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Cyanogenmod for Vibrant? How close are we?

I've been following the progress of the Cyanogenmod development for the Vibrant lately and it seems to be moving pretty quickly, i.e. there already booting into the main UI, I believe. Anyway, I'm still wondering if anyone out there has even a rough estimate of when it will be available for the Vibrant? Thanks in advance.
-bobofosho123

It's done when it's done.

bobofosho123 said:
I've been following the progress of the Cyanogenmod development for the Vibrant lately and it seems to be moving pretty quickly, i.e. there already booting into the main UI, I believe. Anyway, I'm still wondering if anyone out there has even a rough estimate of when it will be available for the Vibrant? Thanks in advance.
-bobofosho123
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Some time in the near, or distant future. One of Cyanogens pet peeves are people asking when it will be there whenever they are able to get it done. All of the dev's have loved ones, jobs etc. We can give estimates all day long ranging from early September to late October/November. Sadly the only ones that do know would be Wes.

talltexan said:
Some time in the near, or distant future. One of Cyanogens pet peeves are people asking when it will be there whenever they are able to get it done. All of the dev's have loved ones, jobs etc. We can give estimates all day long ranging from early September to late October/November. Sadly the only ones that do know would be Wes.
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thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.

bobofosho123 said:
thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.
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We don't even know if 6.1 will be in store for us.
6.0 update from Cyanogen
Things that aren’t in 6.0. but may be in 6.1
Vibrant support
Wimax, HDMI, or FM radio on the EVO
Apps2EXT
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bobofosho123 said:
thanks for the reply, I know all of the devs have other obligations, i.e. there lives. I'm in no huge hurry for froyo, although it would be very nice, I'll just wait for the official update if it ever comes.
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if you arent in a hurry for it then why are you asking for an eta? why dont you go and try to get it working? if you dont contribute anything dont expect stuff from people, no one owes you anything.

98classic said:
if you arent in a hurry for it then why are you asking for an eta? why dont you go and try to get it working? if you dont contribute anything dont expect stuff from people, no one owes you anything.
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I obviously care, and I would like it soon, but I'm not going to hound Wes or any other devs about it, and I don't think posting a question in a thread counts. I'm not a dev and I can't code, so the best I can do is beta/alpha test, and if no one helps me that's perfectly fine.

*1 in the annointing. Cyanogen ftw..
Lovellkid

lol nice I think were about 3 weeks away from a release considering we will get the update then, and the rest will follow after that ...
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Col.Kernel said:
Looking in the mirror as you speak?
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Man I really started one hell of a flame war here, lol .

Honestly Im in NO big hurry for CM6 to come to the Vibrant. I mean I have two other devices running CM6 so I'm enjoying the fact that Vibrant ROMs for now are something of a different nature.
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talltexan said:
Kings in waiting, we are waiting for Cyanogen to anoint us.
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What is soo good bout cyanogen
Does he make goood firmware updates?
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While I understand no one wants to give an ETA, but it would be nice to know if it is 20, 50, 60 percent done for example.
I dont see the problem asking this question

tribalb said:
Lol I was being flamed in the fm radio thread just shooting a suggestion. Can we get a rant and rave section and piss each other off. Personally im liking the TW ui. If any ROM comes out still holding the TW ui then ill be happy. Otherwise im just sticking to what I have.
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What draws you to the UI? cause ADW has the sides scrolling option that TW does but you can use themes and such.

Ive seen the adw drawer. It is very similar and I like the convience of the scrolling bottom on the home screen. But im not too sure of stability. I heavily modded my g1. And from time to time I would get force closes. Im trying to minimize the mods on this phone. The adw drawer is not bad. But right now its not something I want on the phone
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The TW drawer is nice, on my phone ADW doesn't load right. When I first go to the tray it gets stuck in a loop where it keeps wanting to load the tray it just can't. After about 5 tries it usually loads. The stock icon's look better than the adw galaxy s theme, and even when I say use stock icons it doesn't use the phones stock icons.

aawww, I missed a flame war.
What's a good flame without little old me?
lol jp
I like TW too.
I like some of the samsung apps over the stock ones.
I'm not as interested in CM6 as I am in Froyo Period.
I would like to see a sense rom, but i doubt that will happen.

Thread closed and cleaned up.

G2 ROMs

Ok obviously we don't have any now, but I wanted to get the ball rolling.
The only rom I personally would like is a vanilla one with all the google stuff not pre installed!
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I want the Desire Z rom, never played with sense, would like to try it out

I want a Gingerbread ROM. What's the hold up guys?? Come on already! hehe
Seriously, though. Vanilla, pre-rooted 2.2.1 with tethering/hot-spot would be sweet.

Cyanogen Rom pls

Desire Z ROM please, rooted!

Just Got My Phone And Its A Really Smooth Phone.
I have have The G1, MT3G Slide, and now the Android G2.
The G2 is way smoother then all of the rest.
I would just like all the google crap removed.
I want CyanogenMod and be able to tether

Vanilla is fine with me, I just want root to run Wireless Tether

Usb tether(not pdanet) would make me happy, that's the only reason I root.
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Just got my phone yay. But I don't care to much for roms just want root for now. And I love how the phone feels not to heavy not 2 light
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All if you guys think like me
@tubaking
Usb tether is cool, but why not wireless tether like the one that's available on the google codes page?
@PolishDude @SuperDave81 @RaffieKol
If I could try the Desire rom with all the bloatware removed, I'm game because I absolutely love sense. I went and downloaded Beautiful Widgets along with Beautiful Live Weather just so I can somewhat emulate the HTC Sense Weather/Clock
@f231f
I am definitely feeling a vanilla rom, no google stuff unless I want to install it and root so I can install Wireless Tether from google
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tep065 said:
Cyanogen Rom pls
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Can't wait!
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I don't think this will please the devs... first off posting this here in the development section wasn't the best choice. second you'll get whatever ROM the Dev decides to make.. stop asking for this and that... right know the focus shouldn't be on what you want in a ROM but to get the phone rooted first.

I would really like the sence rom on this baby IMO sence works better for me. But tethering is a must
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ceas909 said:
I don't think this will please the devs... first off posting this here in the development section wasn't the best choice. second you'll get whatever ROM the Dev decides to make.. stop asking for this and that... right know the focus shouldn't be on what you want in a ROM but to get the phone rooted first.
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If this was the wrong place to post this then I apologize and would greatly appreciate it if a mod would move it to the correct section. As far as the developers not liking what is being said here, they don't have to do it. This forum isn't one dictating what they should do, but merely what we would like to see done. Regardless of what they put out, people will flash their roms. I seriously don't think that they would get offended over what was said here.
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dynamikd said:
If this was the wrong place to post this then I apologize and would greatly appreciate it if a mod would move it to the correct section. As far as the developers not liking what is being said here, they don't have to do it. This forum isn't one dictating what they should do, but merely what we would like to see done. Regardless of what they put out, people will flash their roms. I seriously don't think that they would get offended over what was said here.
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I never said they would be offended. These Dev's do this on their free time and starting a thread asking for what people want in a ROM for a phone thats yet to be rooted is not to bright. Focus on rooting the phone first, because with out root devs cant make roms for it. From what Ive seen some Dev's start to feel unappreciated when people ask for so much, some people don't understand that this isn't the Dev's day job. its a past time activity for them.

ceas909 said:
its a past time activity for them.
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Plus, apparently they are time travelers!
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ceas909 said:
I never said they would be offended. These Dev's do this on their free time and starting a thread asking for what people want in a ROM for a phone thats yet to be rooted is not to bright. Focus on rooting the phone first, because with out root devs cant make roms for it. From what Ive seen some Dev's start to feel unappreciated when people ask for so much, some people don't understand that this isn't the Dev's day job. its a past time activity for them.
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I never said it was their day job nor did I say it was something that is owed to us. If developers have issues with us saying what we want in a rom, they wouldn't ask us for our suggestions and heed them when we make them. So you, who aren't the mouth piece for developers, should let them speak for themselves concerning their feelings about their roms. And for you to say that me creating this post about what people would like to see in a rom isn't "bright", well that remark wasn't bright seeing as this is an open forum and I can create topic(s) about anything I want so long as it fall under the sites guidelines. If you have an issue with what's being said here, then don't post here. If you have absolutely no desire of anything specific in a rom, then why waste your time coming to a post pertaining to that? If your a mod, then delete the post, if not, then I am going ask that you stop posting comments that don't pertain to the topic at hand.
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well how about that sexy desire z 10second boot time, on a modified stock g2 rom with the usual cyanogen speed increases that we always get and tethering.. anything else can be done with an app or home replacement, this phones plenty fast.. once we get rooted, overclock to 1ghz and just wait for faster roms lol this threads pointless as we dont even have a root right now.

I second this. T-Mobile over did it with it seems EVERY Google app pre-installed.

mistabroadway said:
I second this. T-Mobile over did it with it seems EVERY Google app pre-installed.
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You are speaking the truth. I turned on my device and there were google products that I wasn't familiar with. I actually made a google folder and dumped all of them into it.
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[$$$$$]Honeycomb Port

I am going to donate 20$ for whom releases honeycomb for us
Closed until furthur notice.
regrets if inconvienience caused.

Haha. I'm with you. Seriously.
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I'm.gonna donate 10. Who will give less for so sweet tomb? ;-)
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Is HoneyTomb some new game?
If you mean HoneyComb then you're going to be waiting until there's something official to work from unless you want a virtually useless SDK build. As yet it's not out there.

wait will come. how long you purchased sgt. ;-)
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May I suggest changing the thread title to [Bounty] Honeycomb Port? The title "Bounty" is more consistent with other bounty threads I've seen here on XDA.
Once official is released (not SDK), I have $40 for a working CDMA port.

All I gotta say is, how in the world does the nook get a honeycomb port and we're left in the dust.....wtf! Thats an ebook reader
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Obvisouly a very open and easy platform to mod. Hopefully After the 2nd we will have something to work w/.

knightnz said:
Is HoneyTomb some new game?
If you mean HoneyComb then you're going to be waiting until there's something official to work from unless you want a virtually useless SDK build. As yet it's not out there.
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Ahhh... i assume you haven't seen the development on the nook color honeycomb port then

knightnz said:
Is HoneyTomb some new game?
If you mean HoneyComb then you're going to be waiting until there's something official to work from unless you want a virtually useless SDK build. As yet it's not out there.
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That's not true. You can get make a working rom from SDK builds, but it'll (probably) be laggy and a lot of things won't work as it should. The wonders they've done on the Nook is amazing IMHO. Hats off to them.
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I will put some dollars in for this.

If someone ports honeycomb to the Galaxy tab, I will first buy a Galaxy tab immediately... and then donate to whoever did it!

I'll throw £20 into this!

urbanengine1 said:
Ahhh... i assume you haven't seen the development on the nook color honeycomb port then
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Oh I've seen it. Whilst impressive, it's still a glorified tech demo. It's certainly not very useful as a full system.
GANJDROID said:
That's not true. You can get make a working rom from SDK builds, but it'll (probably) be laggy and a lot of things won't work as it should.
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Pretty sure that's basically what I said. "virtually useless" = "lot of things won't work as it should". The usual suspects of GPS and Camera will be high on that list.
If people are happy with a system with very few native apps which is slow & unstable (ala the Nook "port"), then sure, go for it. Otherwise you're still going to be waiting for AOSP to drop, (which may be later today, but I'm not holding my breath), or for an official firmware to rip apart. Then someone needs to hack the hardware-specific drivers into life on the tab, might be a piece of cake if the 2.x source is friendly with the 3.0 libraries, someone more coding-minded would need to assess that one.
I'm all for someone hacking something together to have a play with to see what it looks like, I just hope people aren't expecting a release-quality port based off an SDK "demo".

plvaulter06 said:
If someone ports honeycomb to the Galaxy tab, I will first buy a Galaxy tab immediately... and then donate to whoever did it!
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Scratch that... I bought one today haha

Ill put down $25

ill give $100

I'd give and keep giving as long as development continues, I would love a fully functional honeycomb port. To be honest I'm dying to get something as smooth and fast as cyanogen on my tab cause I hate the fact that my nexus one performs better than my tab, faster, and has more features than my tablet =\ especially since the tablet has more powerful hardware. I can't wait for honeycomb and I'd freakin subscribe if there was a donation subscription.

Dont forget to watch the live stream today from the Google event.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/google-announces-android-event-for-february-2nd/
www.youtube.com/android
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I'll give $50 no joke.

Samsungs Cheap Stupidity

Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!

They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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Gavisann said:
They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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*won't
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I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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Cm7 does not have any TW.
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rootxda said:
Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!
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Try for a moment to step outside your world and look at things from the other 99% of Epic users; the ones that AREN'T on XDA and spend most of their day doing things other than flashing their phones. Even assuming that ICS works smoothly on the Epic, replacing the current GB rom with a bare stripped ICS rom would look like a downgrade to them with all the Touchwiz functions missing. Maybe some people would like that, but I think it would be a marketing mess to try and explain why they are taking away features with an update.
For those of us who are geeky enough to want a plain ICS rom, stand by for CM9, that will be here much sooner than we would get an official ICS update.

And if I see one more new thread about whether or not we get some stupid upgrade a year from now I am going to throw up all over XDA! Please put all rants in an existing ICS rant and complaints!

Cheer up !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyx6JDQCslE&ob=av3e
why worry about phone updates that much ....

You have to understand that Samsung is just lazy about the Epic. We are just recently getting a final Gingerbread build in November and it STILL has memory leaks. They would like Sprint to discontinue them.

rootxda said:
And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?!
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2.2 is working well, but the CM alpha version of 2.3 that was put out for the Moment, ran like crap, and was pretty much dropped as the devs moved on. I HIGHLY doubt that any version of ICS will run on the Samsung Moment in a decent manner
Not that I dont wish it would, just having modded the Samsung Moment for a couple years now, IMO it just doenst have enough internal space or processing power for a full blown ICS build.
Now the Epic has enough of both, if the partitions are resized, but I highly doubt that Samsung will take that route.
IMO, the only way the Epic will see ICS is with CM9. Thankfully, I feel there is a very good chance CM9 will be developed and released at some point by the CM development team

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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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OK there is some confusion here...
1. He was wrong with "can't," Samsung could remove touchwiz entirely from our phone, and put AOSP Ics, with our hardware drivers that they have access too. HTC has already done this by removing sense from a phone, so it could get gingerbread.
2. As long as there is a tutorial, any user can get used to a new ui.
3. Our phone(nor any gs phone) does not need any touchwiz at all in CM. We have to use some Samsung proprietary files, cause we cant change them.
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Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.

adelmundo said:
Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.
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Yes but its not worth the time and money for them to do that. Especially when CM9 does it for free. In my opinion, the smartest thing for them to do would be to supply the Samsung CM maintainers with the necessary drivers and sources to easily get CM9 running perfectly. Doesnt cost any money or much time and at the end of the day, the people who care are happy.

masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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So, every Epic owner who doesn't use XDA also can't handle the transition to a new UI? Not one of those several hundred users has ever had a previous phone, especially not one made by HTC or any of the several other android phone manufacturers, or a Blackberry or iPhone? If that's the case, how did I miss the rioting when Sprint released the first update to Froyo? Or GB? (The UI changed with both of those upgrades, remember?)
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And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!!
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Overpopulation must have really gotten out of control without my noticing - the last time I checked, this entire planet has a finite (in other words, limited) population...
I personally don't have a Moment, so the absolute maximum number of people (the limit, if you will) is already guaranteed to be [world population - 1] at the most (assuming every man, woman and child has a Moment except me)
So, what was that about stupidity?
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im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.

austin420 said:
im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.
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That would directly contradict the point he tried to make by using that statement - that development is still rolling on the Moment. If there were limited users in this case (since we know that there is always a limit to the number, actually stating it implies a very limited number), then that would be an argument in favor of slowing or halting development on that device due to a dwindling user base
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It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
I'm not sure though. The op need some grammer training and a better spellchecker.
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MysteryEmotionz said:
http://t.co/Re0TMQvd
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interesting ...

austin420 said:
It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
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Nicely reworded.
That said, anyone know of a link to any sort of ICS and/or CM9 in any state for the Moment?

Whats with the influx of all these roms all over?

Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant

ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...

Solution: DONT FLASH IT!

littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.
Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.
Peace.
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littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity

I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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jokersax11 said:
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...

Reread the op
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
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jokersax11 said:
Reread the op
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...

ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
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Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
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endlessevo said:
I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.

Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant

ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
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BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby?
Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.

I don't think you quite understand what kang means.
All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.
Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's
Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Yep, your probably correct
Again, not bashing anyone.
AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way

Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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sspa said:
In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
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I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.
His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.

Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
xhazk said:
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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