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i have a video thats in 720p. its avi which the n1 couldnt play so i renamed it as an mp4 like the other movies on my phone but it still wont play, the phone "cannot play this video"
I use doubletwist but it wont sync this video so i had to just click and drag from the folder to the sdcard
Is the problem that the n1 cant playback 720p? Am I not transferring the file properly? Because i was under the impression it would play 720p...Ive had three android phones and trying to play videos on them has always been like flapping my arms to fly, it never works and i feel stupid for trying...thanks for any help
I'm no expert, but you can't just rename a file to encode it in a different format. I don't know what double twist is, so can't help there.
Android hasn't been good for video playback, but all my videos that I encoded down for my Hero play much better on the N1.
The fact it wont play the 720p video files you put on there doesn't meen it can't, it just means you need to encode them into a format that the N1 likes.
I think the biggest problem is the amount of data the video uses per second compared to the amount of data the N1 can get off your SD card. Is it class 6?
AndyCr15 said:
I'm no expert, but you can't just rename a file to encode it in a different format. I don't know what double twist is, so can't help there.
Android hasn't been good for video playback, but all my videos that I encoded down for my Hero play much better on the N1.
The fact it wont play the 720p video files you put on there doesn't meen it can't, it just means you need to encode them into a format that the N1 likes.
I think the biggest problem is the amount of data the video uses per second compared to the amount of data the N1 can get off your SD card. Is it class 6?
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I know this is VERYYYYYYYYYYYY irrelevant, but in your sig, it says "HTC Nexus One", where as the HTC codename(?) for the N1 is the "HTC Passion", Nexus One is it's Google branded name.. hence "Google Nexus One".
I hate calling people out on stuff like this, because it is a possibility that I could easily be wrong.. but it is something that kinda irritated me lol >.> and please don't reply back harshly.. I just had to say it ~.~ but you probably already know
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i have a video thats in 720p. its avi which the n1 couldnt play so i renamed it as an mp4 like the other movies on my phone but it still wont play, the phone "cannot play this video"
I use doubletwist but it wont sync this video so i had to just click and drag from the folder to the sdcard
Is the problem that the n1 cant playback 720p? Am I not transferring the file properly? Because i was under the impression it would play 720p...Ive had three android phones and trying to play videos on them has always been like flapping my arms to fly, it never works and i feel stupid for trying...thanks for any help
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The problem is the video is in the wrong format and the Nexus One doesn't have the proper codec. No you can't add codecs to the Nexus One. You will have to find software to convert it into a format it can recognize.
The supported video codecs for the Nexus One are on the Google Nexus One website.
Eclair stated..
I know this is VERYYYYYYYYYYYY irrelevant, but in your sig, it says "HTC Nexus One", where as the HTC codename(?) for the N1 is the "HTC Passion", Nexus One is it's Google branded name.. hence "Google Nexus One".
I hate calling people out on stuff like this, because it is a possibility that I could easily be wrong.. but it is something that kinda irritated me lol >.> and please don't reply back harshly.. I just had to say it ~.~ but you probably already know
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I think they are pretty d**** identical, tho no doubt someone wiser with access to both 'phones will advise me otherwise...
if you run APP "Quick System Info" it will report all sorts of nerdy stuff about what your dog is doing: The report from my Nexus One starts...
#Created by Quick System Info version 1.3.1
Device: passion
Model: Nexus One
Product:
Brand: google
Release: 2.1-update1
Build: ERE27
Locale: en_GB
Linux version 2.6.29-01117-g4bc62c2 ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.4.0 (GCC) ) #1 PREEMPT Wed Jan 20 10:24:55 PST 2010
Basic Info
================================================== ======================================
* SD card storage
Total: 3.69GB, Free: 2.13GB
* Internal storage
Total: 196MB, Free: 148MB
* Memory
Total: 213MB, Free: 38.74MB, Idle: 4.26MB
* Processor
ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) 998.4MHz
* Network Address
no.I.am.not.that.dumb.guyz....
Scaling CPU frequency:998400
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
BogoMIPS : 662.
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i.e. the beast itself (my N1) appears to describe itself as both Nexus One & Passion.. schizo or what eh??
(You can send yourself the report (HTMLorTXT) by email... and yes, the APP is free.. )
Cheers!
Lodger
theartfullodger said:
Eclair stated..
I think they are pretty d**** identical, tho no doubt someone wiser with access to both 'phones will advise me otherwise...
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Um.. you do know that N1 and the Passion are the same device, HTC first gives their own personal code names (from my understanding) to devices they create. I'm assuming whatever company asked for them to make the device then gets to rename it, or just keep the name (like the HTC Hero).
For example(s) the HTC Dream, is the G1, the HTC Sapphire, is the MyTouch. The HTC Passion, is the N1.
And myself I don't see anything wrong with saying HTC G1 either.
I understand your point, I just think mine is an HTC device that people call the Nexus One, so it's an HTC Nexus One...
I also have in my sig HTC Universal, wasn't that called the JasJar by HTC?
Anyway, we'er going way off topic here.
Staying on topic, in my understanding android by default cannot play .avi files. As AndyCr15 mentioned, you can't just rename a file and expect it to magically reencode itself. Just like how I can change the Ford badge of my Ford Focus into a Porche badge doesn't really make it a real Porshe does it?
You'll have to get yourself a video file converter and re-encode it to the approriate format.
^what they said. it's done in the wrong codec. there are avi files it will play, i believe, but it can't do divx or xvid right now encoded avi files. you need to find an h.264 something encoded avi.
doubletwist 'should' be able to do conversions for you. but, it takes forever and a day. probably faster to do it with ffmpeg. google for instructions
Archos 5 android internet tablet has the best media player but i don't know if anyone can extract it and make it work on N1.
you can download the firmware off their site
I already posted a while back about it...
It plays pretty much every video/audio format and does it perfect ...even plays 720p MKV
and even plays youtube @ 720
The archos has lower specs
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
Use handbrake to transcode your videos to mp4.
Just use the iphone profile, but make sure to change video resolution since iphone screen is smaller.
lashtal said:
Use handbrake to transcode your videos to mp4.
Just use the iphone profile, but make sure to change video resolution since iphone screen is smaller.
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He's is talking about 720p even if you try to play an 720p Mp4 it wont play
o rly?
I reencoded the shuttle video from youtube in 720p and it plays without a hitch. (its already in .mp4 container on youtube, but still needs to be encoded)
1080p wont play though
yea i take that back think something was wrong with the mp4 vid i was using all i got was sound no vid at just re encoded wall-E 720 and plays fine
um guys. I hate to break it to you, but seeing how the screen resolution of the nexus one is 800x480, it is very fundamentally incapable of displaying 720 lines of vertical resolution.
Sure, you may have a video that is 1280x720, and the nexus one may play it, but it's scaled.
It's like hooking up a 15 inch lcd monitor to your computer and watching a video whos resolutions is 1920x1080, you can't say you're watching it in HD, because your display doesn't support an HD format.
that actually made sense.
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um guys. I hate to break it to you, but seeing how the screen resolution of the nexus one is 800x480, it is very fundamentally incapable of displaying 720 lines of vertical resolution.
Sure, you may have a video that is 1280x720, and the nexus one may play it, but it's scaled.
It's like hooking up a 15 inch lcd monitor to your computer and watching a video whos resolutions is 1920x1080, you can't say you're watching it in HD, because your display doesn't support an HD format.
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@kyleroden — we kind of realize it will be downscaled to fit the screen
but if you dont feel like transcoding (which takes time) and have enough free space on the sd card, why not leave the vid as is?
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Archos 5 android internet tablet has the best media player but i don't know if anyone can extract it and make it work on N1.
you can download the firmware off their site
I already posted a while back about it...
It plays pretty much every video/audio format and does it perfect ...even plays 720p MKV
and even plays youtube @ 720
The archos has lower specs
http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/specs.html?country=us&lang=en
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It shouldn't be that hard if people can rip the Nemo Player from the Acer Liquid.
Think the reason why many 720p mp4 files won't play on the nexus one (or even iphone) depends on what encoding profile was used to encode the stream. The 3 mainly used encoding profiles are "baseline", "main" and "high". Anyone worth half their salt would encode 720p material in the "high" profile since is supports more bells and whistles like b-frames etc. and is normally intended to be played on a HD screen/TV with a more powerful player/decoder/PC etc.
The majority of mobile players don't really support the "high" profile since it requires more processing power to decode compared to "baseline". So chances are most 720p and higher materials need re-encoding for it to play unfortunately. Well since you are gonna transcode the stuff anyways you might as well set it at the correct resolution since the encoder software is going to a much better job scaling than on-the-fly scaling on the nexus one.
So is it a codec issue or a hardware limitation? I was expecting a 1GHz Snapdragon to be capable of playing back 720p h264 videos.. Yes I know the N1 doesn't have a 720p display but it would be convenient if transcoding videos weren't necessary..
I currently use Nero recode for mp4 which is very good in my opinion plus the video qualityis great, but need one that can handle HD rips, any pointers will be appreciated.
Try mediacoder its open source and its free, very powerful tool to convert videos.
Not sure if SUPER does mkv, but it's free and has loads of options.
Thanks have tried mediacoder but keep getting no output file error, ve played around some with no success...
I ll give super atry also..
I have been using MP4forHD and winmenc that i used for my HD2 and they come out excellent looking.
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I have been using MP4forHD and winmenc that i used for my HD2 and they come out excellent looking.
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What am I doing wrong in Winmenc, every time I encode something using either xvid or x264...and i copy over to the desire when i explore using astro, i cant find the files...
Did you use the profile setting......
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 800x480 2000kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
or
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 Baseline 800x480 1800kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
I think i downloaded off one of the HD2 forums but can't find a link now.
If you want, i will upload them for you.
Note - i have noticed a slight lip sync on playback though but video is stunning.
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What am I doing wrong in Winmenc, every time I encode something using either xvid or x264...and i copy over to the desire when i explore using astro, i cant find the files...
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I tried Winmenc today and it didn't fly for me either. 1st-pass runs fine but 2nd pass immediately renders a 0-bytes file. It's the same with single pass encoding. Perhaps we are missing some obligatory codecs for this program to function properly.
Mp4ForHD works fine though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050
Try this clip i made and see if it shows.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371991498/Satoyama.mp4
You may need this profile ini.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371989525/new_profile.ini
I never wrote the ini file, it was someone on the HD2 forum.
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Did you use the profile setting......
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 800x480 2000kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
or
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 Baseline 800x480 1800kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
I think i downloaded off one of the HD2 forums but can't find a link now.
If you want, i will upload them for you.
Note - i have noticed a slight lip sync on playback though but video is stunning.
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Thanks for this will give it a shot, but 2000kbps is a lot of bit rate and lot of memory card space, i will edit the settings and reduce the bit rate to around 750 for the video and bout 96 for audio..
I just use Handbrake.
800 x 480, 1500kbps data rate, 128 audio at 48khz
are you able to save a profile out.. haven't used HANDBAKE before so being a little lazy
thx
I use Format Factory 2.30
Select psp and ps3 in output settings and choose xperia x1 avc
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I use Format Factory 2.30
Select psp and ps3 in output settings and choose xperia x1 avc
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I also like Format Factory. But Desire doesn't play video as nice as HD2 does...
Hope a real good player will come out soon...
Have you tried mvideoplayer off the market, runs nicely.
Yes, I have now. It does work ok, but still seems that HD2 perform better.
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Miro Video Convertor
Super simple totally worth it. Otherwise I just used handbreak which I still do for larger files which I want to tweak more. Miro Video Converter is soooo easy though and nice if you just want to drag and drop a file to get what you need.
Sadly I cant post a link yet since I'm a "new" user, though I've looked at this site for years. Wonder how long it'll take to be verified?
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Super simple totally worth it. Otherwise I just used handbreak which I still do for larger files which I want to tweak more. Miro Video Converter is soooo easy though and nice if you just want to drag and drop a file to get what you need.
Sadly I cant post a link yet since I'm a "new" user, though I've looked at this site for years. Wonder how long it'll take to be verified?
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wow that does look really good, it even has a Nexus One profile which should work perfectly!
will check it out...
edit: tried it and dont like it. It gives you no control over bit rate/quality and as such transcoding a large file ends up in a file almost the same size.
The search continues....
jpopgt said:
Try this clip i made and see if it shows.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371991498/Satoyama.mp4
You may need this profile ini.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371989525/new_profile.ini
I never wrote the ini file, it was someone on the HD2 forum.
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Hi thanks for the .ini, I changed the bitrate to 1000, framerate to original and the audio bitrate to 160. looks nice. I am going to play around with the video bit rate and see how low I can take it.
What is interesting is that the Desire will play these x264 encodes but not my handbrake x264 encodes, wonder what I am doing wrong.....
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Hi thanks for the .ini, I changed the bitrate to 1000, framerate to original and the audio bitrate to 160. looks nice. I am going to play around with the video bit rate and see how low I can take it.
What is interesting is that the Desire will play these x264 encodes but not my handbrake x264 encodes, wonder what I am doing wrong.....
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If you find a solution for the lip sync problem....let us know
I have been messing about with different settings and think i have found the solution to perfect video convertions but some other fault always appears.
How to convert the highest resolution to a mkv-file and keep the quality without any compression?
From what source?
Unless you're downloading 40GB BD-RIPS there's no need to convert anything.
Sorry, badly formulated questiuon. I m eant the internal cluips rfecorded with the phone in 3gp format or whatever...
Why convert?
Every device on this planet reads 3gp.
Not my WDTV...
Try HandBrake, worked flawless for me and runs on Windows, OSX and Linux.
Could you post you settings please? (For uncompressed conversion)
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so then can I take it as no coding necessary to change the frames to match the 800x480 (SGS screen res) in order to play a 720p file I already have. I actually tried to convert a 2.6 GB mp4 file using handbrake following a guide by someone in the forum to convert videos to play in the SGS. It produced a 2.1 GB mp4 but SGS will not play it just skips over to the next video file.
I even tried to convert the video using Kies but the video quality is so crap, can't believe how samsung can provide such a software where it converts all movie frames not above 300 pixels whereas SGS is having 800!!?
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Not my WDTV...
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My WDTVLive plays them fine...
I would also like to know the best possible settings for movies to be converted with the SGS resolution, its quite moot to have a 720p movie on a device that only does 480p on its hardware display
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My WDTVLive plays them fine...
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Hmmmm, not my original WDTV....
Use super, it can streamcopy Audio and video into another containerformat.
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How do I go about in converting the 3gp files while keeping the same HD quality?
Is it even possible?
I use the Youtube HD option. Im not sure if that makes any difference.
What program is everyone using?
I want to convert the video files into something that I can burn onto a DVD, while keeping that high quality.
You could probably just use windows movie maker.
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some people say it's mp4 with decoded with H.264 and some people say it's wmv. i've tried them both on my evo 4g but still can't figure this out.
have any ideas?
I personally don't see any difference in picture quality other than file size. However, if you plan on using your HDMI cable, I would be more concerned with the resolution size, than the format. That's my 2 cents.
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I read on Android Central a long time ago that MP4 was the extension the EVO liked best. If you need help converting videos, I recommend using Handbrake. After you've downloaded your video file, load it into Handbrake and use these settings to make it EVO-friendly:
In the picture tab, set Anamorphic on None, and adjust the resolution. The EVO can only accept as high as 1280x720. Leave Keep Aspect Ratio checked. This will ensure the video doesn't get squished or is too tall.
Skip Video Filters.
In the Video tab, use MPEG-4(FFmpeg) as your codec. Under Quality, I find it easier to aim for a specific file size than bitrate. The EVO supports HD files up to 2GB, as I've noticed any higher results in lag.
In the Audio tab, choose whatever settings you please for output. You really don't need to change anything here.
And that's it. Any questions feel free to PM me.
Both h.264 and 3gp will give you the same result with this phone. Generally, h264 is a GREAT codec, it's what is used in blu-ray's as it compresses very well and leaves a lot of quality. However, on the evo of course, using h264 limits you to 800x480. Now, switching to 1280x720 would give you a better picture you would think. However, of course you have to use the 3gp codec, which is probably over 10 years old, and is horrible at compressing video. It really wasnt even meant to be used on video, just audio.
sitlet said:
Both h.264 and 3gp will give you the same result with this phone. Generally, h264 is a GREAT codec, it's what is used in blu-ray's as it compresses very well and leaves a lot of quality. However, on the evo of course, using h264 limits you to 800x480. Now, switching to 1280x720 would give you a better picture you would think. However, of course you have to use the 3gp codec, which is probably over 10 years old, and is horrible at compressing video. It really wasnt even meant to be used on video, just audio.
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I agree with you. What I do is convert using Handbrake and select iphone4 preset. Works great on my evo.
x2 on mp4 for a smooth running video, I use iPod or iPhone settings when selecting a conversion.
spyd312 said:
I personally don't see any difference in picture quality other than file size. However, if you plan on using your HDMI cable, I would be more concerned with the resolution size, than the format. That's my 2 cents.
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hoho, maybe i'm just over concerning. Actually, i don't see any difference either.
thanks
sivarticus85 said:
I read on Android Central a long time ago that MP4 was the extension the EVO liked best. If you need help converting videos, I recommend using Handbrake. After you've downloaded your video file, load it into Handbrake and use these settings to make it EVO-friendly:
In the picture tab, set Anamorphic on None, and adjust the resolution. The EVO can only accept as high as 1280x720. Leave Keep Aspect Ratio checked. This will ensure the video doesn't get squished or is too tall.
Skip Video Filters.
In the Video tab, use MPEG-4(FFmpeg) as your codec. Under Quality, I find it easier to aim for a specific file size than bitrate. The EVO supports HD files up to 2GB, as I've noticed any higher results in lag.
In the Audio tab, choose whatever settings you please for output. You really don't need to change anything here.
And that's it. Any questions feel free to PM me.
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yeah, i agree
actually i have always been using mp4 instead of wmv, i just thought i might be wrong. so thanks o lot
BTW, i use my own video converter - Leawo video converter. i think it's better for me
sitlet said:
Both h.264 and 3gp will give you the same result with this phone. Generally, h264 is a GREAT codec, it's what is used in blu-ray's as it compresses very well and leaves a lot of quality. However, on the evo of course, using h264 limits you to 800x480. Now, switching to 1280x720 would give you a better picture you would think. However, of course you have to use the 3gp codec, which is probably over 10 years old, and is horrible at compressing video. It really wasnt even meant to be used on video, just audio.
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So.. you mean 3pg is a better choice on this phone rather than h.264 ?
So.. you mean 3pg is a better choice on this phone rather than h.264 ?
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Re-read the first sentence in my post...
sednafx said:
I agree with you. What I do is convert using Handbrake and select iphone4 preset. Works great on my evo.
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Thanks works no more freezing.