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I don't know what all your experiences are, but I noticed the past few days that my epic is getting hot on the back.
I also noticed that my battery is draining more so than usual. When I got the update last week my battery life sucked, but now since this overheat thing it's gotten worse. It drops a lot even when in standby.
I do not have gps, wifi, anything else on. I am not rooted. Didn't do any battery tweaks. This is completely stock di18.
This is normal use with 3g. It's getting annoying and I'm hoping someone has an answer. Thanks!
Do you have any email accounts configured in the mail application?
This happened once or twice - I rebooted the phone and all was peachy.
Sounds like you have a rogue process wearin it out.
Yeah my phone overheated yesterday while charging....this phone has a few more steps to go before it really beats my hero...
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I partly found out what the problem was, but it seems you guys are ahead of me. I had some process keeping my CPU running at 95-100% nonstop. I still haven't figured out what the process was, as now it is back to the normal 5-15%, but I'll have to keep an eye on it now.
the task manager widget turns red and it shows you what process was causing it...for me it was the xda app...a few times.
I think my problem was not backing out of WordFeud. I didn't notice anything on the task manager though. Hasn't happened since that one time.
this happens to me when i'm plugged in and using gmail. screen flickers and then shuts off. the screen-off battery indicator shows the batt. gauge and a little thermometer sign next to it indicating it's too hot.
wtf?!?! this has to be a defect. anyway, is there any official word on this? any pr from sammy/sprint?
i have read elsewhere about some epics resetting themselves a few times a day which could indicate an issue with heating (at least on a pc). so if you think it might be hardware its possible. otherwise keep doing what your doing, monitor your processes for anything thats eating it up, go to about phone > battery use > cell standby to see your time without signal. the higher this is the more battery use. also, might want to consider a startup manager to prevent the 2 DRM files (search forums) from running as this can affect batt life too
you can also use setcpu even (free on here, search it) to throttle your cpu down when it hits a certain temp.
This is very interesting... My wife and I both have this phone, she has had this happen several times after the last update (I though she was just crazy). Me on the other hand... No problem!
I need to look into this a little deeper.
The only time my epic's battery gets hot is during heavy use or gps. Gps/Nav makes it heat up like a mofo. But other than that... *knocks on wood* Its all good, no problems. As far at battery life, I am rooted and using SetCPU to turn down the processor while the screen is off, helps a ton. Not using anything other than that... was using juicedefender but then I started not getting calls or text...
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One thing, I learned, that didn't help my battery was putting my phone in the locker at work. That thing must have killed my TWS and ate my battery alive.
i feel like this thread will start to die but i had a weird somewhat related issue last night. i too have had maybe 3-4 times where i woke up to my charging phone with the red LED and a screen that would not turn on, battery pull, worked fine.
however, THIS morning my phone would freeze like 30 seconds after boot EVERY time. tried a few things to no avail until I wiped, reinstalled my ROM (aosp 0.4.1) and the data from a previous backup (which was the way i got that ROM to first boot successfully according to tips in that thread).
so this worked, but i couldnt figure out why my other steps wouldnt. had to be something in the data partition of my system at the time, since changing that worked. the only thing i could think of is that app watchdog which someone mentioned to track processor usage by apps. anyone else ever experience this?
I have experienced this once when I was playing Robodefense while the phone was charging. My phone tends to get a little warm when it charges, and hot if I run something intensive while its charging. Wondering if this will be an issue when I use this phone for GPS nav while plugged into my car.
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"I'm having this problem too...I didn't get any warranty for this either. Any reasons onto why this is happening...I woke up this morning and picked up my burning phone lol the temp was at 50C so I took out the battery and let it sit for 15 mins...it went down to 30C, then after not touching it for another 15..it was at 17C...very odd...what should I do, this crap is going to die within the next hour I'm worried it will fry the hard drive or something. Need help! " - I wrote this on a diff. forum a couple days ago
I dont have anything on, no wifi, gps, or any 4g (lol only if I could find it)...I even got rid of my facebook/twitter/weather updater widgets. The only thing that updates is email, and that's only if I click on it. The battery has been dying a lot faster and I charge my phone next to the window now because its like 20 degrees outside here in Chicago, so that brings down my phones temp lol....and today, my phone's battery life went from 100 to 5 percent in about three hours of barely using it...wtf?!
Also, another problem...sometimes when I lock my phone and unlock it after taking it out my pocket or something, the screen doesn't seem to respond...I keep swiping my finger over it to put in my password and it wont do anything and it only works when I slide up my phone for the horizontal view. This happens like 4 out of every 10 times I open phone.
Very embarrassing especially if your trying to get someones number down, I stopped showing off the phone now ...lol
past 2-4 days.... my nexus just dies suddenly with the battery drained. checking history with system panel shows that the cpu usage just suddenly shoots up to 100%! and i dont know what app is causing it.
just updated locale and extended controls + a lot of other apps. but my main main suspects are locale and extended controls (since EC posted that they are having problems with the update on the nexus)
any ideas? any other apps i could use to target and isolate the rogue app that drains my battery?
get a task manager and see ?
also, it may just be time for a new battery. ebay. $13 shipped, 2400 mah
antikryst said:
past 2-4 days.... my nexus just dies suddenly with the battery drained. checking history with system panel shows that the cpu usage just suddenly shoots up to 100%! and i dont know what app is causing it.
just updated locale and extended controls + a lot of other apps. but my main main suspects are locale and extended controls (since EC posted that they are having problems with the update on the nexus)
any ideas? any other apps i could use to target and isolate the rogue app that drains my battery?
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System Panel HAS a history, and you can see which apps are using CPU, so have you done that? Is the phone getting hot? It would if the CPU was running 100%. And even at that, it wouldn't immediately die, I've never exactly tried to see how long 100% cpu utilization takes to drain the battery but I'd have to guess it's at least 2-3 hours.
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System Panel HAS a history, and you can see which apps are using CPU, so have you done that? Is the phone getting hot? It would if the CPU was running 100%. And even at that, it wouldn't immediately die, I've never exactly tried to see how long 100% cpu utilization takes to drain the battery but I'd have to guess it's at least 2-3 hours.
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seems fine at first then when i notice its hot... it is already about to restart. couldnt even get to check the app usage on system panel. after reboot... the app usage in system panel goes away. just checked now.. nothing is eating the battery up according to system panel.
guess the rogue app just turns on and eats up all the juice at some point in time. weird.
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System Panel HAS a history, and you can see which apps are using CPU, so have you done that? Is the phone getting hot? It would if the CPU was running 100%. And even at that, it wouldn't immediately die, I've never exactly tried to see how long 100% cpu utilization takes to drain the battery but I'd have to guess it's at least 2-3 hours.
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seems fine at first then when i notice its hot... it is already about to restart. couldnt even get to check the app usage on system panel. after reboot... the app usage in system panel goes away. just checked now.. nothing is eating the battery up according to system panel.
guess the rogue app just turns on and eats up all the juice at some point in time. weird.
Do you have SetCPU or anything else enabled with a performance-oriented governor or similar? That would likely keep the CPU pegged at the max without really doing anything.
Try disabling as many applications as you can until you can pinpoint which one is misbehaving.
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My phone is experiencing atrocious battery life, and so is a friend of mine's. We are both on FRG83D, and it seems to have been the trigger for the problem. He is on AT&T and I am on T-Mo. My wife also has an N1 on FRG83D on T-Mo, but her phone is not having the problem. Her phone is set up very Vanilla, my friend and I have more system altering stuff on ours but nothing too wild, and none of the phones have ever been rooted. The two problem phones both use Launcher Pro and Extended Controls, I am not sure what else we have in common in our apps. I installed System Panel today to try and figure out what is happening, but I still can't find an obvious culprit. While the phone is sitting on the dock charging the CPU seems to be idling under 10% and when I pock it up and look at System Panel you can watch the CPU spike to the upper ranges if you scroll the screen but otherwise it is idling under 10%. The display is always the highest on battery usage and the worst app shows as System Panel, but that is basically what I expect to see. I am ready to start removing apps to see if I can get it back to normal unless anyone has an idea of how to better diagnose the issue.
I had this issue a while ago. "system" was taking up all my CPU, and I couldn't find any details about what was really causing the problem. I couldn't remember how I finally found out about the problem (I think I spent a night reading the logcat to see what was wrong). I couldn't even use the phone, it became horribly sluggish, and battery went flat in mere hours. Turns out, I had a bad picture or two in my SD Card, and the media indexer went in a loop trying to interpret the files. For some weird reasons, the same files got Windows Explorer "confused" too.
Try to remove or format your SD card and see if it's doing the same. I know it's more of an anecdote than a real known issue, but it won't hurt trying
oh wow i was hoping someone was having the same problem... left it overnight unplugged so far so good. now im really beginning to think its extended controls. took out the widget and replaced it with the stock one for now.
IDLING at 10% CPU usage??? Mine idle at 0% if nothing is active. Average 3% over time.
You guys should watch and see what's using hte most CPU, SystemPanel can do it if you look at the history (free for a week or 10 days or something, or buy it to keep the function), but also look at Spare Parts, you can install it from the market. It gives you visibility to a few more Android settings/info menus which you can see which apps are keeping the system awake etc, it can help pinpoint what's going on.
Something very bad is happening. When you all figure it out, report back.
When I look at system panel the little CPU circle graph stays at 100% for the most part. I don't understand if its accurate.
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Do you have the app 'Extended Control' installed? The last update is very buggy and is causing bad battery life and broke the camera app on the N1. Check comments on the market. They are working on a fix.
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Looks like Extended Controls
I did some testing and Extended Controls does appear to be the culprit. Dev seems to be aware, hopefully they get it sorted.
Edit-Overnight and battery life is back to normal with Extended Controls uninstalled. I didn't suspect it at first because they had already released an update after FRG83D, but apparently it was broken worse than they knew. I hope they fix it soon, I like the app.
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When I look at system panel the little CPU circle graph stays at 100% for the most part. I don't understand if its accurate.
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It obviously should not sit at 100%, look and see what app is using CPU, it ain't rocket science.. Mine idles around 3% with my apps, mainly K9 and Tasker, weather etc..
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So I have been having some battery life issues like some users not being able to get a full day. But there has been a few times I have had my battery at %50 and then after a reboot it starts up and says plug in charger your battery is dead. Today I had 90% only been using for a few hours. All I did today was remove handcent and put on go sms. I also installed juice defender but I have it just on default settings. Go sms was stuck in a search so I rebooted my phone. I had 90% battery and when i started back up it says my battery needs to be charged. I have done the whole charge / whipe battery thing before didnt seem to help.
Oh and i'm running dk28 mightnight rom.
sounds like a bad battery. Most sprint stores with service centers have a cadex machine that they can test your battery with.
I have been seeing the exact same thing. I will reboot the phone with what appears to be a lot of battery life left and when it comes back I'll get told I'm at something like 10% and I should connect the charger. Luckily I have two batteries and I keep the second one with me in the pocket case/charger.
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Same issue here with drastic change in charge level after flashing a ROM or even just flashing a new app or UI change via CWM when using my cheap ass Chinese eBay batteries. I've yet to be able to recreate the problem while using my stock battery - and I've tried. If you are using the stock battery, it's probably going bad. If you're using a cheap eBay battery, well, you get what you pay for I guess.
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Same issue here with drastic change in charge level after flashing a ROM or even just flashing a new app or UI change via CWM when using my cheap ass Chinese eBay batteries. I've yet to be able to recreate the problem while using my stock battery - and I've tried. If you are using the stock battery, it's probably going bad. If you're using a cheap eBay battery, well, you get what you pay for I guess.
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Both of my batteries are stock and I don't think it's a bad battery. I can go several days with great battery life from both batteries and then out of the blue I'll restart the phone for whatever reason and POW! Come to think of it the only reason why I usually restart the phone is to either swap batteries or because performance has dropped dramatically. Now I am wondering if there is a run away process that is chewing up the battery but the usage isn't being reported until after the reboot.
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Both of my batteries are stock and I don't think it's a bad battery. I can go several days with great battery life from both batteries and then out of the blue I'll restart the phone for whatever reason and POW! Come to think of it the only reason why I usually restart the phone is to either swap batteries or because performance has dropped dramatically. Now I am wondering if there is a run away process that is chewing up the battery but the usage isn't being reported until after the reboot.
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My battery is stock also. And mine appears to be random also sometimes I will have mild to high battery drain and other times its BAM %50 to 0 on a reboot or something it doesn't really match up with use or anything. I do have a Chinese battery on the way. I'm draining the battery down a bit more now and going to do another full charge with it off and then wipe the stats. Hopefully it helps will also try to stop at the sprint store and have them test the battery.
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My battery is stock also. And mine appears to be random also sometimes I will have mild to high battery drain and other times its BAM %50 to 0 on a reboot or something it doesn't really match up with use or anything. I do have a Chinese battery on the way. I'm draining the battery down a bit more now and going to do another full charge with it off and then wipe the stats. Hopefully it helps will also try to stop at the sprint store and have them test the battery.
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This was most prevalent for me when running EXT4 using the ext4 compatible bonsai roms (and the other ROMs that use bonsai as a base)
i've gone back to RFS and the 1.0.4 (I think) bonsai ROM and the problem has gone away.
my phone would be fine for quite a while, then i'd notice crappy performance, browsing, texts not being sent/received so i'd reboot the phone and come back after boot and the battery would be almost dead.
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This was most prevalent for me when running EXT4 using the ext4 compatible bonsai roms (and the other ROMs that use bonsai as a base)
i've gone back to RFS and the 1.0.4 (I think) bonsai ROM and the problem has gone away.
my phone would be fine for quite a while, then i'd notice crappy performance, browsing, texts not being sent/received so i'd reboot the phone and come back after boot and the battery would be almost dead.
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I am on ext4 also. I have been thinking of going to another rom and possibly off ext4 but I was trying to wait for final froyo custom roms..ya I know stupid me lol
I'm ruining running "stock" DK28 so I don't think it is an EXT4 issue as much as maybe an issue with DK28.
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Looks like it goes away
I am currently on Bonsai v2.0.0 rom with Gingerbread Theme.
My battery performed weird when I just flashed to Bonsai rom. After reboot, the battery suddenly dropped from 50% to 15% and told me to charge. However I believe it happened due to flashing a new rom and battery not calibrated.
However, after a week of normal using, the battery seemed to have been calibrated itself. Now it performs okay. I have been lightly used (facebook, XDA, Engadget, weather checking on Wifi) with screen brightness set to auto. I also played music on phone speaker for about 20 minutes while I am cooking. Oh, I didn't get a call, so no call usage. But I did some email checking.
I had Advanced Task Killer set up to auto kill processes every one hour. I killed facebook when not in use, as I heard that facebook chat causes major battery drainage. And I also set mostly black wallpaper in hope to save some battery. I heard that saves battery a lot for some reason.
Anyways I have attached the screenshot, although I didn't use much, I believe that I can withstand a day with no problem.
daddymikey1975 said:
This was most prevalent for me when running EXT4 using the ext4 compatible bonsai roms (and the other ROMs that use bonsai as a base)
i've gone back to RFS and the 1.0.4 (I think) bonsai ROM and the problem has gone away.
my phone would be fine for quite a while, then i'd notice crappy performance, browsing, texts not being sent/received so i'd reboot the phone and come back after boot and the battery would be almost dead.
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Not to change the subject but you brought up Swype. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the more they use Swype the worse it seems to get? I loved it at first but now it seems like it's been hitting the crack pipe.
With due respect I think you're all wrong. I've had the same issues... sometimes at random after a restart
Shut down
Pull the battery
Put it back in
You should see your normal battery life
It's actually reading way lower than the battery actually is
flash_c4 said:
Not to change the subject but you brought up Swype. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the more they use Swype the worse it seems to get? I loved it at first but now it seems like it's been hitting the crack pipe.
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Swype remembers mistakes that we make when hitting each key.. once a week or once every couple weeks I'll go to menu > settings > spplications > manage > select all apps > swype > force stop then clear cache.
that always gets it sober again.
snowmanwithahat said:
With due respect I think you're all wrong. I've had the same issues... sometimes at random after a restart
Shut down
Pull the battery
Put it back in
You should see your normal battery life
It's actually reading way lower than the battery actually is
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The thing is, it shouldn't be happening. I can say for certain that after removing EXT4 and flashing back to the last stable (for me) Bonsai ROM I have not encountered this anomaly even one time (been 2 wks so far)... call it a coincidence, call it a solution. You decide.
Just sayin'
--DM1975
daddymikey1975 said:
Swype remembers mistakes that we make when hitting each key.. once a week or once every couple weeks I'll go to menu > settings > spplications > manage > select all apps > swype > force stop then clear cache.
that always gets it sober again.
Clear cache or clear data? In Cache it shows 0.00B but in Data it shows 396KB. EDIT: I took the plunge and cleared data. That was it.
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snowmanwithahat said:
With due respect I think you're all wrong. I've had the same issues... sometimes at random after a restart
Shut down
Pull the battery
Put it back in
You should see your normal battery life
It's actually reading way lower than the battery actually is
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I tried this and no luck. I restarted the phone with about 80% and when it came up I got the critically low attach charger message. I then powered down, removed the battery, let it set for a minute, put the battery back in and booted. Still the same message. I'm keeping better track of usage and such today to see if there is something I can contribute this to.
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I tried this and no luck. I restarted the phone with about 80% and when it came up I got the critically low attach charger message. I then powered down, removed the battery, let it set for a minute, put the battery back in and booted. Still the same message. I'm keeping better track of usage and such today to see if there is something I can contribute this to.
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In my experience, there wasn't a 'guilty' usage pattern or app that caused this for me.. I noticed that when the battery gauge showed around 60-70% my phone would start performing very poorly.. I'd reboot and when it booted, came back w/ critical low battery.
As I posted before, I reverted back to RFS and haven't had this issue yet.
Glad to see I'm not the only one having this annoying problem. I hate having a full battery and after 2 reboots I have a low battery. Its hard to believe that a reboot takes so much power.
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blackdragon79 said:
Glad to see I'm not the only one having this annoying problem. I hate having a full battery and after 2 reboots I have a low battery. Its hard to believe that a reboot takes so much power.
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I think it's the flux capacitor...
flash_c4 said:
I think it's the flux capacitor...
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I dont driver above 88mph while using GPS so the flux capacitor should not be active
3rd party launcher
So I was having a problem over the last few days trying to see what was eating up my memory and battery.
This was my solution to my battery drain:
If you have a 3rd party launcher, like LauncherPro, go turn on TouchWiz (via settings->applications->manage applications->3rd party launcher->clear defaults). Open up both TouchWiz and the Default Android launcher one at a time, and make sure you delete all of the widgets and anything that might be operating under the other launchers.
LauncherPro and ADW do not turn off TouchWiz, they are really just an overlay. So if you have, for instance, the Sprint TV widget on a home screen through TW, then it is still operating while you use LP or ADW. I use this example because it is a widget that Sprint has set up to automatically be placed on the home screen when you buy the phone.
Also, I would recommend looking at these three apps that might show you what is draining your battery: OS Monitor, Android Assistant, and/or Battery Doctor.
Hope this help you in some fashion to uncover whatever it is that draining your battery. If nothing here helps, I would do one of the battery calibration techniques here
Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to test which one might be bad? Any app you know of that can monitor things and tell me if a rogue app is killing the battery or if the battery is bad?
I was running mik 1.1 and was using it pretty heavily with gaming and downloading stuff. The phone died after about 7 hours. I thought that maybe the rom or cwm or something else might be killing the battery. Something strange though is that, like I said, I ran the battery until the phone shut off. Then I left it off and put it in a wall wart charger for about 8 hours and the status light was still orange. My gf had the phone and told me once she left it plugged in overnight and in the morning it was only at like 50 something percent. I thought maybe the charger went bad so I gave her another one and she didn't say anything else about it. I'm starting to wonder if maybe the phone's battery has a weak or bad cell. I kinda doubt that there's something wrong with the charging circuitry of the phone but there could be, anything is possible. I will probably take it to the repair center and tell them about it and see what they say. I tried looking on htc's site for oem replacement batteries but couldn't find anything. I found lots of aftermarket but I didn't want to go that route.
I don't know if it would not be a good idea or not to try and use my original evo battery just flipped over. I suppose if that's the only thing I have to try and troubleshoot this problem then it will have to do.
Can anyone give me suggestions or has something similar happened to you?
Now let me see if I can find that evo battery..........
Spare parts, in the market if not on your rom by default, had a battery information tab that will indicate battery health as well as what kind of plug the phone detects when charging (usb, ac, or none)
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Like danaff37 said, spare parts can be useful. Also try CPU Spy, free from the market, which shows what % of the time your CPU spends at each frequency, but this actually more relevant for determining if your phone is properly sleeping..
For proper charging you can get an app like CurrentWidget or Battery Monitor Widget which tells your the current consumed during usage or current injected during charging, as well as the voltage in mV. Full charge should reach around 4200 mV, and when charging the current should be around ~800 mA for lower % battery left.
Thanks for your input. I found the evo battery and did the same thing as before. I ran it until the phone shut off and then put it one the (same) charger and went to bed. About seven hours later, it was still orange charging. Both times the phone was off. Now something that could be a possibility is the charger is weak or bad. When I put my evo on it, it charges seemingly fine. I should try using the battery until it shuts off again and use a different charger and see what happens. Six to eight hours charging, with the phone off, coming from a dead battery, on a Motorola charger that has a rated output of eight hundred milliamps at five volts. I have others at different output rates and a two amp charger intended for an ipad. Some might say that the charger is too much for the phone. The charging circuitry only pulls as much amperage from the charger as the phone was designed to. Now on the other hand if I put a smaller output charger on, say one hundred and fifty milliamps, it will take longer to charge the phone than usual. "They" say trickle charging is better. Whatever. I will post my results if I find any. Or, I just might trade the phone in for a nexus s or an evo 3d.
I was just about ready to throw in the towel and say the phone was defective, but then things started happening. I will fill you in on what I have done in the meantime. Okay so the flipped over evo battery kinda works but not completely. It will charge but not to 100% and green light. To test this, I took the evo battery out of the shift. It didn't seem to want to go more than 98 or 99%. I put the battery into the evo and after a few minutes the light went green. This was initially off. Then I booted the evo and let it go to sleep. After it booted the light went orange then green after a few minutes. Okay so the evo battery is capable of going to 100%. These charging tests were done with a different charger.
I forgot to tell you, I let the evo battery charge while I was at work and the phone was off. So the battery was charging roughly twenty hours and still no green light. I suspect that even though the positive and negative terminals aligned with the correct tabs on the shift, the center two contacts must be different internally than the shift battery. I speculate that those center tabs are for the battery and phone to communicate to each other during it's charging state. I am guessing that the battery tells the phone it is fully charged and to go trickle charge and perhaps the evo battery wasn't communicating to the phone or the phone didn't know when to say it is done charging. The battery never got hot either.
The shift was rooted, running mikshift 1.1 and the latest clockworkmod recovery. Here is where I suspect that there still might be charging bugs with that setup. I used the pcxx.zip file that when booting into the bootloader, would flash the phone back to stock everything. After trying this and assuming that the phone was back to stock, I kept going with my what the hell is going on with this phone battery charging test. A note about the flipped evo battery. Yes it will work in a pinch but it won't charge properly. Luck has it that the notches in the battery and phone allow it to work in a shift. Only thing is, the shift battery won't work in the evo. The tabs are on the wrong side and the phone's tabs won't allow the contacts on the battery to meet up with the phone's terminals.
Okay, where was I? Trying different chargers wouldn't make the shift green light full charge. I tried the same chargers on the evo with it's original battery in and it would green light after a few minutes on or off. There wasn't anything wrong with the chargers. Oh and another note, while using the battery monitor widget, I noticed that both phones wouldn't pull more than a little over three hundred milliamps of power from the charger to the battery. Interesting to know how much it really pulls from the charger.
Anywho, I tried something different for my process of elimination testing. I actually ruu flashed the shift back to factory and guess what happened..... The battery and phone were charging both on and off all the way to green full charge at 100%! I think I'm getting somewhere with this! All my luck, either it is a known bug somewhere in the forum in a place I haven't stumbled across or I'm the only one that this is happening to. It doesn't really matter I guess.
My conclusion, which isn't scientific by any stretch of the imagination, is that the phone isn't truely back to factory unless you ruu it. The pcxximg.zip doesn't put everything back to stock. I haven't narrowed it down to what is causing this behavior. I don't think it is root. It could be cwm recovery or the rom or both. I didn't try the stock rooted zip either. I suppose I could go further with this investigation but I am too lazy to now. I might root it again and just leave things stock rooted. I might activate this phone in the morning and run it all day tomorrow and see how it acts. I will have to charge it a few times during the day to keep the levels up when I really use the phone heavily. I've written enough for now. Does anyone have anything to ask or add to this topic?
Since the latest update to CWM phone-off charging finally works again but the light never turns green. It charges fully but with the phone off the LED never turns green. It's not just you.
EDIT: If this is not the actual question I apologize. The posts were far too long to actually read
^ Shift Faced
OK. I thought something might have been broken.
Forgive me, I am truly a newbie to Android after having a BB for 8 years. This battery thing is killing me. I am on my 2nd Evo Shift, the 1st one wouldn't last for more than 2 hours with barely any usage so they gave me a new one. This one barely lasts 5 hours. I am barely running anything. I took it into the store and they thought I was going to be running all these programs, but I kill everything. They told me the "battery trick" about turning off the phone and unplugging it and plugging it back in 10 times so I did that but I am not getting any more life out of the battery. My display is constantly using at least 70% of the battery it says even if I turn it down very low or if I set it to choose its setting. Do you have any advice for me? I am not running a task killer, I kill all the programs I am not using. I have no widgets running because I am afraid to use the battery, I only have 2 screens out of the 7 with things on them. I am being help hostage by my cool phone that I want to use but am scared to kill the battery! (sorry for the long post)
Ok if you use a lot apps just close them after (for stock 2.2) . Even on stock you can literally stream music and movies for about 4-6 hours. (sometimes a lot more) . The background info that runs doesn't use a lot of juice , but if you want you can go to your home screen any of them hit menu (but not with the app drawer open) select settings go to accounts and sync turn off background info and just turn it on manually when needed such as the android market . You can also turn off the auto sync and just manually choose to sync , like in the clock (and gmail etc.) it will say no weather after you click it , just hit menu you will see a little sync button option to sync and voila you have weather . So when you visit the market it will automatically ask you to turn it on (background info as will all apps that need this) . And the screen on any android is a battery killer . So when not using your phone simply tapp your power button to turn your screen off and lock (and to keep from pocket dialing lol) . But if all you do is text , emails , and web surfing (surfing drains more but no where near as much as streaming) you can literally do that all day , the screen will actually suck the most power . If manually turning off your apps is too much . Just turn your phone off (not just the screen) and on . If a new app didn't turn off after you start your phone back up you know that will be a problem later . So when not using your phone turn off your screen it will last soooo much longer . I only make a call or two and a couple of texts maybe a few minutes of internet with opera mini . My battery lasts over 24 hrs , but I barely use my phone . Hope that helps .
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BTW if you have a bunch of apps running in the background video games etc ... and you charge your phone all night and in the morning it is not charged . You should probably turn your apps off . Or simply power your phone off which shuts off most apps . Then turn it back on . The phone should not take all night to charge , it should only take an hour or 2 . 3 hours max .
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i suggest watchdog lite,it monitors cpu usage and alerts you when 1 uses more than your max threshold.if this helps,please click thanks.
When you changed ROMs, did you do it with a full charge? If not, your battery stats file is probably messed up.. Ive used Battery Calibrator free from the market in the past to fix that problem.. I believe a brand new battery on the Shift shows about 4200mV when fully charged or just slightly below that.. Run the app, when it gets close, calibrate (which essentially just deletes the battery stats file and creates a new one)
Hope someone can help me solve this issue.
The Setup
I recently went out of the country and before I left I unlocked my GS4 following from wonderhowto[dot]com
Arrived to my Carribean destination, bought a prepaid SIM, popped her in and everything worked great.
Problems started when I flew back into Miami. I removed my prepaid SIM and installed my old one, changed my APN name back
and rebooted the phone. Decided to plug it into my laptop (USB3.0) to get some extra juice before the next flight and I noticed that
the battery was actually going down and quite quickly too, about 1% every 3 minutes. The phone was also doing a lot of connecting and disconnecting from the laptop even though it was not being moved.
I use two batteries which I have an external charger for , so this didn't slow me down too much.
After a few days, I thought maybe by unlocking the phone I had left it in some "roaming" state where it was eating up battery looking for its signal, so I decided that I'd restore it to the nandroid backup ROM Manager created before I did the unlock procedure. OH NUGGETS!
Things got ugly , quick!. In the process of trying to restore got MD5 mismatch error, so I went back to 3 previous backups before all of which said either "MD5 mismatch" or unable to open .zip -None of them worked.
Thankfully I had saved a copy of the backup folder in clockworkmod to my PC and tried to load that, it started and then get to writing /data and said error writing data.
I rebooted. Bootloop.
After a few hours of attempts with KIES, and some well timed cold beer deliveries from my wife, I finally got the phone back to stock version.
Rooted it again, motochopper, And loaded GoldenEye Rom v 8.0 . Still slow to little or no charging.
Loaded PACMAN and noticed something that should be mentioned.
Pacman rom has its own little battery widget that sits in the top tray and shows the %. It glows green from bottom to top to show that it is charging. I noticed on every couple of cycles, the battery meter would flash red for a quick second before turning green and sweeping up.????
Went back to a backup of GoldenEye8.
The current status
The phone is currently plugged in to the stock charger (2A) and stock cable. It has charged up only about 3% in 20 minutes time. I have it in battery saving mode with wifi on , and EVERYTHING else turned off.
Battery info says:
Temp 87.3 F
Voltage 4033mV
Plugged True
Charging
Li-ion
Health:Good
Charge Type : AC
Battery use shows 62% of battery use coming from SCREEN (Yes I have auto-brightness set, and NO live wallpaper)
Anyone have some good input?
Maybe its a bad cord? Or bad USB port/connection on the phone it self...
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62% screen usage is normal, I sometimes see over 70% with my brightness all the way up.
Make sure apps aren't keeping it from going idle and staying active.
Battery temp. seems a bit high. General causes of that are a faulty cable.
Download greenify and hibernate any apps that may be running unnoticeably in the background.
If your kernel allows fast charging (disables access to phone storage while fast charging is on) enable it while charging if you're not using the phone.
Play with CPU and GPU governors in your kernel to save battery life. I.E: I put my CPU governor on "powersave" while idle and not using the phone for anything extensive.
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mg2195 said:
Maybe its a bad cord? Or bad USB port/connection on the phone it self...
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Tried two other cords,but they just made it worse. They actually caused it to look like its charging but the battery level was going down.
Your second suggestion is probably right, but i'd like to exhaust my options first before having to restore and send to creator. I do find that with the stock cable and no external case on it stays plugged in well and doesn't make any "interrupted connection" noises.
With stock charger and cable and minimal functions running its charging about 1% every 4 minutes. ( Approx 6.5 hrs to full charge )
I feel like the hardware must be working in order to do that, and that the software is putting some kind of excessive strain on it. Possibly?
The battery use still shows, screen as the major contributor at 61% , so I switched from a really high resolution static background to a low res one. ( results to follow)
Downloading WanamLite now and going to try that out, also going to try performing the unlock procedure I did in reverse order and see what that does. Keep you posted. Open to suggestions.
Br4nd3n said:
62% screen usage is normal, I sometimes see over 70% with my brightness all the way up.
Make sure apps aren't keeping it from going idle and staying active.
Battery temp. seems a bit high. General causes of that are a faulty cable.
Download greenify and hibernate any apps that may be running unnoticeably in the background.
If your kernel allows fast charging (disables access to phone storage while fast charging is on) enable it while charging if you're not using the phone.
Play with CPU and GPU governors in your kernel to save battery life. I.E: I put my CPU governor on "powersave" while idle and not using the phone for anything extensive.
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Thanks for the advise, I'm running greenify and its really only showing facebook and my sms app, I hibernated facebook anyways just to test it, but I know out of the box , on a car adapter this thing was charging 1%/min , maybe I have a bad ROM/Kernel mix?
prodigaltaurus said:
maybe I have a bad ROM/Kernel mix?
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Doubt it, but maybe you can try going from touchwiz to aosp. Very much more lightweight, though you'll lose some s4 features. If it is faulty hardware/battery I'd just save yourself the trouble and swap it for a new one; or try another battery. I guess you can try doing a compete wipe and flashing a fresh ROM with a kernel you know will definitely run smooth with it.
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Br4nd3n said:
Doubt it, but maybe you can try going from touchwiz to aosp. Very much more lightweight, though you'll lose some s4 features. If it is faulty hardware/battery I'd just save yourself the trouble and swap it for a new one; or try another battery. I guess you can try doing a compete wipe and flashing a fresh ROM with a kernel you know will definitely run smooth with it.
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Already tried the second battery, no luck. Any suggestion on the rom/kernel combo?
I use task650 with kt's kernel and it's excellent. Though it's all opinion, there is many great combinations. Some ROMs come packaged with their own kernel or a custom one.
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IMO: those temps are pretty normal.
Why you don't try a bone stock rom and see how it respond for a few hours, if the stock rom behaves the same, probably you will need to send it for warranty.