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[Q] I'm Confused :)

Heya,
First things first, thanks for all the devs whom are working hard, for us to have android on our devices!.
And Now, to my question.
I'm new to Android, and HD2 as well, but after lurking around these forums checking on the various builds and what not, I Still can't figure some stuff out,
I See all these builds sporting "Froyostone" "NexusLeo" "FroYo" "With Sense",
I Don't get it, I Know "Froyo" is the new version on Android OS but what the heck is Froyostone? and does NexusLeo use Froyo as well? or is it Eclair?
Please please please help me make order out of this mess
Thanks a lot!,
Hopefully we'll have A working perfect build in the months to come! .

froyo stone is froyo rom(maybe incorrect term here) developed by blackstone they are all mostly just names of liberty. need to read the info to find out what version android they are, whether the have sense or not etc

Froyo as you stated is the latest version of Android. Darkstone is the chef of the FroyoStone hence the Stone in the name. Chefs name the builds anything they want as it's there version with certain tweaks. I personally use FroyoStone v1 and it seems to be the best and most stable I've found. In order to use any of these builds properly I suggest you drop a custom rom on your HD2 before messing with any of these builds. Reading up on the stickies in the HD2 rom developing section should help you with that. Once your ready to go you can check out the stickies in the HD2 Android development on how to get going on Android. Note: Read Read Read and make sure you understand everything as flashing a rom to your phone could easily damage your device if not done right. Hope this helps.
tkato said:
Heya,
First things first, thanks for all the devs whom are working hard, for us to have android on our devices!.
And Now, to my question.
I'm new to Android, and HD2 as well, but after lurking around these forums checking on the various builds and what not, I Still can't figure some stuff out,
I See all these builds sporting "Froyostone" "NexusLeo" "FroYo" "With Sense",
I Don't get it, I Know "Froyo" is the new version on Android OS but what the heck is Froyostone? and does NexusLeo use Froyo as well? or is it Eclair?
Please please please help me make order out of this mess
Thanks a lot!,
Hopefully we'll have A working perfect build in the months to come! .
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Every Rom is like a different flavor of ice cream. Some like fast and no extra features (vanilla), some like Rocky road. Any ROM you choose will give you a taste of android, however they're are 4 basic types in my opinion.
Vanilla style: No extras, just stock android
[BUILD] [18.08.2010] [darkstone HD2Froyo V2.1]
[BUILD][14.08.2010][Xcelsior's Android FroYo V1.00
Sense Vanilla style: No extras, just stock android using htc sense
[BUILD][07.08.2010][FroyoStone Series - V1
Then the feature versions. As in more functionality, based on the Cooker's preferences.
my persona fav- [BUILD][16.08.2010][shubCRAFT CM6RC3
[BUILD][17.08.2010][mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.5b

Thanks a lot you guys! I'm a bit wiser now
I Remember last year when I Had my Diamond, development just started, and now not only is it possible, it's even stable, back when I Tried it, it was all bits and pieces
Now I Have the iPhone and I Really do love it, it's good and simple, but last week I Saw my fathers HD2 running Froyostone and that finally convinced me to get the HD2, which by itself is a good phone, but with android support it's one of the best phones i've seen in awhile, probably even better then my beloved iPhone
Thanks a lot for you kind help!

tkato said:
Thanks a lot you guys! I'm a bit wiser now
I Remember last year when I Had my Diamond, development just started, and now not only is it possible, it's even stable, back when I Tried it, it was all bits and pieces
Now I Have the iPhone and I Really do love it, it's good and simple, but last week I Saw my fathers HD2 running Froyostone and that finally convinced me to get the HD2, which by itself is a good phone, but with android support it's one of the best phones i've seen in awhile, probably even better then my beloved iPhone
Thanks a lot for you kind help!
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probably??????? how dare you....how very dare you!
I saw my brothers new iphone4 the other day, played with it for 10 minutes (i know its not long enough to properly gauge how 'good' it is )...... SOOOO glad I got the HD2 instead of the iPhone 3GS I almost bought instead.
If you get/got yourself an hd2 AND get android installed too... i dont think it will be long before you KNOW the HD2 kicks the iphones' arse IMHO
Enjoy your new phone...enjoy it even more with the little green robot installed
***smilies all over the place, calrsberg special brew will do that to a man***

but you know there working on android for iphone 3gs its already avalible for 3g and 2g .....just a fyi

thatruth132 said:
but you know there working on android for iphone 3gs its already avalible for 3g and 2g .....just a fyi
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Haha Seriously? I didnt think the two would be compatible whatsoever. The iPhones hardware is pretty lame and lacking isnt it?

thatruth132 said:
but you know there working on android for iphone 3gs its already avalible for 3g and 2g .....just a fyi
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I did not know that cheers.
But yeah as the guy above hinted at.... iphone <4 tech doesnt compare to the HD2 IMO.... Plus I got my HD2 for quite a bit less than I could have got even a 3gs for. Im happy with my decision.... hell I was happy with the HD2 pre android lol
...Cheers for the info though, I'll let my brother know but I think he likes OS4, I thought it was OK but nothing special.... android would make that phone pretty decent I reckon.

thesweeney said:
probably??????? how dare you....how very dare you!
I saw my brothers new iphone4 the other day, played with it for 10 minutes (i know its not long enough to properly gauge how 'good' it is )...... SOOOO glad I got the HD2 instead of the iPhone 3GS I almost bought instead.
If you get/got yourself an hd2 AND get android installed too... i dont think it will be long before you KNOW the HD2 kicks the iphones' arse IMHO
Enjoy your new phone...enjoy it even more with the little green robot installed
***smilies all over the place, calrsberg special brew will do that to a man***
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how very dare you! (the british comedy right?)
I would've dropped that iphone on hard surface-and pretend that i dropped it by accident...

[Q] Is it worth it?

Hey all I just got my HD2 device n I'm liking WinMo but I'm wondering if or not to try out Android as I had it on my G1 and really enjoyed it. My questions are
1. Is it worth changing to Android from WinMo?
2. What is the most stable build to download?
(I've come across a link with a build that sounds promising LINK)
3. If anything were to go wrong how would I sort it out, e.g. Bricked?
4. Is HSPL required for the change?
and finally
5. If you use Android on your HD2, is it better then using WinMo?
Thanks
Scotty

You not going to remove winmo. Android only runs off SD currently so no chance there of bricking. The build is a person choice, depends on what you like. It's reported that it has issues with the stock winmo Rom. I think it kicks winmos a$$ all over the place.
sent from my desire hd2

i just agree with squish .. and + that we are waiting for the NAND android roms

scottymacMDA said:
Hey all I just got my HD2 device n I'm liking WinMo but I'm wondering if or not to try out Android as I had it on my G1 and really enjoyed it. My questions are
1. Is it worth changing to Android from WinMo?
2. What is the most stable build to download?
(I've come across a link with a build that sounds promising LINK)
3. If anything were to go wrong how would I sort it out, e.g. Bricked?
4. Is HSPL required for the change?
and finally
5. If you use Android on your HD2, is it better then using WinMo?
Thanks
Scotty
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In the spirit of being nice I will provide some decent answers. I must say though that this is a question that has been asked many times.
Is it worth changing? To me It was worth changing. It was what I intended on doing. I dont like winmo I dont need it for professional reasons.
As far as most stable build there is none that is most stable. You will read people say this and that one is the fastest or most stable. I personally use shubcraft 1.5 and I have tried all others and "always" return to shubcraft 1.5
Hspl is only required if you have something less than radio 2.08 or you are getting robotic voices and you need to change the rom.
I am using android on my phone as a daily driver. I for one enjoy tormenting Hd2 owners who complain about their phone locking up. Is it better than winmo? I think so but like i stated before I dont like winmo so I am bias.

Evo ROM or DesireHD ROM?

I am pretty new to here, still trying to learn Andriod on HD2, just wondering what is the major difference between DesireHD and Evo ROM on HD2? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks!

i would recommend EVO builds. I don't know why but all Desire HD build i have tried, they were so laggy.

I also prefer evo. Also next time, open a thread like this in Q&A section.

Thanks, I will post the question to Q&A next time....

the desire hd builds are better because they have the new htc sense which i find to be a lot cooler than the evo sense. android 2.3 will probably have the new sense anyways though, so it wont matter soon anyways

I personally find myself reverting back to my Evo builds on a regular basis... I have several different sd cards including 2 class 6 cards and i always seem to experience lag and screen locks on hd desire builds... I experience no problems with evo roms. I just enjoy trying new roms no matter how they run. I will probably go back to an hd desire build again once i can load it from NAND .

try EVO build first... it is much stable than HD builds... then when you get boring flash and try HD builds... it has cool new features... that is what i did...
now im happy with hd build (coreHD) less laggy than other builds..

cailiting said:
I am pretty new to here, still trying to learn Andriod on HD2, just wondering what is the major difference between DesireHD and Evo ROM on HD2? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks!
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evo but next time post in HD2 Android General Discussion forums this side for devs

can give example which is EVO rom?
*too many weird name there
thanks....

My hd2 not accept any other rom version than the one that are available to me. I've done HSPL, Radio is 2.10 ..... 50_2, and everything else should be fine, yet my phone is still growing HTC logo, for example, if you start Desire HD's firmware in the card.

Neither (personal preference)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

ftamember said:
evo but next time post in HD2 Android General Discussion forums this side for devs
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I think someone already advised her of that

mobilemedio said:
My hd2 not accept any other rom version than the one that are available to me. I've done HSPL, Radio is 2.10 ..... 50_2, and everything else should be fine, yet my phone is still growing HTC logo, for example, if you start Desire HD's firmware in the card.
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Did you allow it to create a data image or add one to the Android folder? Sometimes you have to give it anywhere from 2 minutes to 20. Anything over 20 reformat the sd card and try again.

Let me pile on, the DesireHD ROMs just aren't there yet. The new HTC Sense items in DesireHD are really nice, but not worth the long lag times.
I've tested a lot of ROMs. The one in my sig has been by far the best combination for me. It's almost as zippy as the EVO (my daughter and wife have EVOs). What impresses me most about the ROM I'm using is it doesn't get bogged down with multitasking as much as other ROMs.
Most ROMs are fairly quick on first load. Then they quickly bog down when you load up accounts and apps. FRG83.MCCM IR V1.7.1(Incredible) with hastarin r8.5.1 kernel stays responsive.

Offcourse HD builds, much more smooth browser and goodies in magnificent text selector.
For me the browser experience is the most think to decide my choice......I wasn't using HD builds at moment because the camera faults, but now I am.

[Q] Thinking about taking the Android Plunge!

OK, after much patience and living with all the Windoze BS, I am considering re-flashing my HD2 to Android.
I currently run the Artemis ROM (Windows) and like it because all the bloatware crap that is usually in the ROMs has been removed and replaced with a miimal array of useful system features. That's what I look for in a ROM.
I know this question is frowned upon but I still need to ask... Considering my desire for a clean and fast minimalistic ROM, what are the best choices available in the Android world?
Thanks

GulDucat said:
OK, after much patience and living with all the Windoze BS, I am considering re-flashing my HD2 to Android.
I currently run the Artemis ROM (Windows) and like it because all the bloatware crap that is usually in the ROMs has been removed and replaced with a miimal array of useful system features. That's what I look for in a ROM.
I know this question is frowned upon but I still need to ask... Considering my desire for a clean and fast minimalistic ROM, what are the best choices available in the Android world?
Thanks
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look at hyperdroid or darkstone's new ram build, heard it was fast.
i used to be a fan of those fast builds but i tried mdj froyo hd build and im not looking back. sure its a little slower at times but i am a fan after the camera fix.

I think you will like hyperdroid butits kind of old ... anyhow I do recommend that you check any froyo builds since those seem to run much smoother and fluid then any sense I trie so far... waiting the 4gb card to start testing other builds but hyper paired with energy 2.5 gtx winmo rom ad 2.15.50.14 radio gives me great battery life (3-6mA) in standby of course.
Btw u cannot flash android on hd2 but put it on and run it from sd card... cheers and good luck
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I am running the Nexus One HD2 build on my phone and it works amazing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924
At the bottom of the first post, the developer posted a spreadsheet of the combos that are working...
I have two HD2's and using different combos... Two recommendations
1) get an SD card that is Class 4 or 6... Stay away from Class 2 as they have been linked with issues
2) if you get it to work.. Dont mess it with it anymore. leave it alone, I have messed up so many times doing this.. if it's not broken, dont fix it.

Welcome to the hd2 android world! I bet you won't regret it.
Considering your choices (i was a long artemis user before), you have indeed the nexus one option, not sense builds. I prefer to use a third option, the miui roms. good new is that changing build is easy like changing a folder. Have fun!

It doesn't get anymore minimalist than darkstone's new SuperRam. He shrunk that system file down to 55mb to load it in a ramdisk. It's extremely fast and completely plain froyo. I'd give that one a go first if I were you. Nice thing about not having nand, you don't have to flash anything, you don't have to mess with your winmo one bit if you don't want to.
The other one you might try if you want a bit more bells and whistles is the HD2One Cyanogen 6.1 rom, it's more current than Hyperdroid. I think hyperdroid hasn't been updated for quite a while.

How stable is android on the hd2?

Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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rogerski1 said:
Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
Sent from my Triumph using XDA App
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !

backlashsid said:
both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone

I've had my HD2 for 2 years now, and I knew nothing about rooting etc. It took me a whole day to learn, but now I can easily switch ROMs within half an hour max.
I've tried multiple Android ROMs (SD and NAND) and a WM7 ROM before the mango update, and everything works incredibly smooth and fully-functional. It's actually even better than the original Windows Mobile OS, so I'd highly recommend giving it a fiddle! Trust me, you can't really go wrong if you follow all the right advice (stickies have all the good stuff!)
Once you get going I think you'll really love the variety of builds and find one that you're comfortable with. Enjoy!

Awesome! Thanks guys, sounds like its a go then! I may even be wanting one for myself!
Sent from my Triumph using XDA App

Well it all depends on which rom/settings/tweaks you use but in general Android is more stable and runs better on the HD2 then most native Android devices!
cmacia06 said:
I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
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You dont "root" the HD2.

I'm using CM7_Tweaked-2.0.0-LEO and radio 2.15.50.14. I would not describe it as very stable and I cannot get the radio to do 3g or H. Perhaps my expectationa are too high and I'm sure it is more stable on Android than Windows, but I am not happy with it.

I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM

Android on the hd2 in my opinion runs better on this device than some devices that are launched with it.
Load up NexusHD 2.3.7 and you or your wife won't look back.
Sent from my HD2

spitzer.fr said:
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
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Well you are not going to find out unless you try them. Also "2.3.5. NAND" means absolutely nothing as that isnt rom specific, that is just a version number of Android OS.
In my experience the most stable version without needing tweaks/extra setup etc is the NexusHD2 roms by tytung (Froyo) and (Gingerbread) and they are as close to stock Android as you will get.
I am addicted to trying new roms though and have started to really like the MIUI based roms but am currently testing the new NexusHD2 ICS base.

HD2 forever ...
I have an EU and a from about 2 month a TMOUS:
- EU with MIUI 2.37a stable ... hard daily use, it rocks!!!
- TMOUS to try other roms with sense (big internal space required, i hate app2sd ) and tried 3 different version of ICS for now without any problem!!!
I have thought about changing them for a real android but ... i love modding ... so no chance for other model for now
A quick reply? Buy a TMOUS
Cheers

Roms
Since you have tried many different roms, have you found a sense 3.5 that can play 720p video? Mwakious 3.5 does not

HD2 was build for Android, delivering it with WM6.5 was a joke!