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Benefits of using 'lite' roms

From my understanding when you launch haret.exe the windows kernel is shut down and the linux kernel is loaded in its place and the only reason we need to boot into winmo in the first place it to initialize the hardware (and we dont have a bootloader capable of flashing android roms). So since the winmo kernel is completely shut down and replaced by the linux one why does using a 'lite' rom make any difference?

JJbdoggg said:
From my understanding when you launch haret.exe the windows kernel is shut down and the linux kernel is loaded in its place and the only reason we need to boot into winmo in the first place it to initialize the hardware (and we dont have a bootloader capable of flashing android roms). So since the winmo kernel is completely shut down and replaced by the linux one why does using a 'lite' rom make any difference?
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im wondering this to cause i see no advantage, my android runs good off all roms i tried. No SOD, or other problems.

i dun really understand it too.. but when i was using my custom rom for winmo dail use my notification LED would light up when i am in android..
after i flashed to chuckydroid lite rom, the LED blinking bug disappeared..

It's the speed that makes the whole difference. It used to take me about 2 min to reboot artemis rom and another 2~3 min to boot into android.
With NRG barbone rom it only takes me about 1 min for both tasks above.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using TapaTalk

I had SOD with all Android ROMS and Zimage files until I stated usings chucky's rom, which is an extremely stripped down WM rom.
Not exactly sure why this works better, but from my understanding, WM will shutdown when you load Haret, but the the drivers and hardware configuration booted from windows will be used to run linux. I'm thinking the lite ROM load only what's necessary and and load fewer hardware configurations.

juicecultus said:
It's the speed that makes the whole difference. It used to take me about 2 min to reboot artemis rom and another 2~3 min to boot into android.
With NRG barbone rom it only takes me about 1 min for both tasks above.
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I guess im lucky cause i get good speed booting to and running android on all roms i tried, no sod either.

ive never had problems with sleep of death (although i did have speedy issues) with any rom ive used with android (which is a lot) however i do see it makes a huge difference for some people so i guess ive found my answer

Full vs Lite WinMo rom's when running android

Hi everyone
What is peoples oppinion on full winmo roms like VBN or Energy and also using Android? Or do you go for the lite versions which should be more Android friendly?
Currently i am running VBN Droid Rom but i am missing a few features in the lite versions... Wondering to go back to the full roms but just thought i would ask around what your experience is with the full winmo roms compared to the lite ones
Thank you all

radio and rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651729 is a great full tweaked rom that works perfect with android!! give it a try youll love it!! i used lite roms for android and the elegancia works just as good! more important than the rom is the radio it will make all the difference! 2.12.50.2_02 works best for most http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787!!!

i use a full windows rom and dont see any need to swap

Richy99 said:
i use a full windows rom and dont see any need to swap
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Ditto here.

Always been an Energy Rom user, but thought I would give ChuckyDroid a go, as basically using Android as my day to day OS.
I found that with ChuckyDroid I was having more screen freezes and hard freezes (pull the battery), so switched back to Energy.
I believe there isn't much difference between the full and lite roms when running Android, its just down to personal experience and what works for you best.
As long as the Rom is Android friendly, and has the correct files cooked in to stop Robovoice etc, you won't see much difference apart from mainly the boot up speed if your booting straight into Android. As there was a considerable difference booting to Android using ChuckyDroid compared to Energy. ChuckyDroid was lightening quick.
Energy Aug 28th Radio 2.12
Bangsters 1.4

bobmarsh72 said:
Energy Sept 28th
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Quick, what were the lottery numbers for tomorrow? Or did you not jot them down while you were in the future. J/P, I had to.

bobmarsh72 said:
Always been an Energy Rom user, but thought I would give ChuckyDroid a go, as basically using Android as my day to day OS.
I found that with ChuckyDroid I was having more screen freezes and hard freezes (pull the battery), so switched back to Energy.
I believe there isn't much difference between the full and lite roms when running Android, its just down to personal experience and what works for you best.
As long as the Rom is Android friendly, and has the correct files cooked in to stop Robovoice etc, you won't see much difference apart from mainly the boot up speed if your booting straight into Android. As there was a considerable difference booting to Android using ChuckyDroid compared to Energy. ChuckyDroid was lightening quick.
Energy Sept 28th Radio 2.12
Bangsters 1.4
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Please define "Android friendly", or is that what chef just saying to make you feel comfortable, more confident to use with Android?
I cooked my own rom from the kitchen, I just unchecked this, unchecked that....then... you know....,I know nothing about Linux, Android, and my rom just run perfect with any Android build.
oh, I put a line says " this rom specially made to run Android", maybe that make my homemade rom "Android friendly".

juggs said:
Quick, what were the lottery numbers for tomorrow? Or did you not jot them down while you were in the future. J/P, I had to.
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My bad lol Aug 28th....
justwonder said:
Please define "Android friendly", or is that what chef just saying to make you feel comfortable, more confident to use with Android?
I cooked my own rom from the kitchen, I just unchecked this, unchecked that....then... you know....,I know nothing about Linux, Android, and my rom just run perfect with any Android build.
oh, I put a line says " this rom specially made to run Android", maybe that make my homemade rom "Android friendly".
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There are several .dll files that need to be in your build.... Im searching for the thread, as Im no expert but have read on this.
These files may already be in your base ROm when uploading, but the Roms that were having the problem with Robovoice I believe these files were added and if not fixed the problem were part of the reason it was fixed.
Edit....given up searching for the posts (so many to look through with key words such as robovoice, files, rom, android etc) but from what I can remember it was dll files taken from a stock 2.10 rom, which helped with the problem.
Edit again....Found the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757914 Actually reading back it doesn't give a definite answer if theses files did work, but it sounds like they did for pkoper.

I've tried ChuckyDroid & it was very good if you're running Android 24/7, but it's VERY lightweight. I'm using VBN now because I wanna have a usable WM rom just in case something happens to my Android installation(card dies, gets corrupted, etc.) & I'm not able to fix it right away. I've noticed no difference in performance upon switching roms. That said- I got robo-voice BAD on the stock WM rom, and it went away as soon as I flashed a custom rom.

bobmarsh72 said:
As long as the Rom is Android friendly, and has the correct files cooked in to stop Robovoice etc, you won't see much difference apart from mainly the boot up speed if your booting straight into Android. QUOTE]
I'm using a pre-Android EnergyROM for WinMo and it works fine. So not so sure about the correct files being cooked in?
One thing I've found is that Sense will get corrupted for some reason. So make sure you disable Sense (and then restart) before jumping into Android.
It'd work a few times, then on my 4th or whatever reboot into Android, Sense would decide to die. Not sure why, as Android isn't meant to interact with WinMo, but it would.
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no hspl for run android?

is HSPL needed to run android in hd2?

Do you think this is the right thread for 'question'?
Normally HSPL is needed because you need to flash the radio rom suitable to run android.

as long u using 3rd party rom u need it..

I don't believe it is "needed" to simply run Android. Now if you want it as your daily OS, I would strongly suggest it. You will be able to flash the recommended Radio / ROM combination so that you get the most functional build possible.
Without the right radio or ROM, you will have some unwelcome bugs.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

dirn1111 said:
Do you think this is the right thread for 'question'?
Normally HSPL is needed because you need to flash the radio rom suitable to run android.
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oops i'm sorry if i made mistake
do u have a recommendation which android suitable for original official hd2 rom?
harky said:
as long u using 3rd party rom u need it..
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since the day i bought hd2 until now it never been hspl yet in other word it still original official hd2 rom, here the descriptions:
os: 5.2.21869
manila: 2.5.19211619.0
rom: 1.66.707.1
radio: 2.07.51.22_2
protocol: 15.32.50.07u

I have stock T-Mobile US HD2 and I have not put HSPL or anything... it's even GSM locked to the carrier...
I managed to get FroyoStone series to work just fine; mccm build FRG33 and FRG 83 build as well... besides that I did try some builds like shubcraft or whatever the name is and it did not want to work due to screen freezes - so I just went back to mccm 1.5

sorry double post

jelliottz said:
I don't believe it is "needed" to simply run Android. Now if you want it as your daily OS, I would strongly suggest it. You will be able to flash the recommended Radio / ROM combination so that you get the most functional build possible.
Without the right radio or ROM, you will have some unwelcome bugs.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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i dont wanna use it as my daily i just wanna catch the experience using it, the games, the apps and environments
would you be kind to let me know which version of android and rom r u using?

eenbox said:
I have stock T-Mobile US HD2 and I have not put HSPL or anything... it's even GSM locked to the carrier...
I managed to get FroyoStone series to work just fine; mccm build FRG33 and FRG 83 build as well... besides that I did try some builds like shubcraft or whatever the name is and it did not want to work due to screen freezes - so I just went back to mccm 1.5
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really??wow thats sounds interesting to me
would u be kind to give the link to download the instruction and apps?

maverick_endit81 said:
i dont wanna use it as my daily i just wanna catch the experience using it, the games, the apps and environments
would you be kind to let me know which version of android and rom r u using?
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I use Chuck Droid ROM as my WinMo base. Radio 2.10.50.26. I switch between 2 Android chefs: MdeeJay and Bangsters. I use them both for daily use.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

anyway our advice is already stated there..
u want to install or not is depend on u..
any brick on ur phone will be responsible by urself..

You can run Android on a stock phone, but just be ready for any of the various annoyances with doing so, most common is audio issues like robot voice during calls. I tried it on stock Tmous HD2 for a while before finally loading up custom roms.
You might get lucky and not have the issues.

jelliottz said:
I use Chuck Droid ROM as my WinMo base. Radio 2.10.50.26. I switch between 2 Android chefs: MdeeJay and Bangsters. I use them both for daily use.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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thank for the info i will give it a try
harky said:
anyway our advice is already stated there..
u want to install or not is depend on u..
any brick on ur phone will be responsible by urself..
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sure it is..barely our own responsibility
daemonfly said:
You can run Android on a stock phone, but just be ready for any of the various annoyances with doing so, most common is audio issues like robot voice during calls. I tried it on stock Tmous HD2 for a while before finally loading up custom roms.
You might get lucky and not have the issues.
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lucky for the t-mob users..and me the universal hd2 user

[Q] android 2.2 system problems

hey guys i have an htc hd2 tmobile usa with the android 2.2 system and i have not flashed a custom rom on it yet.. right now my android system itself wastes a **** load of battery and there are other problems like the custom radio.... i cant make calls... i was wondering if i flash it using a custom rom will this fix my problems??? most importantly the battery problem... cause it wastes a **** load of battery just the system itself.. let me know quickly!!!

Yes, if you would read, you would know that most Android distros don't work with the stock ROM and radio. The only one that I have found that does is the Desire HD build, seems to work awesomely with the stock ROM. If you are hell bent on running Android, you need to flash to an Android compatible custom ROM, and apply HardSPL. The battery problem is a universal thing. It happens on nearly every distro of Android, so just try a bunch and see which one fits your needs.

ashasaur said:
Yes, if you would read, you would know that most Android distros don't work with the stock ROM and radio. The only one that I have found that does is the Desire HD build, seems to work awesomely with the stock ROM. If you are hell bent on running Android, you need to flash to an Android compatible custom ROM, and apply HardSPL. The battery problem is a universal thing. It happens on nearly every distro of Android, so just try a bunch and see which one fits your needs.
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so u have to find a stock rom that will fit android??? can u help me find one.... and i would like to find a stock rom that would lessen my android system battery use... cause the percentage of the battery use for my android system which is the desire build is over 50%... so as u can see this android system really waste a lot of my battery.. u think there is a stocl rom that will fix this problem???

ashasaur said:
Yes, if you would read, you would know that most Android distros don't work with the stock ROM and radio. The only one that I have found that does is the Desire HD build, seems to work awesomely with the stock ROM. If you are hell bent on running Android, you need to flash to an Android compatible custom ROM, and apply HardSPL. The battery problem is a universal thing. It happens on nearly every distro of Android, so just try a bunch and see which one fits your needs.
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i mean a custom rom not a stock rom.... im looking for a custom rom that will work well with android and lessen the battery use percentage of it.. cause the android system itself uses 50% of the battery.. i was wondering if there was a custom rom that will fix this and work well with android desire build.

The android builds are made to kill winmo when it runs. Ive read a post with tips one was to start android as soon as android boots up which did help me. Also i know the chuckydroid rom is really lite and boots fast. Ugly as hell but its not meant to look nice.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

uh im looking for a custom rom that will work well with me android build.. cause i want to use the aandroid build for htc hd2.... so im looking for a custom rom that will work with the android desire build and decrease the android system battery usage... and also fix my radio so i can make phone calls..

Try chuckydroid with the 2.10 radio.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

ddgarcia05 said:
Try chuckydroid with the 2.10 radio.
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uh is this chucky droid better than the energy rom??? and do i need to install the 2.10 radio separately or does it come with the chuckydroid rom already??

[Q] HD2 Android Rom without sense UI please?

So I absolutely love my HD2 with android on it. So much better than windows! But sense keeps getting in the way of my apps (mostly Wiimote apps) and it is getting really annoying...Is there a way around that? Or more to the point, does anyone know of a good rom that is android without sense that I can run?

cm7 based builds give you a good performance. you can also try miui builds they are fast too.

HyperDroid.

Rajiah said:
So I absolutely love my HD2 with android on it. So much better than windows! But sense keeps getting in the way of my apps (mostly Wiimote apps) and it is getting really annoying...Is there a way around that? Or more to the point, does anyone know of a good rom that is android without sense that I can run?
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cm7 rom in my signature was a flashaholic until i re-flashed typhoon 7 months after i first flashed the rom but must include this as people always say (WHAT IS BEST FOR ME, MAY NOT BE FOR YOU)
good luck

As Mentioned earlier,
HyperDroid.

Thanks guys I will check these out!

agentfazexx said:
HyperDroid.
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Hey i've checked this out and it looks good but i can not for the life of me to get it working. I've done the clock thing but now I've downloaded the rom (i think) and there are just three files and i don't know what to do with that I am rather new to this, only installed one rom before. Can you help me out?

Rajiah said:
Hey i've checked this out and it looks good but i can not for the life of me to get it working. I've done the clock thing but now I've downloaded the rom (i think) and there are just three files and i don't know what to do with that I am rather new to this, only installed one rom before. Can you help me out?
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What problem are you having? (former serial ROM flasher!!!!)
Are you using HD2 Toolkit, makes life a lot simpler for flashing ROMS etc

if you ask 10 people here what rom they like your bound to get 20 different responces. your best bet is to try each rom intill you find a rom you like and stick with it. i have 2 or 3 roms i like best and keep them on my sd so when i feel i need to change i just flash 1 real quick.
if you take a look at this web page there is a list of all the android roms listed here on XDA. its much easier to look through then the pages here & also it tells you if it has sence or not, when it was updated, if its a nand or sd version, when it was added as well as some other useful information. i would check it out and hopefully you can find a rom you like that works for you.

Go try to "TyphooN CyanogenMod 7".
I think you will like it if you don't like sense roms.

Which CM rom is the closest to normal CM7 without any themes or graphical changes? Would it be Tytung's NexusHD2?

nickclarke said:
What problem are you having? (former serial ROM flasher!!!!)
Are you using HD2 Toolkit, makes life a lot simpler for flashing ROMS etc
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Well the problem i am having now is that i can't get ANYTHING not even an original HD2 rom to update onto my phone...The HD2 toolkit is the MAGLDR CMW and SPL thing right?