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X10 Backlight problem - lower area near the keys

Hi Guys,
I just bought an X10 yesterday. I noticed that the lower area (portrait mode) of the LCD looks like a bit dim/burned if the background is white. I noticed this when I opened facebook and looks like there are shades of light yellow where it looks like a shadow from the backlight not properly diffused. I'm going to take a picture later and paste it here. This is an expensive phone and I'm guessing that it should'nt show anything like this. Let me know if you also noticed something like this too.
Thanks.

Try another program and if the problem persists you have a hardware defect.
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Sent from my X10a

Yup. Tried it out, Pretty sure that it is not the app itself. Problem is pretty static even on landscape mode.
Thanks, I'm going to the shop later to return it.
OT: I think X10 is a bit overpriced - maybe not used to plastic feeling, I was pampered by my HD2.

Same here
I have the same problem, but didn't give it too much attention.
I am curious if the shop will change it for you. Let us know please.

Me too. Doesn't bother me though.

Well, I went back to the shop. They showed me the working display item. It also showed the problem. I told them that maybe the backlight was burned out and asked them to open a new set for 1:1 exchange. Same thing, problem is still there... They changed it anyway. I'm entitled for 1x 1:1 exchange for 60 days and used it by just opening box. Still asked them to replace it my 1 day old set with the newly opened X10 just to make my wife happy =). Well, still sigh.... Expensive phone with a poor backlight. I don't have it on my HD2. If you do browsing and you're aware of the problem, sometimes it just pisses you off. But not the end of the world.
OT: I'm starting to enjoy android now =) Fast and fluid... stock UI sucks for X10 but definitely can be changed and will definitely rock if rooted. I also thought that the camera button was spoilt, but was surprised that you can do a "half press" to do a focus like a normal camera. Brilliant!

mardolf said:
Well, I went back to the shop. They showed me the working display item. It also showed the problem. I told them that maybe the backlight was burned out and asked them to open a new set for 1:1 exchange. Same thing, problem is still there... They changed it anyway. I'm entitled for 1x 1:1 exchange for 60 days and used it by just opening box. Still asked them to replace it my 1 day old set with the newly opened X10 just to make my wife happy =). Well, still sigh.... Expensive phone with a poor backlight. I don't have it on my HD2. If you do browsing and you're aware of the problem, sometimes it just pisses you off. But not the end of the world.
OT: I'm starting to enjoy android now =) Fast and fluid... stock UI sucks for X10 but definitely can be changed and will definitely rock if rooted. I also thought that the camera button was spoilt, but was surprised that you can do a "half press" to do a focus like a normal camera. Brilliant!
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what a surprise... maybe the batch the store got all have some defects. i have zero problems with my lcd and everything looks beautiful and sharp with great contrast.

I really don't know. 1 batch and all defected, possible. I actually mentioned it to them but they told me that since they released the product here in Singapore, it is the same batch. And I'm the only one who noticed it...

Are you talking about the 'wavy' pattern on the bottom of the screen? It's as if the screen wasn't laid flat and the shades of the wave shows on the white screen?
Not sure if that made any sense but it's on my device and same as my friends.

Yes, I'm referring to that one. I just checked my HD2, and it is also there but not that obvious, unlike the X10.
"Lights at the bottom are poorly diffused". And you can see the shadow of the 6 LED lights SE used. When I saw this patterns, I remembered the old LED to lit the LCDs on old Nokia monochrome phones =), and you can change that to any color just to be hip when I was still a teenager.
Well, I still like the phone. =)

Had to open a plain white google home screen with opera just to find this, yes its where the leds are spaced and what ^^ said about diffusion. Very unnoticable unless you look for it.
I'd recommend not looking for it

It is on every single X10 unit and it is nothing that should bother anyone since it is only visible in very light plain backgrounds.
I noticed it since day one but I was surprised that it does not show in dark backgrounds. It is unlike the color bleeding that would happen on some LCDs. Therefore, it is ok and nothing to bother about

white flecks on dhd screen ??

see this video 2 understand what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjtGx1BFlQ
and this 2 compare it with hd2 ??? it appears worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUBTfeNP-A
also compared to desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKSUFPT4qs
can htc change the screen in comming batches or production ???

xdafun4all said:
see this video 2 understand what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUjtGx1BFlQ
and this 2 compare it with hd2 ??? it appears worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKUBTfeNP-A
also compared to desire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NKSUFPT4qs
can htc change the screen in comming batches or production ???
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I think that's just the camera doing it. It's like you taking a vid of computer monitor there will be lines but not visible to human eyes. For the desire, it's an amoled display so it's a different technology. This is what I think.
If you look at the screen with your eyes, you should have no problem. However, if you can see the screen flickering like that with your eyes, then it could be the hardware

I had the white fleck beneath the screen that looks like
First youtube link
0.09 near the top
There was two white fleck on my second DHD and it seems like a production issue, I would recommend getting a exchange...

nmyseteroious said:
I think that's just the camera doing it. It's like you taking a vid of computer monitor there will be lines but not visible to human eyes. For the desire, it's an amoled display so it's a different technology. This is what I think.
If you look at the screen with your eyes, you should have no problem.
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ok but now i have htc tytn2 will i notice better screen with dhd ??? i feel that the screen is very poor in quality ..... hope i m wrong

Display

Hi there,
I bought my htc desire hd 1,5 mounths ago and i really love it.
My gf also love the phone and yes.. she bought the same one.
If we compare the 2 phones there is a huge display qualilty diffrence.
Example;
if i put the color yellow on full screen, my phone will make it more like green.
And on my gf phone it is bright yellow.
This hapen with every color.
Even on the homescreen you see a color diffrence.
You won't notice if you don't compare 2 phones.
Before i get the questions: yes both phones have the same display settings and software updates.
I send my phone to the repair center to solve the problem, guess what they coulden't find the problem.
I Send my phone again to the repair center and again they can't find the problem. All they say is: well, its normal.
I called htc and they said: htc use 2 different displays in the htc desire hd. Maybe that can be the problem. But in real you coulden't see a big diffrence between the 2 displays.
I have to make a photo to prove it, and then they will send the problem to the main office of HTC.
I will post here a photo to if i can make a photo with my crappy camera.
Sorry for my bad english language.

fun2323 said:
I will post here a photo to if i can make a photo with my crappy camera.
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Download shoot me from the market and make screenshots to post here so we can have a proper look...If you can do the same with your GF phone that would be even better so we can compare..

Great idea i will do it when i recive my phone from the repair center. That will be today or tomorrow.

is there a difference in view angles between the two?
waw i didn't know they have two types, maybe one of them is SLCD another user was reporting issues with display driver when he installs a custom rom
i have the green yellow thing, i hope the new one is not SLCD, i dont want to switch again
if your girlfriend device has better view angles than its SLCD or IPS
and taking a screenshot using an app will not show the screen difference ofcourse!

hamdir said:
is there a difference in view angles between the two?
waw i didn't know they have two types, maybe one of them is SLCD
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NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Please dont start that debate up again....I cant take it anymore...
I have a hard time believing that what he was told is true...two different types?? surely not.

Nope the view angles are the same.
And about the 2 displays thats what HTC says to me.

thank god its the same angles! i didnt want that misery again hehe
another question if you look at grey areas very closely can you see some so faint scanlines? is it the same between the two?

rixsta said:
Download shoot me from the market and make screenshots to post here so we can have a proper look...If you can do the same with your GF phone that would be even better so we can compare..
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Why do people keep saying this in threads about display problems? If both phones are displaying the same thing, the screenshots will be identical, even if the difference displays mean that they look different when looking at the two phones...

Not to bring up the debate again or anything but my screens viewing angles are great, I've titled the screens to obscure angles and I can see the screens really well. To be honest the screen looks identical to my gf's Desire in terms of colours and saturation.

Fianlly i have my phone back and found some time to make pictures.
It is verry hard to make pictures of it.
But in real you will see the diffrence in a second.
I would like to post the screenshots here, but i can't upload link to the forum yet.

Hello, you can verify if your both DHD has different screens...
There are two manufacturers for DHD screen, SHARP and AUO. (AUO is a partner / sous dealing with SHARP)
You can verify: Bootloader/Fastboot/System Info
Mine is LCD-SHARP.

i have no idea how to. You can send a link ?
htc tells me they are using 2 screens. but there should be no diffrence in brightnes and color.

fun2323 said:
Fianlly i have my phone back and found some time to make pictures.
It is verry hard to make pictures of it.
But in real you will see the diffrence in a second.
I would like to post the screenshots here, but i can't upload link to the forum yet.
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Defiantly a difference there hay... id ask for a new phone. and send those pictures with the email .

Your right there should be no user noticeable difference.

mero01 said:
Defiantly a difference there hay... id ask for a new phone. and send those pictures with the email .
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Well htc say: If the repair center can't find a problem, we can't do anything.

Perhaps the display falls within a tolerance the HTC have set.
I personally would keep at them, have you tried taking it back to your point of purchase with your GF's DHD as proof that something isn't quite right.

thats what i did 2 times, they send it 2 times back to the repair center.
Bought it by Vodafone NL

hi
you can do what Nvidia32 ask you please
check yours System Info's DHD
To get that you have to start your phone in bootloader mode (power+vol down) and power more for enter in fastboot mode and choose System Info
PS: your DHD must to have ENG Hboot installed if you want see these information
sorry for my english too

yeah I'm interested in knowing the difference between the two screens as well. Can you please check them?
Mine is AUO ..

Madridi4ever said:
yeah I'm interested in knowing the difference between the two screens as well. Can you please check them?
Mine is AUO ..
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Same for me.

[Q] Display issues on Omnia 7?

Hi guys,
I played with a Omnia7 at a local T-Mobile store yesterday. While I absolutly like the device and the colors of the OLED display I noticed a small issue: It looked like a few items (probably the ones beein showed most often) wrer like "burned" into the display. E.g. on a light background I could allways guess the Line "Windows Phone" and the logo at the top of the display. This stayed that way regardless what application I've been running.
So my question is if someone else ever notices things like that on her/his Omnia 7? I would guess thats due to the device beeing switched on all day long for months now so that the display has allready seen some sort of damage...

Nope, mine is working fine.
btw, i may experienced some similar issue on my previous device, the htc touch pro running wm6.5. some part of the screen just stayed there like a gloomy shadow for some time, esp when the screen is in dark backgrounds. i wonder if it is a design flaw or because of the ROM i'm running.

take a look at what happened to me! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973337

That happens to OLED screens if their left on for long.
One of the reasons we dont have the option to leave the display always on in our phones.
Generally it mainly only happens to display phones since their screen is nearly always on and stay in the same place.

evolutionqy7 said:
That happens to OLED screens if their left on for long.
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Generally it mainly only happens to display phones since their screen is nearly always on and stay in the same place.
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Thats actually what I guessed, both.

I have my screen set to 5 mins (just for the sake if im on a game and dont want the app to tombstone and wait for a long reload)
But have no issues so far
The only complaint i have with AMOLED screen is the damn clarity is so poor compared to LCD's.
Where as it was crisp clear on SLCD on my HD7, the clarity on the SAMOLED screen reminds me newspapers wher you can see the squares in text and its not clear.

[Q] Display fault. Hardware/software?

So i recieved my Galaxy s2 the other day, as a replacement for my HTC HD2 which was in for a repair with a broken screen - apparently it was 'unecconomical' to repair - but i certainly wasnt complaining!
Awesome phone, had it for two days, rooted it fine using Odin and superoneclick - fantastic tool..
After rooting i re-flashed with stock kernel again.
All was absolutely fine, i was using my phone without problems until a few hours later (yesterday evening) when after putting it down for five minutes and picking it up again, there was a pixel wide horizontal line running across the screen.
They are not dead or stuck pixels, as they change colour with the background- they just appear extremely brightly, so stand out from the rest of the display.
No amount of adjusting has resolved this, rebooting/hard reset etc. the line remains prominently running from the right side, and slowly fading to the left.
Ive searched online but cant see any issues with screens like this, just dead pixel lines and stuck pixels.
If anyone may have an idea on whether this could be software related problem or hardware related would be great to know your thoughts.
Cheers, Alex

I would be taking it straight back . I got a couple of sgs2 handsets back in may when they were 1st released and i had numerous screen issues. i got one a few days ago an my friend got one yesterday and the screens are pretty much bang on (tiny tiny yellow tint if you go looking for it)
No lines , no dead pixels , beautifull screens even with the slight yellow tint
I hated my 1st screens so there are defo some bad ones knocking about and some that are literally 10x nicer to look at
Like i say take it back buddy
Good luck with it and let us know how you got on
Also pictures of the problem could be interesting

Yep I definitely will...
Just whether to un-root and reset flash count first or not - probs a good idea im thinking.
Aside from that i agree its a lovely display- ive heard about the yellow tint but noticed it on mine.
Will try and get a pic up before it goes back..
Cheers for the input!