Hi there,
I bought my htc desire hd 1,5 mounths ago and i really love it.
My gf also love the phone and yes.. she bought the same one.
If we compare the 2 phones there is a huge display qualilty diffrence.
Example;
if i put the color yellow on full screen, my phone will make it more like green.
And on my gf phone it is bright yellow.
This hapen with every color.
Even on the homescreen you see a color diffrence.
You won't notice if you don't compare 2 phones.
Before i get the questions: yes both phones have the same display settings and software updates.
I send my phone to the repair center to solve the problem, guess what they coulden't find the problem.
I Send my phone again to the repair center and again they can't find the problem. All they say is: well, its normal.
I called htc and they said: htc use 2 different displays in the htc desire hd. Maybe that can be the problem. But in real you coulden't see a big diffrence between the 2 displays.
I have to make a photo to prove it, and then they will send the problem to the main office of HTC.
I will post here a photo to if i can make a photo with my crappy camera.
Sorry for my bad english language.
fun2323 said:
I will post here a photo to if i can make a photo with my crappy camera.
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Download shoot me from the market and make screenshots to post here so we can have a proper look...If you can do the same with your GF phone that would be even better so we can compare..
Great idea i will do it when i recive my phone from the repair center. That will be today or tomorrow.
is there a difference in view angles between the two?
waw i didn't know they have two types, maybe one of them is SLCD another user was reporting issues with display driver when he installs a custom rom
i have the green yellow thing, i hope the new one is not SLCD, i dont want to switch again
if your girlfriend device has better view angles than its SLCD or IPS
and taking a screenshot using an app will not show the screen difference ofcourse!
hamdir said:
is there a difference in view angles between the two?
waw i didn't know they have two types, maybe one of them is SLCD
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NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Please dont start that debate up again....I cant take it anymore...
I have a hard time believing that what he was told is true...two different types?? surely not.
Nope the view angles are the same.
And about the 2 displays thats what HTC says to me.
thank god its the same angles! i didnt want that misery again hehe
another question if you look at grey areas very closely can you see some so faint scanlines? is it the same between the two?
rixsta said:
Download shoot me from the market and make screenshots to post here so we can have a proper look...If you can do the same with your GF phone that would be even better so we can compare..
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Why do people keep saying this in threads about display problems? If both phones are displaying the same thing, the screenshots will be identical, even if the difference displays mean that they look different when looking at the two phones...
Not to bring up the debate again or anything but my screens viewing angles are great, I've titled the screens to obscure angles and I can see the screens really well. To be honest the screen looks identical to my gf's Desire in terms of colours and saturation.
Fianlly i have my phone back and found some time to make pictures.
It is verry hard to make pictures of it.
But in real you will see the diffrence in a second.
I would like to post the screenshots here, but i can't upload link to the forum yet.
Hello, you can verify if your both DHD has different screens...
There are two manufacturers for DHD screen, SHARP and AUO. (AUO is a partner / sous dealing with SHARP)
You can verify: Bootloader/Fastboot/System Info
Mine is LCD-SHARP.
i have no idea how to. You can send a link ?
htc tells me they are using 2 screens. but there should be no diffrence in brightnes and color.
fun2323 said:
Fianlly i have my phone back and found some time to make pictures.
It is verry hard to make pictures of it.
But in real you will see the diffrence in a second.
I would like to post the screenshots here, but i can't upload link to the forum yet.
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Defiantly a difference there hay... id ask for a new phone. and send those pictures with the email .
Your right there should be no user noticeable difference.
mero01 said:
Defiantly a difference there hay... id ask for a new phone. and send those pictures with the email .
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Well htc say: If the repair center can't find a problem, we can't do anything.
Perhaps the display falls within a tolerance the HTC have set.
I personally would keep at them, have you tried taking it back to your point of purchase with your GF's DHD as proof that something isn't quite right.
thats what i did 2 times, they send it 2 times back to the repair center.
Bought it by Vodafone NL
hi
you can do what Nvidia32 ask you please
check yours System Info's DHD
To get that you have to start your phone in bootloader mode (power+vol down) and power more for enter in fastboot mode and choose System Info
PS: your DHD must to have ENG Hboot installed if you want see these information
sorry for my english too
yeah I'm interested in knowing the difference between the two screens as well. Can you please check them?
Mine is AUO ..
Madridi4ever said:
yeah I'm interested in knowing the difference between the two screens as well. Can you please check them?
Mine is AUO ..
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Same for me.
Related
Has anybody seen an effect on his/her Universal?
When I take a photo in a dark condition on the dark parts of the photo there are many different color points which are I think about 4 pixel size.
In a lighter condition there is also the same effect, but not as strong as the dark side and on the dark parts too.
What is this?
Hardware of software problem?
Just to know what I'm saying I attached files.
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I think those are dead pixels within your camera. If you notice, they always seem to be in the same place. I've heard that the camera within the Universal isn't of a great quality, and I guess it's pot luck, as with LCD screens, as to how many (if any) of your pixels are dead.
You might be able to argue that it should be replaced under warranty as long as they don't have an acceptable dead pixel level - certainly for LCD screens there is usually a policy which states that a certain number of dead pixels is acceptable based on their position etc, not sure whether this applies to cameras too.
I've attached a couple of pictures taken with my XDA Exec, and you can see I've got a few dead ones too that show up on both pics, but not as noticeable as yours (apart from the one nearly half way down on the right).
Cheers,
Steve.
Yes.
I think you have the right.
I will speak to the shop where I bought. Guarantee is there.
Thanks the answer.
which of the above were taken with night mode on?
Neither of my shots used night mode.
Cheers,
Steve.
I have the same thing going on to... I think it showed up after the new rom was installed. Imate JasJar.
It has nothing to do with the firmware..
Mine does have like 10 of these, quite annoying aren't they?!
Well, turned out to be 18...[/img]
Dear Friends,
I have many dots in the photos even in daylight... Ohh no... First I thought it was because of firmware bug but now i am really confused after reading above about dead pixels in the camera...Mine is a 2 months old jasjar...
DAYLIGHT:
NIGHT:
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Regards and thanks...
I noticed that mine has a few dots too. I only noticed it after the I-Mate upgrade, so I did not worry about it myself. I did not have those dots when I was using the O2 ROM. I don't want to switch ROM just to find out.
Delete me
Hm... I'm trying to reflash with an older ROM and check it.
I will post here pics with the new/old ROM.
My friend said (who has a PDAstore www.pdabolt.hu and PDA-repairservice www.pdaszerviz.hu ) it is not pixel-error but dust-particle on the camera-processor.
I don't know I will be smarter after the downgrade.
Ok, I'm finished. It seems it is independent from the ROM. I downgraded to the 1.13 O2 ROM, and skipped the ExtendedROM installation. Results are the same:
hmm... anybody?
Hasn't everyone already answered the question? It's dead pixels in the camera CCD. So a hardware fault.
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Hasn't everyone already answered the question? It's dead pixels in the camera CCD. So a hardware fault.
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Somebody would have answered yet? Or had one answer? Because I have two answers now. If your answer is an answer, this is the same than one of the two. But thank you!
Melty said:
Hasn't everyone already answered the question? It's dead pixels in the camera CCD. So a hardware fault.
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I agree - hardware fault, most likely due to poor quality component. Probably not a lot you can do about it - all Universals probably have this pproblem to one degree or another, it's just whether the number and position of the dead pixels is acceptable to you.
Cheers,
Steve.
Ok. Thakyou for all. I close the topic, I found it - as you said -, it is a hardware fault. I made contact my guarantee service, they will change it. (the camera)
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hi, all dear hd2 users,
In that 'Weird camera colour balance?' thread, some guys are still not convinced that their cameras have the pink problem. For me, I had also thought I am the lucky one who don't have the defect until today.
first thing to remember, do not use flash, because the strong light could make all the pics very white without pink spots;
2, take a clean white paper;
3, take several pictures of a clean white paper;
4, put them in a folder in your pc;
5, then display them in thumbnails.
you will see how obvious the pink spots in the centre are!
don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!
attached are some of my pics with pink spot, the bluish one is even with flash.
and one very important thing, don't forget to reply this post to tell me the results!
Cheers!
I dont have the time to do the pictures but you're definitely right, I didnt think I got it but I actually do.
Hope they get this and all the other problems fixed soon.
Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
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Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
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no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
Hopefully it is really software issue.
I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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i didn`t think too, i tryied that and i have something... but it is not so bad... so i`m okay
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
johncmolyneux said:
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
I think we will find that the pink tinge problem is hardware related, some digital cameras can suffer from what is called a hot spot. The problem usually only shows up when trying to take an IR photo as its something to do with too much IR light getting through to the sensor. Its possible that the lense on the HTC has a coating problem thats letting too much IR light through to the sensor. If this is the case only replacing the lense will fix it.
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
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Well, its a big problem for me. A phone at that price, and compared to other phones, really should have a better/satisfying camera. I find it unacceptable that my old Diamond takes better pictures!
And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
There already is a thread about this.
I suggest the two be merged if possible.
mallman said:
no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
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HTC originally said it was a hardware issue. Then they changed their minds and said it was a rare software issue. Then they changed their minds again and said it was a common software issue and that they are working on a hotfix.
I'm not convinced, to be honest: my suspicion is that it really is a hardware issue that HTC intends to try to compensate for in software, and that they're lying about it.
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I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use.
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I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
Shasarak said:
I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
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It's noticeable if you look for it, I personally didn't notice it till I read about the problem. I'm more inclined to believe it's a software fault as using flash when taking pictures I don't get the pink hue in the middle of the pics so it sounds like something to do with the light balancing algorithm as mentioned in the other thread.
TheRealBnold said:
And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
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Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
sharpey said:
Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
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What HTC knows and what HTC publically says aren't necessarily the same thing. Initially they said it was a hardware issue, then they changed their minds. Why? Was it because it is actually a software issue, but HTC tech support gets no information from HTC head office, had to guess, guessed wrong, and was belatedly corrected? Or was it because it's really a hardware issue, tech support knew this and announced it, and head office then suppressed the information in order to protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall, and is now telling lies? There's no way to tell, but at least one of HTC's statements must be either a mistake or a lie.
Go to the older thread
Shasarak said:
...protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall...
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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IMO, it does.
Even if you disagree, it wouldn't require a formal recall to be extremely damaging to HTC's sales; a lot of people returning their HD's and a lot of others not buying it because of a known hardware issue would be bad enough. HTC has plenty of incentive to lie.
i cant compare because i only have 1 battery : (. but this one is made in china and already got 2.2.1 on it. and the screen look less bright. does that mean i have the superior screen?
2012iawait said:
i cant compare because i only have 1 battery : (. but this one is made in china and already got 2.2.1 on it. and the screen look less bright. does that mean i have the superior screen?
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Good screen basically has 160 degree view angle. If you tilt your screen and notice any loss of colors, whites getting blown, or see blacks getting reflective you have a bad screen.
or if you are rooted, check if you have the LCD-SO-C2 display instead of the LCD-SH-C2
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or if you are rooted, check if you have the LCD-SO-C2 display instead of the LCD-SH-C2
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how do i do that?
Another couple ways are:
1. Put the WiFi calling shortcut on the desktop. Tilt the phone around and see if the you still discern the white lines in the blue logo. If they blend together (and the blue starts turning green) that's probably a bad display.
2. Open the market and pull up downloads. As you tilt the screen, look at the company names beneath the application names, as well as the lines that separate the applications. If the names disappear and the lines disappear (or go "negative"), then it's a bad display.
Of course, "bad" is relative, and if you think it's great then keep it and enjoy.
or if you are rooted, check if you have the LCD-SO-C2 display instead of the LCD-SH-C2
how do i check this? is there a app for this? seems like the easiest way
See the pictures on this thread and find out the difference between the two. It aint that hard to diffrenciate the two...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9635011&postcount=1
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See the pictures on this thread and find out the difference between the two. It aint that hard to diffrenciate the two...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9635011&postcount=1
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looks like i got the bottom one is that good?
Yes sir. Happy for you.
2012iawait said:
looks like i got the bottom one is that good?
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Yes sir. Happy for you.
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yay! lol well is this as good as retina display?
2012iawait said:
yay! lol well is this as good as retina display?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869760
under system info my screen is LCD-SH-C2 and this is my first replacement phone so does that mean that my screen is washed out. after looking at pics it looks like it. Also when i call tmobile what should i say to the rep?
topgun303 said:
under system info my screen is LCD-SH-C2 and this is my first replacement phone so does that mean that my screen is washed out. after looking at pics it looks like it. Also when i call tmobile what should i say to the rep?
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how do u check this?
hold down volume down and power, then select system info
So i called tmobile for replacement bec of bad screen and they are sending me another phone. The most important part i noticed was that when the rep said "i wonder why this phone is having screen issues" so tmobil know about it. Just wanted to put this out there for other people know. I hope my new phone is good haha
LCD-SH-C2 thats the one i have is that the bad one?
it looks good to me
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
I got my phone with a contract from radio shack, so is it possible to still get a replacement sent to me? Let me know guys. I have the receipt and box and all original contents.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
2012iawait said:
yay! lol well is this as good as retina display?
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glad you got you a good one. Now to enjoy the fun.
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or if you are rooted, check if you have the LCD-SO-C2 display instead of the LCD-SH-C2
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What is the difference between LCD-SO-C2 and LCD-SH-C2?
so today my wifes replacement hd2 came in and one thing i have noticed is that on her phone the screen looks a lil different such as it has a purpleish tint and u cant see the matrix array like on my hd2 Wierd??
I will post some pics when i get off work to get a second opinion
There are indeed at least 2 different screen types around - this was discussed quite some time ago. The difference is indeed visible. Searching a bit would probably result in getting pictures of the different types.
ah ok sounds true
well i gotz some pictures hard to tell but u can see a difference in the light color in the reflection and for warranty purposes heres what the tri color screen looks like
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/eL8CW9umujlwy9Q9uY56x1bEyHueKW_tLDFneHnoxJU?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Qc_QZru-8n-TNsIWfNf8elbEyHueKW_tLDFneHnoxJU?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_C78Y7SgEiYTcqb6Fx06qlbEyHueKW_tLDFneHnoxJU?feat=directlink
I keep wondering though! Why HTC made a phone with... i don't know.. a lot of different touch screens?
My First Eu HD2 had the dots in the screen but i sold it to get an HD7.
Before some months ago, i bought my second EU HD2 and my screen doesn't have the dots!
well remember the first versions had laggy screen then later after several revision changes they must have tried to perfect it lol
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so today my wifes replacement hd2 came in and one thing i have noticed is that on her phone the screen looks a lil different such as it has a purpleish tint and u cant see the matrix array like on my hd2 Wierd??:
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Hello, I recently bought a nexus 7 and in general I'm pretty pleased with it. However, just today which is about 4days after purchase I realized that my screen has little diamonds that were visible at a certain angle and most obvious when the screen is off. My question is whether this behavior is normal and whether I should take it for repair since it's still under warranty. It's not rooted and there isn't a screen protector for more information. Thanks.
Edit : diamonds are 5mm each
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Hello, I recently bought a nexus 7 and in general I'm pretty pleased with it. However, just today which is about 4days after purchase I realized that my screen has little diamonds that were visible at a certain angle and most obvious when the screen is off. My question is whether this behavior is normal and whether I should take it for repair since it's still under warranty. It's not rooted and there isn't a screen protector for more information. Thanks.
Edit : diamonds are 5mm each
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are you able to provide a photo? im not sure i understand.
Do you mean as in its like theres marks on the glass?
Kearkan said:
are you able to provide a photo? im not sure i understand.
Do you mean as in its like theres marks on the glass?
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Under certain light conditions there appears to be marks in the glass and it's all diamonds tesselated together. A photo doesn't show anything but ill be uploading one in a while
I've never noticed anything like that.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Doesn't show any of the diamond-ing I saw but here it is. I could only see it when there were many lights around and only when viewing at an certain angle.
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i dont think images will allow us to see the problem, maybe even point them out with a stylus ,you could use a phone to make a video panning around views, to clearly display the problem and youtube it here :good:
yes this is normal..... no worries.. new screens usually have this
you only get to see them under certain life conditions and I'm pretty sure these will fade away with wear & tear.. I used to see them when I bought my N7.... not anymore today... enjoy them
jakeellis01 said:
yes this is normal..... no worries.. new screens usually have this
you only get to see them under certain life conditions and I'm pretty sure these will fade away with wear & tear.. I used to see them when I bought my N7.... not anymore today... enjoy them
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Alright. Thanks for the info.
I think you're just seeing the digitizer.. Pretty normal to see it under certain conditions. Mainly with the screen off though. You shouldnt really see anything with the screen on.