Found a very informative article on androidpolice. The author goes into great detail about smartphone batteries, his findings, and some great recommendations for how to charge your battery. Check it out. http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12/14/your-battery-gauge-is-lying-to-you-everything-you-need-to-know-about-bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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Yea, just read that. Its pretty good.
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Its interesting but gives no actual conclusion
Nero beta 3 + oclf
xriderx66 said:
Its interesting but gives no actual conclusion
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If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge.
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If you are someone who can top off your phone on a regular basis, do it.
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No actual conclusion???? Not sure you read the whole article. I just quoted 2 very actual conclusions from the blog.
xriderx66 said:
Its interesting but gives no actual conclusion
Nero beta 3 + oclf
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Not sure what you mean. I think he did a great job of explaining what to do and for what type of user you are.
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I read the whole thing, and this is what i got as a conclusion, quoted from article.
If you absolutely need the highest capacity on a device like this, you will need to bump charge. There are currently people experimenting with "fixes" for this, but I have yet to see one that works. Be warned, however, that repeated bump charging will wear your battery faster and begin to reduce its capacity.
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He tells us to bump charge if we need to get higher battery, but says that it can hurt our battery life.
Basically to me it gave proof to my assumption that we're not gonna get much more from these batteries. I posted it because there's question after question asking about the battery life. This should give some insight to some. With 1ghz cpus and hardware that rivals a low end netbook with a battery that's tiny compared to one, we should be happy to be getting a full days use out of them. That's just my opinion tho.
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Basically to me it gave proof to my assumption that we're not gonna get much more from these batteries. I posted it because there's question after question asking about the battery life. This should give some insight to some. With 1ghz cpus and hardware that rivals a low end netbook with a battery that's tiny compared to one, we should be happy to be getting a full days use out of them. That's just my opinion tho.
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Hey, more people complaining = pushes the companies to try new ideas.
It's the way the world works.
1 company makes a great battery, another one makes a bit better then the other makes it better and so on...
As Consumers, we shall always want more
As Humans, we shall always want more.
It debunks the odd advice given here to always let your phone drain out before charging it.
Im one of those people who keeps my phone on a charger whenever I can.
Also debunks the supposed need to calibrate batteries in phones.
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N8ter said:
It debunks the odd advice given here to always let your phone drain out before charging it.
Im one of those people who keeps my phone on a charger whenever I can.
Also debunks the supposed need to calibrate batteries in phones.
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totally, deep cycling is bad for Li-Ion batteries. The calibration on the other hand I don't know. The article did talk about about having the battery meter catch up to reality. Maybe reconditioning the battery helps the meter do that faster? I doubt it, but you never know I guess.
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Hey, more people complaining = pushes the companies to try new ideas.
It's the way the world works.
1 company makes a great battery, another one makes a bit better then the other makes it better and so on...
As Consumers, we shall always want more
As Humans, we shall always want more.
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Trust me, im not telling people to not demand more. But it like the guy who buys a mini van and wonders why it doesn't do the same thing a High performance sports car does. Im simply presenting the info for people to make infoinformed options from and be realsitic.
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The ridiculius analogies are getting old...
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N8ter said:
The ridiculous analogies are getting old...
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+1. The analogy doesn't even make sense.
Thanks for the spelling fix, Lol.
Hate typing in portrait :<
xriderx66 said:
I read the whole thing, and this is what i got as a conclusion, quoted from article.
He tells us to bump charge if we need to get higher battery, but says that it can hurt our battery life.
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Was it not a conclusion smart one?
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Was it not a conclusion smart one?
Sent from the Bermuda Triangle.
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No, it wasn't
a Conculsion in a instructional article is where you tell people to do "THIS" whereas that author isn't doing anything but saying do this and then goes on telling us the bad things about doing that.
WTF is the point of telling us a good thing, only to know that it leads up to screwing up your battery?
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No, it wasn't.
A conclusion in an instructional article,is where you tell people to do "THIS",where as that author isn't doing anything but saying do this and then goes on telling us the bad things about doing that.
WTF is the point of telling us a good thing, only to know that it leads up to screwing up your battery?
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Your powers of deduction are lame.There's obviously tradeoffs with the bump technique,as he points out.
Related
Other then the nexus one I would say this phone is worth it if you're on tmobile.
Ps. Phone still hasn't died from purchase trying to kill for battery training
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I am just fully charging it first... Also agree, best phone T-Mo has right now.
Pretty sure battery training only applied to older batteries. It's no longer needed with modern devices.
plbelanger said:
Pretty sure battery training only applied to older batteries. It's no longer needed with modern devices.
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really? I guess I'll start charging now.
as much as I dont wanna admit it. The vibrant smokes my n1, Im trying to sell my n1 for 400 now, I need that phone, I just hope I dont sell my n1 then it sells out.. Ill be piiiiisssed.
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really? I guess I'll start charging now.
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yup lol, if it's lithium ion(most phones are) then you dont need to "train" it, there is no memory effect.
yes I know this phone's lithium polymer, but thats based off of lithium ion, so same no memory effect still applies
The best thing I ever do was sell my vibrant. A phone that came with some errors, poor attention from samsung, T-Mobile in my country doesnt have 3g when the other have it, No the speed. The only thing that is amazing is the screen.
vibrantuser said:
The best thing I ever do was sell my vibrant. A phone that came with some errors, poor attention from samsung, T-Mobile in my country doesnt have 3g when the other have it, No the speed. The only thing that is amazing is the screen.
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that's nice.
Goodbye.
vibrantuser said:
The best thing I ever do was sell my vibrant. A phone that came with some errors, poor attention from samsung, T-Mobile in my country doesnt have 3g when the other have it, No the speed. The only thing that is amazing is the screen.
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the best thing you can do is leave this forum and not troll back in!
Why do you think we care? We are happy with our phones. What are you going to get? A Nokia N8?
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vibrantuser said:
The best thing I ever do was sell my vibrant. A phone that came with some errors, poor attention from samsung, T-Mobile in my country doesnt have 3g when the other have it, No the speed. The only thing that is amazing is the screen.
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T-Mobile has 3G in PR and it's apparently HSPA+. Thanks for the update though, I can sleep now!
I love how all these troll's always come back to tell us that they sold their vibrant... Saying that it was the best thing, yet they ALWAYS come back on here.... Hmmmm sounds like they miss something...
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kangxi said:
Why do you think we care? We are happy with our phones. What are you going to get? A Nokia N8?
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Nah, that's to good for him.. Maybe he is getting an iPhoney
vibrantuser said:
The best thing I ever do was sell my vibrant. A phone that came with some errors, poor attention from samsung, T-Mobile in my country doesnt have 3g when the other have it, No the speed. The only thing that is amazing is the screen.
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Another good thing you could "did" is learn proper English verb conjugation.
The best thing I ever "do" is read posts from morons like the OP... It's good to know there'll be one less "I bricked my Vibrant" thread in the Dev section!
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Nah, that's to good for him.. Maybe he is getting an iPhoney
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I don't think he'll be able to handle one button.
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We are all happy for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qz5yhNAZps
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The best thing I ever do was sell my vibrant. A phone that came with some errors, poor attention from samsung, T-Mobile in my country doesnt have 3g when the other have it, No the speed. The only thing that is amazing is the screen.[/QUOTE
Also curious here, What will you downgrade to?
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I wonder if he'll change his username...
lol @ topic
lol @ OP's username
lol @ responses
lol
Hasta la vista Atorrante
Most people want to complain about the phone... But, what i have found 98% of the time it is the guy you are looking at in the mirror that is the problem.
I wish him well on his quest to find a better phone
i'm thinking about selling my vibrant off too. experienced way too many problems pre-update. now after the update, im getting massive battery drain and gps isn't even working. also, the phone's acting weird and the computer isn't able to connect/recognize the phone anymore. i'm all stock too. such a headache for me, it's just not worth it anymore.
I'm not about to win a Nobel prize or anything but I can think of many MANY things in my life that I have done that are WAY better than buying or selling a phone. I'm not sure buying or selling a phone would even make that list for me.
Really, if that is the best thing you ever do, well then I truly hope you take some time and reflect on maybe at least one thing you can do that could be better than that and try, try again. Don't worry, I'm sure if you keep at it you'll get it.
Can I become a moderator just so I can delete threads.
Me too
I double what s15274n said +1
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lol @ OP's username
lol @ responses
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This!!
LOL.
megatherian said:
I'm not about to win a Nobel prize or anything but I can think of many MANY things in my life that I have done that are WAY better than buying or selling a phone. I'm not sure buying or selling a phone would even make that list for me.
Really, if that is the best thing you ever do, well then I truly hope you take some time and reflect on maybe at least one thing you can do that could be better than that and try, try again. Don't worry, I'm sure if you keep at it you'll get it.
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This too. I'm selling my Vibrant too, but its a great phone, and I just prefer the G2 by a small amount.
I have come to the conclusion that the reason some users are having problems with their phones is this.....
ITS YOUR OWN FAULT!
Leave the phone the way Samsung intended it and 90% of you wont have problems
Dont get me wrong i was one of these people.....Got the phone...was really happy with it and then i started to work my magic lol! New launcher here, different widget there and so on and so on.
Ended up with terrible battery life and then with a phone that got so hot it shut itself down!
Since that time i have reset the phone and kept it completly standard...what a difference...battery last 2 days again and the phone is fast and cool!
So, moral of the story...leave it alone and just enjoy the phone as it is....if you dont you only have yourself to blaim
so endith the lesson
You just made today's most stupid post...
I agree with you 99%
The other 1% of me wants you to join Apple's walled garden
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You just made today's most stupid post...
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+1
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DocRambone said:
You just made today's most stupid post...
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I speak the truth..you just dont want to admit it!
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You just made today's most stupid post...
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Disagree. I think OP made sense - people sometimes mess up their phones. It is a toy for most of us, or a hobby, or an addiction
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I agree with you 99%
The other 1% of me wants you to join Apple's walled garden
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You only have to look at the number of problems post about
Its not the phone 90% of the time but the user!
Dont get me wrong im all for changing my phone to the way i want it etc but all it ever does is bugger the thing up!
If the phone is left as it comes out of the shop then the chance of problem is far reduced.
This phone has been refined so far that in standard form there very little wrong with it. Problems arise when we start messing with it to much.
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I speak the truth..you just dont want to admit it!
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Another noob that thinks he knows the best...
kreoXDA said:
Disagree. I think OP made sense - people sometimes mess up their phones. It is a toy for most of us, or a hobby, or an addiction
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Some people just dont want to accept thats the case.
If you want to get a phone and tinker around with it adding here and taking away there then fine...just dont then come on here complaining about the phone and making it look bad...its a great phone....if you leave it alone lol!
Sometimes I wish I could reach into the Internet and strangle people. This is one such occasion.
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Another noob that thinks he knows the best...
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I was thinking the same!
Just my opinion though if you dont like it then fine but the point of forums like this is people have there say...
what makes you think you know best?
hpsauce37 said:
I was thinking the same!
Just my opinion though if you dont like it then fine but the point of forums like this is people have there say...
what makes you think you know best?
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I know that every phone has bugs... even the sgs 2...
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Sometimes I wish I could reach into the Internet and strangle people. This is one such occasion.
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Based upon what?
you disagree?
if so why...if its the phone thats at fault all the time then why bother with one?
You think the user is never the cause of problems with the phone? Is that because we are all technical geniuses?
do not fight guys.
most phones have bugs.
if you give the user too much freedom, the user will abuse it, tarnish the brand, and you will pick up the bill (Jobs' very successful business model)
and yeah, Doc is a power to be reckoned with
can we all be friends please
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I know that every phone has bugs... even the sgs 2...
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I agree and i never said it was perfect
but this phone is so much better than many and all the niggles are getting sorted the more android and samsung develops.
The point i was making is that the majority of problems on here are not because of some minor bug...more likely down to user error or the result of other apps etc that have been added.
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I agree and i never said it was perfect
but this phone is so much better than many and all the niggles are getting sorted the more android and samsung develops.
The point i was making is that the majority of problems on here are not because of some minor bug...more likely down to user error or the result of other apps etc that have been added.
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Can you show me this "majority of problems" caused by the users?
kreoXDA said:
do not fight guys.
most phones have bugs.
if you give the user too much freedom, the user will abuse it, tarnish the brand, and you will pick up the bill (Jobs' very successful business model)
and yeah, Doc is a power to be reckoned with
can we all be friends please
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Like i said its just my opinion...
Im sure Doc is very good at what he does and i have never questioned that...dont think we were debating that unless he thought i set down the gaunlet and was looking for a fight lol!
not the case
You're making a sweeping generalisation based on absolutely zero evidence. The worst kind of troll.
Are the Orange FC problems caused by user error? No - KE2 firmware is bugged. Is the appearance and activation of Wifi sharing user error? No, its a bug. Is the unexplained battery drain and high Android OS use user error? No.
This thread contributes absolutely nothing. It only serves to aggravate those of us with issues that we're trying to resolve. Is it a great phone? Yes. But right now it had issues. You become an early adopter, you accept that. And you try to make the product better.
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Can you show me this "majority of problems" caused by the users?
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dont want to be on here all night but lets look at the obvious...Battery life
Numerous complaints about that
im no expert and dont profess to be but from my own experience when i had lots of widgets, different launcher etc installed my phone struggled to last the day. Since my reset to standard as of now the phone is still on 78% and thats after being unplugged since 8am.
Hang on (door slams). I'll just go and buy an iPhone.
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We all love portable devices because they provide flexibility. Ironically most of the time they are being used as desktop devices and are plugged in all the time.
This is potentially a problem because batteries wear off much more faster if they are not being used enough.
There are some hints for protecting your battery:
1- Use it only when you need to
2-Don't let it get hot!!
3-Don't store it with out some charge (I think about 75% is suggested)
share your experience here,
how do you Protect your Phone Battery?
NO NO NO not again!
1) There is literally 1000 threads like this already!
2) This subject is in no particular way related to Samsung Galaxy 4S!
3) Questions belong in another section link!
PLS close this thread!
Take out the battery and put it in the fridge :laugh:
Mittaa said:
NO NO NO not again!
1) There is literally 1000 threads like this already!
2) This subject is in no particular way related to Samsung Galaxy 4S!
3) Questions belong in another section link!
PLS close this thread!
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Galaxy 4S??? Hahaha made my day
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Galaxy 4S??? Hahaha made my day
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LOL your right ... just made my day too
really?
Mittaa said:
NO NO NO not again!
1) There is literally 1000 threads like this already!
2) This subject is in no particular way related to Samsung Galaxy 4S!
3) Questions belong in another section link!
PLS close this thread!
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thank you a lot!
but,i just wanna know how to protect my SG4! anything wrong?
mohammad ahamad said:
thank you a lot!
but,i just wanna know how to protect my SG4! anything wrong?
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Nobody have a Samsung Galaxy S4 yet, so it's a bit early to talk about battery optimization specific to this model.
If you search XDA and The Internet you will find a lot of threads talking giving general advises about battery
mohammad ahamad said:
We all love portable devices because they provide flexibility. Ironically most of the time they are being used as desktop devices and are plugged in all the time.
This is potentially a problem because batteries wear off much more faster if they are not being used enough.
There are some hints for protecting your battery:
1- Use it only when you need to
2-Don't let it get hot!!
3-Don't store it with out some charge (I think about 75% is suggested)
share your experience here,
how do you Protect your Phone Battery?
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I agree with you,and for me,I generally charge the phone when it reminds me low battery rather than charge it until it has no battery.
Yeah, the batteries only last for around 1000 full charge cycles and cost a MASSIVE $20 to replace.
I'm thinking I'll only use my phone twice a day for 5 minutes and only ever discharge the battery to 25% and only ever charge it to 75!,!!
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$20? Not for oem
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Take out the battery and put it in the fridge :laugh:
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some persons may here this and laugh but funny enough this makes perfect sense because the fridge keep the battery cells alive.
Good one bro! :highfive:
Galaxy 4s???
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Better not use it when charging D *myth* lol )
$6 anker. Useless thread. Drama!
i dont care about the battery if you have 800$ to buy one of these phones then sou have 50$ for an battery pack too.
BTW Its the same with apps i know 3 people who buyed an sgs 3 but dont want to spend on apps.
Look at this! :-o
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ger-degree-burns-smelling-like-burnt-pig.html
Look at this
[DISCUSSION] Blasting Galaxy S III 's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356903
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Look at this! :-o
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...ger-degree-burns-smelling-like-burnt-pig.html
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Hahahahahaha........It's in the Daily Mail and you ACTUALLY believed it?!!!
my God samsung works with a terorist orginization
kids and their chinese batteries
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Hahahahahaha........It's in the Daily Mail and you ACTUALLY believed it?!!!
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So the story is false and the phone is OK? I feel so stupid.
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So the story is false and the phone is OK? I feel so stupid.
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I was joking....the daily mail is notoriously full of sh*t!
It's a fault with battery, not the phone, and bottom line is that for every million batteries sold there is bound to be the odd faulty one....not a big worry
I wish mine would explode it might explode and extra gig of ram
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I was joking....the daily mail is notoriously full of sh*t!
It's a fault with battery, not the phone, and bottom line is that for every million batteries sold there is bound to be the odd faulty one....not a big worry
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I never understand those comments. If it really was full of **** it wouldn't be allowed to continue publishing.
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I never understand those comments. If it really was full of **** it wouldn't be allowed to continue publishing.
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Ok, well let's start with ...."everybody on benefits is a scrounger".......discuss!
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Ok, well let's start with ...."everybody on benefits is a scrounger".......discuss!
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Not wanting to get off topic, but what context was that being used in? Was it simply quoting someone's or quoting what many people have a misconception about? Do you have a link to the article?
Many times a controversial headline is given its usually actually a quote or taking about popular belief rather than staying out as a fact.
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Not wanting to get off topic, but what context was that being used in? Was it simply quoting someone's or quoting what many people have a misconception about? Do you have a link to the article?
Many times a controversial headline is given its usually actually a quote or taking about popular belief rather than staying out as a fact.
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I would say pretty much the same context as my comment was made!
I'm not here to argue, if you want to be seen as a supporter of a right wing neo-fascist paper like The Mail, whilst inhabiting a multi cultural global village like XDA then fair enough, not my place to judge!
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Not wanting to get off topic, but what context was that being used in? Was it simply quoting someone's or quoting what many people have a misconception about? Do you have a link to the article?
Many times a controversial headline is given its usually actually a quote or taking about popular belief rather than staying out as a fact.
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It's not shown on your profile, but I guess you're not British? The Daily Mail have a credibility less than zero. The press in general in this country basically do what they like to scare or shock people.. The Daily Mail is the king of these cretins.
Watch this very amusing, but also very correct song about the things the Daily Mail has ACTUALLY said causes cancer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPEzM2oV-PY
But I have seen no evidence. Just some *****ing but no actual proof. They must be reporting properly otherwise they wouldn't exist and they must have a substantial fan base otherwise they wouldn't bother.
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That's not the kind of exploding fanny(UK) I like to see.
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But I have seen no evidence. Just some *****ing but no actual proof. They must be reporting properly otherwise they wouldn't exist and they must have a substantial fan base otherwise they wouldn't bother.
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Well if you consider the Daily Sport claiming Hitler was alive and well and living on the moon......you get the picture
And yes, they have a substantial fan base.......alright, it's not as big as the number of people that fall over laughing at the twisted, racist, misogynistic outlook of those fans, but I guess there are enough to support its daily production..........sadly
Your starter for 10
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2192332
And some more
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/daily-mail-olympic-plastic-brits.html?m=1
riso123 said:
But I have seen no evidence. Just some *****ing but no actual proof. They must be reporting properly otherwise they wouldn't exist and they must have a substantial fan base otherwise they wouldn't bother.
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Reporting properly is irrelevant, selling advertising is the only thing that matters.
They have no accountability because they hold so much power. Recently there was a huge scandal when it was discovered that journalists had been breaking the law by hacking peoples voicemail to get stories; this had some shocking consequences and our parliament commissioned an independent report, the Levison Enquiry, on how the press could be prevented from acting in this way again. Upon publication of this report, Rupert Murdoch pressured our Prime Minister in to basically ignoring ALL the recommendations in it, and the press continue to just make stuff up to sell papers or to undermine people they dislike, usually for money or commercial gain. Disgusting as it is, we the people can have no control over it because they hold all the power.
You are correct, they do have a lot of readers. They buy it because of the righteous indignation they feel when they read the printed nonsense.
What country are you from?
(sorry for the political rant on xda, have never done that before!!)
The Onion >>>> The Daily Mail
By what I've been reading from the Daily Mail in the last few minutes, one might as well read news from The Onion and take it seriously.
Simonetti2011 said:
The Onion >>>> The Daily Mail
By what I've been reading from the Daily Mail in the last few minutes, one might as well read news from The Onion and take it seriously.
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Correct - they are despicable.