Hi,
There are are few features that were announced at I/O but I haven't seen so far:
- being able to install apps from the market on your PC.
- being able to buy music on the market.
- being able to stream music from your PC.
Were these features even announced for froyo, or are they scheduled for gingerbread? Do you guys know?
I say give it a week or two. Maybe Google is still working on getting the features out.
They said "these are some of the things they are working on for the next release" so we likely won't see these fully implemented until Gingerbread.
frandavid100 said:
Hi,
There are are few features that were announced at I/O but I haven't seen so far:
- being able to install apps from the market on your PC.
- being able to buy music on the market.
- being able to stream music from your PC.
Were these features even announced for froyo, or are they scheduled for gingerbread? Do you guys know?
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Those aren't features of FroYo only, but of www.android.com as well which is obviously not yet re-launched.
Gingerbread features or a mid update. Not in this release for sure. They said that loud and clear in the keynote.
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Those aren't features of FroYo only, but of www.android.com as well which is obviously not yet re-launched.
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That's what I meant, they depend on the market webpage but is froyo equipped to take advantage of these possible changes in the market? I mean, if it happened tomorrow; would froyo benefit from it?
frandavid100 said:
That's what I meant, they depend on the market webpage but is froyo equipped to take advantage of these possible changes in the market? I mean, if it happened tomorrow; would froyo benefit from it?
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Only the first one. The other 2 need an additional software plus an updated music player. I'm sure they wanna get this service up and running as fast as possible and we will probably get an OTA with this in the future. My best guess is that it will happen when the new market web site is released.
Thanks mate, that made it clearer. What about...?
- The application data backup. Is our apps' data being backed up now? Do developers have to change their apps to take advantage of the feature? What if we uninstall an app? Where -and how- does the user notice the feature?
- Searching within the apps' data. Does this mean that the global search will be able to find stuff inside your apps, that is, as if you hit the search button while using an app? Same as you can search something in the music app and the youtube app, even while not using them? If so, again; do developers have to modify their apps to take advantage of this feature? How does the user notice it?
Both of those require developers to use the feature in code
As for the original features, in the keynote they said "something we are working on for beyond Froyo" Which to mean could mean that its for between Froyo and Gingerbread, after all the code needed has all been added in Froyo
tomfreay said:
Both of those require developers to use the feature in code
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So, supposing a developer uses that specific feature in a certain app: would that mean that the app could only be used in 2.2 onwards? Or would older Android versions still be able to run it, albeit not using the feature?
A friend is developing a couple apps and he could use that information
lorin.bute said:
Gingerbread features or a mid update. Not in this release for sure. They said that loud and clear in the keynote.
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Yep. Before every one of these they clearly mentioned it.
frandavid100 said:
So, supposing a developer uses that specific feature in a certain app: would that mean that the app could only be used in 2.2 onwards? Or would older Android versions still be able to run it, albeit not using the feature?
A friend is developing a couple apps and he could use that information
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm assuming that since it uses new APIs, that it could only be run on 2.2, but the features just seem not important enough to justify losing a ton of potential users.
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I thought it was common sense, but my buddy with a G1 was like "I didn't know you could do that!?"
OK... so... Go to MarketPlace, Menu key--My Downloads.... if it says installed, you're all good. If it says Install and is a program you HAVE installed? Click it. Will overwrite the old version automatically.
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
neoobs said:
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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Yeah, have heard it doesn't update that fast?
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
jashsu said:
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Oh wow.. thanks! That's even worse!
Some apps (Twitdroid is a good example) alerts you if there's a new update; and most apps have contact details for the developer, so maybe drop them an email and ask for some auto update code to be added into your favourite apps? Bummer though, you still have to go into the market to update them.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
neoobs said:
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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True, I suppose it is a matter of personal preference. Since I only have a half dozen apps installed on my G1, it's rather trivial to just check the download list. I balance that against having yet another app installed, not to mention having my app installation habits data-mined by aTrackdog.
neoobs said:
Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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I am not a developer but can see a potential for an exploit on this maybe? Sending out info isn't ever really a good idea. Even if it's set to only send out this and that data, I have seen exploits take advantage of less.
Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
aTrackDog work nice
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
neoobs said:
Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
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Actually it is an open source project. However project leaders have very broad discretion to guide the direction a project takes. A good example would be the Android Open Source Project.
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Yeah the average Googler received a $1000 holiday bonus last year.
wow 1000 dollar bonus... that is really good... but I understand why that is cut in half this year especially with the way the economy is.
Just curiosity: Are people that are reporting "bugs" (though to me it sounds like apps that need to be updated for full compatibility with Froyo) running the OTA updated 2.2, or manually updated 2.2?
Edit: Changed name to Froyo(HACK) as recommended by someone since no one seems to be running a genuine OTA updated Froyo
Manually-updated using the official signed update from Google, for me. I don't have most of the bugs that have been reported here; the only one I'm currently aware of is that two applications I updated via the market this morning are no longer shown in the "Downloads" list, although they are labeled as "installed" when I search for them in the market. Other than that, no problems here.
crackness said:
Just curiosity: Are people that are reporting "bugs" (though to me it sounds like apps that need to be updated for full compatibility with Froyo) running the OTA updated 2.2, or manually updated 2.2?
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No one on the entirety of XDA has upgraded via the OTA update. Everyone hacked.
(The OTA was press-only for people who attended Google I/O.)
Paul22000 said:
No one on the entirety of XDA has upgraded via the OTA update. Everyone hacked.
(The OTA was press-only for people who attended Google I/O.)
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Ahhh.... I thought that was only speculation :/
/trying my hardest not to ***** and moan...
Paul22000 said:
No one on the entirety of XDA has upgraded via the OTA update. Everyone hacked.
(The OTA was press-only for people who attended Google I/O.)
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Exactly.. About time more people acknowledged this.
logger said:
Exactly.. About time more people acknowledged this.
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I understand what you're saying.
However Google have released an OTA update to the MEDIA!
They'll grab this with both hands and show how the NEW messiah has fallen over again and how we should have all bought iPhones.....
I do believe this Froyo is HIGHLY unpolished and very dissapointing. It should have been released when it was fully ready.
I'm desperately trying to get back to CM but it seems to have screwed my phone and I'm stuck........
wmm said:
Manually-updated using the official signed update from Google, for me. I don't have most of the bugs that have been reported here; the only one I'm currently aware of is that two applications I updated via the market this morning are no longer shown in the "Downloads" list, although they are labeled as "installed" when I search for them in the market. Other than that, no problems here.
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The market problem has a fix in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6572697#post6572697
google needs to provide an official fix for the issue so we don't have to use the hack one
punk4bc said:
The market problem has a fix in this thread...google needs to provide an official fix for the issue so we don't have to use the hack one
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yoo mean a hack for a hack
I think I'll just wait for the official Google OTA.
Good thing that people around here are chasing up all the last minute bugs for Google though. I am sure they would prefer to see them now rather than after releasing it to the general public.
logger said:
yoo mean a hack for a hack
I think I'll just wait for the official Google OTA.
Good thing that people around here are chasing up all the last minute bugs for Google though. I am sure they would prefer to see them now rather than after releasing it to the general public.
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good point lol
I'm waiting for the official Google too
Yeah I updated with Paul's version and I would have stayed on froyo but having annoying camera bugs.
I dont think Google meant this as an actual release since you Market isn't allowing protected apps etc with the froyo fingerprint. etc.
So i'm back on Cyan and all is well with the world.
I did however keep the newer radio to test it out.
It would be great if someone around here could change EVERY thread title that mentions this version to FROYOHACK so that once the real official one is released, we dont have to wade through all this pre-release BS. I know it is not possible but just thought.
What were your camera bugs?
I did Paul's too and mine worked 100%. Still have the new radio and according to speed tests it is doing better than the old one
punk4bc said:
What were your camera bugs?
I did Paul's too and mine worked 100%. Still have the new radio and according to speed tests it is doing better than the old one
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I've posted it in the general forum. QIK app didn't work and if you use the stock camera app and slide to the camcorder then BACK to the camera, N1 would crash.
I posted the logcat and it appears there are some incompatibilities somewhere deep. I tried every kind of wipe and 'band-aid' that I could to get it working and failed miserably.
But I figured since i'm on an AT&T N1 that this release wasn't intended for me and there must be some kind of subtle differences.
*shrug* we'll see.
wmm said:
Manually-updated using the official signed update from Google, for me. I don't have most of the bugs that have been reported here; the only one I'm currently aware of is that two applications I updated via the market this morning are no longer shown in the "Downloads" list, although they are labeled as "installed" when I search for them in the market. Other than that, no problems here.
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One thing I have learn is a app has a widget and it is moved to the sdcard it will show install but not show. I moved these to the phone and they show now.
logger said:
It would be great if someone around here could change EVERY thread title that mentions this version to FROYOHACK so that once the real official one is released, we dont have to wade through all this pre-release BS. I know it is not possible but just thought.
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Hey thanks MOD (or whoever did it) for renaming the thread. Excellent Job...
I don't know if it's a bug, but I can't find FM radio anywhere... and I believe it was announced.
logger said:
Hey thanks MOD (or whoever did it) for renaming the thread. Excellent Job...
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Hah, as OP, I changed it. I didn't realize (though I had read it somewhere else) that the only people who got the OTA update were press/developers who went to I/O.
FOR THOSE JUST READING NOW: According to Paul (and where ever else I read online), anyone else with Froyo updated manually, so take current issues with a grain of salt.
Deusdies said:
I don't know if it's a bug, but I can't find FM radio anywhere... and I believe it was announced.
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The FM radio stuff was never announced OFFICIALLY. I do remember it being something rumored, but I don't ever remember Google saying it was an addition to Froyo. AND, even if it was announced, read my reiteration above about no normal consumers having the Official OTA update to Froyo.
ibegary said:
I've posted it in the general forum. QIK app didn't work and if you use the stock camera app and slide to the camcorder then BACK to the camera, N1 would crash.
I posted the logcat and it appears there are some incompatibilities somewhere deep. I tried every kind of wipe and 'band-aid' that I could to get it working and failed miserably.
But I figured since i'm on an AT&T N1 that this release wasn't intended for me and there must be some kind of subtle differences.
*shrug* we'll see.
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I running Froyo on the AT&T Nexus on Telus here in Canada and so far I am having no issues, maybe some app that you installed is causing the crash...weird tho.
crackness said:
Hah, as OP, I changed it. I didn't realize (though I had read it somewhere else) that the only people who got the OTA update were press/developers who went to I/O.
FOR THOSE JUST READING NOW: According to Paul (and where ever else I read online), anyone else with Froyo updated manually, so take current issues with a grain of salt.
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Sort of ironic now, that people will avoid this thread in favour of ones without HACK in the title, as they will not want to accept that they have a hacked version on their device You cant win I guess.
Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
mmanjj said:
Here is the link:
http://android-developers.blogspot....id+Developers+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Reader
Looks exciting!!
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Very cool! More NFC functionality is awesome, IMO! Thanks for posting man!
Now where's the manual download link
Too bad it doesn't include the Random Reboot fix, as that (IMO) is a much more needed update. *smh*
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/pho...s-new-nfc-features-random-reboot-bug-remains/
how come i didnt get the update???
Same as before; roll-out is staggered so not everyone will auto-download it on day-1. Could try calling *#*#checkin#*#* & see if that kicks it in... didn't for me though. Hence the hope someone posts the file so it can be manually installed
Noone has it yet, be patient
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this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
looking forward to the OTA update
Excited about NFC, but far more disappointed by lack of major bug fixes.
More locales inside? Any one knows something about this?
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2012iawait said:
this update doesn't really give any benefit to the users right?
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Not unless you really love NFC.
thommcg said:
Not unless you really love NFC.
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disagree. This will allow users to share contact info directly from phone to phone. it will also allow you to write to NFC tags which can be very cool. So for example, I have a watch I wear that is a NFC tag with 4k of memory. With the new release I can write change the content of what is on that tag. Right now I keep it as my contact info.
Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
SupaDupaFly24 said:
Who said major bugs won't be fixed? Clearly google decided to showcase 2.3.3 because of the NFC thing. Fixed bugs has never been showcased in change logs by google. So there is still hope!!!
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Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
zorak950 said:
Yeah, the idea of true changelogs is apparently alien to Google's Android team.
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Hehe they take their cues from Team Douche I'm sure there will be more fixes and alterations than that post implied so I wouldn't be too worried about it not stating specifically what is changing.
Si_NZ said:
I once had the idea of using NFC as input for password, like an electronic key. This will allow greater convenience once device level encryption is supported. I hope this can be realized some day.
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The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
thepro8 said:
The hardware supports it. NFC with a secure element provides a new level of security. Just needs to be implemented in items. they already have house locks and car door locks that use this type of system. Just need PCs to adopt it too.
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My understanding is that technology uses RFID not NFC.
Will this install on a stock, rooted ROM on a custom kernel?
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So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
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Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
Hmm ill try that today after school
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That's what I used to sl when I first got this phone.
cjtulowiecki said:
Hmm ill try that today after school
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Did it work?
I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?
havlaz said:
I want to understand ..
The updates are made automatically?
If I purchased from ebay the device in 3 / 3 and it had not arrived yet, am I expected to see within 2.2 and unable to root?
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Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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cjtulowiecki said:
So I decided I'd give the new official update for the HTC aria a shot despite all the talk about not being able to root it yet. So far some pretty important things I've noticed is the fact that there is no sideloading. I saw someone on here say that it would be able to sideload - incorrect. The second big thing is the fact that it does not have the touchpad button wake. You have to use the power button which is a huge flaw for me. Someone also said that it would be capable of overclocking- as far as I know right now I don't think you can, but I can't be 100% sure yet because of the lack of sideloading and the 4.99 for setcpu. Some of the cool new features I do like is the mobile hotspot capabilities, live wallpapers, and the market update. So now I want to see what others have to say about it. Please come tell me what you've found!
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don't worry about side-loading.
Use the stock HTC sync software that came with your Aria - when prompted to update, don't do it!
DanGeorges said:
Did you purchase a used phone? Was it already rooted? Did the seller install the latest update from HTC/AT&T?
The 2.2 update from at&t is not an Over-the-air (OTA) update. It's offered by at&t via the HTC web site. The update, therefore, takes work on the user's part. It's not automatic.
That said, if you purchase a phone from eBay that is factory fresh from at&t, it's possible it already has the 2.2 update - I put the odds at 50%.
For what it's worth, the only thing wrong with the stock build of this device's ROM is the at&t bloatware/crapware. Other than that, it's a solid device, and there are ways to customize the phone to your liking.
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i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
I got an hk/tw region phone and sideload is enabled natively
havlaz said:
i'm from israel, and i need RTL
i don't care about the rom,
and to change the framework.jar i need root...
here is the buy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...DuFKhKg%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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If it is what it looks like, (US version/AT&T branded) then you should be able to root no problem with unrevoked
http://unrevoked.com/#aria
I'm not sure about enabling RTL support, but I think people have been talking about it on these forums.
At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
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You can do side loading by using android injector. You can find it at at harmonyhollow or softpedia. Just type in Android Injector at google. It also allows you to install multiple apps at the same time.
Call_er_Roxie said:
At first my phone felt quick when it was processing, but initial response to screen presses felt slightly laggy. I was concerned. But after running it for a few weeks now, without a task killer, it feels like quite a quick more featured phone. Seems like there was a calibration and optimization duration there. Maybe it's in my head? Very happy with the upgrade, especially for apps to SD!
Oh, and add gingerbread keyboard from the market and the phone is twice as good!
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How do you get Apps to SD to work on this rom?
In the past I was using Darktremor's a2sd preinstalled on the Liberated Aria roms.
I am now on the Liberated version of the rom (thanks to Gene Poole - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272), but I don't know how to do apps2sd here. I have my sdcard partitioned with ext3 (512 Mb), but it's not getting used automatically.
Tx Redneck said:
Can you not sideload w/ this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
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This is what I use to sideload and it works perfectly
ROFL 2.2.2 STILL NO ROOT if I was the owner of this phone id sell it!crap
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/1...ak-in-two-bloatware-apps-on-the-galaxy-nexus/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/1...ak-in-two-bloatware-apps-on-the-galaxy-nexus/
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Not necessarily. Those apps might not be integrated into the rom.
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Not necessarily. Those apps might not be integrated into the rom.
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They are. The pics are in the galaxy nexus general forums. This killed my dream of getting a Nexus phone...... Will the international version work on Sprint???
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Qwallace70129 said:
They are. The pics are in the galaxy nexus general forums. This killed my dream of getting a Nexus phone...... Will the international version work on Sprint???
Sent from my 1.6 ghz 3.2 rockin A500
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I think what he meant is that those apps aren't put there until after the rom is installed, meaning Verizon put them there.
You make your statement with such certainty, yet provide nothing to back it up - why are you so sure?
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The pics show it...... ICS has a built in uninstaller/disable feature...... There is no option to uninstall or delete.... Only disable... Meaning its cooked into the rom(if I've learned correctly) which also means all updates have to go through Verizon. No bueno for a Nexus phone....
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Qwallace70129 said:
The pics show it...... ICS has a built in uninstaller/disable feature...... There is no option to uninstall or delete.... Only disable... Meaning its cooked into the rom(if I've learned correctly) which also means all updates have to go through Verizon. No bueno for a Nexus phone....
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As long as Google pushed the update with a data backup, it shouldn't be an issue, correct? Google would update everything except carrier apps. Carrier could update them like the way Sprint updated Sprint Navigation to Telenav or some other delivery method.
Qwallace70129 said:
The pics show it...... ICS has a built in uninstaller/disable feature...... There is no option to uninstall or delete.... Only disable... Meaning its cooked into the rom(if I've learned correctly) which also means all updates have to go through Verizon. No bueno for a Nexus phone....
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I think that only means that the app is installed into the system app directory, instead of the user app dir. I suppose I will have to adb push an apk into my system app folder to confirm, but I'm fairly certain that the lack of an uninstall button is because android never gives that option for system apps...
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styles420 said:
I think that only means that the app is installed into the system app directory, instead of the user app dir. I suppose I will have to adb push an apk into my system app folder to confirm, but I'm fairly certain that the lack of an uninstall button is because android never gives that option for system apps...
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Please say it would be that easy.... But then again it defeats the purpose of me buying a nexus if I have to get rid of bloatware.
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Supposed to be a developer platform....what developer is going to want VZ Backup assistant...lol.
Verizon: You are dumb.
Oh well, I still believe it will be google updated.
Guys, in ICS there is a feature in which you can hide the apps.
Also i dont think this really matters. The two apps included are something verizon users may want. Looking at your status with the company and backing up information with the carrier hardly seem like bloat apps to me. Also, this is only the case for verizon and not other carriers like sprint, which can uninstall bloatware apps. I still believe google will be pushing out their own updates.
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I'm a little curious why this would discourage anyone here from owning this phone. Are any of you guys buying it with the intention of running stock?
Even if people plan on using cooked roms they still want google to push the updates because that means they would come quicker and therefore the developers would have new versions to create new roms off of.
See. I am learnimg.
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Guys, in ICS there is a feature in which you can hide the apps.
Also i dont think this really matters. The two apps included are something verizon users may want. Looking at your status with the company and backing up information with the carrier hardly seem like bloat apps to me. Also, this is only the case for verizon and not other carriers like sprint, which can uninstall bloatware apps. I still believe google will be pushing out their own updates.
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Verizon users that want them could just install them though! that's the complete opposite of them being installed and people who don't want them being unable to uninstall them...
faceless said:
Verizon users that want them could just install them though! that's the complete opposite of them being installed and people who don't want them being unable to uninstall them...
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The Verizon customers that don't want them are almost certainly going to know at least enough to be able to remove them, but many of the users that would want them would also fall into that special category of users that know just the bare minimum to be able to use the phone - average users, the ones even XDA noobs can run circles around. They make up the majority of Verizon's customer base, so the big V will cater to them. (They're also a lot more likely to pay for things that can be had for free, because they're a lot less likely to know that those things can be free... it's a two-fold win for any service provider)
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Simply put, google can still update the phone.
I don't understand how the OP jumped to the conclusion he did. How does two "bloatware" apps point to "the end of nexus geting [sic] updates directly from google"?
Nonsensical, I tell you!
AmericanJedi001 said:
I don't understand how the OP jumped to the conclusion he did. How does two "bloatware" apps point to "the end of nexus geting [sic] updates directly from google"?
Nonsensical, I tell you!
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I think this is the logic:
When a phone gets major customization from a carrier such as Sense or Touchwiz, it complicates the updates and delays updates due to additional testing and debugging needed on these customized ROMS. People are assuming that is the reason why US carriers get updates so much later than the much more plain European versions. So, the OP assumes that adding two Verizon apps is somehow as complex a modification as adding Touchwiz, therefor it will delay the release of jellybean, or whatever the next version will be called.
Seems pretty silly to me.
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I think this is the logic:
When a phone gets major customization from a carrier such as Sense or Touchwiz, it complicates the updates and delays updates due to additional testing and debugging needed on these customized ROMS. People are assuming that is the reason why US carriers get updates so much later than the much more plain European versions. So, the OP assumes that adding two Verizon apps is somehow as complex a modification as adding Touchwiz, therefor it will delay the release of jellybean, or whatever the next version will be called.
Seems pretty silly to me.
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What I was trying to say all along. Thank you.
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