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[Rumor] Great news if true Nexus 2 is going to a samsung phone

Now if this true a google optimized samsung would mean the developers working on our phone will get an optimized kernal etc for hardware similar to our own
plus it is supposed to be a google phone meaning no custom ui so a we would better ports and roms for our phones.
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/rumor-samsung-will-announce-the-nexus-two-on-november-8th/

Very very exciting indeed. I am so glad I am getting a total refund now. Will def. wait and see if this is true!

If this is true, Android 3.0 running on the Orion makes me all giddy inside
Dual core 1Ghz A9 with 5x the graphic preformance of the current hummingbird.
http://i.engadget.com/2010/09/07/samsungs-orion-is-the-1ghz-dual-core-arm-cortex-a9-weve-all-be/
And an OS tuned by google. No.more ****ty software problems. What a match
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God I hope not, I was thinking of the n1s successor being the next Google phone, but not if its made by those clowns.

it is not true.

tameracingdriver said:
God I hope not, I was thinking of the n1s successor being the next Google phone, but not if its made by those clowns.
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Clowns or not they are currently the ONLY phone maker who did not lock android down like a prison. Do you prefer getting a new HTC with their horrendous nand lock? Or maybe a Motorola with their encrypted bootloader ?
I didn't think so. Nuff said.

I really really hope it's true, in this case that's my next phone!
Samsung hardware with google software is indeed a deadly combo!
I told my cousin yesterday that samsung should drop dealing with the software side, and keep on concentrating on hardware. It seems they took my advice. Good boy Samsung!

Soniboy84 said:
I really really hope it's true, in this case that's my next phone!
Samsung hardware with google software is indeed a deadly combo!
I told my cousin yesterday that samsung should drop dealing with the software side, and keep on concentrating on hardware. It seems they took my advice. Good boy Samsung!
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Deadly indeed. Hopefully the customers will be able to survive using the phone for at least a few minutes
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Nexus Two = Galaxy S
Have you heard the news? Google is working with Samsung on Nexus Two.
And rumors claim that it will be actually called Nexus S. It is supposed to have the same specs as Galaxy S have and to be released with Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/rumor-samsung-will-announce-the-nexus-two-on-november-8th/
The device will be the Nexus S
* It will be branded as a Google experience device featuring Android 2.3
* It will have the same 4" SAMOLED screen seen on the Galaxy S devices
* It will feature the same Hummingbird processor from the Galaxy S handsets
* It will be easily rootable like the Nexus One was
* It will be at least GSM, unknown about carrier or CDMA
* It will have no hard buttons on the face, similar to a Vibrant
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These are good news for us, 'coz we may be able to have Nexus Two goodies and seems like Gingerbread will be ported to Galaxy S (if not officially released) very easily.

If this is the case, nov. 8th announcement will be Da Bomb!!

If this is true, I might sell my SGS and get this one instead for a bigger modding community and faster updates!

tameracingdriver said:
God I hope not, I was thinking of the n1s successor being the next Google phone, but not if its made by those clowns.
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Well, Galaxy S is the best Android phone on the market at the moment (hardware wise). So if there isn't going to be released any better soon, Galaxy S is the most obvious choice for Nexus Two.

EarlZ said:
If this is true, I might sell my SGS and get this one instead for a bigger modding community and faster updates!
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Why would you? It's basicaly the same phone, only ported!
You'd have to do the hastle to sell the phone, get another one with the same internals but with Google's logo instead. Just flash a rom on the first one and it'll be the same (ok... not the logos, but you can get those on eBay if you REALY want em!)

t1mman said:
Why would you? It's basicaly the same phone, only ported!
You'd have to do the hastle to sell the phone, get another one with the same internals but with Google's logo instead. Just flash a rom on the first one and it'll be the same (ok... not the logos, but you can get those on eBay if you REALY want em!)
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Porting may have a long wait time and additional bugs might arise and also I dont want any hard buttons on my screen.

i highly doubt this is true, but it would be wonderful.
we would probably get an optimized jit for the hummingbird finally, among other things.

evil-doer said:
i highly doubt this is true, but it would be wonderful.
we would probably get an optimized jit for the hummingbird finally, among other things.
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Phone weight = 400g
Nice power pack battery lol
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I doubt its true, but however im sure it will be better than sgs even if they have the same a firmware.Anyone wants to bet?
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Wow I hope it's true it has the same hardware. Especially as I just got my Galaxy S lol.

Just about bought a nexus one yesterday.
Maybe I will wait for the Nov 8th announcement

I’m probably living in a pipe dream or just smoke to much, but imagine if they announced that the Galaxy S is going to be the first phone to have Gingerbread and be Google’s new Dev phone !
Hey it would make sense if it happened due to them pulling and delaying the Froyo release.
Ahhh a man can dream!

Samsung is making the nexus 2!

http://gizmodo.com/5676008/hands-on-the-nexus-two-by-samsung
Samsung is making the nexus 2!
we are getting gingerbread sooner than you think!
porting will be easy if it on the hummingbird cpu

Samsung is not making the Nexus Two. They are making a google experience phone... much like many other carriers are.
You'll see... if there is a "nexus two" it will be made by HTC.

hydralisk said:
Samsung is not making the Nexus Two. They are making a google experience phone... much like many other carriers are.
You'll see... if there is a "nexus two" it will be made by HTC.
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Either way, if this thing has the specs that crappy gizmodo is hinting at, and it has a hummingbird processor, and it has gingerbread, than it should be a relatively easy port over to our phones. Time to cross them fingers.

hydralisk said:
Samsung is not making the Nexus Two. They are making a google experience phone... much like many other carriers are.
You'll see... if there is a "nexus two" it will be made by HTC.
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Guess you don't follow the news

infamousjax said:
Guess you don't follow the news
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I think I follow it better than you do and I don't jump to conclusions at the first rumor I see.
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/28/first-details-of-the-samsung-nexus-s-emerge/
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/samsungs-nexus-two-point-three-in-the-wild-running-gingerbread/
It won't be called the "Nexus Two." It will be branded a "nexus" device (probably something like "Nexus S") but that is by Samsung, not Google.

I was hoping new line of sgs would be packing their Orion processor, but I like the idea of a hummingbird with easily ported gingerbread! Samfirmwares have said Samsung was thinking of offering gingerbread to sgs, but I take that with a grain of salt.
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What makes gingerbread better then froyo?
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infamousjax said:
Guess you don't follow the news
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Never trust Gizmodo. Its pretty much a universal rule. Even if Gizmodo has pictures of the device and a video demonstrating it, still at least have half a dozen other sources before you believe a gizmodo story.
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What makes gingerbread better then froyo?
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Its the successor to froyo? Everything is just rumors at this point about gingerbread, but they are damn good rumors. Also, you usually don't expect a company to release a newer OS that is worse than the previous one, so its safe to assume that at least in certain ways, gingerbread is a better OS than froyo. In general, you can probably expect gingerbread to run faster, introduce a few new killer features, and improve upon other aspects of the OS. Also, its better because it is simply the newest OS and having the newest OS means you get to run all of the newest apps. Much like how we cannot run flash right now on the epic because its a 2.2 thing.

Samsung and the "Nexus 2"

So lets just get crazy and assume that Gizmodo has this right: http://gizmodo.com/5676008/ and this is the Nexus 2. If it is based on the same platform as the Vibrant (Galaxy S) and is running Gingerbread (2.3) we could be looking at some very real possibilities of our phones becoming as valuable as the Nexus One platform.
And a real good shot at moving right to Gingerbread.
My 2 cents.

zaphod_fl said:
So lets just get crazy and assume that Gizmodo has this right: http://gizmodo.com/5676008/ and this is the Nexus 2. If it is based on the same platform as the Vibrant (Galaxy S) and is running Gingerbread (2.3) we could be looking at some very real possibilities of our phones becoming as valuable as the Nexus One platform.
And a real good shot at moving right to Gingerbread.
My 2 cents.
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Everything is still a speculation
http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/google-and-carphone-mobile-deal
My 2 cents: Samsung is too new to the Android market to create a developer phone, even though Galaxy S provides a great hardware platform there are some aspects that could only be conceived during comma - RFS.
It is only a matter of time before we would know who has been chosen to carry the Android torch.
P.S. Before it becomes a war should be here or there - there are a plethora posts in XDA General section, and this thread most likely will be moved over there.

If this pushed Samsung to drop RFS, I'm all for it.

Um wasn't there a thread with a link to an article which said no more nexus period. That means 1, 2, etc. They purpose of google and the n1 was to push advancements and make phone devs step it up.Look it worked. To paraphrase googles head "we are not in the business of making cell phones"

Perfect combination, Samsung hardware with google supporting software.
Now people wont have to worry about if and when they will receive updates especially when new android OS come out.
This is the only reason i miss my nexus...exclusive OS updates

ntellegence said:
Um wasn't there a thread with a link to an article which said no more nexus period. That means 1, 2, etc. They purpose of google and the n1 was to push advancements and make phone devs step it up.Look it worked. To paraphrase googles head "we are not in the business of making cell phones"
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that was 4 months ago. They could have changed their minds.

It would be nice that the Nexus Two is Samsung hardware, that means we Galaxy S owners will get the latest Android revision from dev. Google and Samsung joining up would be nice since Samsung make there own hardware.
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d01100100 said:
If this pushed Samsung to drop RFS, I'm all for it.
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+1
I for 1 would only buy another phone if I needed it. The vibrant now, which is still young in development, gives me what I need. The part that interest me about having the N2 manufactured by samsung would be possible ports to the current line of the GS series.

the wrong manufacturer is making this phone....im telling you dont let its sex appeal get u drooling...u'll b waiting forever for a software update like all the other Samsung phones. Samsung always finds a way to differentiate thier software from everyone which basically puts a governor that affects performance negatively like RFS filesystem and Touchwiz...dont get me wrong, the vibrant is a GREAT phone w/ media features but its the last Samsung phone ill ever get. I might ebay this soon if something comes out that catches my eye thats a HTC phone. Theres a big diff in performance and larger rom/kernel developer support. Cyanogen in particular

boimarc89 said:
the wrong manufacturer is making this phone....im telling you dont let its sex appeal get u drooling...u'll b waiting forever for a software update like all the other Samsung phones. Samsung always finds a way to differentiate thier software from everyone which basically puts a governor that affects performance negatively like RFS filesystem and Touchwiz...dont get me wrong, the vibrant is a GREAT phone w/ media features but its the last Samsung phone ill ever get. I might ebay this soon if something comes out that catches my eye thats a HTC phone. Theres a big diff in performance and larger rom/kernel developer support. Cyanogen in particular
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What? Not to add speculation upon speculation, but surely the Nexus2 or a new developer phone would surely be void of any vendor overlays, even Samsung's TouchWiz.

true, but its very possible it could still have the dreaded RFS filesystem. Even with stock android, this will significantly hamper the phone.
This is one of the main reasons i'm leaning towards getting a mytouch 4g.

if samsung gets the nexus two, its very likely we will also benfit from it.
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jackhuny said:
if samsung gets the nexus two, its very likely we will also benfit from it.
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/Twerd.
Hopefully it would push RFS out the window. And if not, as long as everything else is Google-ified, we can get it ported & get some z4mod action.
-bZj

Samsung says not true http://www.indyposted.com/122225/samsung-says-nexus-two-rumors-are-simply-not-true/

boimarc89 said:
the wrong manufacturer is making this phone....im telling you dont let its sex appeal get u drooling...u'll b waiting forever for a software update like all the other Samsung phones. Samsung always finds a way to differentiate thier software from everyone which basically puts a governor that affects performance negatively like RFS filesystem and Touchwiz...dont get me wrong, the vibrant is a GREAT phone w/ media features but its the last Samsung phone ill ever get. I might ebay this soon if something comes out that catches my eye thats a HTC phone. Theres a big diff in performance and larger rom/kernel developer support. Cyanogen in particular
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Really? Haven't you learned anything about the Nexus One? Google supports their own phone, while their customer service does suck, all updates to the Nexus One was via Google, not HTC. If Google is wanting to make another Nexus phone, then I highly doubt they will let the manufacturer decide everything. Even with the RFS file system, I doubt Google would let that happen since it's their phone, and when they release a phone under their name, it will probably be a developer phone which should have little to no problems software-wise.

smashpunks said:
Samsung says not true http://www.indyposted.com/122225/samsung-says-nexus-two-rumors-are-simply-not-true/
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lol. i beg to differ
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/news/yes-the-samsung-nexus-phone-is-still-real-and-coming-soon/

Galaxy S II vs Lg 2x

This is a pretty solid review of the LG 2x and the Samsung Galaxy S2. Keep in mind that the S2 is pre-production and the 2x is still running Froyo.
SGS2 vs LG2X: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585.php
I think the S2 is the better phone and I have high expectations for the Exynos/Mali combo.
I would not be displeased if the next Nexus Phone was a re-hatch of the S2 (similar to what happened with the SGS/NS) or the HTC Pyramid. I feel the HTC Pyramid looks like the HTC sucessor of the N1 (Al unibody, look, feel etc.)
HTC Pyramid: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585.php

This is a pretty solid review of the LG 2x and the Samsung Galaxy S2. Keep in mind that the S2 is pre-production and the 2x is still running Froyo.
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I'll stick with my Google experience phone, thanks. Regardless of what manufacturer it is, I don't trust them with supplying updates in a timely based. Don't care whether or not ROMs will provide it because I use custom ROMs anyway but I dislike seeing threads about "WHEN IS GINGERBREAD COMING?" especially during the vibrant forums.
"WHEN IS FROYO COMING?!" and all these things. It's just not worth it, plus.. I prefer Google maintaining it because they will supply source to the kernel and build as soon as possible.

Nexus is my one and only.
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zephiK said:
I'll stick with my Google experience phone, thanks. Regardless of what manufacturer it is, I don't trust them with supplying updates in a timely based. Don't care whether or not ROMs will provide it because I use custom ROMs anyway but I dislike seeing threads about "WHEN IS GINGERBREAD COMING?" especially during the vibrant forums.
"WHEN IS FROYO COMING?!" and all these things. It's just not worth it, plus.. I prefer Google maintaining it because they will supply source to the kernel and build as soon as possible.
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"Reboot" your phone, thanks
It is also unlikely my next phone will not be the next Nexus phone. The purpose of this thread is to take a look at next Gen components that may be in the next nexus phone. There is a good chance the next nexus will have the CPU/gpu of the three phones mentioned above or even a rehatch of s2 or pyramid.
Edit: thanks for adding to your post.

irishrally said:
"Reboot" your phone, thanks
It is also unlikely my next phone will not be the next Nexus phone. The purpose of this thread is to take a look at next Gen components that may be in the next nexus phone. There is a good chance the next nexus will have the CPU/gpu of the three phones mentioned above or even a rehatch of s2 or pyramid.
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No that is not the purpose of the thread. The thread states "potential candidates to replace your NS," not potential candidates for the next Nexus.
Edit: you're real mature for changing the thread name

New Nexus? What do you make of this?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...r-google-nexus-4g-may-win-carriers-hearts.ars
Not sure what to think about this. Seems quick?

no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS

Nexus One was released in January 2010, Nexus S was released in December 2010, so this seems in line with Nexus release dates, Holiday Season every year.

Says no front "buttons". I wonder how the software buttons is going to work.

Whose making it??
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csmall said:
Whose making it??
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Read a rumor that LG might make it, because they have experience with that form factor. I guess any company could adopt to it easily though.

zephiK said:
no?
NS was released late last year
N1 was released early last year
it was bound to happen.. but at least NS will be the second next phone to get ICS
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Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.

joshthewaster said:
Guess you're right. Time flies. lol
I hope Samsung is making it again. I know people dislike them but I love their hardware.
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+1 they produce the best screens. I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung.
Who else is there?
LG: lol, we give stock and dont provide gingerbread updates (been almost a whole month). "stock" on carriers aren't really stock. 3rd choice.
Motorola: motoblur + bloat + locked bootloader
HTC: this is my second choice next to Samsung. even though they have said they're commited to not lock the bootloader anymore. i find it shady that they would even plan on locking the bootloader in the first place.
SE: not really producing any highend phones
Samsung: doesn't lock bootloader, easy to root etc. great hardware
my only complaint with Samsung are the plastic back covers, but I can deal with it after putting a case on.
people probably hate it because of TouchWiz. but if you don't use TouchWiz launcher (which many of us dont since we use ADW / LP) it's a great skin. it offers many features that are pretty nice.

The plastic battery cover angers me. It always creaks can't they make 2 version's. They can do it look at captivate now my screen creaks if I press the top part of screen it moves fml if they wanna compete with iPhone they need to step this up I really don't like HTC IMO there phones are garbage but damn least they put metal
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Hopefully HTC. Great build, software and hardware. Never had issues with them, now Samsung on the other hand.... The enjoy good thing about them is the screens .
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Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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fraspas said:
Hopefully not HTC. They already made the nexus 1. So maybe its time for another company to take the helm on this.
Why doesn't Google just make it themselves?
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Because Google simply provides the software. Not the hardware. If they go towards the direction of making the phone.. well, that doesn't fit their profile. They would be purchasing things from Samsung Electronics anyway and the profit stream would be way less.
And it doesn't matter if the company has already done the Nexus phone. Everything isn't built off the idea that it's fair.
Oh hey guys, Samsung & HTC already did the Nexus phones. Let's give Huawei a chance to make the next nexus phone!

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I honestly don't know whats up with the hate with Samsung. Who else is there? LG: lol
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FWIW, my ranking would be:
HTC: decent hardware that works. I can't abide Sense nor their tendency to lock down stuff, but on a Nexus that wouldn't matter. The safe choice.
LG: their Android phones are actually really nice, even if the product lineup is a bit strange. Specced by Google, built by LG? Oh yes, please.
Huawei (or some other less well-known brand): A Nexus could give the brand a boost, thus boosting competition in the long run.
Samsung: They always manage to have great spec sheets, but also there's always something that doesn't work right or at all. See GPS on the SGS1, sound on the SGS2, GPS on the Nexus S and compass/accelerometer on basically any Samsung-built Android phone. Also they have obvious quality control issues.
S-E: Well, why not? I don't think they'd even be interested, though, control freaks that they are.
Motorola: No, thank you.

No not LG. I have owned a couple of LG phones and never ever have i been satisfied. I just dont associate LG with anything good.

I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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mylexon20s said:
I hope not LG. The G2x has been a disaster to say the least, returns like crazy on them. Everyone I know that had one has returned it..
HTC, makes IMO the best quality phones. The sensation is awesome with solid hardware! They know what their doing
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Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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zephiK said:
Clearly not since they thought locking the bootloader was a great idea. Sure they listened to the community, nevertheless it was shady. At this time, bootloaders are still locked.
Not to mention, sense cripples android speed.ill stick to stock.
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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.

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If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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No, not HTC again. My Nexus One already suffered from the dust issues and dead power button that I decided to just sell it after getting a replacement. HTC may make solid feeling builds but their phones almost always have build quality issues (the Sensation already has a dust issue).

If Samsung doesn't make it I will really miss the samoled screen. Unless LG decides to throw a retina busting display on it. makes you wonder what they mean by monster display, could just mean a 4.5 inch screen or a resolution that is unmatched. After all they are the ones that make the retina display.
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tmcquake said:
If HTC (or any OEM for that matter) made the next Nexus phone Google would required them to make them hackable, since it will likely be a dev phone. So you don't need to worry about signed bootloaders if HTC makes the next Nexus.
Also, there are never custom skins (such as Sense) on Nexus phones. The Nexus phones are designed to be hardware benchmarks for stock Android software.
Personally, I think HTC would be a great hardware manufacturer for the next Nexus device. I miss the solid build quality of my Nexus One. That being said, Samsung's AMOLED screen on the NS is outstanding.
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I'm not worried about "signed bootloaders." HTC has already commited themselves to unlocking the bootloaders on future phones and current phones that feature them. I've been on Android since the G1, so I'm aware of all this.
Again.. skins, I'm aware of this. I was speaking in general because there has been forum threads around the NS forum where people are headed towards "normal" phones such as Galaxy S2 & Sensation.
The build quality of Samsung phones are just as fine. The only complaint is the plastic backing. Other than that, its build is extraordinary. I personally just want Samsung to make it because the displays they offer are exclusive to their company and its just breathtaking. It would also feature Super AMOLED Plus or even their upcoming display thats even better than SAMOLED+. But I doubt it'd be in the Nexus 3 unless it can be ready by then,
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/samsung-to-finally-roll-out-flexible-amoled-displays-for-public/