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HD2 or Desire

I know u ppl got tired of this question , but since I'm ordering new phone these days , I dunno which one to choose.
My vote will go to HD2 , since I heard there will be Android on it aswell (that was my main reason why I even thought about Desire).
I hope you kind ppl can help me solve my "problem"
Cheers,
Alex

Just get a Desire, the HD2 will never run Android as stable day-to-day as phone a designed to run the OS.

Kalavere said:
Just get a Desire, the HD2 will never run Android as stable and as day as phone designed to run the OS.
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Like I thought so, thanks for your reply.
EDIT : Also , other replies are welcome too

depends on what you need most, big screen or android.

Both , but Android on 1st place.

The Desire HD or HTC Ace is due in October basicly a HTC EVO for GSM, it may be worth waiting till that comes out before you buy...
Personally, I will jump to Android when this phone arrives, I'm done (after many years) with WM ...

Thanks for reply , I just can't wait 'till October , but thanks anyway.

pHOBIAZ7 said:
Both , but Android on 1st place.
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if android is your top priority, why is this even a debate???
There has not been one instance of Android as a primary OS on any WinMo phone to date. And that is after, what, 2 years of trying.

Don't let the aesthetics of the HD2 fool you. If your main concern is the OS, then go ahead and get the Desire. No question about it. Android will never be running 100% on the HD2 and if you're not accustom to winmo in general (which mean countless head-scratching as you're trying to make it work), you're screwed.

Then I guess imma buy Desire.
Thanks for feedback.

Actually I'm using desire ROM on hd2, working fine, they made Android really batter in a few days.. think of the advantage of a dual boot
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Hmmm , does it have any glitches / bugs w.e ?
Cuz I don't want my phone to freeze or something , and its brand new.

You bet it does. I am an ex-owner of an HD2 and I swear to God that if the guys from the service center will give me a new HD2, I`ll say "no, thanks... what about a desire?" without having any second thoughts.
Personally, I`m done with the HD2. Full of bugs/freezes/etc, and I might say that I`m not quite the average apple fanboy who wants everything to work out-of-the-box. I love tweaking and hacking, but only to an extent.

pHOBIAZ7 said:
I know u ppl got tired of this question , but since I'm ordering new phone these days , I dunno which one to choose.
My vote will go to HD2 , since I heard there will be Android on it aswell (that was my main reason why I even thought about Desire).
I hope you kind ppl can help me solve my "problem"
Cheers,
Alex
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my girfriend has the htc desire. in my opinion it has only 2 advantages over my hd2: better screen sensitivity and a brighter/more colorful screen (which i find not very natural anyway...).
the hd2 can run android now, it has a larger screen (with more natural colors) and i'm not willing to give up on wm just yet. android is very finger friendly, tons of apps and a more "secure" future ahead but i got bored with it very quickly.
so to make things short, i recommend to go with the hd2 or wait for something else...
oh, forgot to mention - your experience with the hd2 is highly dependent to the rom/radio/location "trinity". i am very happy with mine

I really wanna say: get the HD2.
An Android ROM should be made available in another month or two and with all the development behind the HD2 (on XDA of course!), it might even run Android better than the Desire some day. And who knows, the HD2 might be ported to WP 7 some time next year.
How about them apples?

nzxtneo said:
I really wanna say: get the HD2.
An Android ROM should be made available in another month or two and with all the development behind the HD2 (on XDA of course!), it might even run Android better than the Desire some day. And who knows, the HD2 might be ported to WP 7 some time next year.
How about them apples?
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I serverly doubt there will be a flashable ROM for the HD2, read here, Zarathustrax has a good knowledge of Android ports.

Kalavere said:
I serverly doubt there will be a flashable ROM for the HD2, read here, Zarathustrax has a good knowledge of Android ports.
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what are the two phones that have flashable roms

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what are the two phones that have flashable roms
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I haven't a clue my friend, Zarathustrax is the man to ask.

I think you should get the HD2. What can the Desire do that that the HD2 can't? And that massive screen dweebs out any other phone on the market. Plus the HD2 is cheaper than the Desire.

If HD2 will get a Stable and fast Android rom.....go to HD2....you will have two SO on a big, big screen.
but just if will have android stable...in contrary....

Time to upgrade

Now i've been on this forum a while tho i've not posted much thats because i actually use the search button lol
but now im just after peoples opinions.
What should i go for the Desire or the HD2 with a Froyo Port on it
Firstly im buying the phone outright no contract i prefer sim only and im used to flashing phones I've been doing my TYTN II for years now so that's not a put off in fact is it only me that gets existed when a new build comes out from the developer lol
but im more interested how the hd2 handles with android from you people that use it and batter life too i would like to know real peoples opinions on that.
anyway thanks for taking the time to read
Regards
Wappy
note: i was going for a desire but i decided to look at the builds for the HD2 and they have come along way, so its thrown in a lot of confusion again lol

I would say if android is top of your list, then go for an android device. I think the android ports on here are great, I play about with the 2.2 froyo build of darkstones, but only really to get an android fix and just because i can really lol but i still like windows 6.5 to use everyday.
There are still bugs to be ironed out and the battery life isn't great at all yet on the hd2 android builds (don't get me wrong though is brilliant whats been achieved so far!)
I would advise you to have a look at the Samsung galaxy S if your after an android device as this is sort of the closest thing to hd2 sort of layout, just not as good quality.
It is a tough one though mate because the HD2 is a cracking device to run either platform!

100% Functional ROM

I'm currently using a Vibrant (rooted, flashed, blah blah) but I've been looking into getting an HD2 to play with now that they're going for dirt cheap on craigslist. Before I do this, could anyone tell me if there are any 100% functional android roms out? I had an hd2 when it first came out, and wasn't a winmo fan. At all. But now that there's been a lot of progress made, I'm willing to give it another try.

No... there are currently no Android ROMs for the HD2. you still need a Windows Mobile ROM and run Android off of the SD
Please refer to the Android Development section in the other HD2 area for Android builds and news regarding Android development.

Nope, there is no a 100% working build yet. All android builds have users reporting SOD, long wake up time, and other issues like low in call volume levels.

Alright, thank you both. As for winmo, one of my main concerns was the lag in texting, using sense, etc. Have any steps been taken to improve these issues? I would search the forums if I could, but I'm getting a pretty lousy connection here in my building. Also, I didn't get very good 3g on my HD2. Have any connection fixes come out?

To answer your questions, No and Yes(Maybe). Texting through the HTC client is still as slow as ever, but if you disable it and use the regular WinMo text program everything is gravy. And the connection issues are probobly just your area, but you can always flash a new Radio ROM and see if it helps any.

OHHitsKB said:
I'm currently using a Vibrant (rooted, flashed, blah blah) but I've been looking into getting an HD2 to play with now that they're going for dirt cheap on craigslist. Before I do this, could anyone tell me if there are any 100% functional android roms out? I had an hd2 when it first came out, and wasn't a winmo fan. At all. But now that there's been a lot of progress made, I'm willing to give it another try.
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Wow are stories are exactly the same! I had a HD2 the first week they came out then sold it because of WinMo. I also bought a Vibrant and still have it (Rooted and playing with ROMS). I now bought a HD2 to play with and experiment with ROMS and Android on it.

OHHitsKB said:
I'm currently using a Vibrant (rooted, flashed, blah blah) but I've been looking into getting an HD2 to play with now that they're going for dirt cheap on craigslist. Before I do this, could anyone tell me if there are any 100% functional android roms out? I had an hd2 when it first came out, and wasn't a winmo fan. At all. But now that there's been a lot of progress made, I'm willing to give it another try.
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The world will never know!

I can tell you that there is an offical 3.15 tmo rom out there as a RC. I've put it on several phones and so far can state that it has cured all problems we've experienced with the HD2.
I need to test swype+text tho, forgot about that one!!

Official 3.15 ROM eh? Where is the link?

Actually it's 3.14, and still officially in testing phase, although it's more of a release candidate. Splash screen says "Test, not for sale" and all that.
So "official" was a bad choice of a word, but I did get it directly from TMO.

I too own the Vibrant and got an HD2 to play around with. The HD2 is nice, but I love my Vibrant, and would never use the HD2 as a primary phone until a complete Android port is available. Nice hardware, just a POS OS. I am curious to see what the update brings to WinMo on the HD2. It goes without saying that I am anxiously awaiting a 100% functional Droid ROM on this thing.

See, its people like this that bring WinMo down for no reason. WinMo, especially on the HD2 is no "POS OS". WinMo runs circles around Android as far as compatability and open-ness is concerned. Android may look "nicer"(if looking like Ubuntu is nice...), but WinMo has it where it counts...*cough no rooting to access file system cough*.

See, its people like this that bring WinMo down for no reason. WinMo, especially on the HD2 is no "POS OS". WinMo runs circles around Android as far as compatability and open-ness is concerned. Android may look "nicer"(if looking like Ubuntu is nice...), but WinMo has it where it counts...*cough no rooting to access file system cough*.
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You are joking right? Anyway...didn't mean to offend anyone. The HD2 is a nice phone.

kmdub said:
You are joking right? Anyway...didn't mean to offend anyone. The HD2 is a nice phone.
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Have you tried installing Cookies Home Tab Editor on your HD2? It's free and makes a Winmo phone have the same functionality as Android with all of the icons, widgets, etc. Supports multiple pages of icons with a home screen just like Android, but also with the sweet Windows mobile stuff as well. Double the awesome. Check it out if you haven't.
WinMo is just a little more nerdy in terms of customization compared to the Iphone and Android. There is a lot to learn and if you aren't at least semi computer savvy and into nerding out on your phone (reading a lot), it's not the phone for you. I wouldn't recommend it for my 60 year old mom.
Mostly, Winmo phones aren't awesome out of the box usually. In terms of out of the box, the HD2 is the best winmo phone that I've seen. Sense is clean.
I have an HD2, Jailbroken Iphone and a Rooted G1 and have played with newer Android devices. The HD2 is by far, still the best. It just does more awesome stuff. You can customize anything on Winmo. ANYTHING.
I really like all three operating systems though. None of them suck.

Good Bye, HD2

Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I agree with you. the HD2 has been awesome with the support of the XDA community!

Yea I love the hell out of my hd2 but can't wait to get a native android phone aka htc pyramud.

yeah, HD2 is not for the faint of heart...

HTC Pyramid, here I come..

any pyramid news?
TooHot2Handle said:
HTC Pyramid, here I come..
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i love the hd2 but I am really want a native android device as well. Do you have any other sites or info on the pyramid? i am not happy with the t-mo offering so I will be switching to the mythical device should it actually appear.

yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman

chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
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Completely agree... also DesireHD is not even close to HD2... especially if you talk about battery life...

chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
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And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.

My mytouch 4g has more ram, therefore less lag. But I still bought an hd2. Simply for a 4.3" android device on tmous
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Kailkti said:
And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
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+1... completely agree there. A lot of people here didn't seem to understand that when they were always posting how the HD2 is faster than native devices... they were comparing a rooted, tweaked device to an unrooted, stock device, and thought it was a fair comparison. And many acted like other phones didn't have their own forums with custom roms and tweaks, and ports of other android phones.
If I just used Android, I would definitely love to get a native phone... but since I've been dualbooting WP7 and Android, I am going to have a very hard time deciding what new phone to get. Right now, Android is definitely capable of more, but seeing what's in store for WP7, and seeing how quickly the homebrew community is taking apart WP7 and learning to tweak and hack it, I know WP7 will catch up quick. I wouldn't be able to decide between to 2... I actually kinda prefer using WP7 as my day to day OS, but there are still too many limitations to completely stick with wp7. I can't play my psx or snes games on wp7, there's no good navigation, and many other things that are missing still. I also love being able to customize my android homescreens. So at this point I like them both about equally, and use them both about the same amount... so I'm gonna be sticking with my HD2 for a while longer... probably at least until the end of the year and I can see where each OS is at and see what hardware is available then. I'm really hoping that they start porting android to WP7 devices, so hopefully I can get a next generation device at some point that can run both OS's again... but it will probablt be a long time, if ever, that we see a device that gets modded and hacked like the HD2 did. The HD2 was a very unique device... there was never a phone that got modded as much and probably never will be again, unfortunately.

Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.

JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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dont be in any hurry. you really are not missing much. those samsung android phones do have an amazing screen though. just saying that if you are going to upgrade, make sure whatever you are getting is a worthy upgrade. flashing these custom roms and trying to find the "perfect" and "flawless" android build for our hd2's can be annoying at times but its doable..
but i guarantee, like most of us you want the most out of your device and you will end up rooting and flash custom roms on your new android smartphone just like you do now. and like many, you will also run into problems and those custom roms will always not be the most stable... just like some of these android roms for the hd2...
if you are on tmobile i would try to wait it out. see what the pyramid is all about and what other android smartphone will come out for tmo. the build quality alone makes the hd2 on a different level than most smartphones out there.

shree.cse said:
Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..

fi3ry_icy said:
u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
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I am using Imilka's glacier sense 1.3 from the last 25 days exactly from Feb3. I don't find any other build stable and better than this with sense even colourful. Thank you! I will try
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

This is truely an amazing phone, intending to keep it till the end of the year, then going for the pyramid probably, or another smartphone with Android.
But ye, again, great phone.

Got my new DesireHD, rooted and now its with Gingerbread sense 2.1
Pretty happy in upgrading from HD2
I can see a lot difference in performance on DesireHD
Very Thankful to all the Android developers.
Sent from my Desire HD

Htc hd2 is the best at least till now

JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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Yeah man i wanna do that also someday, not now No Budget!
However, we can charge our phone when they are OFF with Magldr 1.11!
Last week my battery died so i freaked out hearing/reading that it wont charge etc... I plugged it for about 4 or 5 hrs and then i switched it on and SURPRISE!! It booted and had 60% battery!
Only minor issue is that you will have to unplug-replug the battery!

i think it is about 6-7 monthes before the hd2 forum is empty like all old phones , but it was the best phone i've ever had , and won't upgrade untill a similar htc phone is released , The only thing i'll be sad about is you xda developrs and hd2 community , we will be distributed among different phons and forums

[Q] Fully functional android rom

Please don't flame me for asking this question, I've read a lot, but still have not found a definitive answer for this question.
Is there a fully functional android rom (preferably SD) gingerbread or ics, that has everything working ok with no bugs, just like an wm 6.5 rom?
I'm asking this because I'm pondering buying an used HD2 for some android goodness, and can't completely decide if it's the way to go. Since I would like everything to work smooth and stabile, for instance like my stupid iphone 3gs (please don't judge, got it as a gift years ago).
I thank you all for your replies in advance!
p.s. before this crap i had a diamond, tried probably all the roms from 2009 onwards, bricked it only twice

Most roms on here are 100% functional, I love my hd2 but my digitizer is broken
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Xtronomy said:
Most roms on here are 100% functional, I love my hd2 but my digitizer is broken
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Does the digitizer brake easily on HD2?

Digitizers on HD2 are notorious for breaking! My original HD2 which I had for three years needs a replacement. I love HD2 so much I replaced it with another one running Ansar's WP 7.8 and Boxmax Android in NativeSD. WP 7.8 works wonderfully and is my daily use OS. No problems whatsoever. My Boxmax Android is old and I need updating to its latest build but I find I rarely use it so I always put off on doing that.
By the way, I don't know if anybody has asked u yet but how'd you come about with that handle "rape_artist"? Just curious....

rape_artist said:
Please don't flame me for asking this question, I've read a lot, but still have not found a definitive answer for this question.
Is there a fully functional android rom (preferably SD) gingerbread or ics, that has everything working ok with no bugs, just like an wm 6.5 rom?
I'm asking this because I'm pondering buying an used HD2 for some android goodness, and can't completely decide if it's the way to go. Since I would like everything to work smooth and stabile, for instance like my stupid iphone 3gs (please don't judge, got it as a gift years ago).
I thank you all for your replies in advance!
p.s. before this crap i had a diamond, tried probably all the roms from 2009 onwards, bricked it only twice
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For practical use, yes.
If you look deep enough, no.
Because the HD2 was originally a Windows device some new drivers are simply not available for it.
Having said that, the Typhoon Gingerbread ROM had *everything* working. If one does not need the latest JellyBean ROM it will work flawlessly. The only things that will not work are a few newer apps written for Android 4.x and up, such as Apex or Nova launchers.
The newer ICS and JB ROMs work well but again, you can find a few 720p videos which will not play right. Netflix also has issues and will not run.
If you figure out which exception you can live without the HD2 can be a good choice.
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pharmeceutikle;38043535By the way said:
Not the way you probably assume. The good old days when i played unreal tournament 12 hours a day. One time i managed to wipe out 12 man semi professional team alone (playing over a 56k, mind you they all had dsl). One of mine team mates said they got raped, the added that i was an rape artist. The rest is history, nice childhood memories. I do have to add that it is my humble opinion, all rapist (in real life) should be (by law of course) hung from a tree and whipped till they die...
Back on topic. Since i find it useless opening a new topic on wp subforum, i would like to ask you also are there any fully functional windows phone roms? I know they had some big issues a while ago.
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Ansar's WP Rom is fully functional! Everything working. I have not tried any of the others b/c I heard there were some problems with BT and headset. I never had any problems with mine. It's been running like butter for over 3-4 months. I haven't updated it cuz I felt no need to.

so would it be a good deal if I could trade in my Iphone directly for an HD2 with no exchange of cash?

rape_artist said:
so would it be a good deal if I could trade in my Iphone directly for an HD2 with no exchange of cash?
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if it were me i would do it