said:
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
!!!words
No need for words.
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I don't Know about LG Designs I rather have a Sony Ericsson Nexus.

well.. only a few more months, i can wait. I'm assuming this will release the same time around the iphone 5? what a competition.

Depending on who releases it and what the specs end up being, this could "replace" my N1.
I'm pretty stoked.

as per rumors it's going to be a tegra 3.

munchy_cool said:
as per rumors it's going to be a tegra 3.
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NO WAY!!! I highly doubt it android barely takes advantage of the Duo-Cores there's not many games supporting Tegra 2 Devices as it is. By Nvidia releasing a Quad-Core would be Suicide for the 5 devices running a Tegra 2 chips.

Glad i didnt buy the G2X. This may be the phone to replace my N1

Sounds great as a N1 upgrade...but don't think I can wait till 4th Q!

Kal-El device?
Wholly ****. God, PLEASE make an AT&T 3G model!
A possible worth upgrade to the mighty N1!

Well, here's hoping for a qHD 4" screen.

No longer a rumor...IT IS CONFIRMED!
Check out THIS article!!
Booyaah!!!

Bling_Diggity said:
No longer a rumor...IT IS CONFIRMED!
Check out THIS article!!
Booyaah!!!
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You realize that this was pretty much stated in the link that the op posted in post 1?

I really hope its not an LG. I've had their phones from the ENV's and ENV touch. Each of which I returned about 5-6 times with the same issues. I know that a potential N3 is a ways away, but an LG brand would be enough to spoil the anticipation.
Sent from my Nexus One

Rod3 said:
You realize that this was pretty much stated in the link that the op posted in post 1?
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Yeah but the article on post 1 was from Android&Me pre-confirmation. The article I listed was post-confirmation, and gave quotes from Andy Rubin.
Just because Google says a press release about Nexus is coming, that doesn't mean a new device is going to be confirmed. Remember that whole bit Google released last summer about how there was not going to be a new Nexus device? How easily we forget...

Hope come back to htc, or moto

myrain said:
Hope come back to htc, or moto
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HTC works for me

I think Nokia would of made the craziest looking nexus with specs to desire some one slap me from this false dream.

Would really b interesting how lg would handle this but i agree wit previous poster sony ericsson may blow the competittion away

i need a time machine!
as long its not another samsung plastic bomb...

navahoo said:
i need a time machine!
as long its not another samsung plastic bomb...
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I dont think they make those yet..

ok!! what is THIS?!!

i am going to buy my sgs2 tomorrow,,,,and now i am reading this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php
God! i dont feel like waiting at all,,,but i ll be very irritated when some1 will bring the same model of my phone with better specs and tell me urs ws a beta version.
PS- I am sorry if posting a link to some other website is banned in this forum,,

guitarmafia said:
i am going to buy my sgs2 tomorrow,,,,and now i am reading this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php
God! i dont feel like waiting at all,,,but i ll be very irritated when some1 will bring the same model of my phone with better specs and tell me urs ws a beta version.
PS- I am sorry if posting a link to some other website is banned in this forum,,
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You want get banned but theres 2 other threads right below yours. You can easily bump the cpu up to 1.4 unless your not into rooting your device. Im pretty sure this is something that would easily be upgradable through firmware or something.
But things like this happen to early adopters.

The article says it all, it is a RUMOR

beWater said:
The article says it all, it is a RUMOR
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they are talking about that everywhere,,,,
just google it...
another example--
http://top10.com/mobilephones/news/2011/06/samsung_galaxy_ii_plus_upgrade_incoming/

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You want get banned but theres 2 other threads right below yours. You can easily bump the cpu up to 1.4 unless your not into rooting your device. Im pretty sure this is something that would easily be upgradable through firmware or something.
But things like this happen to early adopters.
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i dont think that will be possible,,,as this upgrade will be a hardware one,,,samsung is doing this to compete with the incoming iphone 5..

When the phone came out in May without NFC the rumor of the day was that a newer version was due out in June with NFC. People held off buying, Samsung phone agents were quoted, and hundreds of posts were created. Do you see a NFC version of the SGS2 (outside of Korea)?
I'm sure the phone will evolve whether its a SGS2+ or SGS3, but Samsung would be nuts to short change their development and marketing investment in the SGS2 buy cutting its life short so quickly. Relax. Buy the phone.

guitarmafia said:
i dont think that will be possible,,,as this upgrade will be a hardware one,,,samsung is doing this to compete with the incoming iphone 5..
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What hardware change? There bumping the cpu from the sgs2 from 1.2 to 1.4. THere not using a completly different cpu. There basically overclocking the current cpu in sgs2. Intel and other manufactors have been re-releasing the same cpu with different clock speeds. Theres no difference.
And just like above poster said, its just a rumor. Cant believe everything you read, watch or hear.
Edit: If you read the article or kept up with sgs2 before released. It was originally launching with a 1ghz dual core cpu before samsung bumped the cpu up to 1.2. Im guessing after more testing, they believe the sgs2 can handle the 1.4 now.
Ive been running at 1.7 with tegrak overclock for the past week with no difference in battery and is very stable.

LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........

cmd512 said:
LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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or cry, take your choise

Razer(x) said:
or cry, take your choise
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cry or not,,,but i cant lol at this at all,,,

ZOMG it's 0.2 Ghz moooore !!
what are we gonna do ?
just wait for an uncertain device, then official press release, price release, date release, country release, carrier/store release !!!!!1!

Im stable at 1.6, this does not even make me blink

For usage, 1.2 and 1.4 is not much of a difference. The only time you will see the difference is when you are running benchmarks.

jeandujardin01 said:
ZOMG it's 0.2 Ghz moooore !!
what are we gonna do ?
just wait for an uncertain device, then official press release, price release, date release, country release, carrier/store release !!!!!1!
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ok i see ur point,,

cmd512 said:
LOL at all these repeat threads. At some point, all you can do is laugh........
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Nice ride BTW

tjjensen23 said:
Nice ride BTW
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Thanks.
Now hopefully, the mods will shutdown this thread given this silly topic has been started at a minimum of 3 times already!

As said, just overclock it. Done. Don't think we even need to overclock it though, people are satisfied with underclocking it to 800mhz.

This is all more or less marketing. Like commercials, which are always telling you, that you really need this brand new stuff, otherwise you live in history.

Kailkti said:
As said, just overclock it. Done. Don't think we even need to overclock it though, people are satisfied with underclocking it to 800mhz.
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Indeed, every game still runs smooth on 800mhz (except asphalt for some reason)
But battery life is much better, I have it running at 1ghz for now, but with conservative settings and undervolting on every stage. Enjoy your 2 days of heavy use

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When the phone came out in May without NFC the rumor of the day was that a newer version was due out in June with NFC. People held off buying, Samsung phone agents were quoted, and hundreds of posts were created. Do you see a NFC version of the SGS2 (outside of Korea)?
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Err not true, the S2 I bought here in the UAE has NFC according to Samsung Arabia who has confirmed it to me and many others by email.
See the email at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14808534&postcount=1194

New Galaxy S II Models

I've read that there could possibly be a 1.4GHz S II, an NFC S II and a Tegra 2 S II. If there's gonna be a load of other models could this hamper external development for the current S II? If a newer version is released for the US then i guess all development will be on that version and hardware differences could mean incompatibility with the current model. What do you think? Here's a link to an article on the rumoured 1.4GHz S II.
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_galaxy_s_ii_cpu_might_be_boosted_up_to_14ghz-news-2824.php

There are already Tegra 2 Models with a lesser quality screen.
NFC models were announced from the very beginning but no one has yet to see one, they are believed to be thicker. We have reason to believe that the NFC chips are actually present in all of our phones but are software disabled.
As for the 1.4ghz model, this is just pure rumour and speculation based on the industry expects samsung to do something to compete with the iphone 5. If the rumours turn out to be true then all they need is a firmware update to overclock our phones, it won't be a whole new model, more a new batch with latest firmware. I don't expect there to be a 1.4 model though, its not needed.

Can this thread be closed by a moderator as there is already a thread with the same subject matter as this one.

I hope that's the case. I can't find in depth details about the Tegra 2 model just speculation. Do you know the model number?

daleski75 said:
Can this thread be closed by a moderator as there is already a thread with the same subject matter as this one.
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Have you got a link? I couldn't find it.

steviewonders said:
Have you got a link? I couldn't find it.
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Sure thing here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144338

steviewonders said:
I hope that's the case. I can't find in depth details about the Tegra 2 model just speculation. Do you know the model number?
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There's no Tegra 2 yet, and probably won't be at all.

Edit: Didn't go on the link because it takes too long on 3g.
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daleski75 said:
Sure thing here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144338
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Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lennyuk said:
There are already Tegra 2 Models with a lesser quality screen.
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I have read this a couple of times but have yet to see concrete evidence of a single Tegra 2 GS2.

Lennyuk said:
There are already Tegra 2 Models with a lesser quality screen....
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The age old LCD screen quality is probably HIGHER than unproven sAmoled+. The screen technology is different, and screen contrast and saturation are "subpar" comparing to SAmoled+.

daleski75 said:
Sure thing here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144338
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There are also these recent threads dealing with the exact same thing (next gen Galaxy phone rumours):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142170
How can you report a thread to a moderator these days? I couldn't find any function for that.

Fihlvein said:
...How can you report a thread to a moderator these days? I couldn't find any function for that.
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what about hitting that red triangle icon in the left top corner of every post and following the instructions?

kreoXDA said:
what about hitting that red triangle icon in the left top corner of every post and following the instructions?
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That evil triangle, found you!

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For those who are categorically denying the existence of an NFC SGS2 outside of Korea, please look at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14808534&postcount=1194
Lenny I think you are right according to this email.

Lol again at the same old repeat nonsense threads cluttering up the forums.
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