Full vs Lite WinMo rom's when running android - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Hi everyone
What is peoples oppinion on full winmo roms like VBN or Energy and also using Android? Or do you go for the lite versions which should be more Android friendly?
Currently i am running VBN Droid Rom but i am missing a few features in the lite versions... Wondering to go back to the full roms but just thought i would ask around what your experience is with the full winmo roms compared to the lite ones
Thank you all

radio and rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651729 is a great full tweaked rom that works perfect with android!! give it a try youll love it!! i used lite roms for android and the elegancia works just as good! more important than the rom is the radio it will make all the difference! 2.12.50.2_02 works best for most http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787!!!

i use a full windows rom and dont see any need to swap

Richy99 said:
i use a full windows rom and dont see any need to swap
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Ditto here.

Always been an Energy Rom user, but thought I would give ChuckyDroid a go, as basically using Android as my day to day OS.
I found that with ChuckyDroid I was having more screen freezes and hard freezes (pull the battery), so switched back to Energy.
I believe there isn't much difference between the full and lite roms when running Android, its just down to personal experience and what works for you best.
As long as the Rom is Android friendly, and has the correct files cooked in to stop Robovoice etc, you won't see much difference apart from mainly the boot up speed if your booting straight into Android. As there was a considerable difference booting to Android using ChuckyDroid compared to Energy. ChuckyDroid was lightening quick.
Energy Aug 28th Radio 2.12
Bangsters 1.4

bobmarsh72 said:
Energy Sept 28th
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Quick, what were the lottery numbers for tomorrow? Or did you not jot them down while you were in the future. J/P, I had to.

bobmarsh72 said:
Always been an Energy Rom user, but thought I would give ChuckyDroid a go, as basically using Android as my day to day OS.
I found that with ChuckyDroid I was having more screen freezes and hard freezes (pull the battery), so switched back to Energy.
I believe there isn't much difference between the full and lite roms when running Android, its just down to personal experience and what works for you best.
As long as the Rom is Android friendly, and has the correct files cooked in to stop Robovoice etc, you won't see much difference apart from mainly the boot up speed if your booting straight into Android. As there was a considerable difference booting to Android using ChuckyDroid compared to Energy. ChuckyDroid was lightening quick.
Energy Sept 28th Radio 2.12
Bangsters 1.4
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Please define "Android friendly", or is that what chef just saying to make you feel comfortable, more confident to use with Android?
I cooked my own rom from the kitchen, I just unchecked this, unchecked that....then... you know....,I know nothing about Linux, Android, and my rom just run perfect with any Android build.
oh, I put a line says " this rom specially made to run Android", maybe that make my homemade rom "Android friendly".

juggs said:
Quick, what were the lottery numbers for tomorrow? Or did you not jot them down while you were in the future. J/P, I had to.
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My bad lol Aug 28th....
justwonder said:
Please define "Android friendly", or is that what chef just saying to make you feel comfortable, more confident to use with Android?
I cooked my own rom from the kitchen, I just unchecked this, unchecked that....then... you know....,I know nothing about Linux, Android, and my rom just run perfect with any Android build.
oh, I put a line says " this rom specially made to run Android", maybe that make my homemade rom "Android friendly".
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There are several .dll files that need to be in your build.... Im searching for the thread, as Im no expert but have read on this.
These files may already be in your base ROm when uploading, but the Roms that were having the problem with Robovoice I believe these files were added and if not fixed the problem were part of the reason it was fixed.
Edit....given up searching for the posts (so many to look through with key words such as robovoice, files, rom, android etc) but from what I can remember it was dll files taken from a stock 2.10 rom, which helped with the problem.
Edit again....Found the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757914 Actually reading back it doesn't give a definite answer if theses files did work, but it sounds like they did for pkoper.

I've tried ChuckyDroid & it was very good if you're running Android 24/7, but it's VERY lightweight. I'm using VBN now because I wanna have a usable WM rom just in case something happens to my Android installation(card dies, gets corrupted, etc.) & I'm not able to fix it right away. I've noticed no difference in performance upon switching roms. That said- I got robo-voice BAD on the stock WM rom, and it went away as soon as I flashed a custom rom.

bobmarsh72 said:
As long as the Rom is Android friendly, and has the correct files cooked in to stop Robovoice etc, you won't see much difference apart from mainly the boot up speed if your booting straight into Android. QUOTE]
I'm using a pre-Android EnergyROM for WinMo and it works fine. So not so sure about the correct files being cooked in?
One thing I've found is that Sense will get corrupted for some reason. So make sure you disable Sense (and then restart) before jumping into Android.
It'd work a few times, then on my 4th or whatever reboot into Android, Sense would decide to die. Not sure why, as Android isn't meant to interact with WinMo, but it would.
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So whats the best ROM for my Leo available?

I dont wanna brick my phone, i want no custom themes/icons, but i want the newest stuff, stable, and fast.
What rom is the best for me?
borgqueenx said:
I dont wanna brick my phone, i want no custom themes/icons, but i want the newest stuff, stable, and fast.
What rom is the best for me?
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I'm tired to see this kind of post...
borgqueenx said:
I dont wanna brick my phone, i want no custom themes/icons, but i want the newest stuff, stable, and fast.
What rom is the best for me?
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You should try some out and find the one that suites you. If you are worried about bricking the phone than don't install a custom ROM on it. I have used several the last week or so and of course I have a favorite ROM as well but the choice is individual.
Actually, I would like to know this too.. Im all new to this world of custom ROMs, and I fid it hard to see precisely what everything does, and what makes it uniqe.. For a newb like me, this is indeed hard.
ZeuBug said:
I'm tired to see this kind of post...
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Give hime some credit....80 plus posts not bad, maybe migrated from another device...
If you don`t want to risk bricking your phone then simple NO FLASH NO RISK....
IF you want all the lastest stuff pick a rom you like the contents of....
Personaly i`m on miri at the mo, Might give NRG a try when its released...
Once you start flashing you`ll get the buzz and you`ll want the latest revision all the time....
Good luck, and there`s allways some one willing to help out,
Next time i`d tag your question onto an allready running post about best roms, Do a search and try not to start a new thread....
Stoferr said:
Actually, I would like to know this too.. Im all new to this world of custom ROMs, and I fid it hard to see precisely what everything does, and what makes it uniqe.. For a newb like me, this is indeed hard.
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I am new to it all as well, but didn't have keept me from trying out 5 different roms and I am trying a few more when they are released as well.
The best roms i have tested is the Topix 1.1 and the XT Pandora 1.0 which I am using now. The thing I like about them both is the are really fast and responsive. The Pandora rom has more software installed from the start which can be both good and bad. The collection of apps in pandora suits me well, the topix had to get a few pieces of software installed.
Admins and many people dont like topics like that because they bring us to endless discussions. Some people are fan of that rom others are fan of another one and start to 'battle' here.
As far as i know there are five or six roms around here. Thats not to much to try.
borgqueenx said:
I dont wanna brick my phone, i want no custom themes/icons, but i want the newest stuff, stable, and fast.
What rom is the best for me?
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As everyone else said don't flash if you are scared! if you read well and follow instructions there is no reason you brick your device ...
If you are:
1. Looking for stable and fast 6.5 ROM I reccomend Miri
2. Looking for stable and fast 6.5.x ROM with menubar at the bottom try Maati
so do what the rest of us do and test. I tried 4 ROMs the first day SSPL was released and have now settled on my fav. People who have been flashing for a while do have preferred cookers but as you are new i would try 3 or 4 and try them. The Rom Posts always tell you what is included as extras and what they have removed from the standard apps that come with it to either speed it up or make a little mnore space.
Do some more research if needed but dont come asking what the best ROM is as it all comes down to personal opinion in the end anyway. Take buying a Car yes you might ask people which to buy but in the end you will test drive a few then settle on which is the best for YOU. It's the same with ROMs.
As for worrying about bricking your phone as long as you follow the instructions you should be fine. I have been doing this for a couple of years now and the only issue i have ever had was flashing a Security unlocked Radio because i didnt pay attention to what the instructions said.
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For answer what's best now, i would like to say, stock 1.61 is best one.
Try alot of cook Rom so far, but no one still now is stable, all of them cause a system freeze on my phone.
Note that HD2 is very fast and have a high hardware performance allready, so rom cook needed stable at the first.
vuvan said:
For answer what's best now, i would like to say, stock 1.61 is best one.
Try alot of cook Rom so far, but no one still now is stable, all of them cause a system freeze on my phone.
Note that HD2 is very fast and have a high hardware performance allready, so rom cook needed stable at the first.
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I agree with you. Make a big round trying all the custom roms , now I'm back to 1.61 stock rom. 1.61 is fast and stable. Gonna wait till the custom roms are stable first before I use them for daily usage.
vuvan said:
For answer what's best now, i would like to say, stock 1.61 is best one.
Try alot of cook Rom so far, but no one still now is stable, all of them cause a system freeze on my phone.
Note that HD2 is very fast and have a high hardware performance allready, so rom cook needed stable at the first.
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I agree with this. I have since gone back to 1.48 (+ hotfixes + 1.61 radio, so it's basically 1.61 in German). In particular, WM6.5.3 seems to cause a few problems. I am sure this will get fixed in due time. What the OP was in a way criticizing is the fact that many custom roms have third party apps and themes built in - which is very much a matter of taste. I personally look forward to this:
- Clean 6.5.3(.3) OS
- HTC Sense + other stock apps patched so they do not conflict with 6.5.3.
- No custom themes / icons etc unless they are provided as optional addon.
From my Kaiser i still remember the "UC" method, where cabs were optionally added after flash depending on the what you put in a text file. I think this was the best compromise.
So the newest official rom is the best? And after installing that i have to tweak everything?
aint it possible to delete everything and just install a fresh windows mobile and htc sense, and go on yourself with stuff i want? Or is it not possible/not a good idea?
borgqueenx said:
So the newest official rom is the best? And after installing that i have to tweak everything?
aint it possible to delete everything and just install a fresh windows mobile and htc sense, and go on yourself with stuff i want? Or is it not possible/not a good idea?
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i dont think the official rom can beat the two latest cooked roms i have used. the topix and pandora are faster and more smooth and still has the htc software as well
i tried em all
i really wish to take some thing from everything
but back to miri
man that rom is super fast
it just needs some folders and some apps thats all
i am on miri's too.. didn't try others but coming from 1.43 stock it was much smoother!!!
vuvan said:
For answer what's best now, i would like to say, stock 1.61 is best one.
Try alot of cook Rom so far, but no one still now is stable, all of them cause a system freeze on my phone.
Note that HD2 is very fast and have a high hardware performance allready, so rom cook needed stable at the first.
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Although I like your common sense argument, I wonder if it holds when you realise that a stock rom with a gazillion tweaks, utilities and driver updates added isn't realy a stock rom anymore.
So what's better: to go for a tweaked rom that is tested and shared by a community of users, or to soft-modify a rom yourself?
The only thing I'm a bit worried about is how save my data are on a customed rom. I mean aren't they a bit "hacker" prone? Not that i mistrust the chefs, but the components they use, how trustworthy are they?
EDIT: but then again, also installed utilities, programs etc. could potentialy hijack my personal data.... (so not maybe the worry isn't very realistic)

[Q] android 2.2 system problems

hey guys i have an htc hd2 tmobile usa with the android 2.2 system and i have not flashed a custom rom on it yet.. right now my android system itself wastes a **** load of battery and there are other problems like the custom radio.... i cant make calls... i was wondering if i flash it using a custom rom will this fix my problems??? most importantly the battery problem... cause it wastes a **** load of battery just the system itself.. let me know quickly!!!
Yes, if you would read, you would know that most Android distros don't work with the stock ROM and radio. The only one that I have found that does is the Desire HD build, seems to work awesomely with the stock ROM. If you are hell bent on running Android, you need to flash to an Android compatible custom ROM, and apply HardSPL. The battery problem is a universal thing. It happens on nearly every distro of Android, so just try a bunch and see which one fits your needs.
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Yes, if you would read, you would know that most Android distros don't work with the stock ROM and radio. The only one that I have found that does is the Desire HD build, seems to work awesomely with the stock ROM. If you are hell bent on running Android, you need to flash to an Android compatible custom ROM, and apply HardSPL. The battery problem is a universal thing. It happens on nearly every distro of Android, so just try a bunch and see which one fits your needs.
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so u have to find a stock rom that will fit android??? can u help me find one.... and i would like to find a stock rom that would lessen my android system battery use... cause the percentage of the battery use for my android system which is the desire build is over 50%... so as u can see this android system really waste a lot of my battery.. u think there is a stocl rom that will fix this problem???
ashasaur said:
Yes, if you would read, you would know that most Android distros don't work with the stock ROM and radio. The only one that I have found that does is the Desire HD build, seems to work awesomely with the stock ROM. If you are hell bent on running Android, you need to flash to an Android compatible custom ROM, and apply HardSPL. The battery problem is a universal thing. It happens on nearly every distro of Android, so just try a bunch and see which one fits your needs.
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i mean a custom rom not a stock rom.... im looking for a custom rom that will work well with android and lessen the battery use percentage of it.. cause the android system itself uses 50% of the battery.. i was wondering if there was a custom rom that will fix this and work well with android desire build.
The android builds are made to kill winmo when it runs. Ive read a post with tips one was to start android as soon as android boots up which did help me. Also i know the chuckydroid rom is really lite and boots fast. Ugly as hell but its not meant to look nice.
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uh im looking for a custom rom that will work well with me android build.. cause i want to use the aandroid build for htc hd2.... so im looking for a custom rom that will work with the android desire build and decrease the android system battery usage... and also fix my radio so i can make phone calls..
Try chuckydroid with the 2.10 radio.
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Try chuckydroid with the 2.10 radio.
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uh is this chucky droid better than the energy rom??? and do i need to install the 2.10 radio separately or does it come with the chuckydroid rom already??

win mo lite rom ,

any suggestions which win mo rom to use for android?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774417
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any suggestions which win mo rom to use for android?
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check my signature; I've started a thread for VBN Rom, as it's down, look for deamansink...
Most winmo roms will work fine. Getting a light winmo rom doesn't make any difference ... if you're still gonna use winmo, you might as well get a full rom. Only difference that winmo roms may make with android is based on the base used in the winmo rom, not the size or what's included in the rom.
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I don't completely agree with you. When I switched to vbn at first and later to Ozdroid, I noticed that there is a difference in startup time. Lighter WM Roms are booting quicker IMHO, which is an advantage if you want to start booting Android as quick as you can...
Sincerely,
Mac
Macelangelo77 said:
I don't completely agree with you. When I switched to vbn at first and later to Ozdroid, I noticed that there is a difference in startup time. Lighter WM Roms are booting quicker IMHO, which is an advantage if you want to start booting Android as quick as you can...
Sincerely,
Mac
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And that''s it, right? Used to have oz and vbn. Now, I am using Dutty's com3 v10. Same booting time with oz and vbn and I also get 4-6mA on standby.
I've used VBN, my own cooked, NRG, and every ROM you can imagine.
Honestly, the best for battery life, speed, and working everything seems to be Energy with a 2.15.50 radio.

Best ROM to install on HD2

Hi
I will be getting an HTC HD2 in a few days and I am planning on loading the Android Froyo OS, and will be using it as my main system.
But looking through all those threads, I am stuck as to where to begin.
I need to find the latest and best NAND ROM for the HD2, since I intend to do all this hopefully just one time.
I would appreciate any guides that would get me rolling in the right direction.
thanks
Personal opinion
Hi,
I have tried many ROM till now, infact mostly all the ROMs. The best for my purpose ( since I am a heavy user ) is HyperDroidGingerbreadV1.2.
Benefits:-
1. Tweeked
2. Super Speed
3. Battery saver
4. Nice UI
5. Very responsive.
PS: Do give it a try.
I suggest you go to the forum and just read. You will find lots of tutorials on how to install and tweak the roms. You will find multiple roms and each has unique features. What I have done, and what I suggest for you, is just tried a bunch of different roms to see what works best for me. Try them all and see what you like the most. Part of the fun of having the HD2 is all the different things you can do with it.
bhagiratha said:
Hi
I will be getting an HTC HD2 in a few days and I am planning on loading the Android Froyo OS, and will be using it as my main system.
But looking through all those threads, I am stuck as to where to begin.
I need to find the latest and best NAND ROM for the HD2, since I intend to do all this hopefully just one time.
I would appreciate any guides that would get me rolling in the right direction.
thanks
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I've tried almost every rom on the board .....so
Heres my top 3... Everything works low battery drain
1. JDMS based on the newest android ginger super fast with lots of options Tmobile ready link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782301
2. MDJ Froyo revolution ... sense build need to put it in apn settings for internet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
3. Motoman234 MyTouch3g Glacier build... very unique tmobile ready out of the box
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919853
This question/topic is frowned upon on XDA simply because its asked over and over again and there is no real answer as its subjective.
What is "best" for one person isnt always "best" for another and you may experience problems that another person didnt on his hardware.
There is no point in just asking what is the best one to install, The best thing you can do is to go read some guides etc, research as much info as you can and then try various roms until you find one that you like best or works best for YOU.
Do I need to still have windows on the phone to be able to install Android, or can it be done on its own?
Depends if you're installing a ROM or NAND.
ROMs install on your media card and require WinMo to boot the phone, NANDS replace WinMo.
Note that ROMs and NANDs are located in different sections of the forum.
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Depends if you're installing a ROM or NAND.
ROMs install on your media card and require WinMo to boot the phone, NANDS replace WinMo.
Note that ROMs and NANDs are located in different sections of the forum.
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???? ????
You can install SD builds or NAND builds. SD builds are just copied to your SD card and you boot them from within Windows, but NAND builds replace Windows. Both types of build are ROMs.
I would prefer the NAND ROMS. I really don't like windows at all.
Can't find the guide to help me do the NAND install.
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Both types of build are ROMs.
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Nay, dear sir. A ROM refers to software flashed to internal memory, whilst a build refers to software installed on an SD card.
Unfortunately a lot of people ignore or are not aware of this convention, but it's a pretty important one to prevent confusion.
StephanV said:
Nay, dear sir. A ROM refers to software flashed to internal memory, whilst a build refers to software installed on an SD card.
Unfortunately a lot of people ignore or are not aware of this convention, but it's a pretty important one to prevent confusion.
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Thanks for the correction, but actually ROM is the chip that the build is flashed onto (in the case of NAND). They're all builds, regardless of location
We could be stuck in an endless debate here, because these terms have different kinds of meanings. ROM is also often used as an abbreviation of ROM image, i.e. a image of the firmware on a read-only memory chip (ROM chip). This means that it would be valid to call NAND firmware ROM, and invalid to call SD firmware ROM since it's not meant for read-only memory.
While strictly speaking it is indeed correct to call NAND firmware a build, there has been made a convention (I suppose this is HD2 specific) to keep them seperated.
casemandan said:
I've tried almost every rom on the board .....so
Heres my top 3... Everything works low battery drain
1. JDMS based on the newest android ginger super fast with lots of options Tmobile ready link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782301
2. MDJ Froyo revolution ... sense build need to put it in apn settings for internet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823491
3. Motoman234 MyTouch3g Glacier build... very unique tmobile ready out of the box
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919853
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Casemandan, did I miss something? I have been browsing the JDMS thread for a few days, but don't see how it is "T-Mobile ready." In particular, I'm looking for MMS that comes in the same quality as the sense T-Mobile ready builds. Read a few tips but quality is still sacrificed upon receiving for all gingerbread ROMs I've tried.
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Hello and thanks to all.
According to title of this thread , I need a NAND ROM which has a file manger and support Persian language.
Any suggestion ?
Best regards.
To my opinion is it to wait for a stabe gingerbread or (maybe) Honeycomb NAND rom, isnt it?
Thank mate...
i think best rom for hd2 is cyanogen mod7 v2.6 that is android 2.3.2
I like the MIUI build. It has a few hiccups, but great. Love this than the other builds.
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[Q] HD2 Android Rom without sense UI please?

So I absolutely love my HD2 with android on it. So much better than windows! But sense keeps getting in the way of my apps (mostly Wiimote apps) and it is getting really annoying...Is there a way around that? Or more to the point, does anyone know of a good rom that is android without sense that I can run?
cm7 based builds give you a good performance. you can also try miui builds they are fast too.
HyperDroid.
Rajiah said:
So I absolutely love my HD2 with android on it. So much better than windows! But sense keeps getting in the way of my apps (mostly Wiimote apps) and it is getting really annoying...Is there a way around that? Or more to the point, does anyone know of a good rom that is android without sense that I can run?
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cm7 rom in my signature was a flashaholic until i re-flashed typhoon 7 months after i first flashed the rom but must include this as people always say (WHAT IS BEST FOR ME, MAY NOT BE FOR YOU)
good luck
As Mentioned earlier,
HyperDroid.
Thanks guys I will check these out!
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HyperDroid.
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Hey i've checked this out and it looks good but i can not for the life of me to get it working. I've done the clock thing but now I've downloaded the rom (i think) and there are just three files and i don't know what to do with that I am rather new to this, only installed one rom before. Can you help me out?
Rajiah said:
Hey i've checked this out and it looks good but i can not for the life of me to get it working. I've done the clock thing but now I've downloaded the rom (i think) and there are just three files and i don't know what to do with that I am rather new to this, only installed one rom before. Can you help me out?
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What problem are you having? (former serial ROM flasher!!!!)
Are you using HD2 Toolkit, makes life a lot simpler for flashing ROMS etc
if you ask 10 people here what rom they like your bound to get 20 different responces. your best bet is to try each rom intill you find a rom you like and stick with it. i have 2 or 3 roms i like best and keep them on my sd so when i feel i need to change i just flash 1 real quick.
if you take a look at this web page there is a list of all the android roms listed here on XDA. its much easier to look through then the pages here & also it tells you if it has sence or not, when it was updated, if its a nand or sd version, when it was added as well as some other useful information. i would check it out and hopefully you can find a rom you like that works for you.
Go try to "TyphooN CyanogenMod 7".
I think you will like it if you don't like sense roms.
Which CM rom is the closest to normal CM7 without any themes or graphical changes? Would it be Tytung's NexusHD2?
nickclarke said:
What problem are you having? (former serial ROM flasher!!!!)
Are you using HD2 Toolkit, makes life a lot simpler for flashing ROMS etc
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Well the problem i am having now is that i can't get ANYTHING not even an original HD2 rom to update onto my phone...The HD2 toolkit is the MAGLDR CMW and SPL thing right?

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