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Im not new to WinMo and I'v had the HD2 for about 3 days now but coming from Android like most of u, and was wondering what solutions you have found for software. To me the Windows Market SUXs big time right now. nothing good worth downloading (free anyways) and i have noticed theres not manny, to no choices when it comes to photo editing or manipulating software
where can i get some software to make the phone more usable. seems very limited right out of the box for me and i wanna "Android it up" a bit if its at all possible... and i dont mean install android apps
i miss the:
photo editing apps in general, not just android ones
googlesky - i know, i know, its a google app but something similar should be out there.. no?
googlemaps - (see googlesky note) (winmo doesnt have turn by turn on the included googlemaps...). however, i dont blame google for the limitations, it is their software.
extra messaging apps
a working barcode scanner - very useful app
any type of flash?
so whats everyone doing/using??
thank
rlee
Take a look here for what you need, this is the real marketplace for WM 6.5.x!
For Flash Skyfire browser helps, and Smaberg has a version of Opera 10 with flash enabled.
I know there are several barcode readers, don't use it, but they're available, as are alternate messaging apps/UIs.
Don't know about photo editing apps, but I'm sure they must be out there too...
Windows mobile is a far easier platform to get software from. You just search the internet, as you would for PC software. You can always look on xda too, and remember that if you do a search in the HD2 forum, you're only searching a very small portion of the site. You're better searching the whole forum. Wacky.banana kindly posted a thread about searching. It's stickied in this forum.
Hi, You could try http://freewarepocketpc.net. It also has it's own app that you can install on your HD2 to download applications directly to it. Yes the WinMo apps are fragmented all over the place with no single point of download. A lot are crap, but the same can be said for Android and iPhone. You hear stories that developers are giving up on WinMo 6. For bar codes i use i-nigma and Mobiletag but they are far from perfect.
Not sure about your impression that most of the HD2 users come from an Android background, interesting point of view A lot are interested in porting Android to it though
NZtechfreak thanks for the replies, trying out the skyfire browser right now.
johncmolyneux, im far from a windows noob, but for this phone i have searched the web, both through yahoo and google, have searched through forums and all the software i find either isnt compatible or i dont find what im looking for exactly. As i posted above, picture editing software should be common but there is not one single app available that runs properly.
rlee
cMMY69 said:
Hi, You could try freewarepocketpc.net It also has it's own app that you can install on your HD2 to download applications directly to it. Yes the WinMo apps are fragmented all over the place with no single point of download. A lot are crap, but the same can be said for Android and iPhone. You hear stories that developers are giving up on WinMo 6. For bar codes i use i-nigma and Mobiletag but they are far from perfect.
Not sure about your impression that most of the HD2 users come from an Android background, interesting point of view A lot are interested in porting Android to it though
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Thanks for that link - installed the appstore from that site. Cool
As someone moving from Android, I've been a little disappointed thus far too.
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Not sure about your impression that most of the HD2 users come from an Android background, interesting point of view A lot are interested in porting Android to it though
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i didnt mean all but alot of us jumped onto the bandwagon in hopes that android will be available to us in the near future
and i wouldnt say im disapointed with the HD2, in fact i think its awesome! its just different from what i've been using for a year and a half. but this phone has features that would make it hard to go back to android hardware so lets load up the sofware and see what happens!
rlee
rlee008 said:
...but this phone has features that would make it hard to go back to android hardware
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So you've not seen the HTC Evo then?
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So you've not seen the HTC Evo then?
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yeah i have seen the evo but that's coming to Sprint not to t-mobile so my options are a bit limited cause I'm still under contract with them. i got hopes that the evo will help with the development of Android on the HD2.
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NZtechfreak thanks for the replies, trying out the skyfire browser right now.
johncmolyneux, im far from a windows noob, but for this phone i have searched the web, both through yahoo and google, have searched through forums and all the software i find either isnt compatible or i dont find what im looking for exactly. As i posted above, picture editing software should be common but there is not one single app available that runs properly.
rlee
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Resco Photo Manager - not free but not expensive either and has reasonably good photo editing capabilities. Certainly enought for mobile devices, given the assumption that hardcore editing would be done on a PC
Hi,
There are are few features that were announced at I/O but I haven't seen so far:
- being able to install apps from the market on your PC.
- being able to buy music on the market.
- being able to stream music from your PC.
Were these features even announced for froyo, or are they scheduled for gingerbread? Do you guys know?
I say give it a week or two. Maybe Google is still working on getting the features out.
They said "these are some of the things they are working on for the next release" so we likely won't see these fully implemented until Gingerbread.
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Hi,
There are are few features that were announced at I/O but I haven't seen so far:
- being able to install apps from the market on your PC.
- being able to buy music on the market.
- being able to stream music from your PC.
Were these features even announced for froyo, or are they scheduled for gingerbread? Do you guys know?
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Those aren't features of FroYo only, but of www.android.com as well which is obviously not yet re-launched.
Gingerbread features or a mid update. Not in this release for sure. They said that loud and clear in the keynote.
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Those aren't features of FroYo only, but of www.android.com as well which is obviously not yet re-launched.
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That's what I meant, they depend on the market webpage but is froyo equipped to take advantage of these possible changes in the market? I mean, if it happened tomorrow; would froyo benefit from it?
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That's what I meant, they depend on the market webpage but is froyo equipped to take advantage of these possible changes in the market? I mean, if it happened tomorrow; would froyo benefit from it?
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Only the first one. The other 2 need an additional software plus an updated music player. I'm sure they wanna get this service up and running as fast as possible and we will probably get an OTA with this in the future. My best guess is that it will happen when the new market web site is released.
Thanks mate, that made it clearer. What about...?
- The application data backup. Is our apps' data being backed up now? Do developers have to change their apps to take advantage of the feature? What if we uninstall an app? Where -and how- does the user notice the feature?
- Searching within the apps' data. Does this mean that the global search will be able to find stuff inside your apps, that is, as if you hit the search button while using an app? Same as you can search something in the music app and the youtube app, even while not using them? If so, again; do developers have to modify their apps to take advantage of this feature? How does the user notice it?
Both of those require developers to use the feature in code
As for the original features, in the keynote they said "something we are working on for beyond Froyo" Which to mean could mean that its for between Froyo and Gingerbread, after all the code needed has all been added in Froyo
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Both of those require developers to use the feature in code
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So, supposing a developer uses that specific feature in a certain app: would that mean that the app could only be used in 2.2 onwards? Or would older Android versions still be able to run it, albeit not using the feature?
A friend is developing a couple apps and he could use that information
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Gingerbread features or a mid update. Not in this release for sure. They said that loud and clear in the keynote.
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Yep. Before every one of these they clearly mentioned it.
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So, supposing a developer uses that specific feature in a certain app: would that mean that the app could only be used in 2.2 onwards? Or would older Android versions still be able to run it, albeit not using the feature?
A friend is developing a couple apps and he could use that information
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm assuming that since it uses new APIs, that it could only be run on 2.2, but the features just seem not important enough to justify losing a ton of potential users.
Cnet just put up a review of the Motorola Atrix, one of the most anticipated smart-phones. AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps . "You can't install third-party apps" and goes on to say "No change of heart on third-party applications, as that feature is disabled on the Atrix."
Google's(andy rubin) response is to say let me market decide. I truly agree with this statement but when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work. General consumers dont know know the difference between android phones. Consumer assume since they are getting an android phone, all android phones are the same. This blocking of 3rd party apps creates a bad user experience and users will blame android and not the carriers.
( http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-atrix-4g-at/4505-6452_7-34468396.html?tag=rvwBody )
Moved to Atrix General
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when the carriers are in power (two year contracts) it doesn't let the market work.
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ITA.
Looking on the slighter brighter side, CNET also said this (emphasis added):
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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It's not enough, but it's a start.
Side loading apps is such a trivial issue on any device, including devices on AT&T. Root not even required. So for the tiny percentage that want to do this (like rooters) the option is there.
No Third party software? No "FREE" bootloader? No reasonable laptop dock price? It really destroyed the purpose of open-sourced software.....I guess AT&T kills the fun of having an Android phone.....I went from "must have one" to "might have one"...sigh.....
My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
I've been considering switching to a different provider because I find it very expensive to buy unlocked phones just to get them in their enabled state. I know I would lose the flexibility of using the phone around the world, but I don't travel that much.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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My last 3 phones were not purchased from AT&T because of similar issues. AT&T modifies the phone to disable installation of anything not coming from their store.
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AT&T restricts third-party apps, which means you can download only from the Android Market - which is not AT&T's store, btw.
Is Verizon doing this same thing on their phones? If not I may consider switching to them. How about Sprint?
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As far as I know, AT&T is the only one of the 4 major carriers that blocks 3rd-party apps. As previously mentioned, getting around that restriction is extremely simple and does not require rooting the phone. The Sideload Wonder Machine, for one, is very easy to use.
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
shadowscreation said:
has no one in here heard of the side-load wondermachine come on seriously when theres a will theres a way thats my way around att crap O rama
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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The point is we shouldn't have to find ways around it, and buying these devices only says that it's OK to at&t.
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i know what your saying.but considering this is one of atts top o the line phones minus the bs tethering plan for laptop dock(totally ruined that for me by the way). im just hoping that the bootloader isnt crapped up im gonna wait a little bit on buying this till i know theres a way to custom rom the crap out of this phone so ya thats what im waiting on before i decide i want this phone or not if not owell there will be better ones later on this year im sure so guess we will see how this all works out
note to everyone i like grammatical errors and run-on sentences thats what makes life fun
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AT&T has blocked the ability to download 3rd party apps
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
peachpuff said:
Relax... thats what xda is for.
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No kidding. Do you really need to get your panties in a wad about sideloading? That's like complaining that it doesn't come rooted from the factory.
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Relax... thats what xda is for.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Yes i get that but im talking about common users. Common users will not use XDA or root there phone. Im also not talking just about just this phone. When carriers do stuff like this, it effects how people view android and its ease of use.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
i agree it shouldn't be an issue, it is and its an easy fix so I don't worry about it. Efuse is a bigger issue to development that this. If it does have efuse I won't buy it out of principal and I'll get an inspire.
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Common users aren't going to be side loading to begin with. If its not in the market they aren't going to care. If they care they can google it and find XDA or the plethora of other sites that detail the simple few step process.
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Agreed. Anyone who wants to sideload can figure it out. Its probably the easiest hack you could possibly do on your Android phone.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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I know I found out about the side-load wonder machine long before I found XDA. But it just wasn't enough for my Captivate lol. Always wanted more.
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And the Cappy always needs more! Here's to hoping the Atrix doesn't.
At least in the performance realm, it doesn't seem too need much help from hacks. Although I'm looking forward to seeing what can be accomplished...
This phone is a powerful machine to begin with. I will be happy once I can root just to delete any bloatware that I can't delete out the box. Sideloading will be nice too..
I just don't like the Motorola interface, launcher pro will be my first install..
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I have decided pass on the Atrix due to pricing tech concerns. I am looking forward to the samsung i9100.
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So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
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Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
Hmm ill try that today after school
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That's what I used to sl when I first got this phone.
cjtulowiecki said:
Hmm ill try that today after school
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Did it work?
I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?
havlaz said:
I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?
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Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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cjtulowiecki said:
So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
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don't worry about side-loading.
Use the stock HTC sync software that came with your Aria - when prompted to update, don't do it!
DanGeorges said:
Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
I got an hk/tw region phone and sideload is enabled natively
havlaz said:
i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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If it is what it looks like, (US version/AT&T branded) then you should be able to root no problem with unrevoked
http://unrevoked.com/#aria
I'm not sure about enabling RTL support, but I think people have been talking about it on these forums.
At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
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You can do side loading by using android injector. You can find it at at harmonyhollow or softpedia. Just type in Android Injector at google. It also allows you to install multiple apps at the same time.
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At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
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How do you get Apps to SD to work on this rom?
In the past I was using Darktremor's a2sd preinstalled on the Liberated Aria roms.
I am now on the Liberated version of the rom (thanks to Gene Poole - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272), but I don't know how to do apps2sd here. I have my sdcard partitioned with ext3 (512 Mb), but it's not getting used automatically.
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Can you not sideload w/ this?
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This is what I use to sideload and it works perfectly
ROFL 2.2.2 STILL NO ROOT if I was the owner of this phone id sell it!crap
So as some of you may already know, the latest update for the NFL Mobile app (came out this morning I think) has officially killed its functionality with rooted (or "non stock Android") devices. A story on Android Police can be see here.
At any rate, I saw a recent post on a GSIII forum (here)where the user claimed to have a workaround which, among other things, involved renaming the superuser.apk, however if you're using CM nowadays then you'll know there really isn't a separate apk - instead it is now integrated into the rom. That being said, does anyone have any idea similar to this that might work for tricking the app into thinking it isn't running on a rooted unit? I have no clue myself, but seeing as how no one has started a dedicated thread for this in the forum of the current Google flagship phone, I thought I'd get things started.
Thanks in advance people!
Well I guess it looks like no one has any ideas...? Oh well, a rare swing-and-a-miss for solutions in the xda community
A quick fix would be to just find the apk for an older version and install that one. That's what I'm currently trying to do, there's no reason for then to block us from using it just because we're rooted.
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A quick fix would be to just find the apk for an older version and install that one. That's what I'm currently trying to do, there's no reason for then to block us from using it just because we're rooted.
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Well yeah, I mean I already uninstalled and then restored a backed up version of the app using Titanium Backup. The problem is - and if you've been a user of the NFL apps over the last year or two then you'll know this - that the NFL app is not like most apps where each upgrade just adds some incremental upgrades or changes. With this app the upgrades are typically pushed out right before the start of the key timeframes of the NFL season: usually an update right before preseason; another before the start of the regular season; another at the start of the playoffs; another right before the Super Bowl; and once more right before the draft in April. Each update is specific to that time period of the season and usually contains the critical information/tweaks/additions/UI alterations specific for that segment of the year. Point being, after missing an update or two, the app becomes extremely outdated and eventually useless. And that's why, in the mid-to-long term, just using the older version of the apk unfortunately isn't a useful alternative. Damn you NFL! Now we just have to hope the xda community will come to the rescue as they usually are able to do
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Well yeah, I mean I already uninstalled and then restored a backed up version of the app using Titanium Backup. The problem is - and if you've been a user of the NFL apps over the last year or two then you'll know this - that the NFL app is not like most apps where each upgrade just adds some incremental upgrades or changes. With this app the upgrades are typically pushed out right before the start of the key timeframes of the NFL season: usually an update right before preseason; another before the start of the regular season; another at the start of the playoffs; another right before the Super Bowl; and once more right before the draft in April. Each update is specific to that time period of the season and usually contains the critical information/tweaks/additions/UI alterations specific for that segment of the year. Point being, after missing an update or two, the app becomes extremely outdated and eventually useless. And that's why, in the mid-to-long term, just using the older version of the apk unfortunately isn't a useful alternative. Damn you NFL! Now we just have to hope the xda community will come to the rescue as they usually are able to do
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Ooooh gotcha. I didn't realize that that's how NFL ran their app. That's really annoying.
i'm not rooted, but that does seem like somebody went off the deep end with this app. rooting a device won't hurt their revenue, in fact, it will probably increase it from allowing ALL Android (and iOS) devices access the app. instead, they're cutting off access to a HUGE chunk of their fans, present and future. in essence, they're biting the hand that feeds them.
i voted the app down in the app store out of principal alone.
I am extremely displeased with this as well and am searching for a solution. Leave it to Verizon to try to control how you use YOUR phone.
hey is this an nfl app for verizon or a market version for all?
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hey is this an nfl app for verizon or a market version for all?
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From what I gather there are two different versions - the one that comes on Verizon phones, and the one that anyone else can grab from the Play Store. I have the Play Store version (as a TMo customer).
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Its working for me on pa
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Boss.
CNexus said:
@joeski27
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395333
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And THAT is why the xda community is PRICELESS! You're my hero, well done and a big tip of the cap to you, CNex! Long live xda, and long live Android!!! And btw I'll do my best to spread the word to the countless other forums on xda for other devices with people trying to find th same solution!
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And THAT is why the xda community is PRICELESS! You're my hero, well done and a big tip of the cap to you, CNex! Long live xda, and long live Android!!! And btw I'll do my best to spread the word to the countless other forums on xda for other devices with people trying to find th same solution!
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Awesome, sounds good
Just in posting my thread I got a ton of hits of people freaking out about the new app...lol
FYI, they have fixed the app and it is now working perfectly fine on rooted devices strait from the play store
I might be the only one it's not working for. Wondering if anyone can help.
I cannot get 95% of the buttons to work in the Fantasy section of the app. Not only that, when I said 'to hell with the app' and went to their mobile site (which looks exactly like the app), I got the same thing... 95% of the buttons on the mobile site wouldn't do anything.
Now, on my N7, everything works fine.
Any ideas?
Edit: It was Ad Away. Can't use the app while it's running. Now I'll try to find the hosts file and see if I can edit the NFL entries out of it.